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Save Tucker?

By Faiz Shakir on Nov 26th, 2007 at 10:09 am

Save Tucker?»

“Rumors have been flying recently that Tucker Carlson could soon be on the way out at MSNBC.” Tucker’s show is “in real danger of being canceled,” according to an NBC official, but the right won’t let him go down without a fight. TVNewswer reports that a few of Tucker’s die-hard fans have launched a petition drive to “save Tucker.” The group’s webpage states, “This decision by MSNBC will silence a conservative voice, part of a move by MSNBC to swing left and become ‘FOX for the Liberals,’ dropping any pretense of objectivity or balance.”

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Tucker recently signed off his MSNBC show with this comment: “That does it for us. Thank you for watching, as always. We mean that sincerely to all eight of you.” MSNBC management was reportedly “infuriated” at Tucker’s flippant sign-off. Contact MSNBC here and tell them what you think of Tucker’s show.




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121 Responses to “Save Tucker?”

  1. Dr. Matt Says:

    Tucker is so far right that he makes Hannity look like a liberal. Good riddance, reich-wingers shouldn’t be allowed on T.V, ever, unless of course it is for public viewing of state sponsored execution.


  2. toasterhead Says:

    He’s still on TV?

    Huh. News to me.


  3. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Geez, could it be possible that poor Tucker is failing as a talk show host, not because “tha libruls” are unjustly trying to silence a conservative icon, but rather because his show is just flat-out BAD?


  4. Fan of Man Says:

    let me count the ways to say what a waste of time…..


  5. burro Says:

    What’s a tuckercarlson?


  6. Dr. Matt Says:

    He’ll have a job at faux by March 2008. Anyone want to bet?


  7. Dr. Matt Says:


    What’s a tuckercarlson?
    Comment by burro — November 26, 2007 @ 10:18 am

    Similar to hemorrhoids, but not quite as pleasant.


  8. barfly Says:

    He deserves to finish his broadcasting days in some little third-rung station; reading farm reports, attending supermarket openings and giving restaurant endorsements in his spare time.


  9. Laszlo Panaflex Says:

    part of a move by MSNBC to swing left and become ‘FOX for the Liberals,’ dropping any pretense of objectivity or balance.”

    So is that an acknowledgement that Fox has no “pretense of objectivity or balance”?


  10. Tony S. Says:

    It is scientific fact that Americans agree that conservatives shouldn’t be allowed on tv.


  11. GSD Says:

    Good night and good riddance.

    -GSD


  12. Croaker Says:

    What’s interesting is that they admit that they are fully aware that FOX News is neither fair nor balanced. I wonder how many of them will write to Fox in protest? Hypocrites.


  13. gummitch Says:

    MSNBC is mad at Tucker because he finally got something right? That hardly seems fair.


  14. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Similar to hemorrhoids, but not quite as pleasant.

    Comment by Dr. Matt — November 26, 2007 @ 10:20 am

    hence, the invention of medicated “Tucks”…


  15. missmolly Says:

    I seriously doubt that MSNBC is trying to “swing left” and oust Tucker for that reason. MSNBC is part of a large corporation whose objective is to make money, which apparently Tucker doesn’t seem to bring in. Ratings mean everything.

    Interesting that Tucker’s fans are playing the fairness card. Why is it that the wingnuts mightily condemn the Fairness Doctrine when it’s about providing some balance to their own bloviators, but when one of their own is on the chopping block, it’s all the fault of the “liberal media” — which, apparently, carries all the broadcast power in our society.

    Hypocrites.


  16. Dr. Matt Says:

    Why are reich-wingers suddenly worried that a cable news station isn’t objective or balanced? Apparently faux’s far reich-wing spin is perfectly suitable.


  17. bobcat_grad Says:

    “…MSNBC to swing left and become ‘FOX for the Liberals,’ dropping any pretense of objectivity or balance.”

    Is this their way of acknowlegding that FOX is a station for conservatives only without any pretense of objectivity?


  18. Aanya Says:

    Thanks for providing the link! I used it to suggest they stick David Shulster in Tucker’s spot ASAP!


  19. bobcat_grad Says:

    Laszlo Panaflex -

    Yikes. We had same thought. Guess I should read comments before I repeat what someone says.


  20. oldtree Says:

    it isn’t like you can’t read tuckie in a few minutes to see what he is about. he whines, he acts hateful, isn’t funny, and his questions are written by his guests. we all ready have press the meat for that kind of fecal sharing session


  21. Zooey Says:

    Bye, propeller neck.


  22. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Tucker Carlson has “die-hard” fans? Bwahahahahahhhhhaaaaaaaahhhaa! Ha! That’s rich!


  23. Minotaur Says:

    This just in: TP regulars go apesh!t about a conservative talking-head.

    Never saw that comin’.


  24. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    This just in: TP regulars go apesh!t about a conservative talking-head.

    Comment by Minotaur — November 26, 2007 @ 10:33 am

    Naw… ya got it all wrong, AGAIN. We think it’s hysterically funny that poor Li’l Tucker is going down in flames, and his dingbat friends, prolly includes you, think it’s a plot!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…


  25. katy Says:

    and what of glen beck?
    how does he still hang on?
    hell, tucker is a pansy compared to that lunatic…

    he’s a pansy anyway…


  26. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Carlson: “Man, that smarts…”

    Close friend: “Just take this little medicated pad and Tuck’er in there”!


  27. tarazan Says:

    Tucker show represent a small fraction of the society.
    He represents arrogance,lack of depth,lack of research and a lot of lashing at opponents without presenting solid facts or opinions of his own.
    He represetns the ‘know it all’ irritating personality.
    Save Tucker for what? !!!
    Time for him to go,and that’s a good step for MSNBC.

    He is annoying to watch, anyway.


  28. rastaman Says:

    i have slogan NOT to save tucker…….and it rhymes!


  29. Uncle Ho Says:

    Bye-bye, Tucker, Goodbye.

    And Good riddence.


  30. Marie Says:

    Not only is Tucker extremely right wing, his arguments are ridiculous and his interviews are silly.
    He is a personified mockery of news anchors — anyone in the same business should be glad to see him go — perhaps on to the role of game show host. For the lowly viewers, I can only think that he will not be missed, except for the lowest common denominator to which he seems to appeal.


  31. Frosty Cupcake Says:

    it’s all the fault of the “liberal media” — which, apparently, carries all the broadcast power in our society.

    Hypocrites.

    Comment by missmolly — November 26, 2007 @ 10:24 am

    Yes, the corporate media is being controlled by the all powerful liberal wing of the all powerful Democratic party.

    (If *only* we had that kind of media control…)


  32. katy Says:

    an obnoxious pansy… if i could’ve, i would’ve slapped his
    smartash mouth the last time he was on maher…
    the guy’s a jerk…


  33. Squegeeboo Says:

    I think this is a liberal group doing a joke, I can’t believe a Republican group would be stupid enough to admit that Fox is that far to the right.


  34. raynman Says:

    What is it about conservatives that they don’t want to acknowledge that the people have a voice.

    The people, through ratings, have shown that Tucker is not successful and should be let go. And yet, conservatives rail and protest.

    The people, through polls, have shown they don’t like the direction that this country is taking. And yet, conservatives rail and protest.

    I guess democracy for conservatives only exists when you agree with them.


  35. Zimzone Says:

    Maybe Ed Schultz will get his spot…


  36. tarazan Says:

    We are not asking MSNBC ,FOX or any channel to move to the Left,or to the Right.
    All what we are asking from television networks is to be honest,fair and report things without bias….
    That’s not much to ask from major networks…
    But alas. !!


  37. Zooey Says:

    I think this is a liberal group doing a joke, I can’t believe a Republican group would be stupid enough to admit that Fox is that far to the right.
    Comment by Squegeeboo — November 26, 2007 @ 10:40 am

    I agree, Squeegy. Fox being far right would seriously put them out of balance.


  38. hellinabucket Says:

    Sounds like the free market is speaking again. If people liked his show in large numbers he wouldn’t have to worry about being axed. This is a great example of letting the market decide.

    Remember an earlier failure of his, Crossfire.

    Minotaur should be proud of this. Capitalism works. People don’t watch Tucker because he’s just Fox light.


  39. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Perhaps Tucker is failing, not because of his politics, but because he stinks as a talk show host. Good old capitalism at work.

    And perhaps the public has finally had its fill of Reichwing lies…


  40. RUCerious Says:

    May Tucker find a position commensurate with his talents and abilities.
    On a 1K watt radio station in southeastern Nebraska.


  41. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    All righty, hellinabucket! Great minds think alike!


  42. Frosty Cupcake Says:

    “On a 1K watt radio station in southeastern Nebraska.”

    What did poor, little Nebraska ever do to deserve that?

    ;-)


  43. RUCerious Says:

    Frosty ~ must be their unicameral system!


  44. FearandSmear Says:

    Dunno, the site really smacks of parody.

    But then again, they could just be completely irony-impaired.

    I’m tempted to call…


  45. Minotaur Says:

    Minotaur should be proud of this. Capitalism works. People don’t watch Tucker because he’s just Fox light.

    By all means, let the market work; if Tucker needs to go because his ratings suck then toss him out.

    Still, watching the TP crowd go on and on and on and on…and on and on…and on about a guy is supposedly “Fox light” is comical. If anything this thread is a showcase for ‘Fox Derangement Syndrome’ manifested toward poor Tucker.


  46. Leftside Annie Says:

    Ho-hum.

    Who gives a crap? Let Tucker spew his bile on FUX.


  47. Mr Blifil Says:

    There’s always PBS, dear Tucker. Jim Lehrer can’t last forever.


  48. hellinabucket Says:

    Minotaur apparently doesn’t read too much on this site. 45 posts is nowhere near going on and on and on. I counted 22 different posters. Instead of thinking that we are going on and on you could look at it that many are just expressing there opinion. Another great staple of a democracy.


  49. Zimzone Says:

    If anything this thread is a showcase for ‘Fox Derangement Syndrome’ manifested toward poor Tucker. -Comment by Minotaur

    This coming from someone still blaming Clinton. And by the way,
    YOU’RE still here. That makes you part of the ‘TP crowd’.


  50. Evergreen2U Says:

    Who is Tucker?


  51. Zooey Says:

    If anything this thread is a showcase for ‘Fox Derangement Syndrome’ manifested toward poor Tucker.
    Comment by Minotaur — November 26, 2007 @ 10:55 am

    Derangement? Hardly.

    What is the response of the Right to these names?

    Bill Clinton
    Ted Kennedy

    Now that’s derangement.

    Run along…


  52. sled_dog Says:

    Tucker Carlson is the Inspector Clouseau of MSNBC. Good bye and Good Riddance.


  53. tablogloid Says:

    “Thank you for watching, as always. We mean that sincerely to all eight of you.” MSNBC management was reportedly “infuriated” at Tucker’s flippant sign-off.

    I am no fan of Tucker’s, but I wonder if NBC mgmt. was infuriated at Tina Fey’s Emmy comment when she thanked fans of 30Rock…”all 12 of them.”?


  54. MapleStreet Says:

    Dumb Question: don’t the networks care about ratings ? My point being that Tucker, Limbaugh, et al represent the 25% of the population who still believe that Shrub is doing a good job.

    Wouldn’t chasing the 75 % rather than the 25 % be a good business decision ? And if looking for a balance similar to the population, wouldn’t that be 3 people for the 75% for every one person for the 25% ?


  55. DennisRaines Says:

    54-

    Sure the 75% would be a better goal, but 72% of the stuff on TV news is just info-tainment, 65% of all people know that. ;)


  56. Zimzone Says:

    MapleStreet, good questions.

    That elusive ‘liberal bias’ we hear so much about doesn’t hold water.

    A handful of conservatives, not all Americans, own all US media. They will bend, shape, rearrange, or change ‘the message’ to protect us vulnerable naive citizens from ourselves.

    75% is a pretty solid majority, yet you’d think Fox was the only ‘news’ out there.


  57. missmolly Says:

    Wouldn’t chasing the 75 % rather than the 25 % be a good business decision ?

    Comment by MapleStreet — November 26, 2007 @ 11:08 am

    You would think so. Unfortunately, that 75% mostly prefers to think for themselves instead of having a talking head tell them what to think. So they’re a little harder to reach.


  58. DennisRaines Says:

    And also “good ratings” for stuff on cable is much lower than that of the networks.


  59. BrianFL Says:

    I’m surprised MSNBC didn’t re-sign him to a huge contract, just like right-wing idiot Glenn Beck got a new deal despite zero ratings.

    I love how MSNBC even tried Tucker in two time slots each day (4PM and 6PM) to see if he could get ratings somewhere, but he failed in both times. The wacko right will still see removing him as a form of “bias”. They consider MSNBC far left because they have one liberal (Olbermann) and one left-leaner (Matthews, although he goes after Dems all the time and has a brother who ran as Lt Gov of Pennsylvania as a Republican) to go with all their other right-wing commentators (Russert, Buchanan, Scarborough, Tucker, Imus, Smerconish, Savage, etc.).


  60. natisman Says:

    Ya know, Ed Schultz just built himself a home studio for duing TV work. News from the hinterlands.


  61. Leftside Annie Says:

    O’Biggie, you’re sooooo very cute when you’re angry!!


  62. RUCerious Says:

    Who is Tucker?

    Comment by Evergreen2U — November 26, 2007 @ 11:01 am

    You know, Tuckyerlegsbetweenyertail as he exits stage left…


  63. ForTruth Says:

    So a guy who wants to be a girl is called a “Tucker”?


  64. RUCerious Says:

    I’ve never watched Carlson
    Comment by O. Bigfoot — November 26, 2007 @ 11:29 am

    Yeah, he’s not on Fock Snooze, but just give it a month, largeped, you’ll be able to watch him on your channel.


  65. Zimzone Says:

    Ya know, Ed Schultz just built himself a home studio for duing TV work. News from the hinterlands. -Comment by natisman

    I agree. As a resident of ‘the hinterlands’, I support Ed’s views on many issues. He would be a great replacement for ‘Bow Carlson’, and deserves some air time to voice his views.


  66. Frosty Cupcake Says:

    OMG. The first guy on that “save Tucker” website has a cfl.rr email address. That means he’s here in my neck of the woods, central Florida. Too funny.


  67. OxyCon Says:

    TVNewswer reports that a few of Tucker’s die-hard fans have launched a petition drive to “save Tucker.” The group’s webpage states, “This decision by MSNBC will silence a conservative voice, part of a move by MSNBC to swing left and become ‘FOX for the Liberals,’ dropping any pretense of objectivity or balance.”

    ==============

    With those words which I highlighted, TVNewser admits that Fox “News” is a right wing Repub propaganda network, AND that they have no “objectivity” or “balance”.


  68. Wayne Says:

    “Save the Wail”

    LMAO


  69. Wayne Says:

    Still, watching the TP crowd go on and on and on and on…
    Comment by Minotaur — November 26, 2007 @ 10:55 am

    Really?
    I see a P-brain making inane comments…..


  70. Winski Says:

    He should be FIRED IMMEDIATELY. He can then become part of the advance party for the newbush compound in South America where ‘w’ gets to clear part of the amazon forest and eric prince gets to help..

    OUT…OUT…OUT NOW!


  71. The Shadow Says:

    As a conservative democrat I’m glad to hear that Tucker’s show might be canceled. There are too many idiots such as Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill Orally O’Rielly on the air as it is. Not to mention that fake Fox News channel, that is by Republicans for Repbulicans and all about Rudy.


  72. Midwest Product Says:

    If you’re happy to see Carlson’s show cancelled, don’t tell us, tell MSNBC.

    Here’s what I wrote them: “…I’ve read with much interest the recent speculation regarding the (I hope) imminent cancellation of Tucker Carlson’s program on MSNBC. Much of cable news is a wasteland, and Mr. Carlson’s timeslot is, unfortunately, no exception. While I am certain that any replacement will represent a marked improvement, I am writing (for whatever little it may be worth) in the hopes that your network will consider giving David Shuster a chance to take over the vacant airtime that Mr. Carlson’s departure will create. Mr. Shuster is already a contributor to MSNBC, meaning viewers will not be presented with a complete unknown, and his appearances on Countdown and elsewhere have been generally quite good. Be it Mr. Shuster or someone else, I urge MSNBC to select a new anchor/host whose program will not constitute an open insult to the viewers of your network, as Mr. Carlson’s does.”


  73. missmolly Says:

    I’m glad to hear that Tucker’s show might be canceled. There are too many idiots such as Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill Orally O’Rielly on the air as it is.

    Comment by The Shadow — November 26, 2007 @ 12:24 pm

    Don’t get too comfortable — MSNBC will probably just replace Tucker with some other talking head to appeal to the dittoheads. And since Tucker couldn’t keep his ratings up, they’ll probably find somebody who is more outrageous and provocative — the more insulting, the better.


  74. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    I am no fan of Tucker’s, but I wonder if NBC mgmt. was infuriated at Tina Fey’s Emmy comment when she thanked fans of 30Rock…”all 12 of them.”?

    Comment by tablogloid — November 26, 2007 @ 11:05 am

    That’s a fair point, but Tina made her statement in the context of winning an Emmy, thus pointing out the oddity of a highly-acclaimed production (perhaps unfairly) languishing in the ratings.

    Tucker, on the other hand, was just pointing out that his show is a failure.


  75. eve Says:

    Why would the right care if he is canceled? They obviously don’t watch his show or it wouldn’t be in danger of being canceled.

    Midwest Product, Shuster would be great.


  76. Shayne Says:

    I am no fan of Tucker’s, but I wonder if NBC mgmt. was infuriated at Tina Fey’s Emmy comment when she thanked fans of 30Rock…”all 12 of them.”?

    Comment by tablogloid — November 26, 2007 @ 11:05 am

    1. Tina Fey is a comedian not a “newscaster”.
    2. Tina Fey had just won an Emmy for a show she, writes, produces and acts in.
    3. If Tucker received either critical acclaim or a large viewing audience NBC would not be irritated by his comment. The were only angry because it is true.


  77. Shayne Says:

    MSNBC is PBS, only without the government funding. - Bigfool

    This is perhaps the single most stupid comment I’ve seen. Do you know anything about anything Bigtool?


  78. Frosty Cupcake Says:

    Midwest Product:

    I’ve already used the link that the Tucker supporters so handily provided and yeah, I told them what I thought about Tucker. My email was polite, but not nearly as eloquent as yours.


  79. Shayne Says:

    Maybe he can follow in Dennis Miller’s footsteps. Dennis just got his own talk show on some dinky radio station in Chicago. I only know because they play the commercial on MSNBC all day.


  80. stewarjt Says:

    Once again, it is poetic justice for tucker, a true believer in capitalism and the “market.” If your show doesn’t turn a profit for NBC, then you’ll no longer have a show! Suck on that long, tough one hard, tucker! The “market” can be a cruel, stern, demanding, dictatorial beaotch!


  81. Dr. Matt Says:

    Comment by O. Bigfoot — November 26, 2007 @ 11:29 am

    When all else fails, cite Faux’s [now faultering] “ratings”….as they that is some sort of legitimacy to their propaganda. Reich-wingers are so predictable.


  82. Wayne Says:

    Comment by O. Bigfoot — November 26, 2007 @ 11:29 am

    Wow, that was the stupidest comment I have ever seen from you O. Bigfoot-in-mouth.

    You. just. can’t. fix. stupid.


  83. Shayne Says:

    Ones a serial rapist(more than one rape), and the other is a murderer. Now that’s fact!

    Comment by Southern Man — November 26, 2007 @ 1:42 pm

    Really, because neither one of them have any convictions against them, dumbass. Just because Limbaugh tells you so doesn’t make it so. Your criminally stupid but since you haven’t been convicted, yet, we can’t call you a moron.


  84. LynChi Says:

    Hey, Think Progress - thanks for the head-up. I sent an email to MSNBC asking that they replace Tucker with someone with a progressive point of view.

    I like posts that give links for ACTION. We progressives need to make our voices heard so every little bit of help leading us to the source for taking action is truly appreciated.


  85. Dr. Matt Says:

    Ones a serial rapist(more than one rape), and the other is a murderer. Now that’s fact!
    Comment by Southern Man — November 26, 2007 @ 1:42 pm

    Provide your facts and where are the criminal charges? You reich-wingers and your tin foil hate conspiracies are better than coffee on a Monday morning.


  86. Dr. Matt Says:

    Funny how you can convict Kennedy and Clinton for supposed crimes, yet you allow “men” like herr dubyah, rummy, bugman Delay and dead eye dick a pass. Cue the HYSTERIA.


  87. missmolly Says:

    What is the response of the Right to these names?

    Bill Clinton
    Ted Kennedy

    Comment by Zooey — November 26, 2007 @ 11:03 am

    Ones a serial rapist(more than one rape), and the other is a murderer. Now that’s fact!

    Comment by Southern Man — November 26, 2007 @ 1:42 pm

    Yep — that DOES seem to be the response of the Right to those names. Right down to claiming this is a “fact” with no evidence, no proof, no links, no nothing — as if mere accusation makes something a fact. Predictable, really.


  88. Dr. Matt Says:

    When all else fails, mention Clinton and Faux ratings. Reich-wingers really are pathetic and predictable.


  89. missmolly Says:

    Funny how you can convict Bush for supposed crimes, yet you allow men like Kennedy and Clinton a pass.

    Comment by Southern Man — November 26, 2007 @ 1:52 pm

    Neither Clinton nor Kennedy started a war on false pretenses. Neither Clinton nor Kennedy trampled the Constitution. Neither Clinton nor Kennedy attempted to get telecom companies to spy on Americans BEFORE a terrorist attack occurred supposedly justifying such actions. Neither Clinton nor Kennedy attempted to influence elections. Neither Clinton nor Kennedy outed a covert agent to punish a political enemy. Furthermore, Clinton and his staff recognized that Congress was a legitimate branch of the government and they responded to subpoenas.

    But all that aside, Clinton isn’t President anymore. Kennedy is still in the Senate — returned there SEVEN TIMES by the voters of Massachusetts since his accident at Chappaquiddick (I think they have forgiven him). Neither one of these men is an issue anymore.

    BUSH is the President. And if he is committing crimes in office, we have every reason to be concerned. Pointing fingers at others is just distracting relativism.

    If you are going to defend Bush, defend his actions directly.


  90. Shayne Says:

    Southern Man believes Democrats get away with crimes and Republicans are persecuted. Take your meds Delusional Man. Ronald Reagan accused of date rape when he was President of the Screen Actors Guild. George H. W. Bush kept his mistress through his entire presidency and nobody questioned it. Clinton was never even accused of rape by Paula Jones, he was accused of sexual harrassment, nine years after the fact. And I’ll just assume you are young and weren’t around when Ted Kennedy drove off the bridge. But dumbass, you think he’s the only person who ever drove a car into a lake? Do you know how many survivors there are? Look it up dumbass.


  91. Shayne Says:

    If you are going to defend Bush, defend his actions directly.

    Comment by missmolly — November 26, 2007 @ 2:08 pm

    missmolly, you’re speaking intelligently to Southern Man? You are an optimist. It will probably take him an hour to look up the big words you used.


  92. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    it’s always been known. Just ignored by some.

    Comment by Southern Man — November 26, 2007 @ 2:15 pm

    I think I’ve isolated the crux of the whole Right/Left divide.

    When the Left talks of “facts” they mean information verified by objective sources and supported by hard evidence. The Right uses the same word, but different definition. When the Right speaks of “facts” they simply mean stuff some people “know”.


  93. Dr. Matt Says:

    Try refuting the words from the victim missmolly. And as far as Teddy, it’s always been known. Just ignored by some.
    Comment by Southern Man — November 26, 2007 @ 2:15 pm

    Provide some proof and facts. First, look up the word “proof” and then the word “facts”, then you can get back to us.


  94. Dr. Matt Says:

    Dumbass?
    Comment by Southern Man — November 26, 2007 @ 2:24 pm

    Obsessing over Ted Kennedy and ignoring the murderous traitor herr dubyah makes you the dumbass. Now, that’s a fact.


  95. Dr. Matt Says:

    He’s a lame duck like Bill was his last two years in office.

    Mr. Clinton had a 60%+ approval rating his last two years in office. Herr dubyah has the worst approval rating in the history of that office.


  96. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Comment by Southern Man — November 26, 2007 @ 2:24 pm

    Obsessing over Ted Kennedy and ignoring the murderous traitor herr dubyah makes you the dumbass. Now, that’s a fact.

    Comment by Dr. Matt — November 26, 2007 @ 2:31 pm

    Dr. Matt, I applaud your effort at reaching across the divide by using the word “fact” in a manner familiar to SM. I don’t think he will recognize it, but you still deserve credit for the attempt.


  97. Dr. Matt Says:

    SM is more proof that Southerns are indeed inbred stupid hicks.


  98. Dr. Matt Says:

    present the facts from the victim(Juanita) in her own words.

    Those are not facts, son. Again, skeeter, look up the definition of a “fact” and get back to us. You reich-wingers and your tin foil hate conspiracies are priceless.


  99. Hemlock for Gadflies Says:

    Ironic much? “FOX for Liberals, abandoning any pretense of balance or objectivity”. Does that mean they understand that FOX is neither balanced nor objective?


  100. Dr. Matt Says:

    Skeeter, I can post thousands upon thousands of links that detail how herr dubyah is a criminal, treasonous, a liar, a murderer, etc….using your perverse reich-wing “logic”, those links are all facts.


  101. republicans hate facts Says:

    I’m not obsessing Nurse Matt. Comment by Southern Man — November 26, 2007 @ 2:45 pm

    Another self loathing, homophobic projecting Republican closet case - oh, the surprise!!! Why don’t you put away that WIDE STANCE, and go get some therapy - poor little ‘tard!


  102. republicans hate facts Says:

    Tucker is a young republican who somehow got on TV with the big boys and girls. I used to watch crossfire until I realized that their attempt to have a balanced debate was a ruse. Tucker couldn’t hold his own against Carville or Begalla, and CNN knew this. Put in one of the rights really heavy hitters if you want balance on CNBC.
    Comment by Southern Man — November 26, 2007 @ 2:37 pm

    What’s your point? You ‘tards can NEVER hold you own! That’s why your blogs censor, and why your ’shows’ cut off the mic’s!!!

    Tucker got there the same way ALL of you ‘tards do - he knows someone! To be specific, his DADDY (at least one of them) is a GOP insider. You wingnuts NEVER get anywhere on your own talents - if you had any you’d be liberals!


  103. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Now, now, Dr. Matt; SM is right in that it is a fact that Juanita has made these accusations.

    That doesn’t make the “assault” she alleges a FACT, but let’s assume SM isn’t sophisticated enough to tell the difference. (The level of his discourse certainly seems to justify that assumption.)

    While most of us would tend to rely on things like criminal convictions to support charges of criminality — like Scooter Libby being a convicted perjurer, for instance — SM is much happier clinging to outdated or discredited smears as his version of “facts”. And why wouldn’t he be? Reality’s liberal bias is well known. It must get exhausting trying to justify your beliefs when the objective universe keeps undermining them. After a while, what choice do you have but to lower the bar on what is a “fact”?


  104. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Resort to name calling when you lose an argument much nurse matt?

    Comment by Southern Man — November 26, 2007 @ 2:49 pm

    Another irony-deficient right-winger. Beautiful.


  105. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    The only irony in this room is that all the women have left. Irony is that two women who were injurred by two very powerful men, are still respected. Not beautiful.

    Comment by Southern Man — November 26, 2007 @ 2:59 pm

    Were you even attempting to make sense with this?

    (By the way, the irony to which I was referring was your claim that another poster resorted to name calling when losing an argument in the same sentence in which you name-called. Rich. Very rich.)


  106. Wayne Says:

    Were you even attempting to make sense with this?
    Comment by ralph the wonder llama — November 26, 2007 @ 3:07 pm

    Slothern Idiot-Man doesn’t need to make sense, he just posts the inane to try to derail the threads.

    None of his posts make sense and only flaunt his achievements in the highest levels of stupidity.


  107. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Understood, Wayne, but most of SM’s posts at last look like he tried to make sense wth them. That last one just looked like his robo-troll random sentence generator took over.


  108. iluvobama45 Says:

    THIS SHOULD PISS OFF SOME FOLKS HERE USA USA USA USA USA USA USA, some of u guys are scary as hell, the first post on here calls for public executions of right wingers, no one has rebuked those comments, you guys are jim jones types, if tucker goes so be it, but david shuster has this quivering lip thing going on that makes him unwatchable to me, i dont think he can stand the heat, not thattucker is that good but geez you guys, all tucker would have to do is come up with some scandal involving the republicans or the military or anything involving bush, and u guys would be fawning over him……..u guys are too easy to please…an example is kieth olbermann….once he steps out of line u’ll go after him too………you guys are crazy……USA USA


  109. pluege Says:

    dropping any pretense of objectivity or balance.

    so conservatives finally admit that this is the FOX hallmark…sing hallelujah, the truth shall set you free.
    .


  110. Leftside Annie Says:

    Well, crap now, southern eejit.

    I can say anything I want on the Internets - say, how about this one:

    George Bush raped me!!!!

    See? I can say that a million times on the internets, but that certainly doesn’t make it true.

    “Some people say” doesn’t qualify as investigative reporting, son.


  111. republicans hate facts Says:

    Why do you always resort to reffering to people who disagree with you “homophobic, closet cases”? I think the real problem of homophobics is within you. You should stay away from gay people. You might further understand yourself and where the hate comes from rhf.
    Comment by Southern Man — November 26, 2007 @ 2:55 pm

    Why do you always make obvious “gay-slur” posts, and act surprised when people recognize you for the closet case you are! If you want me to stay away from gay people, then perhaps you should stop posting here? If you go to a therapist, you might further understand yourself and where the self loathing and hate comes from southern woman!


  112. republicans hate facts Says:

    The only irony in this room is that all the women have left. Irony is that two women who were injurred by two very powerful men, are still respected. Not beautiful.
    Comment by Southern Man — November 26, 2007 @ 2:59 pm

    But the women haven’t all left - you’re still here!


  113. Shayne Says:

    Hey dumbass, yeah that’s you Southern Man. Neither of your links for Juanita NBC interview work. Not the video and not the transcript. All you have is the lame ass letter she wrote to Hillary 20 some years after the fact. And as a woman it looks to me like she slept with Hillary’s husband and didn’t like getting busted for it. But then again there are no links to the “real” interview.


  114. shaun Says:

    c’mon people!! - he’s not that bad - ok,he may be a geek and a bit retarded but he’s no where near as bad as hannity,gibson,coulter and the likes


  115. neoconsrscum Says:

    T uck
    * ucker, uh, you know what I mean. he’s a punk.


  116. bbain Says:

    Poor Tucker, couldn’t cut it in the big leagues. I guess it’s back to a safe place for Tuck on some bogus right wing spin cast. Do you think people are starting to catch on, that the right wing “shock” factor is tiresome? Hey Tuck, i’m one of those “retarded cousins” (Canadian) you once referred to on one of your blast offs. Tucker was funny though. At least he had the balls to “expand” his resume by challenging the other side. Unlike Coulter and O’Reily who, even though their ratings are in the tank, can’t seem to gather enough intellegence to break away from the “shock factor.” I stand corrected, I think Coulter has balls…..real ones. No brains though.


  117. JoeySoCal Says:

    Dear MSNBC,

    Tucker Carlson is a self-absorbed, ego-maniac, and thus very much a bore to watch.

    Put David Shuster in his spot, David is gripping and engaging, because he actually cares about facts- can you imagine?

    Joey,
    LA area


  118. Tender Chicken Says:

    and the other is a murderer. Now that’s fact!

    Comment by Southern Man — November 26, 2007 @ 1:42 pm

    And how many people’s deaths has your dear George W. Bush caused, Southern Fool? Not just those innocent Iraqi civilians that I’m sure you don’t give a flying F about, but thousands of this nation’s troops. The blood of all of them on George W. Bush’s hands and yours. Proud of yourself? Explain why.


  119. Tender Chicken Says:

    Face it, libs: The mainstream is watching real news, and wants a balanced viewpoint, thus, Fox News.

    I used to watch a lot of CNN…decades ago when there was no choice. I still watch sometimes for an hour a day…when Glenn Beck is on.

    Comment by O. Bigfoot — November 27, 2007 @ 12:55 am

    Right. The song and dance is over BigA$$. Your game of coming here to make “outrageous” comments to get a rise out of people is, like you, boring. Go now to your KKK meeting, where you belong.


  120. Tender Chicken Says:

    Wake up, man. Where ya’ been? Dennis Miller is syndicated nationwide. (They can do that now…for about the last 60 years.)

    Comment by O. Bigfoot — November 27, 2007 @ 1:02 am

    Even Dennis Miller knows his career is over. Let’s see, he went from network television to a lousy radio show. Yup, he’s really movin’ on up! Get real. I actually feel sorry for Dennis Miller. He showed promise once upon a time, but now he’s just a pathetic fool. Like you. Sad.


  121. Tender Chicken Says:

    As for Tucker Carlson, isn’t he from a well-monied family? We’re not going to boo-hoo for him. No doubt he’s set for life financially. He can now express his hate and intolerance and stupidty during family dinners, where it belongs. He never deserved a public platform to begin with.



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