Comments on: Iraqi lawmakers protest ‘humiliating’ treatment by U.S. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:11:28 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: swordsbane http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4171513 swordsbane Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:28:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4171513 <i>“If we come off as aggressive, it might be a cultural thing,” claimed Army Maj. Anton Alston, a spokesman for Multi-National Force-Iraq.</i> It MIGHT be a cultural thing? He doesn't know? I knew the poly-ticks didn't have a clue what the people were like over there, but I held out hope that someone in the military admin knew what the hell they were doing. It's a miracle that the war isn't a total disaster.... oh wait... “If we come off as aggressive, it might be a cultural thing,” claimed Army Maj. Anton Alston, a spokesman for Multi-National Force-Iraq.

It MIGHT be a cultural thing? He doesn’t know? I knew the poly-ticks didn’t have a clue what the people were like over there, but I held out hope that someone in the military admin knew what the hell they were doing. It’s a miracle that the war isn’t a total disaster…. oh wait…

]]> By: MiMiCcs http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4171259 MiMiCcs Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:47:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4171259 I wonder why they do not move Parliament out of the Green Zone? I wonder why they do not move Parliament out of the Green Zone?

]]> By: Imichael http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170877 Imichael Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:59:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170877 Americans are seen as arrogant all over the world, why would our soldiers be any different. My brother served over there and he would just complain how dumb and dirty the people were. The liberator. Americans are seen as arrogant all over the world, why would our soldiers be any different. My brother served over there and he would just complain how dumb and dirty the people were. The liberator.

]]> By: Bonnie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170873 Bonnie Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:57:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170873 There used to be a term for this: The Ugly American. There used to be a term for this: The Ugly American.

]]> By: Luis M http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170696 Luis M Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:09:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170696 <em>When one of our legislators goes somewhere, we expect the other country to totally suspend any sort of reasonable procedure to accomodate us. Comment by MapleStreet — November 29, 2007 @ 5:40 pm </em> Maybe the legislators should be treated exactly like every other citizen would be. Up to cavity searches, if needed. When one of our legislators goes somewhere, we expect the other country to totally suspend any sort of reasonable procedure to accomodate us.
Comment by MapleStreet — November 29, 2007 @ 5:40 pm

Maybe the legislators should be treated exactly like every other citizen would be.

Up to cavity searches, if needed.

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170599 MapleStreet Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:40:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170599 OK. I can understand that the Green Zone is a very likely target for violence and they have to be careful. But here we have the legislators for the very country that we're supposed to be fostering democracy in. Could we not give them some sort of positive ID and then have a special line for them ? When one of our legislators goes somewhere, we expect the other country to totally suspend any sort of reasonable procedure to accomodate us. OK. I can understand that the Green Zone is a very likely target for violence and they have to be careful. But here we have the legislators for the very country that we’re supposed to be fostering democracy in.

Could we not give them some sort of positive ID and then have a special line for them ?

When one of our legislators goes somewhere, we expect the other country to totally suspend any sort of reasonable procedure to accomodate us.

]]> By: StratRat http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170433 StratRat Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:02:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170433 <em>Many of them have either reduced or eliminated their travels to the U.S. because of the rude, arrogant treatment given them by the dumb jackasses working for the immigration service. Comment by VerbalKint</em> I hear that a lot from European business people too. There are plenty of choices for them to make about where to go. They are not going to put up with the disrespect here in US when there are other destinations available to them. Most are settling on conference calling as a means to avoid the facist states of Americkkka. Many of them have either reduced or eliminated their travels to the U.S. because of the rude, arrogant treatment given them by the dumb jackasses working for the immigration service.

Comment by VerbalKint

I hear that a lot from European business people too. There are plenty of choices for them to make about where to go. They are not going to put up with the disrespect here in US when there are other destinations available to them. Most are settling on conference calling as a means to avoid the facist states of Americkkka.

]]> By: Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170416 Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:57:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170416 Ain't USofA imperial occupation of Eye-rack wonderful? It kinda warms the cockles of fascists everywhere... Ain’t USofA imperial occupation of Eye-rack wonderful? It kinda warms the cockles of fascists everywhere…

]]> By: VerbalKint http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170408 VerbalKint Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:54:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170408 But the RNC representatives that troll here have been telling us how peaceful things are in Iraq. Why the need for the ultra-heavy security? But the RNC representatives that troll here have been telling us how peaceful things are in Iraq. Why the need for the ultra-heavy security?

]]> By: VerbalKint http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170399 VerbalKint Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:52:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170399 My European scientist colleagues say that they are treated like common criminals when passing through immigration to visit the U.S. Many of them have either reduced or eliminated their travels to the U.S. because of the rude, arrogant treatment given them by the dumb jackasses working for the immigration service. This attitude flows from the top, from our swaggering, smirking President and his Mayberry Machiavelli political appointees. My European scientist colleagues say that they are treated like common criminals when passing through immigration to visit the U.S. Many of them have either reduced or eliminated their travels to the U.S. because of the rude, arrogant treatment given them by the dumb jackasses working for the immigration service. This attitude flows from the top, from our swaggering, smirking President and his Mayberry Machiavelli political appointees.

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170380 WaltTheMan Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:47:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170380 I lived off of the economy in Germany for about two years, on assignment from a US corporation. During that time, I had access to US bases because my children opted for military ELHI (For PT conferences) instead of the German schools and I was a Scout leader on-base. The sentrys still scanned the underside and opened the trunk and hood of my car and checked all IDs whenever I entered a base. My son was dating a base commander's daughter and that required Jeep escorts. I lived off of the economy in Germany for about two years, on assignment from a US corporation. During that time, I had access to US bases because my children opted for military ELHI (For PT conferences) instead of the German schools and I was a Scout leader on-base. The sentrys still scanned the underside and opened the trunk and hood of my car and checked all IDs whenever I entered a base. My son was dating a base commander’s daughter and that required Jeep escorts.

]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170320 missmolly Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:19:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170320 When they say "U.S. soldiers" -- are they talking about members of the actual U.S. Army or other armed forces? Or are they talking about Blackwater contracted personnel -- you know, the ones we hired for "security"? When they say “U.S. soldiers” — are they talking about members of the actual U.S. Army or other armed forces? Or are they talking about Blackwater contracted personnel — you know, the ones we hired for “security”?

]]> By: raynman http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170319 raynman Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:18:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170319 Maybe they were going out to get the flowers and candy to throw at the soldiers feet? Maybe they were going out to get the flowers and candy to throw at the soldiers feet?

]]> By: J http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170317 J Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:18:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170317 Well, they should just pass a law requiring a timetable for our withdrawl... oh wait, they already did. Well, they should just pass a law requiring a timetable for our withdrawl… oh wait, they already did.

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170296 ForTruth Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:07:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170296 Aggressive certainly is our culture. Aggressive certainly is our culture.

]]> By: Marcus Aurelius http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170293 Marcus Aurelius Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:05:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170293 Eventually, something is going to snap in Iraq. With the exodus of those not willing to get involved, those remaining probably aren't willing to put up with much more crap from their occupier. Oppressed people are very crafty and hold big time grudges. US complacency at this point - as evidenced by the WH's tacit admission of the fact that they don't have, and never have had, a clue as to what we are doing in Iraq - is a very big mistake. Let's hope our dumbed-down Brass remembers the lesson of the Tet offensive. BTW: "Baghdad’s heavily fortified Green Zone." Is that all we hold? The Green Zone? Is that what all of the killing has been about? sheesh. Eventually, something is going to snap in Iraq. With the exodus of those not willing to get involved, those remaining probably aren’t willing to put up with much more crap from their occupier. Oppressed people are very crafty and hold big time grudges. US complacency at this point – as evidenced by the WH’s tacit admission of the fact that they don’t have, and never have had, a clue as to what we are doing in Iraq – is a very big mistake. Let’s hope our dumbed-down Brass remembers the lesson of the Tet offensive.

BTW: “Baghdad’s heavily fortified Green Zone.” Is that all we hold? The Green Zone? Is that what all of the killing has been about?

sheesh.

]]> By: RickS http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170288 RickS Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:04:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170288 They walked OUT of parliment to protest what a pain it is to get IN? Now they’ll just have to go through security again. Comment by Menehune All they need is there ticket stub and a hand stamp, and they can get back in without a hassle. They walked OUT of parliment to protest what a pain it is to get IN? Now they’ll just have to go through security again.

Comment by Menehune

All they need is there ticket stub and a hand stamp, and they can get back in without a hassle.

]]> By: Vet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170278 Vet Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:02:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170278 I have to defend the rank-and-file soldiers and marines who perform the security function. I'm sure they're EXTREMELY gun-shy after spending months and years in a warzone, which makes them hyper-vigilant and possible aggressive (defensive, really). Perhaps the lawmakers could meet outside of the green zone and bypass all the hassles. I have to defend the rank-and-file soldiers and marines who perform the security function. I’m sure they’re EXTREMELY gun-shy after spending months and years in a warzone, which makes them hyper-vigilant and possible aggressive (defensive, really).

Perhaps the lawmakers could meet outside of the green zone and bypass all the hassles.

]]> By: mary http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170271 mary Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:59:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170271 No wonder they don't show up every day! No wonder they don’t show up every day!

]]> By: Badmoodman http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4170265 Badmoodman Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:54:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/iraqi-lawmakers-protest-humiliating-treatment-by-us/#comment-4170265 "Legislators, like everyone else entering the Green Zone, must submit to a gauntlet of physical searches, and allow their vehicles to be inspected by bomb-sniffing dogs...etc" - - Significance is a goal and a curse, eh Iraqis? “Legislators, like everyone else entering the Green Zone, must submit to a gauntlet of physical searches, and allow their vehicles to be inspected by bomb-sniffing dogs…etc”
- – Significance is a goal and a curse, eh Iraqis?

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