1) But you haven’t posted any. And if you do after this, it will probably be your reading something into a post that isn’t actually there. Every time you write such BS, many liberals/progressives here quickly post retorts to you; I’ve seen them even if you haven’t or–more likely– haven’t grasped what they say.
2) According to John McCain, Barry Goldwater and George McGovern were very close. Does that make Goldwater a liberal, or McGovern a conservative? Just because you probably don’t have any liberal friends, it doesn’t necessarily follow that other people can be pals with people of different political leanings.3)
3) That’s right, Troll-boy, I can’t help that November 30 is my birthday, and it will be happier without dealing with you. LOL! And さようなら、阿呆！

I already said that November 30 is my birthday, and I have other parties to go to. So I will not be responding to any more of your abusive accusations. Cheney off, Troll-boy!

And your new-found hero Sarkosy was part of the Chirac administration and a member of the same party, Mr. “I don’t deal in speculation only proven facts.” Where are you proven facts that Chirac was a liberal. I provided a source f(Wikipedia, like it or not) or Chirac as a centrist/rightist; you have provided nothing but your own opinion that he was a “liberal.” Mr. “I don’t deal in speculation only proven facts” and TP’s new expert on French politics, who probably doesn’t speak French and has never lived in France. (My apologies in advance if I am wrong about these points. As for me, I do and I have.) I have already acknowledged that American neo-cons may not consider Chriac one of their own, but no American liberals claim him, either. So instead of bothering to post a link to some rightwing site that calls Chirac a liberal, if such a site even exists, why don’t we just acknowledge that he was an eccentric maverick, neither liberal nor conservative, or something along those lines?
Oh, and Mr. “I don’t deal in speculation only proven facts,” what proof do you have for statements like “Most of those who post here and TP wants (SIC–the subject is plural) the U.S. to fail in Iraq and their government…..? Last year when I asked you what proof you have for your similar statement to one of the posters here along the lines of “you don’t want democracy to succeed in Iraq,” your reply was to the effect that no liberal poster has written that they wanted to see democracy to succeed in that Iraq. By your “reasoning” then, one can conclude that since no one in the Bush WH denied that gay hooker/phony journalist Jeff Gannon was there for several overnights for sexual reasons, then he must have been there for sexual purposes. And BTW, when asked by you, I gave my honest OPINION (which I am entitled to just as much as you are entitled to believe in God, Santa Claus, and trickle down economic effects or whatever) that Gannon was probably sexually servicing someone in the WH. I didn’t say it was a fact; however it is a fact that he was there several times even when there were no press conferences at the WH and even before “Talon News” for which he related the content of press conferences came into existence. Sorry, little Lord Flaunteroy, until the Bush WH stops stonewalling and gives a reasonable explanation about the gay hooker’s frequent presence at the WH, I will remain suspicious.
Finally, Mr. “I don’t deal in speculation only proven facts,” who has nevertheless speculated that I must be terribly far to the left, I, too, like Richardson among the Democrats, though I don’t think he will get the nomination. Still, I am hoping that he will at least be selected as the running mate (VP).
I have a busy weekend ahead, so don’t expect a prompt reply–if I bother giving one at all.

There has never been any proof of that. Glad you said “may have”.
Comments by Tracy2 — November 29, 2007 @ 1:31 pm

I wrote that Chirac may have been centrist. But, in any case, if you think I am far to the left, you must be a kool-aid addict–not just a recreational drinker. On a political placement test, I came out “centrist to liberal.”
As for proof of voter obstruction, there have been arrests of Republicans in both Ohio and New Hampshire. I also have a relative who was working at a poling place in Ohio, so I have a first-hand account.
Finally, I don’t need condolences from a troll who thinks Dumbya Bush is a good president. However, I will accept a “Happy Birthday” from anyone on or around Nov. 30.

I won’t even go into the voter obstruction in 2004, which has put some Republiscum in prison in both Ohio and New Hampshire and may have had effect on the very close outcome of the election in 2004, for you appear to have forgotten all the seats lost by the GOP just last year.
I can’t speak with authority about the UK and Australia, though all the Brits and Aussies I’ve met are against the Iraq war. But I have lived in Japan and have degrees in Japanese studies. So I can say with authority that the Japanese gave victory to (then) Prime Minister Koizumi’s party in an election for the House of Representatives two years ago, despite overwhelming opposition among the public to the Iraq war. Other issues were in play at that time, and also Koizumi had some charisma rare in a Japanese politician. However, under Koizumi’s even more hawkish successor, Abe, the LDP met with a resounding defeat in an election for the House of Councillors this past July, and now a more liberal coalition has the majority in that body.
In any case, as you yourself acknowledge in regard to Howard’s rcent defeat. other issues do come into play in an election.

No, sweetie (not), I don’t think Hugo Chaves(SI) is a centerist(SIC) nor a centrist, for that matter. Maybe Chirac was a centrist, but he certainly was not a classic liberal, which is why he split the right-centrist vote. Your garbled sentence on that proves nothing.

New rules about becoming a lobbyist. Basically if they waited they wouldn’t be able to get that nice golden parachute they have been waiting for after retiring from government for two years.

Basically, its about the money.

Comment by Tracy2 — November 27, 2007 @ 2:21 pm

They wouldn’t, they opposed the invasion you twit.

Oh, and Sarkozy? Yeah, he got in after saying that he felt as a friend to America, France has a duty to tell you when you are being dumbasses. Hardly a stirring endorsement of America’s invasion of Iraq.

So, you are saying Bush hasn’t taken us below the Third World, yet? That’s quite an argument you got!

How many medals did John Kerry win after he volunteered for combat duty in Vietnam? Bush had to go AWOL from his champagne unit after they began including a drug test as part of the flight physical.

Isn’t the US the only one in the “coalition of the bribed” who is in a combat role today?

You’re on to something there, though the jury is out as to whether they are running from Bushco, or their own personal scandals. Either one works for me.

1)Iceland 2)Norway 3)Australia 4)Canada 5)Ireland 6)Sweden
7)Switzerland 8)Japan 9)Holland
10)France 11)Finland 12)US
13)Spain 14)Denmark 15)Austria

You will notice that all the ones except the US are downright socialistic. In fact, there are no developed countries to the right of the US.

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Is it possible that this is at least partially why certain GOP congresscritters like Trent Lott and Dennis Hastert are stepping down now — because they’ve seen the handwriting on the wall and decided that it would be better to step down voluntarily and maintain some semblance of dignity instead of experiencing the ignominy of being voted out of office?

The correct, and unsurprising, answer is:

a. Disappear in silent shame.

Chirac, a liberal, eh? That’s too stupid for me to even LOL.
I know you want to blame liberals for everything that goes wrong in the world, but Chirac was not a liberal. He and Sarkozy are, in fact, from the same party. Chirac’s last victory was attained against Jospin, the Socialist candidate, and Le Pen, the ultra far-right racist candidate. I could quote a lot here about Chirac’s generally conservative record, but for space reasons I will use just the following description from Wikipedia:
“Chirac made his first run for president against Giscard d’Estaing in the 1981 election, thus splitting the centre-right vote.”

I really wish that LGF would send us some trolls that are competent and have some guts. You obviously have neither.

Run along now, little trollie, your mother at LGF is calling you home now that its dark.

THE IRON-WILLED PRESIDENT
Sarkozy Mounts Showdown against the Unions
By Stefan Simons in Paris

“In a showdown over pension reform, French President Nicolas Sarkozy is trying to wrestle power from the unions and establish himself as the steward of the country’s long-overdue modernization process. Meanwhile, as fears grow over possible job cuts and rising prices, new strikes could be on the horizon.”