Tit for tat . . . Bush never got out of the school yard that he was never in. Bush policies have consequences, unfortunately, others pay the price.

Give him time. He still has time to gain a victory in the contest. The fat lady hasnt sung yet although she does have a sheet hung over her to hide her nudity.

I wonder whether any of the presidential candidates have the stones to do that. Kuch and Edwards seem like they might, but I do not know for sure. I fear (and expect) that there will be no accountability and the resulting damage will be permanent.

These are war criminals. They believe that their means justifies the ends. They are no different in that respect than the terrorists we fight.

Well, those that “tried to kill us” actually succeeded in killing thousands of US. Last I checked, all the Sauds, and the handful of others, on the 4 9/11 planes perished, just like the non-terrorist passengers.

And, the better part if you want to live on the moral high ground, those that some in this country think we should be waterboarding aren’t terrorist. Just because someone got handed over to the US military (or CIA) or was captured by US forces somewhere in a foreign land (which just might happen to be that person’s own) does not mean they want to kill anyone. It’s just as likely that they are in the wrong place at the wrong time. So waterboard away. And enjoy what you’re told. Too bad it ain’t likely to be true. But it makes for good stories, great television and, apparently, makes the heart of those who live in fear beat stronger.

Well, at least he wasn’t the worst AG, ever!
But a close second, yes.

Speaking of morons, Ashcroft has largely proven himself to be one cept that one shining moment when he was in the hospital. Guess he thought he was going to die, and didn’t want to meet his Maker continuing to support the destruction of the U.S. Constitution. He feels better now, obviously. I don’t agree with much of anything McCain ever stands for, other than campaign contribution reform, earmark reform and certainly, the issue of torture. He’s right on target by acknowledging waterboarding as torture…and that torture is illegal, both under U.S. and international law.

Comment by DieNowForPeace

And how is Ashcroft supposed to know that? What do think he is, a lawyer?

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And by gum, U.S. law has already defined waterboarding as torture.

So he’s sidestepping the obvious. Why don’t these stupid fux just plead the 5th. They’re guilty as sin.

Comment by Bobwurst — November 30, 2007 @ 1:35 pm

Either that, or they’ll claim it’s because the terrorists are emboldened by the attitudes of libruls here in the U S of A.

Comment by Keltoi

Improved security is a statistic based on the number of sectarian murders and killings – among other things.

As I stated, if the sheer number of ‘potential’ victims is lower, it stands to reason the number of ‘actual’ victims will also be lower. This lowered casualty figure, in some small way, can be attributed to the surge, but more than likely it is based more on my initial points (exodus and ethnic cleansing).

And still, since the surge was supposed to provide ‘breathing room’ for the politicians, we still have to consider the dubious success based on this important benchmark.

If the surge doesn’t do what it was put in place to do: breathing room for political discussions and compromises, then one cannot call the surge a success no matter how low the killing statistic is.

The right side talking points generally try to elevate the success and downplay the failure, and I see that happening in this instance. If the surge does not improve the political reconciliation (it’s intended goal), then it is a failure.