Comments on: Coal Industry Sponsoring Tonight’s CNN/YouTube Republican Presidential Debate http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:22:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Kahoneez http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4169295 Kahoneez Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:07:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4169295 I see the<strong> COORS</strong> logo there also which has a long record record with right wing " think tanks" , in fact I believe they helped start several , with papa Joseph dolling out big bucks to advance his right wing agenda . Just Google Coors - think tanks- right wing . "<strong>Journalist Russ Bellant</strong> examines the influential but little-known role of the Coors beer family in American politics. Through their philanthropic donations, Joseph Coors and other family members have bankrolled a right-wing agenda of union-busting, homophobia, sexism, racism, and covert operations. The Coors family has served as the cornerstone of the right-wing movement known as the New Right. " I see the COORS logo there also which has a long record record with right wing ” think tanks” , in fact I believe they helped start several , with papa Joseph dolling out big bucks to advance his right wing agenda . Just Google Coors – think tanks- right wing .

“Journalist Russ Bellant examines the influential but little-known role of the Coors beer family in American politics. Through their philanthropic donations, Joseph Coors and other family members have bankrolled a right-wing agenda of union-busting, homophobia, sexism, racism, and covert operations. The Coors family has served as the cornerstone of the right-wing movement known as the New Right. “

]]> By: Cactus Jack1 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4169206 Cactus Jack1 Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:19:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4169206 I'm haveing trouble with the coal thing and need help finding out what is right. I know coal burning has always been dirty but we have a majoe power plant locally that is very clean, so clean I can only see the steam from the boilers. It uses Wyoming coal and is very clean. Can't some coal or all coal be burned and scrubbed? I’m haveing trouble with the coal thing and need help finding out what is right. I know coal burning has always been dirty but we have a majoe power plant locally that is very clean, so clean I can only see the steam from the boilers. It uses Wyoming coal and is very clean.

Can’t some coal or all coal be burned and scrubbed?

]]> By: Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4169015 Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:09:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4169015 American Standard, the manufacturer of toilets and toilet stalls will be sponsoring the next Republican debate. American Standard, the manufacturer of toilets and toilet stalls will be sponsoring the next Republican debate.

]]> By: Frosty Cupcake http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4169005 Frosty Cupcake Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:07:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4169005 "We should be following Germany’s example with Solar Power." Absolutely. That's why solar power makes so much sense here in sunny Florida and I'm relieved that Crist is taking such a positive step in this direction. It makes for good, rational policy. “We should be following Germany’s example with Solar Power.”

Absolutely. That’s why solar power makes so much sense here in sunny Florida and I’m relieved that Crist is taking such a positive step in this direction.

It makes for good, rational policy.

]]> By: Frosty Cupcake http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4168999 Frosty Cupcake Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:04:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4168999 Are you ready to see Charlie Crist as your next VP? He would make a great addition to any ticket, but it appears likely that he will focus on Florida until at least 2012. Comment by cold_hard_left — November 28, 2007 @ 12:23 pm "He would make a great addition to any ticket" Yeah, I think he would. At any rate, I prefer him to any of the Republicans and some of the Democrats, too. Are you ready to see Charlie Crist as your next VP? He would make a great addition to any ticket, but it appears likely that he will focus on Florida until at least 2012.

Comment by cold_hard_left — November 28, 2007 @ 12:23 pm

“He would make a great addition to any ticket”

Yeah, I think he would. At any rate, I prefer him to any of the Republicans and some of the Democrats, too.

]]> By: Bush Cover Ups http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4168629 Bush Cover Ups Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:05:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4168629 14- 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Nice link - Even Freiburg's premier league soccer stadium is solar powered. 14- 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda

Nice link – Even Freiburg’s premier league soccer stadium is solar powered.

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4168614 The Republic of Stupidity Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:55:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4168614 or something… the coal will run out, just as the oil is… … Comment by katy — November 28, 2007 @ 1:34 pm I believe there is the technology available to make coal plants burn much, much cleaner, katy. It's simply a matter of economics and will power. As much as I distrust Big Coal, if they'd simply reform mining (that hideous mountain top nonsense) and make coal plants burn as clean as they could, at least it'd be a start. Oil is a dead end. As long as it's as much money as fast as possible, it's going to be a nightmare. or something… the coal will run out, just as the oil is…
…

Comment by katy — November 28, 2007 @ 1:34 pm

I believe there is the technology available to make coal plants burn much, much cleaner, katy. It’s simply a matter of economics and will power. As much as I distrust Big Coal, if they’d simply reform mining (that hideous mountain top nonsense) and make coal plants burn as clean as they could, at least it’d be a start. Oil is a dead end.

As long as it’s as much money as fast as possible, it’s going to be a nightmare.

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4168608 The Republic of Stupidity Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:51:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4168608 It’s true — the Republicans used to be the progressives, and it’s hard to believe that it was less than a century ago that the tide changed. Comment by missmolly — November 28, 2007 @ 1:14 pm WTF happened? Since they both come from the same root word, wouldn't Conservatives and Conservationists have similar interests? It’s true — the Republicans used to be the progressives, and it’s hard to believe that it was less than a century ago that the tide changed.

Comment by missmolly — November 28, 2007 @ 1:14 pm

WTF happened? Since they both come from the same root word, wouldn’t Conservatives and Conservationists have similar interests?

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4168606 Buckie Boy Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:50:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4168606 Comment by free thinking american Our Great State of Washington is a very progressive GREEN state, at least the Western Half is. Seattle has the highest per capita education level in the country and that has a lot to do with our GREEN decisions. We are also great recyclers. Bush/Cheney Hague Trails '09 Buck Fush Comment by free thinking american

Our Great State of Washington is a very progressive GREEN state, at least the Western Half is.

Seattle has the highest per capita education level in the country and that has a lot to do with our GREEN decisions. We are also great recyclers.

Bush/Cheney
Hague Trails ‘09

Buck Fush

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4168591 katy Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:34:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4168591 do a google search for FutureGen... "...a US $1 billion public-private partnership to design, build, and operate the world's first <strong>coal-fueled, zero emissions</strong> power plant." the area north of my town is competing against texas for this plant... illinois has many coal mines, high sulfur though... the plant is touted as a job producer, and so is highly sought after... i'm not sure how i feel about it... many reservations... "coal-fueled, zero emissions" sounds oxymoronic... or something... the coal will run out, just as the oil is... ... do a google search for FutureGen…
“…a US $1 billion public-private partnership to design, build, and operate the world’s first coal-fueled, zero emissions power plant.”

the area north of my town is competing against texas for this plant…

illinois has many coal mines, high sulfur though…
the plant is touted as a job producer, and so is highly sought after…

i’m not sure how i feel about it… many reservations…
“coal-fueled, zero emissions” sounds oxymoronic… or something…
the coal will run out, just as the oil is…
…

]]> By: free thinking american http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4168580 free thinking american Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:29:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4168580 Here's what we think of "Clean Coal" in Washington State: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004039453_powerplant28m.html Here’s what we think of “Clean Coal” in Washington State:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004039453_powerplant28m.html

]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4168549 missmolly Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:14:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4168549 There was a time (T Roosevelt’s days) when Repubs actually were the progressives. Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — November 28, 2007 @ 12:25 pm Don’t forget Lincoln, who freed the slaves. Comment by toasterhead — November 28, 2007 @ 12:35 pm It's true -- the Republicans used to be the progressives, and it's hard to believe that it was less than a century ago that the tide changed. Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal changed party ideologies forever, and this was further solidified when LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act. Both parties tend to use this for some rather bizarre argument points. For example, they might say that Martin Luther King grew up in a Republican family (not surprising -- Republicans back in the 30's still stood for civil rights more than Dems in the south did), or that Strom Thurmond used to be a Democrat (ditto). There was a time (T Roosevelt’s days) when Repubs actually were the progressives.

Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — November 28, 2007 @ 12:25 pm

Don’t forget Lincoln, who freed the slaves.

Comment by toasterhead — November 28, 2007 @ 12:35 pm

It’s true — the Republicans used to be the progressives, and it’s hard to believe that it was less than a century ago that the tide changed. Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal changed party ideologies forever, and this was further solidified when LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act.

Both parties tend to use this for some rather bizarre argument points. For example, they might say that Martin Luther King grew up in a Republican family (not surprising — Republicans back in the 30’s still stood for civil rights more than Dems in the south did), or that Strom Thurmond used to be a Democrat (ditto).

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4168547 Leftside Annie Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:12:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4168547 <b>Obviously</b> Gov. Crist is a loony tree-hugging moonbat who needs to be recalled immediately! /sarc off Obviously Gov. Crist is a loony tree-hugging moonbat who needs to be recalled immediately!

/sarc off

]]> By: 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4168540 2MillionLightYearsToAndromeda Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:10:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4168540 We should be following Germany's example with Solar Power. It's growing exponentially. We're so far behind the curve it's sad. We should have fully 25% of our power from solar by now. And we should aim for 50% by 2015. It can be done. It must be done. We need an administration who'll take a sledge hammer to our current energy policy. <strong>Germany embraces the sun:</strong> http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2001/07/45056?currentPage=all We should be following Germany’s example with Solar Power. It’s growing exponentially. We’re so far behind the curve it’s sad. We should have fully 25% of our power from solar by now. And we should aim for 50% by 2015. It can be done. It must be done. We need an administration who’ll take a sledge hammer to our current energy policy.

Germany embraces the sun:
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2001/07/45056?currentPage=all

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4168516 The Republic of Stupidity Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:44:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4168516 Don’t forget Lincoln, who freed the slaves. Comment by toasterhead — November 28, 2007 @ 12:35 pm True, and I read somewhere once that Lincoln actualy freed the slaves when he did to screw w/ the Confederacy's economic system, and to force them to keep more soldiers in the South waatching out for rebellious slaves. I think some historian once pointed out that if Lincoln had really wanted to end slavery for the sake of ending slavery, why did he wait until 1863, instead of doing it in 1861? Don’t forget Lincoln, who freed the slaves.

Comment by toasterhead — November 28, 2007 @ 12:35 pm

True, and I read somewhere once that Lincoln actualy freed the slaves when he did to screw w/ the Confederacy’s economic system, and to force them to keep more soldiers in the South waatching out for rebellious slaves.

I think some historian once pointed out that if Lincoln had really wanted to end slavery for the sake of ending slavery, why did he wait until 1863, instead of doing it in 1861?

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4168515 Buckie Boy Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:43:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4168515 FOOLED YOU....exactly NOT like the Democratic debate, except for the pre-approved questions of course. FOOLED YOU….exactly NOT like the Democratic debate, except for the pre-approved questions of course.

]]> By: Your Conscience http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4168514 Your Conscience Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:42:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4168514 "Sponsors by Coal and Coors. It does a body good." Sponsored by the Lung Cancer development foundation and the Citizens for Cirrhosis. “Sponsors by Coal and Coors. It does a body good.”

Sponsored by the Lung Cancer development foundation and the Citizens for Cirrhosis.

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4168513 Buckie Boy Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:42:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4168513 Uh, let's see - They will have pre-approved questions that the criminals...er ah, candidates want. They will have a pre-scanned audience, with pre-approved questions. All the candidates will be falling all over each other to show how willing they are to continue and start any war they can, (Iran) They will endorse torture. They will ignore that global warming is a reality. They will endorse even more tax cuts for the uber rich. They will endorse pollution by industry. They will continue to support the gutting of American Industry and jobs by sending them overseas. They will ignore the up and coming Recession/Depression. They will ignore the falling dollar and how to stop it. They will claim to not be gay and that they love their wives. They will avoid any questions that really matter about the economy and energy alternatives. Oh wait, that sounds exactly like the CNN democratic debate, go figure. Bush/Cheney Hague Trials '09 Buck Fush Uh, let’s see –
They will have pre-approved questions that the criminals…er ah, candidates want.

They will have a pre-scanned audience, with pre-approved questions.

All the candidates will be falling all over each other to show how willing they are to continue and start any war they can, (Iran)

They will endorse torture.

They will ignore that global warming is a reality.

They will endorse even more tax cuts for the uber rich.

They will endorse pollution by industry.

They will continue to support the gutting of American Industry and jobs by sending them overseas.

They will ignore the up and coming Recession/Depression.

They will ignore the falling dollar and how to stop it.

They will claim to not be gay and that they love their wives.

They will avoid any questions that really matter about the economy and energy alternatives.

Oh wait, that sounds exactly like the CNN democratic debate, go figure.

Bush/Cheney
Hague Trials ‘09

Buck Fush

]]> By: toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4168508 toasterhead Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:35:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4168508 <i>There was a time (T Roosevelt’s days) when Repubs actually were the progressives. Didn’t Teddy start the Nat Park System, or at least help beef it up? Grand Canyon and Adirondeck Nat Park (which the Rockefellers donated, I believe…). Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — November 28, 2007 @ 12:25 pm</i> Don't forget Lincoln, who freed the slaves. There was a time (T Roosevelt’s days) when Repubs actually were the progressives. Didn’t Teddy start the Nat Park System, or at least help beef it up? Grand Canyon and Adirondeck Nat Park (which the Rockefellers donated, I believe…).

Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — November 28, 2007 @ 12:25 pm

Don’t forget Lincoln, who freed the slaves.

]]> By: desaparecido http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/comment-page-1/#comment-4168506 desaparecido Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:34:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/gop-debate-coal/#comment-4168506 Well, they mostly want to conserve their money. www.tshirtinsurgency.com Well, they mostly want to conserve their money.

http://www.tshirtinsurgency.com

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