Embattled Larry Craig Escapes To Bali To Stall Global Warming Treaty
Embattled Larry Craig Escapes To Bali To Stall Global Warming Treaty
Currently the subject of an ongoing ethics investigation, continued allegations of being gay, and stripped of his leadership positions on the Veterans’ Affairs and Appropriations Committees, Sen. Larry Craig (R-ID) is seeking temporary solace in the tropical resort island of Bali.
Craig is traveling to Bali this week for the U.N.-led climate change conference as the “Republican representative from the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee,” which is led by chief global warming denier Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK).
Prior to his travels, Craig attacked EPW Chairwoman Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) for creating “all-pain, no-gain” climate change legislation that would call for caps on greenhouse gas emissions. It “demonstrates nothing more than her intent to revert the United States to a developing country,” he asserted:
I’ve been to three of the last six “COP” conferences, so I’d expect the COP-13 crowd will be singing a familiar tune. Sen. Boxer will be welcomed as the liberator, and Al Gore will probably receive another award, but in the end, the only impact the conference will have will be the pollution and consumption they all create in traveling to Bali in the first place…we can avoid suffering for symbolism, and continue to keep things cool in our own backyard, even if there’s nothing but hot air in Bali.
Notably, Boxer is also the Chairwoman of the Senate Ethics Committee, which is investigating “allegations of sexual misconduct” by Craig and is currently “continu[ing] to conduct its preliminary inquiry into the matter.”
Craig has long history of climate change denial. Some highlights:
— Denied that global warming was at all responsible for the California wildfires. [LINK]
– In 1998, said Kyoto Protocol was “unnecessary response to an exaggerated threat the vice president himself [Al Gore] is caught up in making.” [LINK]
– Claims “scientists are not certain how much man contributes to climate variability compared to nature.” [LINK]
Isolated from his own party and now “a wisp of his former self in the Senate,” Craig will have to rely on the support of fringe, discredited global warming deniers.
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Sirens are going off at the Bali International Airport as we speak…
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:42 pmheh heh you said “stall”. A word he knows sooo well.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:42 pmUnless I’m misinterpreting something, Inhofe should be referred to only as “ranking member” of the committee — with Dem’s in control of the Senate, he doesn’t “lead” anything anymore (Thank goodness!)
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:42 pmI wonder if he’ll have some time for some of that hot man-on-boy action you can get in that part of the world…
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:44 pmJesus H. Christ! What does it say about the Republicans that they’re willing to let this pervert officially represent them at an important international conference? they really do live on their own little world, don’t they?
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:45 pmSomething is gonna be globally warming over there.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:48 pmIt demonstrates the commitment that the Republican Party has to safeguarding the world when they see something as important as this conference as a place to ‘hide’ an embarrasment rather than as an opportunity to actually engage themselves in something constructive.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:49 pmcraig: It “demonstrates nothing more than her intent to revert the United States to a developing country,â€
Classic right wing misinformation.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:49 pmYeah, you keep hanging in there, Craig. You’re a great recruiter and fundraiser for the Democratic party.
If only Foley had insisted upon hanging around.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:53 pmcraig: “I’ve been to three of the last six “COP†conferences”
I guess that helps explain why nothing is ever accomplished. Craig, you;re a lame duck anyway. Why don’t you just sit this one out and let the adults discuss the issue.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:53 pmGee, I wonder if Larry has a layover in Minneapolis on his way to Bali.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:55 pmCraig wants global warming. All that heat causing all the mens to sweat… taking off their shirts and wiping the perspiration from their manpits. oooo… Is it getting hot already?
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:55 pmThis is good……..LOL…..This is the best the reich can do…Send a lieing bathroom banger in for anything…..What’s next.?…Typical Monday or any day since the insane took over the white house…Blessings
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:57 pmRelating Global Warming:
Do people realize that there are no more governments? That Companies and Multinationals run all the important decisions for countries?
In a European meeting, Merkel suggested that there should be a move towards saving energy with energy-saving lightbulbs in Europe. She didn´t say that the greatest lightbulb company in Europe is located in Germany.
I wonder if it is just coincidence…
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:57 pmLawrence, if you can’t take the heat, stay out of the bathroom.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:58 pmI can see it now, Craig foot-tapping in Bali. Ewwww.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:58 pmLots of cute young Asian men… hmmm? I wonder why Tappy McWideStance would want to go there?
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:58 pmLarry’s accommodations perhaps:
http://www.balifriendlyhotels.com/
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:00 pm“Merkel suggested that there should be a move towards saving energy with energy-saving lightbulbs in Europe. She didn´t say that the greatest lightbulb company in Europe is located in Germany.”
Juan -
So we shouldn’t use energy-saving lightbulbs?? I mean …
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:01 pm“Do people realize that there are no more governments? That Companies and Multinationals run all the important decisions for countries?”
Comment by Juan C. — December 3, 2007 @ 12:57 pm
The general public doesn’t know it because the corporate news conveniently omits it while shoving Paris/Britney/K-Fed down our throats.
Corporations will be even happier when they can effectively shut down the internet. (Aside from the shopping websites, of course.)
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:03 pmWell, it’s no wonder they sent Senator Wide Stance!
He’s an EXPERT when it comes to denying reality.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:05 pm#20, bernard:
We should, but I think Juan’s point is that she didn’t do it out of reason, but out of economic motivation.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:05 pmDid he fly from Boise to Bali? That’s got to be at least 3 stopovers. No wonder Dirty Larry volunteered.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:05 pm“Denied that global warming was at all responsible for the California wildfires.â€
They weren’t. You can’t ascribe the cause of a single event to global warming. Come on people, all the scientists you pretend to listen to even say this. Comment by DreamCrusher — December 3, 2007 @ 1:00 pm
You can identify that global warming increases the conditions that make bad wildfires…
“In 1998, said Kyoto Protocoal was “unnecessary response to an exaggerated threat the vice president himself [Al Gore] is caught up in making.â€â€
The Earth is not as warm as it was in 1998. Odd that. Comment by DreamCrusher — December 3, 2007 @ 1:00 pm
Ah, another warming denier… You’re a fool.
“Claims “scientists are not certain how much man contributes to climate variability compared to nature.â€â€
Eh, the scientists say this themselves. There is no accurate way of measuring, testing, or observing this. Get a grip.
Comment by DreamCrusher — December 3, 2007 @ 1:00 pm
Actually there are ways of measuring this to some degree of accuracy - so you need to get a grip, you unscientific religious moron.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:06 pmThey weren’t. You can’t ascribe the cause of a single event to global warming.
Comment by DreamCrusher
Wrong as usual. Read carefully: Denied that global warming was at all responsible for the California wildfires.
Oh, just as you say that they were not a product of GW (you may have a scientist degree for that one) you can’t explicitly denied they were not AT ALL after all the evidence supporting Global Warming and its consequences.
BTW, he pleaded guilty. Suck it up.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:07 pmthe only impact the conference will have will be the pollution and consumption they all create in traveling to Bali in the first place…
…as the astute Senator gets ready to fire up a jet on the taxpayer’s expense to fly to Bali.
Larry, have you joined the ‘mile high’ club? I know, I know, it’s a very small bathroom, but word in Minneapolis is you’re just the right size…
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:08 pmSo we shouldn’t use energy-saving lightbulbs?? I mean …
Comment by bernard quatermass
Yes, built by companies who don’t decide the political scenarios of our countries.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:09 pm#19…You accuse the people here of trying to ascribe one thing (the CA fires) to global warming– yet in the very next point, you go on to say that 1998 was a hotter year than 2007, an argument that is invalidated if you accept the premise of your first argument. One thing (or one year) taken by itself can not be attributed to, or used to illustrate the reality or unreality of global warming. Your first argument had merit, but by making the second argument you show that you are disingenuous.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:11 pm“demonstrates nothing more than her intent to revert the United States to a developing country,â€
Too late. GWB has already accomplished this.
“all-pain, no-gain†climate change legislation that would call for caps on greenhouse gas emissions.”
Anybody who has been paying any attention at all to this knows the potential for the creation of new industries and new jobs in this country will outpace anything we’ve seen in the last 70 years.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:14 pmHmmm…Larry Craig…Larry Craig…oh yes, I remember - he’s that gay politician, right?
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:15 pm“The Earth is not as warm as it was in 1998. Odd that.”
Yeah! It is! Plus I have noticed that whenever the temperature changes it is ALWAYS a flat line going straight up or straight down! There are no bumps or divergences in it or anything! It’s weird! And the same MUST be true on a global scale! Those scientists can’t see it! But I can! Odd that, too! Also it’s interesting how I know that this statement (”The Earth is not as warm as it was in 1998″) is true for every point on the globe! I am omniscient!
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:15 pmCaption:
‘Give me 6, big guy’.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:16 pm“And no, I’m an atheist, but thanks for playing.”
You are welcome. Glad you didn’t try to deny “unscientific,” since you obviously have no clue re: scientific method or what constitutes evidence.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:18 pm1998 was warmer than 2006. Avoid that as you may with ad hominem attacks.
Wrong.
This arguement has already been de-bunked.
Read this if you actually want to know the facts”
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/4/175028/329
“1998 was the year of the strongest El Nino of the century. Choosing that year as a starting point is a classic cherry pick and demonstrates why it is necessary to remove chaotic year-to year-variability”
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:20 pmJust wondering how large the Balinese bathroom stalls are? With Larry Craig coming to town, they’d better widen them all for Mr. Large Stance? (I guess this means that his derriere is of the “XXL size”too?).
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:20 pmThis lying pervert needs to be run out of Bali first (watch out for your male children!!) and then run out of Washington with his tail between his legs .
“You can identify that global warming increases the conditions that make bad wildfires…â€
Has there been any provable rise in wild fires due to increasing temperatures in California? That were not caused by other causes, such as arson? Would have made a great point in Al Gore’s film - except he no such claim was in his film. Odd! Comment by DreamCrusher — December 3, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
It’s not just warmer temperatures, it’s changes in weather patterns including rainfall and wind that make for more dangerous conditions. Arson may start fires, but it’s not what brings about the brittle conditions that make it difficult to contain them. Actually Gore discussed all sorts of natural disasters that are/would likely get worse due to global warming. I suggest you rewatch the movie, or buy the book.
“Ah, another warming denier… You’re a fool.â€
1998 was warmer than 2006. Avoid that as you may with ad hominem attacks. Comment by DreamCrusher — December 3, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
But 2006 was the warmest year in US history, and one of the warmest ever. This is typical of a warming cycle. Not every year is warmer than the previous due to natural conditions such as el nino/el nina - but you didn’t know that did you junior?
“Actually there are ways of measuring this to some degree of accuracy - so you need to get a grip, you unscientific religious moron.â€
OK, so how is it measured, and what is the most recent measurement of this? And no, I’m an atheist, but thanks for playing.
Comment by DreamCrusher — December 3, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
Go read the IPCC, do you want me to do your homework for you? Of course you do!!!
You’re an atheist? Wow, yet you have the brain and lack of reasoning typical of a republican religious type. Sounds like you’re still stuck in your childhood programming when it comes to politics. You should apply the reasoning you used to overcome religiousness to that of your political affiliation and values. You might become just as embarrassed at your political ignorance as we are for you!
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:21 pmDigDug, republicans don’t do science, it’s why they still believe the earth is flat and 6000 years old ;)
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:23 pmRe: Global Warming
Of course, we know the facts and they are now irrefutable by anyone with more than a room temp IQ; however, the low-intelligence trolls and GOP operatives (synonyms?) will continue to spew their blather till the cows come home - so what else is new. Nothing they say means diddly-squat anymore.
The point is: why not conserve? Why not move toward the break of our addiction to Bush’s oil? Why not?? Because Bush and his fat cats are making megabucks from our addiction to oil - you know - the addiction which he has perpetuated for 7 years? Yes, that addiction.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:23 pmDon’t know where Creampuff is getting his info but:
“Climate Experts Worry as 2006 Is Hottest Year on Record in U.S.
Last year was the warmest in the continental United States in the past 112 years — capping a nine-year warming streak “unprecedented in the historical record” that was driven in part by the burning of fossil fuels, the government reported yesterday.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2007/ 01/ 09/ AR2007010901949.html
But don’t let facts get in the way of your beliefs Creampuff!
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:23 pmDigDug continues to dig himself in deeper and deeper - baseless assertions and bogus facts. Ignore all idiot trolls.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:24 pmMary: Thanks for the truth. This thread is being littered with dung right now. Paid operatives of the GOP at it again! Good thing we can spot them a mile away.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:25 pmOK, so how is it measured, and what is the most recent measurement of this?
Comment by DreamCrusher
Have you read any IPCC document? Please, do, before writing about Climate Change here.
To measure the CO2 concentration an ice sample is broken into small pieces in vacuum; the extracted air is measured with Infrared Laser Spectroscopy. For the CH4 and N2O measurements we are melting the ice samples in an evacuated glass container; CH4 and N2O is detected with a Gaschromatograph. For the isotopic analysis the ice is ground in vacuum with a milling cutter; analysis is performed with Mass Spectrometry.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:25 pmWhen has the truth stood in the way of Republican pathological lying? Answer: Never.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:25 pmNow, back to the topic of the thread. Sending the lying, Larry Craig to Bali sure sends a clear message to the rest of the world! And it’s not a good one!
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:26 pmEh, the scientists say this themselves. There is no accurate way of measuring, testing, or observing this. Get a grip.
Comment by DreamCrusher
So Crusher Loon, do you actually believe that we can dump tons of pollutants into our atmosphere every year and it won’t have a negative affect on our mother earth? If you think that, you are an even bigger fool than we all know you are.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:27 pmAs long as Bushitco’s can twist the science and truth, the longer they stash away their megabucks taken from the backs of americans. Stalling tactics just add to their offshore bank accounts. Maybe someone needs to look into Larry Craig’s financial holdings since he’s so hell bent on stalling the conference?? I’d say he’s looking more perverse as the days go by. What’s next? More young boys whistleblowing?
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:28 pmMary: Craig’s mere presence there with his load of perverted baggage is an embarassment to this country. But what else is new - that’s all that’s left to the GOP at this point - pathological liars, perverts, and criminals.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:29 pmFrom research used in the IPCC fourth assessment. One of the research pieces behind this is titled “Global warming : Impacts : Forests” and it was done by the EPA ;)
Forest fires
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:29 pmRising global temperature might cause forest fires to occur on larger scale, and more regularly. This releases more stored carbon into the atmosphere than the carbon cycle can naturally re-absorb, as well as reducing the overall forest area on the planet, creating a positive feedback loop. Part of that feedback loop is more rapid growth of replacement forests and a northward migration of forests as northern latitudes become more suitable climates for sustaining forests. There is a question of whether the burning of renewable fuels such as forests should be counted as contributing to global warming.
I’m ashamed to admit that Larry Craig is an american at this point.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:29 pmDigDug, republicans don’t do science, it’s why they still believe the earth is flat and 6000 years old ;)
Comment by republicans hate facts
I know. I posted the link knowing full well that Dreamcrusher won’t read it. But maybe other people who might have been confused or mis-lead by his dis-honest arguement will.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:29 pmComment by PeterB: Unless I’m misinterpreting something, Inhofe should be referred to only as “ranking member†of the committee — with Dem’s in control of the Senate, he doesn’t “lead†anything anymore (Thank goodness!)
Nope, you’ve got it right, though Inhofe’s behavior frequently causes confusion as to his position on the committee. Twice, I think, he has attempted to invade Senator Boxer’s turf, making up committee “rules” on the fly and trying to impose them on witnesses. I think Al Gore was one of them. fortunately, boxer stepped on him very hard! :-)
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:30 pmRHF:
It’s a well known fact that Bush has packed the EPA with tree huggers. You can’t trust a word they say.
;-)
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:31 pmRepublitards: Burn and pillage the planet just as long as they fatten their coffers along with their polluting corporate nymphos. It’s clear that they have no concern for their offspring (eating their own) and future generations. At this point these 24%-ers are sick misanthropes and criminals who continue to expand their criminal minds as they justify these heinous actions.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:32 pm#54 Nice try - thanks for playing but you’re dead wrong.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:33 pmIn case you folks didn’t get the memo, some of the temperature data had to be adjusted this year due to a Y2K-error in one of the algorithms used to deduce the mean temperatures. The updated data is here:
1998 .57
1999 .33
2000 .33
2001 .48
2002 .56
2003 .55
2004 .49
2005 .62
2006 .54
Comment by DreamCrusher — December 3, 2007 @ 1:31 pm
In case you hadn’t noticed, 1998 was revised down more than 2006 ;)
You’re really ‘tarded, aren’t you son?
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:33 pmA true environmentalist would have nothing to do with the likes of this administration. Anyone calling himself a scientist or environmentalist in Bush’s cadre of criminals is nothing more than a lying sycophant fraud.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:33 pmBoreas: I’ve heard rumor that Inhofe likes little boys and bathroom trysts, too.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:35 pm“#54 Nice try - thanks for playing but you’re dead wrong.”
Comment by Veritas — December 3, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
Hey, I’m on your side. That’s what the winky face is for!
*grin*
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:35 pmLooks like a pink spotlight is being shined on Lotts resignation. He’s been linked to a male escort, who is tight lipped but acknowledged a major story about to be publilshed linking him to Trent. Might as well move the GOP convention to Fire Island.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:35 pmSo Loon Crusher, answer my question in #46 if you dare. I’m betting you won’t answer because there is not an RNC talking point that addresses this question.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:37 pm#63 bilbo:
There actually *is* an RNC talking point on this, but I don’t want to give it away to DreamCrusher.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:38 pmperhaps he went to Bali to burnish his “straight” creds? if old bra ads are to be believed, the women go topless there…
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:42 pmMakes you all look so ignorant and intolerant.
Comment by DreamCrusher — December 3, 2007 @ 1:35 pm
Only to a know-nothing liar like you. it’s always a question whether you’ll haul your facts or Craig’s dick out of your ass.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:52 pmSuch a shame. Makes you all look so ignorant and intolerant.
Comment by DreamCrusher
Did you read my link? Here it is again:
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/4/175028/329
It’s just the facts. Incase you’re interested.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:54 pmNo, but last I checked CO2 was not a “pollutantâ€. All the other things we emit are not good for our environment, our air, and our well-being. CO2, I’m sure you know, is what we exhale, and what plants use to grow. I’m much more concerned with all the nasty chemicals we emit than I am CO2, which you also should be. CO2 isn’t harmful.
Comment by DreamCrusher — December 3, 2007 @ 1:35 pm
Jeebus.
Start here.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:55 pmIn case you folks didn’t get the memo, some of the temperature data had to be adjusted this year due to a Y2K-error in one of the algorithms used to deduce the mean temperatures. The updated data is here:
Comment by DreamCrusher — December 3, 2007 @ 1:31 pm
You can keep saying that the world is flat as many times as you want - it doesn’t make it true.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:57 pmYou can keep saying that the world is flat as many times as you want - it doesn’t make it true.
Comment by toasterhead — December 3, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
But you can’t prove it to the rightard simpletons, so they will go with the flat-earthers. it’s easier than thinking.
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:00 pmIt’s just the facts. Incase you’re interested.
Comment by DigDug — December 3, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
He’s not. The facts have a liberal bias.
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:00 pmthat’s all that’s left to the GOP at this point - pathological liars, perverts, and criminals.
Comment by Veritas — December 3, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
Yup! And why do you suppose so many of them are closeted-gays? That can’t be healthy to be in such denial! Maybe that’s why they can be so damn mean!
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:02 pmAll this is why I never get into it with people like DreamCrusher. Complete waste of time.
Oh yeah, and CO2 isn’t harmful because it’s natural. Much like arsenic isn’t harmful, because it’s natural.
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:04 pmBali is a great country for “hooking up” with young, male escorts.
Hell, Craig was BEGGING to go…
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:09 pmCO2 isn’t harmful.
Comment by DreamCrusher — December 3, 2007 @ 1:35 pm
You know what else isn’t harmful? H2O. It’s completely natural. 70% of the globe is H2O, and 70% of you is H2O.
So I suppose you wouldn’t mind at all being strapped to a board and having your lungs filled with it, right? I mean, if it’s so natural.
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:11 pmMuch like arsenic isn’t harmful, because it’s natural.
Comment by Frosty Cupcake
Or, that other extremely “safe” substance known as water.
Hey DC, you should try drinking a whole gallon in less than 20 min. and see if you SURVIVE.
Please???
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:11 pmWoman dies after water-drinking contest
Water intoxication eyed in ‘Hold Your Wee for a Wii’ contest death
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16614865/
Neocon’s everywhere are scratching their collective heads…
Hey DC, “got straw?”
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:15 pmI just found this tidbit:
What is the difference between Republicans and Democrats?
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:16 pm*** Republicans Do It In The Closet ***
Bush doesn’t have a cabinet, he has a closet.
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:29 pm“I’m ashamed to admit that Larry Craig is an american at this point.
Comment by Veritas”
Hey, he’s not a member of My America. He’s a republican. he hates our freedoms. he hates truth and justice. he likes random sex in public restrooms. he is a republican.
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:32 pmYou can’t ascribe the cause of a single event to global warming.
Comment by DreamCrusher
Yes I can. Global warming is directly responsible for one of the biggest right-wing propaganda misinformation denial campaigns in history.
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:37 pmBetter somebody call ahead and have the airport bathrooms closed.
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:41 pmYou know what else isn’t harmful? H2O. It’s completely natural. 70% of the globe is H2O, and 70% of you is H2O.
So I suppose you wouldn’t mind at all being strapped to a board and having your lungs filled with it, right? I mean, if it’s so natural.
Comment by toasterhead
Toaster…you have a gift.
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:46 pmSatyam quoted Larry Craig as having:
— Denied that global warming was at all responsible for the California wildfires. [LINK]
– Claims “scientists are not certain how much man contributes to climate variability compared to nature.†[LINK]
Satyam, I don’t want to see a link to Craig’s comments, I want to see a link to some credible scientific source that global warming was responsible for the California wildfires, at least inpart, and I also want to see a link to a credible scientific source that demonstrates concensus in the scientific community about the amount that man contributes to climate variability compared to nature.
While Craig’s other statements, particularly concerning KYoto are, in my opinion, batshit crazy, the above two statements confirm my understanding of the science, and I am in no way a global warming denier: (1) scientists cannot say with certainty that global warming was the cause of any particular climate event, and (2) there are natural factors to climate change and scientists cannot say with certainty what percent is natural and what percent is the human contribution.
Please challenge me or correct your post.
December 3rd, 2007 at 3:17 pmHow did he get a visa? I bet he can’t even go to Canada anymore with his criminal record.
December 3rd, 2007 at 3:23 pmHey Eskwaya, if you think someone is swinging a bat at your head, do you wait for a scientist to confirm it with certainty before you get out of the way?
December 3rd, 2007 at 3:27 pmHey Frantaylor, let’s not get into your id issues on this discussion board. If you’d like to make an appointment, call my office.
Satyam claims that Craig’s statements are a denial of the science. I simply asked for a source on the science. And the two statements I challenge Satyam on are narrow issues that even if Satyam were to concede them, would not affect the broader global warming concensus, which I do not dispute.
December 3rd, 2007 at 3:43 pmAnd frantaylor, your logic sounds eerily like, “we cannot wait for the final proof–the smoking gun–that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.” I think you should sit down with a professional and try to resolve the inner conflict.
December 3rd, 2007 at 3:47 pmPersonally, I think Larry Craig must not have got his complimentary toaster when he was recruited into the gay community… That is why he so bitter and resentful.
December 3rd, 2007 at 4:27 pmIs Larry taking his “Wife” and “Kids” with him on this trip?
December 3rd, 2007 at 4:29 pmIt’s more than that. It’s a classic Republican tactic to accuse Democrats of something that they, the Republicans, are actually doing. It’s been a very successful tactic, too.
December 3rd, 2007 at 5:32 pmhow low can they go? Do the trolls live in la la land or what? Who cares if he’s gay or not? The GOP. They go round and round with a circle of lies….then the REAL winners speak out….we have RUSH and Annhole and the jerk off (in more ways than one) Billy O spining their bull to the brainwashed no minds.
December 3rd, 2007 at 6:14 pmAt least the public restrooms in Idaho are safe — for a while. ;)
December 3rd, 2007 at 6:21 pm“there’s nothing but hot air in Bali.” That and little boys for $20/hour.
December 3rd, 2007 at 6:37 pmComment by Veritas: “Boreas: I’ve heard rumor that Inhofe likes little boys and bathroom trysts, too.”
And, of course, there’s the Trent Lott story too. Nothing about these creeps would surprise me any more.
December 3rd, 2007 at 7:24 pmGonna be some sore butts in Bali big time.
They should have a spy cam on Larry, it would make for some interesting TV. Could see it now, Reality TV with Tappy McWidestance and the Boys of Bali, it’s Tappy gone wild.
Bush/Cheney
Hague Trials ‘09
Buck Fush
December 3rd, 2007 at 7:47 pmGet a grip.
Comment by DreamCrusher — December 3, 2007 @ 1:00 pm
I assume you live on the same planet as the rest of us. So here’s a question for you: Whether or not you believe in global warming, what harm is there if the populace of this planet takes steps to ensure the health of this planet?
December 3rd, 2007 at 8:05 pmAnyone remember that scene from “Apollo 13″ where they’re trying to figure out how to build CO2 filters before the CO2 gets so high it kills the crew?
December 3rd, 2007 at 8:34 pmSend his sorry ass to secondary when he re- enters the U.S.- and check out his hard drive!
December 3rd, 2007 at 11:19 pmoh i get it. “Stall” as in bathroom stall.
Heres the latest on gay
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UbxR4gF8KIU
December 4th, 2007 at 11:38 amHiB,
What I have said (quite accurately) is that WP is not a prohibited chemical weapon under international law, including the Chemical Weapons Convention.
Comment by Exley — December 4, 2007 @ 1:09 pm
I’m sure those that died from it appreciate your classification…
December 4th, 2007 at 1:11 pm