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		<title>By: Sabyen91</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/27/healthcare-immigrant/comment-page-5/#comment-4172684</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabyen91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 07:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, boo-hoo SDD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, boo-hoo SDD.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4172684', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SDD</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/27/healthcare-immigrant/comment-page-5/#comment-4169971</link>
		<dc:creator>SDD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buzzflash should be ashamed of themselves for linking this article on their website. 

The FACT is illegal immigrants have almost forced hospitals in Southern Arizona and California to shut down. Our government and OUR tax dollars have had to rescue these hospitals, but for some hospitals it still isn&#039;t enough:

&quot;We have a high level of foreign nationals who have no coverage, no ability to pay, so the cost of that burden was falling on the backs of not only hospitals but also physicians and ambulance services,&quot; explains UMC Chief Financial Officer Kevin Burns.

link:

http://www.kold.com/global/story.asp?s=4877061


We have a healthcare crisis of our own in this country and yet our government has chosen to give free healthcare to people who have violated our laws. It isn&#039;t right and we have every right to be upset about this, especially when our healthcare premiums are skyrocketing as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buzzflash should be ashamed of themselves for linking this article on their website. </p>
<p>The FACT is illegal immigrants have almost forced hospitals in Southern Arizona and California to shut down. Our government and OUR tax dollars have had to rescue these hospitals, but for some hospitals it still isn&#8217;t enough:</p>
<p>&#8220;We have a high level of foreign nationals who have no coverage, no ability to pay, so the cost of that burden was falling on the backs of not only hospitals but also physicians and ambulance services,&#8221; explains UMC Chief Financial Officer Kevin Burns.</p>
<p>link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kold.com/global/story.asp?s=4877061" rel="nofollow">http://www.kold.com/global/story.asp?s=4877061</a></p>
<p>We have a healthcare crisis of our own in this country and yet our government has chosen to give free healthcare to people who have violated our laws. It isn&#8217;t right and we have every right to be upset about this, especially when our healthcare premiums are skyrocketing as a result.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4169971', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregor Samsa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/27/healthcare-immigrant/comment-page-5/#comment-4169293</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregor Samsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Not to be suspicious or anything, but the researcher heading thisâ€¦has the last name of Ortega.
Comment by JoshDest â€” November 28, 2007 @ 10:03 am&lt;/i&gt;

Who is a PhD. The team includes people by the last names of 
Fang, Rizzo, Carter-Pokras, Wallace, and Gelberg -most of whom also hold PhDs. 

What is your point, exactly?

&lt;i&gt;Second, this had a population sample of 44,000 peopleâ€¦in California.&lt;/i&gt;

And that is a bad thing, because.... ?

&lt;i&gt;Doesnâ€™t matter if they â€œuse less,â€ what matters is if they use ANY.&lt;/i&gt;

The point of the post is not that it&#039;s a good thing that they use less, but that they are not putting the system in crisis as the reichwingers would have us believe. 

&lt;i&gt;So Iâ€™m supposed to assume that not one of the millions coming here breaking the law, is a rapistâ€¦a pedophileâ€¦a murdererâ€¦or even worse?&lt;/i&gt;

Wha? How do you go from they &quot;are not a burden on the U.S. health care system&quot; to &quot;none is a rapist&quot;? How are the two statements even remotely related? 

Did you read the post? I suspect you didn&#039;t bother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Not to be suspicious or anything, but the researcher heading thisâ€¦has the last name of Ortega.<br />
Comment by JoshDest â€” November 28, 2007 @ 10:03 am</i></p>
<p>Who is a PhD. The team includes people by the last names of<br />
Fang, Rizzo, Carter-Pokras, Wallace, and Gelberg -most of whom also hold PhDs. </p>
<p>What is your point, exactly?</p>
<p><i>Second, this had a population sample of 44,000 peopleâ€¦in California.</i></p>
<p>And that is a bad thing, because&#8230;. ?</p>
<p><i>Doesnâ€™t matter if they â€œuse less,â€ what matters is if they use ANY.</i></p>
<p>The point of the post is not that it&#8217;s a good thing that they use less, but that they are not putting the system in crisis as the reichwingers would have us believe. </p>
<p><i>So Iâ€™m supposed to assume that not one of the millions coming here breaking the law, is a rapistâ€¦a pedophileâ€¦a murdererâ€¦or even worse?</i></p>
<p>Wha? How do you go from they &#8220;are not a burden on the U.S. health care system&#8221; to &#8220;none is a rapist&#8221;? How are the two statements even remotely related? </p>
<p>Did you read the post? I suspect you didn&#8217;t bother.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4169293', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JoshDest</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/27/healthcare-immigrant/comment-page-5/#comment-4168241</link>
		<dc:creator>JoshDest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m as liberal as the day is long...but once again, this amounts to crap.

184, you&#039;re spot on.

Not to be suspicious or anything, but the researcher heading this...has the last name of Ortega.  

Second, this had a population sample of 44,000 people...in California.  

I for one, who because of my traveling for work quite a bit, have been in more than 3 ER rooms for various things...have seen MANY people who couldn&#039;t even speak English when trying to register, just in those 3 ER rooms, spread across the country.  

Doesn&#039;t matter if they &quot;use less,&quot; what matters is if they use ANY.  Do you think they give their correct address for tracking and pay the huge bills?  I&#039;m sorry...using less doesn&#039;t mean their unpaid bills only amount to a few hundred dollars; have you SEEN an ER bill?

Illegals 1)Shouldnt&#039; be here, 2)WOULDN&#039;T be here if American companies weren&#039;t trying to rape both the illegals, AND Americans for more $  added to their bottom line.

When America had its dark days, did the imported British flee to another country because they weren&#039;t happy with the one they had?

Did France give up and let go of its statehood?  Has any country&#039;s people, in its past just give up and flood into a better one because they&#039;re not happy by the MILLIONS?

This is ridiculous.  Any unnaturally inflated population over a relatively short period of time WILL cause damage, whether it be by the millions more discarded water bottles, and garbage, and that&#039;s just to the environment.

They&#039;re people...yes. But work with mexico to improve standards of living, enforce labor law, etc.  Even IF the immigration laws were reformed liberally, they STILL wouldn&#039;t accommodate millions of people at a time.

My God this shouldn&#039;t even be an issue.  You don&#039;t even know who these people are; they&#039;re under the radar.  So I&#039;m supposed to assume that not one of the millions coming here breaking the law, is a rapist...a pedophile...a murderer...or even worse?  How the hell can u track that?

They keep wages low also...ask the chicken farm down in Georgia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m as liberal as the day is long&#8230;but once again, this amounts to crap.</p>
<p>184, you&#8217;re spot on.</p>
<p>Not to be suspicious or anything, but the researcher heading this&#8230;has the last name of Ortega.  </p>
<p>Second, this had a population sample of 44,000 people&#8230;in California.  </p>
<p>I for one, who because of my traveling for work quite a bit, have been in more than 3 ER rooms for various things&#8230;have seen MANY people who couldn&#8217;t even speak English when trying to register, just in those 3 ER rooms, spread across the country.  </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t matter if they &#8220;use less,&#8221; what matters is if they use ANY.  Do you think they give their correct address for tracking and pay the huge bills?  I&#8217;m sorry&#8230;using less doesn&#8217;t mean their unpaid bills only amount to a few hundred dollars; have you SEEN an ER bill?</p>
<p>Illegals 1)Shouldnt&#8217; be here, 2)WOULDN&#8217;T be here if American companies weren&#8217;t trying to rape both the illegals, AND Americans for more $  added to their bottom line.</p>
<p>When America had its dark days, did the imported British flee to another country because they weren&#8217;t happy with the one they had?</p>
<p>Did France give up and let go of its statehood?  Has any country&#8217;s people, in its past just give up and flood into a better one because they&#8217;re not happy by the MILLIONS?</p>
<p>This is ridiculous.  Any unnaturally inflated population over a relatively short period of time WILL cause damage, whether it be by the millions more discarded water bottles, and garbage, and that&#8217;s just to the environment.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re people&#8230;yes. But work with mexico to improve standards of living, enforce labor law, etc.  Even IF the immigration laws were reformed liberally, they STILL wouldn&#8217;t accommodate millions of people at a time.</p>
<p>My God this shouldn&#8217;t even be an issue.  You don&#8217;t even know who these people are; they&#8217;re under the radar.  So I&#8217;m supposed to assume that not one of the millions coming here breaking the law, is a rapist&#8230;a pedophile&#8230;a murderer&#8230;or even worse?  How the hell can u track that?</p>
<p>They keep wages low also&#8230;ask the chicken farm down in Georgia.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168241', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: southerncapricorn</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/27/healthcare-immigrant/comment-page-5/#comment-4168237</link>
		<dc:creator>southerncapricorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the video, Mugsy. They may be correct, immigrants most probably don&#039;t increase crime very much. Immigrants are honest people going through the legal process of migrating to this country. Illegal aliens are a whole different story. Illegal immigrants, illegal aliens, and undocumented workers have no respect for our laws or for us. Illegal migration is illegal and those supporting it are guilty of aiding and abetting criminal activity.  We have no room in this country for illegal migrants and their accomplices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the video, Mugsy. They may be correct, immigrants most probably don&#8217;t increase crime very much. Immigrants are honest people going through the legal process of migrating to this country. Illegal aliens are a whole different story. Illegal immigrants, illegal aliens, and undocumented workers have no respect for our laws or for us. Illegal migration is illegal and those supporting it are guilty of aiding and abetting criminal activity.  We have no room in this country for illegal migrants and their accomplices.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168237', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mugsy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/27/healthcare-immigrant/comment-page-5/#comment-4168226</link>
		<dc:creator>Mugsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Video from about a year ago:

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXqMTcufLFw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fed Res study: Illegal Immigration does NOT increase crime.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

Those &quot;illegal immigrant&quot; myths are falling like dominoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Video from about a year ago:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXqMTcufLFw" rel="nofollow">Fed Res study: Illegal Immigration does NOT increase crime.</a></strong></p>
<p>Those &#8220;illegal immigrant&#8221; myths are falling like dominoes.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168226', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: southerncapricorn</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/27/healthcare-immigrant/comment-page-5/#comment-4168225</link>
		<dc:creator>southerncapricorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A slanted survey already 5 years old? As a matter of fact 2003 was before the feds ordered hospitals give free health care to illegal aliens priority over uninsured citizens.  I am officially contesting this report. If you can&#039;t prove it you can&#039;t print it as public information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A slanted survey already 5 years old? As a matter of fact 2003 was before the feds ordered hospitals give free health care to illegal aliens priority over uninsured citizens.  I am officially contesting this report. If you can&#8217;t prove it you can&#8217;t print it as public information.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168225', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: toasterhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>toasterhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;but letâ€™s put the blame where it really belongs here. The problem would not exist if Bush and his cadre of criminals (Republicans) were enforcing the immigration laws already on the books.

We wouldnt even be dealing with illegal immigration if Bush were making sure that our laws were enforced.

Comment by patooty â€” November 28, 2007 @ 8:39 am&lt;/i&gt;

Enforcement is not a solution.   Rounding up and deporting 13 million undocumented individuals is technically impossible, economically suicidal, and morally reprehensible.   &quot;Illegal immigration&quot; can only be solved holistically.  And the people standing in the way are the ones who profit.  

Also - there are plenty of Bush cronies who benefit from having an undocumented class of cheap labor to exploit.  And there are plenty of Bush cronies who benefit from dumping of agricultural products on Mexico and other Latin American countries, thus increasing the rural poverty that immigrants are escaping when they come to the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>but letâ€™s put the blame where it really belongs here. The problem would not exist if Bush and his cadre of criminals (Republicans) were enforcing the immigration laws already on the books.</p>
<p>We wouldnt even be dealing with illegal immigration if Bush were making sure that our laws were enforced.</p>
<p>Comment by patooty â€” November 28, 2007 @ 8:39 am</i></p>
<p>Enforcement is not a solution.   Rounding up and deporting 13 million undocumented individuals is technically impossible, economically suicidal, and morally reprehensible.   &#8220;Illegal immigration&#8221; can only be solved holistically.  And the people standing in the way are the ones who profit.  </p>
<p>Also &#8211; there are plenty of Bush cronies who benefit from having an undocumented class of cheap labor to exploit.  And there are plenty of Bush cronies who benefit from dumping of agricultural products on Mexico and other Latin American countries, thus increasing the rural poverty that immigrants are escaping when they come to the US.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168208', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: progresivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>progresivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you still bothering with this issue ?? It is impossible to kick illegal inmigrants out, and even if it could be possible the US economy would be seriously hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you still bothering with this issue ?? It is impossible to kick illegal inmigrants out, and even if it could be possible the US economy would be seriously hurt.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168203', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: willyloman</title>
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		<dc:creator>willyloman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S. 1959 Will Label Us All as Terrorists! Take Action to Stop It!

We cannot allow them to sneak in and pass this Unconstitutional bill in silence without debate, like the House did! RTR wrote this and it should be viewed by anyone who has ever written that this administration and their globalist agenda is wrong for the country!

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2007/11/28/s-1959-will-make-us-terrorists-take-action-to-stop-it/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S. 1959 Will Label Us All as Terrorists! Take Action to Stop It!</p>
<p>We cannot allow them to sneak in and pass this Unconstitutional bill in silence without debate, like the House did! RTR wrote this and it should be viewed by anyone who has ever written that this administration and their globalist agenda is wrong for the country!</p>
<p><a href="http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2007/11/28/s-1959-will-make-us-terrorists-take-action-to-stop-it/" rel="nofollow">http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2007/11/28/s-1959-will-make-us-terrorists-take-action-to-stop-it/</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168186', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: patooty</title>
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		<dc:creator>patooty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush and the Republicans enabled this problem so let them personally pay the tab for everything these illegal immigrants want, desire, or need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush and the Republicans enabled this problem so let them personally pay the tab for everything these illegal immigrants want, desire, or need.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168176', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: patooty</title>
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		<dc:creator>patooty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what part of illegal does this country not get?

but let&#039;s put the blame where it really belongs here.  The problem would not exist if Bush and his cadre of criminals (Republicans) were enforcing the immigration laws already on the books.

We wouldnt even be dealing with illegal immigration if Bush were making sure that our laws were enforced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what part of illegal does this country not get?</p>
<p>but let&#8217;s put the blame where it really belongs here.  The problem would not exist if Bush and his cadre of criminals (Republicans) were enforcing the immigration laws already on the books.</p>
<p>We wouldnt even be dealing with illegal immigration if Bush were making sure that our laws were enforced.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168174', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: patooty</title>
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		<dc:creator>patooty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ER&#039;s in the state of Texas are folding at an unprecedented rate because 90% of the patients are illegal immigrants using bogus names and never paying a red cent for their treatment.  Americans scramble around trying to find a health care plan and pay through the nose while illegals get free healthcare. 

This study is bogus.  Besides, what part of the word - illegal - do the people not understand?  Do you think that any american could go to their country and get free medical care?  Do you think that any american could go to any country in the world and get free medical attention?  It would never happen.

The dumming down of america also means that we&#039;re stupid enough to take pipe ourselves and pay through the nose while illegal immigrants get everything free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ER&#8217;s in the state of Texas are folding at an unprecedented rate because 90% of the patients are illegal immigrants using bogus names and never paying a red cent for their treatment.  Americans scramble around trying to find a health care plan and pay through the nose while illegals get free healthcare. </p>
<p>This study is bogus.  Besides, what part of the word &#8211; illegal &#8211; do the people not understand?  Do you think that any american could go to their country and get free medical care?  Do you think that any american could go to any country in the world and get free medical attention?  It would never happen.</p>
<p>The dumming down of america also means that we&#8217;re stupid enough to take pipe ourselves and pay through the nose while illegal immigrants get everything free.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168173', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Xisithrus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/27/healthcare-immigrant/comment-page-4/#comment-4168131</link>
		<dc:creator>Xisithrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Motie â€” My eldest read Nivenâ€™s books, Iâ€™d forgotten about Moties. :-)


Cool.


GNZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Motie â€” My eldest read Nivenâ€™s books, Iâ€™d forgotten about Moties. :-)</p>
<p>Cool.</p>
<p>GNZ<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168131', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I feel like a Motie some days Zooey watching our civilisation muck itself up once again
Comment by Xisithrus â€” November 28, 2007 @ 1:34 am&lt;/em&gt;

It&#039;s as if we really can&#039;t help ourselves.  

Motie -- My eldest read Niven&#039;s books, I&#039;d forgotten about Moties.  :-)

I better take my cold to bed.  Goodnight, X.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I feel like a Motie some days Zooey watching our civilisation muck itself up once again<br />
Comment by Xisithrus â€” November 28, 2007 @ 1:34 am</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s as if we really can&#8217;t help ourselves.  </p>
<p>Motie &#8212; My eldest read Niven&#8217;s books, I&#8217;d forgotten about Moties.  :-)</p>
<p>I better take my cold to bed.  Goodnight, X.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168130', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Xisithrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xisithrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We could face the greatest economic collapse since they first started minting metal coins.-Pete

We will be using Ameros by the year 2010-2012 and the oil in Iraq will be our reserve currency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could face the greatest economic collapse since they first started minting metal coins.-Pete</p>
<p>We will be using Ameros by the year 2010-2012 and the oil in Iraq will be our reserve currency.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168129', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of making heads explode.

The combination of record low dollar, record high oil, falling property value, and capitalistic economies in Russia, China and others; is unprecedented.

OPEC and various other entities (including Airbus) are on the verge of refusing payment in U.S. Dollars. This &quot;perfect storm&quot; could make &#039;29 look like a &quot;minor adjustment&quot;. Anyone who has substantial investments, in U.S. Dollars, is very nervous.

Combine this with the utter destruction of goodwill around the world? We could face the greatest economic collapse since they first started minting metal coins.

G&#039;night humans.
You too trolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of making heads explode.</p>
<p>The combination of record low dollar, record high oil, falling property value, and capitalistic economies in Russia, China and others; is unprecedented.</p>
<p>OPEC and various other entities (including Airbus) are on the verge of refusing payment in U.S. Dollars. This &#8220;perfect storm&#8221; could make &#8216;29 look like a &#8220;minor adjustment&#8221;. Anyone who has substantial investments, in U.S. Dollars, is very nervous.</p>
<p>Combine this with the utter destruction of goodwill around the world? We could face the greatest economic collapse since they first started minting metal coins.</p>
<p>G&#8217;night humans.<br />
You too trolls.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168128', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Xisithrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xisithrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Cake its not a good idea to revise ANY historical battles. 

What is it the Marxists say; Let the dead bury the dead. [[Let time bury time.]]

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I feel like a Motie some days Zooey watching our civilisation muck itself up once again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Cake its not a good idea to revise ANY historical battles. </p>
<p>What is it the Marxists say; Let the dead bury the dead. [[Let time bury time.]]</p>
<p>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</p>
<p>I feel like a Motie some days Zooey watching our civilisation muck itself up once again<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168127', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I am beginning to think that the word â€œracismâ€ has taken on an entirely new meaning beyond its original intent, a catch-all term for those who wish only to smear.
Comment by Cake Incorporated â€” November 28, 2007 @ 1:29 am&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s the kind of thing people such as yourself like to say to excuse themselves from their racist attitudes.  

It&#039;s ok, we understand what you&#039;re about.  republicans hate facts states it pretty clearly @ 169.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I am beginning to think that the word â€œracismâ€ has taken on an entirely new meaning beyond its original intent, a catch-all term for those who wish only to smear.<br />
Comment by Cake Incorporated â€” November 28, 2007 @ 1:29 am</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s the kind of thing people such as yourself like to say to excuse themselves from their racist attitudes.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s ok, we understand what you&#8217;re about.  republicans hate facts states it pretty clearly @ 169.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168126', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Cake Incorporated</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cake Incorporated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This completely racist and dimwitted comment is brought to you by Cake!&lt;/i&gt;

Well at least you are refusing to break the mold of most of the comments leveled against me tonight; racist AND dimwitted.  

I am beginning to think that the word &quot;racism&quot; has taken on an entirely new meaning beyond its original intent, a catch-all term for those who wish only to smear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This completely racist and dimwitted comment is brought to you by Cake!</i></p>
<p>Well at least you are refusing to break the mold of most of the comments leveled against me tonight; racist AND dimwitted.  </p>
<p>I am beginning to think that the word &#8220;racism&#8221; has taken on an entirely new meaning beyond its original intent, a catch-all term for those who wish only to smear.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168124', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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