Comments on: Buchanan Attacks Gay General For Not Having ‘The Courage’ To ‘Come Out’ While Still Serving http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:57:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Pete Bogs http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4171663 Pete Bogs Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:40:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4171663 if he had come out way back when he would've been discharged! "cohesion" is the new buzzword, it seems... if he had come out way back when he would’ve been discharged!

“cohesion” is the new buzzword, it seems…

]]> By: gulfwargrunt http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4171412 gulfwargrunt Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:50:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4171412 Why isn't anyone talking about Duncan Hunter's statement that "Forcing the socially conservative members of the military to serve with openly gay colleagues would hurt unit cohesion." So Duncan, you are admitting that it's the prejudiced conservatives would be the source of the problem, not the gays? Wow, that sounds like the pre-1947 argument: "Forcing the conservative white Southerners to serve with negroes would hurt unit cohesion." Why isn’t anyone talking about Duncan Hunter’s statement that “Forcing the socially conservative members of the military to serve with openly gay colleagues would hurt unit cohesion.”

So Duncan, you are admitting that it’s the prejudiced conservatives would be the source of the problem, not the gays?

Wow, that sounds like the pre-1947 argument: “Forcing the conservative white Southerners to serve with negroes would hurt unit cohesion.”

]]> By: Winski http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4171379 Winski Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:33:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4171379 WHY does ANY of the media still let this fool talk?? He's a moron AND a gutless flash in the pan.. Zooey (#10) got it right about the level of his IQ...... ANOTHER ONE of the losers!!! WHY does ANY of the media still let this fool talk?? He’s a moron AND a gutless flash in the pan..

Zooey (#10) got it right about the level of his IQ……

ANOTHER ONE of the losers!!!

]]> By: Davvid http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4171299 Davvid Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:16:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4171299 The reality is that Keith Kerr could not keep his job if he came out during his service to our great nation. The "Don’t ask don’t tell" legislation was the biggest disappointment for the Clinton Administration. I only hope Hilliary can fix it when she gets in. Regardless of all the policies and protection afforded to the GLBT community (pun intended), any employer can and will find a way to terminate an employee if they feel it’s not in their best interest or morality to keep them. The reality is that Keith Kerr could not keep his job if he came out during his service to our great nation. The “Don’t ask don’t tell” legislation was the biggest disappointment for the Clinton Administration. I only hope Hilliary can fix it when she gets in.

Regardless of all the policies and protection afforded to the GLBT community (pun intended), any employer can and will find a way to terminate an employee if they feel it’s not in their best interest or morality to keep them.

]]> By: Perry logan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4171295 Perry logan Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:34:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4171295 Why can't Republicans just admit they're gay? "In 1984 I watched George W. Bush enthusiastically and expertly perform a homosexual act on another man, one Victor Ashe." http://bushssecretlifein84.tripod.com/ Why can’t Republicans just admit they’re gay?

“In 1984 I watched George W. Bush enthusiastically and expertly perform a homosexual act on another man, one Victor Ashe.”
http://bushssecretlifein84.tripod.com/

]]> By: Bruce Gorton http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4171291 Bruce Gorton Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:15:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4171291 I wonder if Buchanan's reactive arthritis bothers him now that he isn't eligable for service. I wonder if Buchanan’s reactive arthritis bothers him now that he isn’t eligable for service.

]]> By: frenchfries http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4171281 frenchfries Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:19:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4171281 "Hubris and Ideology", indeed. “Hubris and Ideology”, indeed.

]]> By: Anacher Forester http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4171142 Anacher Forester Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:53:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4171142 What a funny thing for Pat to say! If Buchanan is so damn courageous, why are we are we still waiting for <em>him</em> to "come out"? AF <a href="http://sullyisafraud.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Andrew Sullivan Is A Fraud</a> What a funny thing for Pat to say! If Buchanan is so damn courageous, why are we are we still waiting for him to “come out”?

AF

Andrew Sullivan Is A Fraud

]]> By: 29percentofusarestupid http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4171096 29percentofusarestupid Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:00:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4171096 wonder why he didn't attack Ted Haggerty for not coming out while HE was still serving the Lord....? (just a thought) wonder why he didn’t attack Ted Haggerty for not coming out while HE was still serving the Lord….? (just a thought)

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4171002 Marie Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:50:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4171002 It boggles my mind that people who may be otherwise of normal intellect go bat-sh*t crazy in regards to homosexuality. I rarely, if ever, agree with Buchanan, but I accept that he is not a stupid man -- yet in discussing homosexuals, he leaves his brain out of it. And then he puts the general in a no-win situation. I don't think Buchanan has engaged a thought process. It boggles my mind that people who may be otherwise of normal intellect go bat-sh*t crazy in regards to homosexuality.
I rarely, if ever, agree with Buchanan, but I accept that he is not a stupid man — yet in discussing homosexuals, he leaves his brain out of it. And then he puts the general in a no-win situation.
I don’t think Buchanan has engaged a thought process.

]]> By: Bobwurst http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4170983 Bobwurst Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:32:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4170983 Re Bluestocking: Yep. The same way they attack generals who retire so they can speak out against the iraq occupation. Re Bluestocking:
Yep. The same way they attack generals who retire so they can speak out against the iraq occupation.

]]> By: Bluestocking http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4170980 Bluestocking Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:28:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4170980 Give me a freakin' break already! As far as Buchanan is concerned, Kerr is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. No matter what Kerr might have chosen to do, Buchanan would most assuredly have come up with a reason to vilify him for it -- and what's more, although there's no question in my mind that he would deny it vehemently if anyone were to confront him with it, I strongly suspect that Buchanan is quite well aware of this fact. (Aesop said it best -- "any excuse serves a tyrant"). If Kerr had come out while still actively serving, Buchanan would undoubtedly have criticized him for it and probably accused him of using his orientation as a handy excuse to leave the military due to cowardice -- but since Kerr waited until leaving the service before coming out, Buchanan is criticizing him for his so-called "lack of courage". Buchanan can't possibly be ignorant of the fact that Kerr would have been forced out of the military had he chosen to come out while serving his country. Has Buchanan ever served in the military?!? I doubt it -- most of the neocons and their supporters haven't. Give me a freakin’ break already! As far as Buchanan is concerned, Kerr is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. No matter what Kerr might have chosen to do, Buchanan would most assuredly have come up with a reason to vilify him for it — and what’s more, although there’s no question in my mind that he would deny it vehemently if anyone were to confront him with it, I strongly suspect that Buchanan is quite well aware of this fact. (Aesop said it best — “any excuse serves a tyrant”). If Kerr had come out while still actively serving, Buchanan would undoubtedly have criticized him for it and probably accused him of using his orientation as a handy excuse to leave the military due to cowardice — but since Kerr waited until leaving the service before coming out, Buchanan is criticizing him for his so-called “lack of courage”. Buchanan can’t possibly be ignorant of the fact that Kerr would have been forced out of the military had he chosen to come out while serving his country. Has Buchanan ever served in the military?!? I doubt it — most of the neocons and their supporters haven’t.

]]> By: BrianFL http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4170956 BrianFL Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:01:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4170956 Buchanan is right about one thing. There is an element of fraud here. You have a fraud chickenhawk coward who never served in the military questioning the courage of a man who rose all the way from Private to Brigadier General. Kerr was former Special Forces and served in the military for 43 years. Buchanan is right about one thing. There is an element of fraud here. You have a fraud chickenhawk coward who never served in the military questioning the courage of a man who rose all the way from Private to Brigadier General. Kerr was former Special Forces and served in the military for 43 years.

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4170934 Zooey Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:47:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4170934 <em>What I don’t get it why Pattsy Boocannon doesn’t come out and admit he’s a closeted idiot. Comment by RUCerious — November 29, 2007 @ 8:21 pm</em> The door busted off that closet years ago... What I don’t get it why Pattsy Boocannon doesn’t come out and admit he’s a closeted idiot.
Comment by RUCerious — November 29, 2007 @ 8:21 pm

The door busted off that closet years ago…

]]> By: had enough http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4170923 had enough Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:40:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4170923 Haven't we learned something in the past few years?....that the more upset and bothered one is about others gayness, the more likely they too are gay? Haven’t we learned something in the past few years?….that the more upset and bothered one is about others gayness, the more likely they too are gay?

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4170907 RUCerious Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:21:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4170907 What I don't get it why Pattsy Boocannon doesn't come out and admit he's a closeted idiot. What I don’t get it why Pattsy Boocannon doesn’t come out and admit he’s a closeted idiot.

]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4170904 missmolly Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:20:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4170904 Let's see -- so far as a result of Kerr asking his question at the Republican debate, I have heard that Kerr was a Hillary plant, Kerr was given preferential treatment by being allowed to speak at the site, and now that Kerr has no guts because he obeyed "don't ask don't tell" by not telling. What I would really like to know is how the candidates answered his question. Is there some sort of problem with this? Can the Republicans answer this? Or is their only response to distract from the issue? Let’s see — so far as a result of Kerr asking his question at the Republican debate, I have heard that Kerr was a Hillary plant, Kerr was given preferential treatment by being allowed to speak at the site, and now that Kerr has no guts because he obeyed “don’t ask don’t tell” by not telling.

What I would really like to know is how the candidates answered his question. Is there some sort of problem with this? Can the Republicans answer this? Or is their only response to distract from the issue?

]]> By: had enough http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4170895 had enough Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:14:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4170895 <em>Buchanan Attacks Gay General For Not Having ‘The Courage’ To ‘Come Out’ While Still Serving</em> Buchanan attacks general for respecting the law? Is Buchanan that much of a gay hater that he is angry because Gen. Keith Kerr remained within the law therefore did not have legal action taken against him for being gay? What else could it be? Buchanan Attacks Gay General For Not Having ‘The Courage’ To ‘Come Out’ While Still Serving
Buchanan attacks general for respecting the law? Is Buchanan that much of a gay hater that he is angry because Gen. Keith Kerr remained within the law therefore did not have legal action taken against him for being gay? What else could it be?

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4170890 Lefty Patriot Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:09:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4170890 If the Republicans are afraid of questions from a gay soldier, how will they EVER stand up to al Qaeda? Comment by Badmoodman — November 29, 2007 @ 8:02 pm when have they ever done that? besides when they were delivering funding and weapons to them, that is? Saddam, meet Donnie Rumsfeld. If the Republicans are afraid of questions from a gay soldier, how will they EVER stand up to al Qaeda?

Comment by Badmoodman — November 29, 2007 @ 8:02 pm

when have they ever done that? besides when they were delivering funding and weapons to them, that is? Saddam, meet Donnie Rumsfeld.

]]> By: Badmoodman http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/comment-page-1/#comment-4170881 Badmoodman Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:02:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/buchanan-attack-gay-general/#comment-4170881 If the Republicans are afraid of questions from a gay soldier, how will they EVER stand up to al Qaeda? If the Republicans are afraid of questions from a gay soldier, how will they EVER stand up to al Qaeda?

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