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Always wrong, never in doubt.

By Faiz Shakir on Nov 27th, 2007 at 1:00 pm

Always wrong, never in doubt.

“Rudy Giuliani said yesterday he ‘never had any doubt‘ that if he were President four years ago, he would have invaded Iraq. He said he is now ‘even more certain’ that it was the correct national security move.” Rudy then kicked it up yet another notch: “I actually believe that Democrats are going to agree with me on that by the time we get to the general election.”



49 Responses to “Always wrong, never in doubt.”

  1. raynman says:

    I wonder if its something in the water?

    I hope its not contagious…. although it appears to be since 24% of the population still believes this crap.


  2. hellinabucket says:

    By the time we get to the general election Rudy will be firmly planted on the sidelines.


  3. Leftside Annie says:

  4. rastaman says:

    we need to keep Rudy on top so he gets the nomination….

    he is soooooooooooooo easy to discredit.


  5. robbez_92107 says:

    Don’t be so sure you’re going to the general election, Rudy. The rotting stench of Bernie Kerik is going to be pretty hard to wash off.


  6. deebaser says:

    If the ‘08 election is Giuliani v. Clinton… New York will probably just stay home.


  7. missmolly says:

    What IS this guy smoking?

    It seems to me that Giuliani is still living in the post-9/11 days when he was a media darling and he could say any stupid thing and people would hang on it like it was gospel.

    But he’s dreaming if he thinks that 1) a populace, 75% of whom oppose the war, will elect him as their president, and 2) that he thinks he will be able to convince a war-weary nation that our occupation of Iraq is a wonderful thing.

    Unless he knows something we don’t. Is there an Iraqi terrorist force out there somewhere poised to blow up the Empire State Building? Sears Tower? Disneyland? Only another terrorist attack could galvanize a warmonger’s candidacy, and this scares me somewhat.


  8. Bobwurst says:

    re 7

    What exactly, beyond republican talking points, do you find objectionable about Hillary? Really. She is not my favorite canaditate, by far, but I will vote for her rather than stay home on election day.


  9. Leftside Annie says:

    Huh. I don’t think Rudy knows any REAL Democrats…


  10. Buckie Boy says:

    Uh, who is this “WE” tRudy? You think we would agree that invading and occupying Iraq for building bases so we could control ME Oil deposits, all the while murdering hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and thousands of our own soldiers? You really think that we would AGREE ON THAT?

    You’re an fascist idiot.

    Bush/Cheney
    Hague Trials ‘09

    Buck Fush


  11. Winski says:

    Kool-Aide hose just keeps getting bigger and bigger…HOPEFULLY it will burst soon!!


  12. Chris L says:

    It seems to me that it would be political suicide at this time for a candidate to say he would have invaded Iraq too. In 2003 that would fly pretty well, but not now. Iraq was not a threat in any way at all. They had nothing to do with 9/11. They had no WMD. There simply was no reason to invade, force regime change, and stay permanently in a nation-building capacity.


  13. delafield says:

    I can’t imagine Rudy Giuliani’s finger being inches away from the big red button in the White House that launches 30,000 nuclear ICBMs. It’s just too frightening.


  14. DieNowForPeace says:

    “Good-gravy!” as grandma says, (and SHE’S even against the war!), is this guy in a duel with McCain to see who can dig the deepest hole?


  15. JoshDest says:

    I’ve seen the caricatures of politicans who say the most ridiculous, obviously pandering things…but never in my life would I imagine seeing one actually come to life.

    Giuliani….is a complete joke.


  16. Veritas says:

    Rudy’s certifiably nutso, that’s clear now. He’s not only the most “unqualified” candidate in the race, he’s also showing the people how seriously demented he is. Maybe it’s senile dementia? To suggest that any democrat would rally around him merely illustrates his total grasp on reality.


  17. Veritas says:

    And, what’s more, by the time he election rolls around, his ties to organized crime and his criminal actions will be so well known that no one will even want to know the man or be associated with him.


  18. Veritas says:

    Rudy Giuliani: Poster Boy for the adage – “There’s no Fool like an Old, inexperienced fool”.


  19. Veritas says:

    I’m just wondering how he would answer that question, Dr. Matt? Maybe he’d spout the same lies as Bush? If so, it’s political suicide.


  20. Veritas says:

    The more Ghouliani talks, the more he paints himself into a very small corner.


  21. Veritas says:

    #8 Since Ground Zero was erected two days prior to 9/11, perhaps he does know something. What the people do know now is that Ghouliani was the “annointed one” to benefit from 911 – just like Bush thought he would. Too much controversy and unanswered coincidences running around the country right now for Rudy to not become one of the prime suspects.


  22. Veritas says:

    Debaser & Bobwurst: It won’t ONLY be a choice between the lesser of two evils on election day. There will be challengers emerging from the Independent voters, trust me – and challengers with a lot more going for them then Rudy and Hillary combined.


  23. Blue Stater says:

    I hear Liechtenstein is a threat, are they next?

    Seriously, this statement alone should disqualify him from office. The thing is that people who don’t live in New York seem to be buying what he’s selling. He as president scares the living ___ out of me. I’m hoping that as people pay more attention they will see he is filled with utter BS, but it scares me that he has not already been laughed off/thrown off the national stage.


  24. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    Rudy sez: “I actually believe that Democrats are going to agree with me on that by the time we get to the general election.”

    Is Rudy having ANOTHER affair – this time with Joe Lieberman? That’s the only way I can see that he could make such a deluded statement.


  25. Wayne says:

    I find it hard to believe such a moron is the leading candidate for the Republicans.
    Then again, I look at the current president and I understand why a moron is their leading candidate.

    In 12 more years, the Republicans will be nominating potted plants if they keep this trend going.


  26. lefty says:

    Security advice from the man who ignored the recommendation to put the emergency command center in Brooklyn. He put it in the #1 terrorist target in the world (which had already been hit) so he could bang his mistress. And he wanted a crook with mob ties to run Homeland Security.

    Oh and he has psychopathic neocons as his foreign policy advisors who are eager to plunge the world into a nuclear holocaust.


  27. Bob says:

    No doubt about invading Iraq and putting the ‘Comand Central’ in the World Trade complex after its target status was established fact are two of the best reasons NOT to vote for this putz.


  28. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    In 12 more years, the Republicans will be nominating potted plants if they keep this trend going.

    Comment by Wayne — November 27, 2007 @ 1:39 pm

    You sure can set up the jokes: Bush the potted (and cocained and alcoholed) shrub, planted in the White House by the neocons who watered his ego just enough to keep him pliable but in the dark enough so he didn’t grow out of the container they put him in. Mission accomplished.


  29. AmandaBlow says:

    Can someone please tell Rudy Giuliani : the last thing America needs after 8 yrs of hell with idiot Bush is a MOBSTER PRESIDENT. We don’t want the Italian Mafia in the White House! Hell no!


  30. deebaser says:

    re 7

    What exactly, beyond republican talking points, do you find objectionable about Hillary? Really. She is not my favorite canaditate, by far, but I will vote for her rather than stay home on election day.

    Comment by Bobwurst — November 27, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
    ——-

    Well she’s worse than an empty suit in Washington. She’s a carpetbagger. As a Senator she has done NOTHING for our state. She doesn’t even give the appearance of doing diddles.

    She doesn’t do her job. Clinton’s an opportunist that took the title for her presidential ambitions. I do not like her. A lot of politically active people in NY do not like her.

    Edwards ‘08


  31. Chris L says:

    I would like for Rudy to address veterans of OIF who still don’t know if any good has come of this war


  32. sacopenapa says:

    HEY RUDDY, WOULD ALSO LIE ABOUT IRAQ/9-11 CONNECTION, WMD, ALUMINIUM TUBES, MISSION ACOMPLISHED??? OK, OK, LETS CHANGE THE SUBJECT… RUDDY, HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT WTC7 WAS GOING TO COLLAPSE?! AND, A BIT OUT OF YOUR JURISDICTION, BUT, TRY TO EXPLAIN HOW COME THE THREE TOWERS HAD TOTAL COLLAPSE IN LESS THAN TEN SECONDS! TOTAL COLLAPSE! AND DO YOU BY ANY CHANCE HAVE THE FOOTAGE OF A 757 HITTING THE PENTAGON?! DO YOU?


  33. sacopenapa says:

    “I actually believe that Democrats are going to agree with me on that by the time we get to the general election.”
    HEY RUDDY, ARE YOU AND YOUR BUDDIES PLANNING YET ANOTHER ATTCK???????!!!!!!! 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!


  34. sacopenapa says:

    IF SO, RUDDY, MAKE SURE THAT THE NEXT TOWER DOE NOT GO AGAINST THE LAWS OF PHISICS WHEN IT COMES DOWN… PRETEND TO LEAVE SOMETHING STANDING, JUST LIKE CHANCE WOULD… AND MAKE SURE IT TAKES MORE THAN FREE FALL SPEED TO COME DOWN. THIS WAY WE COULD NOT TELL IF IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB OR NOT.


  35. Wilco says:

    Is deebaser un chien andalusia?


  36. VerbalKint says:

    I get the feeling that Republican candidates are swinging for the fences because they know whoever gets the nomination will be saddled with the legacy of the failed Bush presidency, and they are just praying that something lucky will happen in Iraq.


  37. Leftside Annie says:

    Lordy. All these Republicans must have REALLYteensy peeners.


  38. Mugsy says:

    Once again: proof that Neo-Conservativism is a mental disorder.


  39. upside99 says:

    Rudee will be lucky to get a job as a night Security Guard at Wal-Mart after all his little “issues” surface. His One-trick-pony is wearing very thin and his personal life will be a real anchor on his ship.

    Unfortunately, he may be the only repug who can beat Hil.


  40. deebaser says:

    Is deebaser un chien andalusia?

    Comment by Wilco — November 27, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
    —–

    Yup, I’m slicing up eyeballs too. =D


  41. Veritas says:

    Rudy Giuliani – Part of the False Flag Operation


  42. Veritas says:

    Upside: Good to see you. Yeah, Rudy’s personal life and a few commercials showing his children outing him will be all that’s needed to sink his ship.


  43. Veritas says:

    Debaser: Hillary is the most polarizing individual in this country, next to George W. Bush. She represents the Establishment and is in the pocket of special interest groups who have funded her totally.
    Her vote to enable the Emperor into this highly illegal war will tank her. I don’t see her garnering the women’s vote either. Most women cannot relate to her when she did her “stand by her man” routine while Bill was getting his rocks off. Women know that the ONLY reason she pretended to handle it so well was for precisely THIS moment – running for President.

    Everything that Hillary has done in her entire life has been with this end goal clearly in mind. Nothing about Hillary is spontaneous – it’s all part of an “Act” for her. She’s rigid, unemotional, and closed minded. She would not govern well. She’s unapproachable and we certainly don’t need Bill back into the White House to bollix up the works again.


  44. Veritas says:

    I don’t believe that we’ve ever seen the “real Hillary”because even Hillary hasn’t met her yet. Her level of personal authenticity is non-existent and she’s a flipflopping puppet ready to acquiesce to whatever the prevailing breeze appears to be. Case in point was her flipflop on the issuance of driver’s licenses to illegal aliens in HER STATE. In the one debate, she answered honestly and realized that she was contradicting herself and suffered greatly in the polls for it. In the next debate, her monosyllabic answer of “No” only made it worse. The horse was out of the gate and there’s no reruns.


  45. Zimzone says:

    Fruity Rudy to thee we pray…STFU!


  46. ct says:

    now that we are winning in iraq – the libs will make it it a non issue. trying hard to never bring it up.

    except hillary. she will begin touting her excellent foresight in voting for the war.

    next – the libs will start attacking the economy…..the never ending attempt to talk down the economy and stay off the the topic of the war we are winning


  47. Leftside Annie says:

    Winski – pass that Kool-Aid hose to our friend at #49….

    Yikes. Poor thing is seriously deluded.


  48. austex says:

    Upside: Good to see you. Yeah, Rudy’s personal life and a few commercials showing his children outing him will be all that’s needed to sink his ship.

    Comment by Veritas — November 27, 2007 @ 3:23 pm

    There is something very telling (and damning) about the
    fact that his kids dislike him so. Much ugly baggage I hope.


  49. upside99 says:

    Upside: Good to see you. Yeah, Rudy’s personal life and a few commercials showing his children outing him will be all that’s needed to sink his ship.
    Comment by Veritas — November 27, 2007 @ 3:23 pm

    Yea, Veritas and Austex, I have a real problem when the kids not only dislike him, they are open about it.

    Even Ronnie Raygunz kids (2 out of 3, anyway), waited til he was not running before they got too carried away, publicly.



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