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		<title>By: williamsonj</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/ashcroft-waterboarded/comment-page-4/#comment-4190198</link>
		<dc:creator>williamsonj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m willing to chip in for the cost of the equipment for Ashcroft to try it. I would pay the whole cost to see Tricky Dick Chaney get to enjoy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m willing to chip in for the cost of the equipment for Ashcroft to try it. I would pay the whole cost to see Tricky Dick Chaney get to enjoy it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4190198', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Blade</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/ashcroft-waterboarded/comment-page-4/#comment-4170735</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Blade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the video of the confrontation YOU MUST WATCH THIS!!!
PLEASE


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-825912082256624261&amp;hl=en-GB

ASHCROFT DID NOT KNOW THE VIDEO CAMERA WAS THERE AND SHOWS IS REAL SIDE..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the video of the confrontation YOU MUST WATCH THIS!!!<br />
PLEASE</p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-825912082256624261&amp;hl=en-GB" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-825912082256624261&amp;hl=en-GB</a></p>
<p>ASHCROFT DID NOT KNOW THE VIDEO CAMERA WAS THERE AND SHOWS IS REAL SIDE..<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4170735', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: thammuz</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/ashcroft-waterboarded/comment-page-4/#comment-4169997</link>
		<dc:creator>thammuz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also am willing for Ashcrofts to be waterboarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also am willing for Ashcrofts to be waterboarded.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4169997', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/ashcroft-waterboarded/comment-page-4/#comment-4169889</link>
		<dc:creator>curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps there are some members who were formerly with the military who might volunteer to waterboard this disgusting insult to the human race.

A co-worker who was in the military for eighteen years indicated that part of his training was to be waterboarded. He stated that it is so unpleasant that a person would eventually say anything to stop it.

Why not hold the event on national television until Ashcroft admits to raping infants, and once he does, then haul him off to jail. 

Ashcroft would need to either stand by his torture-induced confession and spend the next few years in prison, and, as a child rapist, his time there would be, shall we say, &quot;interesting&quot; OR he would need to assume the stance (a wide one, to be sure), that he said what he did only to terminate the feeling of being drowned.

Should he choose the latter option, then he could be asked to explain why we should trust confessions obtained from suspected â€œterristsâ€ by implementing such procedures.

This could be an extremely popular and lucrative pay-per-view event â€” so where is the MSM?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps there are some members who were formerly with the military who might volunteer to waterboard this disgusting insult to the human race.</p>
<p>A co-worker who was in the military for eighteen years indicated that part of his training was to be waterboarded. He stated that it is so unpleasant that a person would eventually say anything to stop it.</p>
<p>Why not hold the event on national television until Ashcroft admits to raping infants, and once he does, then haul him off to jail. </p>
<p>Ashcroft would need to either stand by his torture-induced confession and spend the next few years in prison, and, as a child rapist, his time there would be, shall we say, &#8220;interesting&#8221; OR he would need to assume the stance (a wide one, to be sure), that he said what he did only to terminate the feeling of being drowned.</p>
<p>Should he choose the latter option, then he could be asked to explain why we should trust confessions obtained from suspected â€œterristsâ€ by implementing such procedures.</p>
<p>This could be an extremely popular and lucrative pay-per-view event â€” so where is the MSM?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4169889', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: keithgabryelski</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/ashcroft-waterboarded/comment-page-4/#comment-4169803</link>
		<dc:creator>keithgabryelski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Missed opportunity.

Do not ask a tough guy if he is willing to take a bullet.
Ask if his wife is willing.

These are the issues our servicemen are dealing with.  If we torture, our servicemen will be tortured.

This needs to be brought home to those that do not serve but ask our finest to serve them.

I&#039;ve left a-side the oft:

What part of &quot;internationally recognized crime against humanity&quot; does he not understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missed opportunity.</p>
<p>Do not ask a tough guy if he is willing to take a bullet.<br />
Ask if his wife is willing.</p>
<p>These are the issues our servicemen are dealing with.  If we torture, our servicemen will be tortured.</p>
<p>This needs to be brought home to those that do not serve but ask our finest to serve them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve left a-side the oft:</p>
<p>What part of &#8220;internationally recognized crime against humanity&#8221; does he not understand?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4169803', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: shoeless</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/ashcroft-waterboarded/comment-page-4/#comment-4169760</link>
		<dc:creator>shoeless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;If heâ€™s willing to do this, then it should be done by the book.

Comment by manny&lt;/em&gt;

Were you talking about Ashcroft, O. Bigfoot, or both?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>If heâ€™s willing to do this, then it should be done by the book.</p>
<p>Comment by manny</em></p>
<p>Were you talking about Ashcroft, O. Bigfoot, or both?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4169760', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: vflog</title>
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		<dc:creator>vflog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the video-flogging of former Attorney General John Ashcroft at CU Boulder on Tuesday night. Hear from the Colorado woman who actually asked Ashcroft that question.  See what happened when she waited out back to take him up on his offer to be waterboarded.

In case you havenâ€™t heard, a vflog is a political vlog (video-log) of a citizen verbally flogging an elected representative or public official. A vflog is the video version of a political blog.

http://www.vflog.com/
Bringing the 1st Amendment into the 21st Century</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the video-flogging of former Attorney General John Ashcroft at CU Boulder on Tuesday night. Hear from the Colorado woman who actually asked Ashcroft that question.  See what happened when she waited out back to take him up on his offer to be waterboarded.</p>
<p>In case you havenâ€™t heard, a vflog is a political vlog (video-log) of a citizen verbally flogging an elected representative or public official. A vflog is the video version of a political blog.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vflog.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.vflog.com/</a><br />
Bringing the 1st Amendment into the 21st Century<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4169459', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mat212</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question shouldn&#039;t be whether he&#039;d survive waterboarding....it&#039;s whether &quot;it&quot; would WORK!!! Would he sell out military plans? Would he sing like a bird? If he would ....then waterboard on!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question shouldn&#8217;t be whether he&#8217;d survive waterboarding&#8230;.it&#8217;s whether &#8220;it&#8221; would WORK!!! Would he sell out military plans? Would he sing like a bird? If he would &#8230;.then waterboard on!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4169244', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: manny</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he&#039;s willing to do this, then it should be done by the book.

First, he will be renditioned by a third party. Let&#039;s say, we get Venezuela to pull it off. He will be flown in a private jet, hooded, naked and in diapers to another country where we will be assured he won&#039;t be tortured. Let&#039;s say, we send him to Egypt. We will let them hold him, for let&#039;s say, 12-18 months, before we need him for his waterboarding demonstration. But while we&#039;re doing all of this, we mustn&#039;t let his family know where he is or what happened. It will make it seem more realistic.

Second, we will then fly him once again, hooded, naked and in diapers, to another location for his demonstration. Let&#039;s say this time we send him to a secret Polish prison.  Now, let&#039;s have their people perform the waterboarding. Oh, and they shouldn&#039;t speak his language. This will confuse and disorient him even more, making the waterboarding seem even more realistic. In fact, before we let him do his waterboarding demonstration, we should keep him in stress positions without any light, for a month or two, to soften him up. And we need to make sure we play some loud music 24/7 to disorient him even more.

Now, we can let him do his waterboarding demonstration. Oh no, we just found out the person who has performed waterboarding many times successfully before has decided to take his vacation, so he&#039;s going to let the new guy in the unit do his very first waterboarding on him...Jeez, I hope it goes well. 

We just found out, the new guy did it pretty well, but he forgot to document it with videotape, so we&#039;ll schedule another one in a few days, so everyone can see how well Ashcroft did in his waterboarding demonstration.

I can&#039;t wait to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he&#8217;s willing to do this, then it should be done by the book.</p>
<p>First, he will be renditioned by a third party. Let&#8217;s say, we get Venezuela to pull it off. He will be flown in a private jet, hooded, naked and in diapers to another country where we will be assured he won&#8217;t be tortured. Let&#8217;s say, we send him to Egypt. We will let them hold him, for let&#8217;s say, 12-18 months, before we need him for his waterboarding demonstration. But while we&#8217;re doing all of this, we mustn&#8217;t let his family know where he is or what happened. It will make it seem more realistic.</p>
<p>Second, we will then fly him once again, hooded, naked and in diapers, to another location for his demonstration. Let&#8217;s say this time we send him to a secret Polish prison.  Now, let&#8217;s have their people perform the waterboarding. Oh, and they shouldn&#8217;t speak his language. This will confuse and disorient him even more, making the waterboarding seem even more realistic. In fact, before we let him do his waterboarding demonstration, we should keep him in stress positions without any light, for a month or two, to soften him up. And we need to make sure we play some loud music 24/7 to disorient him even more.</p>
<p>Now, we can let him do his waterboarding demonstration. Oh no, we just found out the person who has performed waterboarding many times successfully before has decided to take his vacation, so he&#8217;s going to let the new guy in the unit do his very first waterboarding on him&#8230;Jeez, I hope it goes well. </p>
<p>We just found out, the new guy did it pretty well, but he forgot to document it with videotape, so we&#8217;ll schedule another one in a few days, so everyone can see how well Ashcroft did in his waterboarding demonstration.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4169243', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Cordier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cordier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see Hillary perform the waterboarding of Ashcroft. Do you think John might have second thoughts about his surviving the procedure?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see Hillary perform the waterboarding of Ashcroft. Do you think John might have second thoughts about his surviving the procedure?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4169208', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Doc Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll be down to get you in a taxi, John!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll be down to get you in a taxi, John!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4169198', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bob84108</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob84108</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Comment by anton â€” November 28, 2007 @ 6:28 pm
True, so true... they were Democrats, but before you attack me about my understanding of history, you should study a little yourself before you go around belittling others.  It was a Democrat who fire bomed Dresden!!!   Based on that and the way you present yourself, the Democrats today are not the same as those who had some guts during WWII  So grow up before you put other people down, look for understanding instead of your own miopic point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Comment by anton â€” November 28, 2007 @ 6:28 pm<br />
True, so true&#8230; they were Democrats, but before you attack me about my understanding of history, you should study a little yourself before you go around belittling others.  It was a Democrat who fire bomed Dresden!!!   Based on that and the way you present yourself, the Democrats today are not the same as those who had some guts during WWII  So grow up before you put other people down, look for understanding instead of your own miopic point of view.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4169160', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: anton</title>
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		<dc:creator>anton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If the the so called progressives here had their way the US would have never one WWII as quickly as we did.&quot;

bob84108,

What the are you talking about?  Both presidents during WWI and WWII were DEMOCRATS!  Who do you think ended WWII by deciding to use nuclear bombs?  A democrat.

History, bob84108, learn it, before you talk like you understand the world around you.  

Here&#039;s a free lesson.   Talking tough and sending other people&#039;s kids into war isn&#039;t strength.   Strength is having the intelligence, patience, respect, understanding and wisdom to know how to prevent or at least end war.  

The Bible, the oft cited moral authority on which the Republicans stand: 

Who&#039;s better?  A warrior or a patient man?

Proverbs 16:32 - Better a patient man than a warrior, a man who controls his temper than one who takes a city.

How do you deal with your enemies?

Proverbs 25:21 - If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.   

But don&#039;t blame me for that advice, blame God.

Is there a time for War?  Yes.  In Defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the the so called progressives here had their way the US would have never one WWII as quickly as we did.&#8221;</p>
<p>bob84108,</p>
<p>What the are you talking about?  Both presidents during WWI and WWII were DEMOCRATS!  Who do you think ended WWII by deciding to use nuclear bombs?  A democrat.</p>
<p>History, bob84108, learn it, before you talk like you understand the world around you.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a free lesson.   Talking tough and sending other people&#8217;s kids into war isn&#8217;t strength.   Strength is having the intelligence, patience, respect, understanding and wisdom to know how to prevent or at least end war.  </p>
<p>The Bible, the oft cited moral authority on which the Republicans stand: </p>
<p>Who&#8217;s better?  A warrior or a patient man?</p>
<p>Proverbs 16:32 &#8211; Better a patient man than a warrior, a man who controls his temper than one who takes a city.</p>
<p>How do you deal with your enemies?</p>
<p>Proverbs 25:21 &#8211; If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.   </p>
<p>But don&#8217;t blame me for that advice, blame God.</p>
<p>Is there a time for War?  Yes.  In Defense.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4169126', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: BushSunkOurShip</title>
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		<dc:creator>BushSunkOurShip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the criminal data mining of our dictator and his war hawks, he would have no shame in sharing with the whole world the  informantion he illegally received on the democrats.

Bush and the republicans do not need facts, they invent their own BS and facts, then give it to their corporate news media to run  with.
The whole group of Bush&#039;s &amp; war hawks were to much of a chicken hawk to serve when they were called to serve, they were preparing for their own wealth to brother with serving their country.

Rush had a pimple on his a... , which doesn&#039;t seems to be a problem while sitting in his chair calling soldier fighting in Iraq phony soldiers.

Cheney who sought and obtained five deferments to stay out of the military during the Vietnam War.

Check Rudy , Thomason and all the brave Republican chicken Hawks when it comes to sending others to do what they too chicken out of...

They are only patriotic when they are sending others to gain wealth and power for them and their friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the criminal data mining of our dictator and his war hawks, he would have no shame in sharing with the whole world the  informantion he illegally received on the democrats.</p>
<p>Bush and the republicans do not need facts, they invent their own BS and facts, then give it to their corporate news media to run  with.<br />
The whole group of Bush&#8217;s &amp; war hawks were to much of a chicken hawk to serve when they were called to serve, they were preparing for their own wealth to brother with serving their country.</p>
<p>Rush had a pimple on his a&#8230; , which doesn&#8217;t seems to be a problem while sitting in his chair calling soldier fighting in Iraq phony soldiers.</p>
<p>Cheney who sought and obtained five deferments to stay out of the military during the Vietnam War.</p>
<p>Check Rudy , Thomason and all the brave Republican chicken Hawks when it comes to sending others to do what they too chicken out of&#8230;</p>
<p>They are only patriotic when they are sending others to gain wealth and power for them and their friends.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4169080', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: williamf</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashcroft would willingly submit to waterboarding.  Unlike the many who have been waterboarded who did not agree to submit.  Apples and Oranges Ashcroft.  In your case, by agreeing to it, you remove the stigma of assault.  Being waterboarded against one&#039;s will, without agreeing to it, is a classic case of assault.  A criminal act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashcroft would willingly submit to waterboarding.  Unlike the many who have been waterboarded who did not agree to submit.  Apples and Oranges Ashcroft.  In your case, by agreeing to it, you remove the stigma of assault.  Being waterboarded against one&#8217;s will, without agreeing to it, is a classic case of assault.  A criminal act.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4169075', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/ashcroft-waterboarded/comment-page-4/#comment-4169026</link>
		<dc:creator>Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;m sure he&#039;s more than ready to be butt-pyramided too, and to have an electric cattle prod shoved up his rear end while they&#039;re at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s more than ready to be butt-pyramided too, and to have an electric cattle prod shoved up his rear end while they&#8217;re at it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4169026', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tokin librul</title>
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		<dc:creator>tokin librul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dumbocraps will not stir up the water because they are as dirty, as complicit, as besmirched in every particular as the other wing of their party, the GOPukes. 
When will you recognize that there is fundamentally NO DIFFERENCE between them?
Both earnestly bend every effort to the achievement of wholesale corporate hegemonic domination on the global scale, and the preservation of an elite oligarchic Corporate State at ome. They differ in NO particular as to those ends, and only slightly as to the means.
A million people surrounding the BuSHiteHouse with pitchforks, buckets of tar, torches, and bales of feathers might effect a change, because the fascists likely would be forced to resort to extreme violence to dissipate such a crown, or they&#039;d be compelled to depart for their estates in Paraguay.

BTW, fwiw, i served: USAF, &#039;64-&#039;68</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dumbocraps will not stir up the water because they are as dirty, as complicit, as besmirched in every particular as the other wing of their party, the GOPukes.<br />
When will you recognize that there is fundamentally NO DIFFERENCE between them?<br />
Both earnestly bend every effort to the achievement of wholesale corporate hegemonic domination on the global scale, and the preservation of an elite oligarchic Corporate State at ome. They differ in NO particular as to those ends, and only slightly as to the means.<br />
A million people surrounding the BuSHiteHouse with pitchforks, buckets of tar, torches, and bales of feathers might effect a change, because the fascists likely would be forced to resort to extreme violence to dissipate such a crown, or they&#8217;d be compelled to depart for their estates in Paraguay.</p>
<p>BTW, fwiw, i served: USAF, &#8216;64-&#8217;68<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168987', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bob84108</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob84108</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#180
I can only speak for myself, and I served.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#180<br />
I can only speak for myself, and I served.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168904', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: telecon</title>
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		<dc:creator>telecon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a reason why they say war is hell, and believe me we are at war with those who would kill a progressive faster than a conservative. If the the so called progressives here had their way the US would have never one WWII as quickly as we did. No I dont like some of the very ugly things that are done in war, but that is why war is hell. So all you progressives can keep your hands clean and keep your greater than thou attitudes while true patriots do the dirty work.

Comment by bob84108 â€” November 28, 2007 @ 11:41 am

oh really? progs can keep their hands clean? Like the chickenhawk leadership that never served?
like these?
http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a reason why they say war is hell, and believe me we are at war with those who would kill a progressive faster than a conservative. If the the so called progressives here had their way the US would have never one WWII as quickly as we did. No I dont like some of the very ugly things that are done in war, but that is why war is hell. So all you progressives can keep your hands clean and keep your greater than thou attitudes while true patriots do the dirty work.</p>
<p>Comment by bob84108 â€” November 28, 2007 @ 11:41 am</p>
<p>oh really? progs can keep their hands clean? Like the chickenhawk leadership that never served?<br />
like these?<br />
<a href="http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168872', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bob84108</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob84108</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To owlbear1
What ever happened to seperation of powers??  I would think no branch of the government could ignore the law with out the other branches taking action.  By the way why I do elucidate myself, but I also like to draw onbrilliant minds like yours when ever possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To owlbear1<br />
What ever happened to seperation of powers??  I would think no branch of the government could ignore the law with out the other branches taking action.  By the way why I do elucidate myself, but I also like to draw onbrilliant minds like yours when ever possible.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4168850', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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