Have to say “I told you so” on this one, when I was among a ten percent minority insisting this ‘war’ would not work, consistently providing evidence to back it up, including common sense arguments like: You can’t bring democracy to any country by invading and forcing it on them. By bombing and killing thousands of them, from the outside. By not ridding the country of the enemy army. By ignoring the reconstruction and invading ANOTHER country.

And the final reason you can’t force a country to accept democracy should be self-evident: If they all vote for a theocracy, that democracy is long-gone.

I thought that when Iraq was criticised, that Afghanistan was help up as the example of the war on terror that was working.

The neocons are only willing to spend taxpayer’s money killing people. helping people? Not so much.

We could, instead of killing lots of people, have given $45,000 to every human in Iraq, where the annual per capita income is $144

Dunno, seems like a better use of our national blood and treasure.

Cheers,
–raw

We provided the best possible ‘live fire exercise’ experience for the Mujahideen which we funded, armed and otherwise supported in their efforts to drive back the Soviet ‘invaders.’

Then, we failed to enter Afghanistan with sufficient forces to insure security, capture or kill the opposition and end the cooperative ‘reign’ of the Taliban and those allied with Osama bin Laden. We compounded that idiocy by diverting critical assets to the unnecessary invasion and occupation of Iraq.

We have continued to fail in Afghanistan, by failing to insure security and tranquility, win the hearts and minds of those wary of the Taliban, and by failing to provide an economically attractive alternative to the cultivation of poppies and the production of heroin.

We continue to support the government of General Musharraf in Pakistan, a military dictator whose secretive security forces—and, even units of its regular military—provided logistical support, arms and financial resources which resulted in the installation of the Taliban in the first place. A government who almost single handedly boosted the proliferation of nuclear weapons technology. Until we invaded Afghanistan, we failed to provide sufficient support to elements of the Northern Alliance, who fought the Taliban and its Pakistani benefactors.

Is there anyone—not still drinking the cool-aid—who actually wonders how things have turned out this way?

No

We, of the United States, newly organized in 1770s, tossed out the British Royal Tory imperial occupiers. Why should we be surprised if the Afgnanis resist imperial occupation some two hundred and thirty years later?

USofA, its troops and mercenaries and CIA should be totally and immediately removed from Afghanistan, Iraq and any other Middle Eastern locale now.

Heckuva job Alfred E!

heckova a job their bushie.
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Ya got that right BB. It’s kind of like feeding the bears in Yellowstone. They are big, cute, furry animals while taking morsels from your fingers. Then, when the supply dries up, they lean in the car window and bite your head off. Plus, we are not just “feeding the bears”, we are giving them extra teeth and stronger jaws by supplying arms.

BTW, I still haven’t seen any figures for the percentage of casualties, in Afghanistan or Iraq, inflicted with weapons supplied by us. My guess is it’s a considerable number.

-GSD

You all, cant choose the place and time for the war.

Cept maybe Iraq, and you folks didn’t work so well there either.