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		<title>By: Tender Chicken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tender Chicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can only wonder how many people in the Bush administration those documents will condemn.  Perhaps even Bush himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can only wonder how many people in the Bush administration those documents will condemn.  Perhaps even Bush himself.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4175470', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MapleStreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>MapleStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I think about this, the more the only possibilities are bad, worse, and worst:

If the only info is that Abramov took strolls through the rose garden, then Shrub is protecting the most trivial events as executive secrets whether or not they have any standing -  an action which could easily be seen as obstruction of justice.

If the Abramov visits were &quot;indeed&quot; executive secrets, then Abramov was involved in discussions with Shrub on policy and legislation with the high probability that graft was somewhere in the picture - and- Shrub is using the law to hide his guilt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about this, the more the only possibilities are bad, worse, and worst:</p>
<p>If the only info is that Abramov took strolls through the rose garden, then Shrub is protecting the most trivial events as executive secrets whether or not they have any standing &#8211;  an action which could easily be seen as obstruction of justice.</p>
<p>If the Abramov visits were &#8220;indeed&#8221; executive secrets, then Abramov was involved in discussions with Shrub on policy and legislation with the high probability that graft was somewhere in the picture &#8211; and- Shrub is using the law to hide his guilt.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173906', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Rocker5150</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocker5150</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not trying to tie anyone into the Abramoff scandal. What I am saying is that there are obviously top democrats that are keeping things from happening. 

Some have claimed that there has been a deal made which placed impeachment &#039;off the table&#039;. I&#039;ve even heard the incredible charge that the deal included derailing court cases which would force the issue- probably the telecom immunity. GWU Professor Johnathan Turley apparently said the arrangement was well known in Washington.

Why would they agree to something like that? Future power promises? Bags of cash? Embarrassing photos? Threats? Whatever the reason, if such a deal occured they should all be removed from office and charged with obstruction of justice as well as anything else that has been going on behind the curtain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not trying to tie anyone into the Abramoff scandal. What I am saying is that there are obviously top democrats that are keeping things from happening. </p>
<p>Some have claimed that there has been a deal made which placed impeachment &#8216;off the table&#8217;. I&#8217;ve even heard the incredible charge that the deal included derailing court cases which would force the issue- probably the telecom immunity. GWU Professor Johnathan Turley apparently said the arrangement was well known in Washington.</p>
<p>Why would they agree to something like that? Future power promises? Bags of cash? Embarrassing photos? Threats? Whatever the reason, if such a deal occured they should all be removed from office and charged with obstruction of justice as well as anything else that has been going on behind the curtain.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173824', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: IMPEACH NOW</title>
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		<dc:creator>IMPEACH NOW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Aristotle&#039;s Definition Of Tyranny &amp; What BUSHCO Is Busily Constructing 	




&lt;blockquote&gt;The Justice Departmentâ€™s On-Going â€˜State Secretsâ€™ Charade&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;



....But the motherlode relates to Abramoffâ€™s meetings with Karl Rove and Rove staffers, which likely number into the hundredsâ€”and are matched by hundreds, if not thousands of emails and telephone conversations......

The trail of the Abramoff investigation led several times directly into the White House, but Bush Administration Justice Department investigators, headed by Public Integrity head, &lt;strong&gt;Noel Hillman,&lt;/strong&gt; consistently refused to follow any leads. Hillman was rewarded for keeping things on the right track. 

Heâ€™s now a federal judge.

One likely trail led straight to Alabama and the current controversy surrounding the politically motivated prosecution of &lt;strong&gt;former Governor Don E. Siegelman&lt;/strong&gt;. Abramoff and his sidekick Michael Scanlon, a former assistant to current governor Bob Riley, were deeply involved in advising and 
representing gambling interests in the Southeast. They turned their clients to support Riley in his campaign against Siegelman, and are linked to hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars which flowed into the Riley campaign coffers. It seems likely that Rove knew of or perhaps even had some marginal involvement in these funding and campaign efforts, which sit firmly in the background of the efforts to remove Siegelman from the political process through a corrupt prosecution.

more at:
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/12/hbc-90001814</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Aristotle&#8217;s Definition Of Tyranny &amp; What BUSHCO Is Busily Constructing 	</p>
<blockquote><p>The Justice Departmentâ€™s On-Going â€˜State Secretsâ€™ Charade</p></blockquote>
<p></strong></p>
<p>&#8230;.But the motherlode relates to Abramoffâ€™s meetings with Karl Rove and Rove staffers, which likely number into the hundredsâ€”and are matched by hundreds, if not thousands of emails and telephone conversations&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>The trail of the Abramoff investigation led several times directly into the White House, but Bush Administration Justice Department investigators, headed by Public Integrity head, <strong>Noel Hillman,</strong> consistently refused to follow any leads. Hillman was rewarded for keeping things on the right track. </p>
<p>Heâ€™s now a federal judge.</p>
<p>One likely trail led straight to Alabama and the current controversy surrounding the politically motivated prosecution of <strong>former Governor Don E. Siegelman</strong>. Abramoff and his sidekick Michael Scanlon, a former assistant to current governor Bob Riley, were deeply involved in advising and<br />
representing gambling interests in the Southeast. They turned their clients to support Riley in his campaign against Siegelman, and are linked to hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars which flowed into the Riley campaign coffers. It seems likely that Rove knew of or perhaps even had some marginal involvement in these funding and campaign efforts, which sit firmly in the background of the efforts to remove Siegelman from the political process through a corrupt prosecution.</p>
<p>more at:<br />
<a href="http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/12/hbc-90001814" rel="nofollow">http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/12/hbc-90001814</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173801', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Rocker5150</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocker5150</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is time for the Congress to declare a state of emergency, arrest the president and top Republican figures for treason&quot;


That seems to imply that only the top republicans are guilty. If that was the case, what you wish for would probably have already happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is time for the Congress to declare a state of emergency, arrest the president and top Republican figures for treason&#8221;</p>
<p>That seems to imply that only the top republicans are guilty. If that was the case, what you wish for would probably have already happened.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173733', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JMOHR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMOHR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has nothing to do with legal niceties.  This is merely an attack on our constitutional system.  The law will not work.  It is time for the Congress to declare a state of emergency, arrest the president and top Republican figures for treason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has nothing to do with legal niceties.  This is merely an attack on our constitutional system.  The law will not work.  It is time for the Congress to declare a state of emergency, arrest the president and top Republican figures for treason.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173446', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EvilPoet</title>
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		<dc:creator>EvilPoet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Wouldnâ€™t it be nice to learn that St. Ronnie Reagan (who supported the South African apartheid regime) has some connection to young GOPâ€™er Jack Abramoff, way back when. Comment by CitiDC&lt;/i&gt;

You mean like this? 

&lt;blockquote&gt;In the fall of 1977, Abramoff, a recent adherent to Orthodox Judaism and son of a wealthy businessman, arrived at Brandeis, with the campus roiling.

Students were agitating for divestment from South Africa, nuclear disarmament, and exit visas for Soviet Jews, turning the concrete plaza in front of the sprawling student center into a stage for left-wing speeches and protests. Feminist author Betty Friedan, antiwar activist Abbie Hoffman, and writer Norman Mailer were welcomed as heroes when they visited.

But Abramoff admired another figure -- Ronald Reagan -- an idealistic Californian like himself who was &#039;&#039;the most pro-Israel candidate in the presidential campaign,&quot; Abramoff told the student newspaper, The Justice, in September 1980, his senior year.

Enthralled, Abramoff made his mark on campus, organizing parties, softball games, and movie nights for the Brandeis College Republicans, which elected him chairman. Targeting freshmen, he turned the club from a laughingstock into a formidable movement of 150 young Reaganites by the fall of 1980, as Reagan headed toward his election win.

Selected the lead student organizer for Reagan in Massachusetts, Abramoff hung &#039;&#039;Reagan &#039;80&quot; banners off bridges over Route 128, helped register 3,000 students to vote, schmoozed men in South Boston social clubs, and accompanied Maureen Reagan, the candidate&#039;s daughter, on a trip to Brookline to persuade the Bostoner Rebbe, a national Hasidic leader, to endorse Reagan, a nod that was believed to be worth thousands of Orthodox Jewish votes

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/01/15/roots_of_a_lobbyist/
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Wouldnâ€™t it be nice to learn that St. Ronnie Reagan (who supported the South African apartheid regime) has some connection to young GOPâ€™er Jack Abramoff, way back when. Comment by CitiDC</i></p>
<p>You mean like this? </p>
<blockquote><p>In the fall of 1977, Abramoff, a recent adherent to Orthodox Judaism and son of a wealthy businessman, arrived at Brandeis, with the campus roiling.</p>
<p>Students were agitating for divestment from South Africa, nuclear disarmament, and exit visas for Soviet Jews, turning the concrete plaza in front of the sprawling student center into a stage for left-wing speeches and protests. Feminist author Betty Friedan, antiwar activist Abbie Hoffman, and writer Norman Mailer were welcomed as heroes when they visited.</p>
<p>But Abramoff admired another figure &#8212; Ronald Reagan &#8212; an idealistic Californian like himself who was &#8221;the most pro-Israel candidate in the presidential campaign,&#8221; Abramoff told the student newspaper, The Justice, in September 1980, his senior year.</p>
<p>Enthralled, Abramoff made his mark on campus, organizing parties, softball games, and movie nights for the Brandeis College Republicans, which elected him chairman. Targeting freshmen, he turned the club from a laughingstock into a formidable movement of 150 young Reaganites by the fall of 1980, as Reagan headed toward his election win.</p>
<p>Selected the lead student organizer for Reagan in Massachusetts, Abramoff hung &#8221;Reagan &#8216;80&#8243; banners off bridges over Route 128, helped register 3,000 students to vote, schmoozed men in South Boston social clubs, and accompanied Maureen Reagan, the candidate&#8217;s daughter, on a trip to Brookline to persuade the Bostoner Rebbe, a national Hasidic leader, to endorse Reagan, a nod that was believed to be worth thousands of Orthodox Jewish votes</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/01/15/roots_of_a_lobbyist/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/01/15/roots_of_a_lobbyist/</a>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grover at #62 has a winner -- Bush claimed he didn&#039;t even know the guy - then photos showed up everywhere - now he says he can&#039;t reveal anything because of sensitive security.
Yeah, right.
All visitors must be logged in to the White House and checked off when they leave - Abramoff spent a helluva lot of time there.  They can&#039;t deny it any more, so they just slam the door on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grover at #62 has a winner &#8212; Bush claimed he didn&#8217;t even know the guy &#8211; then photos showed up everywhere &#8211; now he says he can&#8217;t reveal anything because of sensitive security.<br />
Yeah, right.<br />
All visitors must be logged in to the White House and checked off when they leave &#8211; Abramoff spent a helluva lot of time there.  They can&#8217;t deny it any more, so they just slam the door on it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173395', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: GSD</title>
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		<dc:creator>GSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leave George W. Bush alone! His corruption is NO ONES business except him and Jesus.

-GSD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leave George W. Bush alone! His corruption is NO ONES business except him and Jesus.</p>
<p>-GSD<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173394', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: andhowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>andhowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember press reports from six years back about crewmembers of one of A&#039;s casino boats saying that Atta and the boys had partied on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember press reports from six years back about crewmembers of one of A&#8217;s casino boats saying that Atta and the boys had partied on it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173391', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: grover nerdkissed</title>
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		<dc:creator>grover nerdkissed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but Bush assured us that he &lt;em&gt;&quot;didnt even know the guy&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but Bush assured us that he <em>&#8220;didnt even know the guy&#8221;</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173370', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: CitiDC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CitiDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sensitive Information?&quot;

Like Abramoff was in bed with the South African apartheid government of the 1980&#039;s who paid for him to make a crappy film?

Like Abramoff was fundraising for night vision, sniper and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wrmea.com/archives/March_2006/0603028.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;other military equipment&lt;/a&gt; to send to Israel to arm the far right?

Both of those things would trigger &quot;red flags&quot; when Abramoff asked for admittance to the White House complex, yet both of those things are known and in the press.  

Wouldn&#039;t it be nice to learn that St. Ronnie Reagan (who supported the South African apartheid regime) has some connection to young GOP&#039;er Jack Abramoff, way back when.

It would to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sensitive Information?&#8221;</p>
<p>Like Abramoff was in bed with the South African apartheid government of the 1980&#8217;s who paid for him to make a crappy film?</p>
<p>Like Abramoff was fundraising for night vision, sniper and <a href="http://www.wrmea.com/archives/March_2006/0603028.html" rel="nofollow">other military equipment</a> to send to Israel to arm the far right?</p>
<p>Both of those things would trigger &#8220;red flags&#8221; when Abramoff asked for admittance to the White House complex, yet both of those things are known and in the press.  </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be nice to learn that St. Ronnie Reagan (who supported the South African apartheid regime) has some connection to young GOP&#8217;er Jack Abramoff, way back when.</p>
<p>It would to me.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173369', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: CitiDC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CitiDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 13:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not surprised.

First, Jack Abramoff probably had a permanent White House pass.  They have chosen not to disclose this.

Second, Glomar Explorer?  That was a Nixon-sanctioned secret operation that went to court during the Ford Administration.  Common link is Dick Cheney.  

This court precedent ridiculousness has Cheney written all over it -- who else could cite a Ford-era ruling?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not surprised.</p>
<p>First, Jack Abramoff probably had a permanent White House pass.  They have chosen not to disclose this.</p>
<p>Second, Glomar Explorer?  That was a Nixon-sanctioned secret operation that went to court during the Ford Administration.  Common link is Dick Cheney.  </p>
<p>This court precedent ridiculousness has Cheney written all over it &#8212; who else could cite a Ford-era ruling?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173368', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 10:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;â€œOn Friday, the Justice Department asked for a consolidation of the two &gt;cases

Given this fact, taken in conjunction with what other posters have said about Judicial Watch, sounds like the Judical watch suit is a sham case to try  and drag other cases down with it, via consolidation, or  to make pro-secrecy precedent with slopppy apellate work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;â€œOn Friday, the Justice Department asked for a consolidation of the two &gt;cases</p>
<p>Given this fact, taken in conjunction with what other posters have said about Judicial Watch, sounds like the Judical watch suit is a sham case to try  and drag other cases down with it, via consolidation, or  to make pro-secrecy precedent with slopppy apellate work<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173357', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregor Samsa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregor Samsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 09:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, well, well.... 

and think that we were treated to a deluge of deceptive statements by the White House that insisted Pres Bush didn&#039;t know Abramoff, had never met him and/or had contacts in any form, shape or way. 

Turns out, not only were they lying, there is &quot;highly sensitive documents&quot; with detail of Abramoff&#039;s visits to the White House. I wonder how much corruption is detailed in these documents that makes them &quot;highly sensitive&quot;.

/sarc on 

I thought Abramoff was just a lobbyist gone bad. Silly me. 

/sarc off</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, well, well&#8230;. </p>
<p>and think that we were treated to a deluge of deceptive statements by the White House that insisted Pres Bush didn&#8217;t know Abramoff, had never met him and/or had contacts in any form, shape or way. </p>
<p>Turns out, not only were they lying, there is &#8220;highly sensitive documents&#8221; with detail of Abramoff&#8217;s visits to the White House. I wonder how much corruption is detailed in these documents that makes them &#8220;highly sensitive&#8221;.</p>
<p>/sarc on </p>
<p>I thought Abramoff was just a lobbyist gone bad. Silly me. </p>
<p>/sarc off<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173355', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sabyen91</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/01/bush-administration-cites-secrecy-in-abramoff-lawsuit/comment-page-2/#comment-4173340</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabyen91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 07:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Joseph, Judicial Watch hasn&#039;t had a hard-on since Clinton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Joseph, Judicial Watch hasn&#8217;t had a hard-on since Clinton.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173340', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JosephW</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/01/bush-administration-cites-secrecy-in-abramoff-lawsuit/comment-page-2/#comment-4173328</link>
		<dc:creator>JosephW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 06:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would really be nice if Judicial Watch would mention their concerns about Bush&#039;s actions when they solicit funds from their &quot;conservative&quot; backers.  I work in the Post Office and see their little letters all the time and the ONLY name that gets any attention on the envelope from Judicial Watch seems to be &quot;Clinton&quot;.  I guess Judicial Watch doesn&#039;t want to alienate their (conservative) supporters by pointing out all those that Judicial Watch feels are not &quot;above the law&quot;.  (The group uses the phrase &quot;because no one is above the law&quot; on ALL their mailings, yet NOT ONCE have I seen any RepubliCON names on those envelopes.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would really be nice if Judicial Watch would mention their concerns about Bush&#8217;s actions when they solicit funds from their &#8220;conservative&#8221; backers.  I work in the Post Office and see their little letters all the time and the ONLY name that gets any attention on the envelope from Judicial Watch seems to be &#8220;Clinton&#8221;.  I guess Judicial Watch doesn&#8217;t want to alienate their (conservative) supporters by pointing out all those that Judicial Watch feels are not &#8220;above the law&#8221;.  (The group uses the phrase &#8220;because no one is above the law&#8221; on ALL their mailings, yet NOT ONCE have I seen any RepubliCON names on those envelopes.)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173328', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sabyen91</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/01/bush-administration-cites-secrecy-in-abramoff-lawsuit/comment-page-2/#comment-4173297</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabyen91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 05:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, there should NOT be any secrecy issues when it comes to dealing with a scumbag lobbyist.  If there IS a secrecy issue, you did something bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, there should NOT be any secrecy issues when it comes to dealing with a scumbag lobbyist.  If there IS a secrecy issue, you did something bad.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173297', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bluestocking</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/01/bush-administration-cites-secrecy-in-abramoff-lawsuit/comment-page-2/#comment-4173284</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluestocking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 05:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Sigh*...I think that it&#039;s become patently obvious by this time (and if it&#039;s not, it damn well ought to be) that whenever anyone in the Bush administration cites &quot;executive privilege&quot;, it&#039;s more often than not a euphemism for &quot;pleading the Fifth&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Sigh*&#8230;I think that it&#8217;s become patently obvious by this time (and if it&#8217;s not, it damn well ought to be) that whenever anyone in the Bush administration cites &#8220;executive privilege&#8221;, it&#8217;s more often than not a euphemism for &#8220;pleading the Fifth&#8221;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173284', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rockyroad</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockyroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 05:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tsar seems to be the Bush response to non-violent resistence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tsar seems to be the Bush response to non-violent resistence.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4173274', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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