Comments on: Bolton Calls For Congressional Witch-Hunt Into Anti-Bush ‘People In The Intelligence Community’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:43:57 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: ctcadguy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4181841 ctcadguy Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:31:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4181841 911 was an inside job! Send the criminals to the Hague! 911 was an inside job!

Send the criminals to the Hague!

]]> By: chabuka http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4179860 chabuka Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:35:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4179860 Bolton, Podhoretz, Bush/Cheney, Rice and the rest of the criminally insane, armed and dangerous neo-cons inside the White House are the ones who should be investigated.... Bolton, Podhoretz, Bush/Cheney, Rice and the rest of the criminally insane, armed and dangerous neo-cons inside the White House are the ones who should be investigated….

]]> By: mettycat http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4179623 mettycat Thu, 06 Dec 2007 17:27:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4179623 The Neocons like Bolton have just been kicked in the groin. I have yet to hear anyone claim that the NIE is false. The only people doing that are the Neocons like Bolton. No foreign intelligence agency has come forward to claim its false nor have any military personnel. They would know about Iran's operations because they would be the collecting the data. Bolton and the rest had better face the facts that no one except for a few die hard individuals believe them anymore. The Neocons like Bolton have just been kicked in the groin. I have yet to hear anyone claim that the NIE is false. The only people doing that are the Neocons like Bolton. No foreign intelligence agency has come forward to claim its false nor have any military personnel. They would know about Iran’s operations because they would be the collecting the data. Bolton and the rest had better face the facts that no one except for a few die hard individuals believe them anymore.

]]> By: tombaker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4178923 tombaker Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:31:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4178923 Gaffney was just on the Tweety Show having Tweety laugh in his face for daring attempt to pin this up ala Bolton - it was hi-larious, and Gaffney was visibly pained with the beating. Crazy Righty Pat Buchanan piled on, and gnawed on dubbie's empty head like a houd worries a well-worn soupbone, to boot. Now Tweety's on to how the Bible-slinging goper candidates are all going to beat each other over the head with a crucifix until there's one man standing - yeeeeeeeeee-haaaaaaaaaaaa mo fo's!!!!!!! Gaffney was just on the Tweety Show having Tweety laugh in his face for daring attempt to pin this up ala Bolton – it was hi-larious, and Gaffney was visibly pained with the beating.

Crazy Righty Pat Buchanan piled on, and gnawed on dubbie’s empty head like a houd worries a well-worn soupbone, to boot.

Now Tweety’s on to how the Bible-slinging goper candidates are all going to beat each other over the head with a crucifix until there’s one man standing – yeeeeeeeeee-haaaaaaaaaaaa mo fo’s!!!!!!!

]]> By: Diana Moneymaker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4178597 Diana Moneymaker Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:56:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4178597 God bless america and bolton's mustache. God bless america and bolton’s mustache.

]]> By: PaulD http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4178499 PaulD Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:17:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4178499 VIDEO Chris matthews asks a neo-con "is Iran a strategic threat"? and DEMANDS AN ANSWER http://test.redlasso.com/service/svc/clip/playClip?fid=9fcb21ca-effa-40b8-aa36-8856d7b71ea4 VIDEO

Chris matthews asks a neo-con “is Iran a strategic threat”? and DEMANDS AN ANSWER

http://test.redlasso.com/service/svc/clip/playClip?fid=9fcb21ca-effa-40b8-aa36-8856d7b71ea4

]]> By: John Hair http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4178204 John Hair Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:36:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4178204 John Bolton claims "Mistake!" I can tell you the mistake that was really made, when his parents didn't eat the litter that he was wallowering around in. jwh John Bolton claims “Mistake!” I can tell you the mistake that was really made, when his parents didn’t eat the litter that he was wallowering around in. jwh

]]> By: Darryl Mason http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4177943 Darryl Mason Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:08:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4177943 John Bolton was tossed overboard by the US State Department during an interview on Australian TV tonight. US Undersecretary of State, Nicholas Burns, said Bolton was wrong on his claims that Iran has nuclear weapons and that the US is planning to strike Iran. <a href="http://yournewreality.blogspot.com/2007/12/bushco.html" rel="nofollow"> "He does not represent the US government...We very much disagree with him."</a> John Bolton was tossed overboard by the US State Department during an interview on Australian TV tonight.

US Undersecretary of State, Nicholas Burns, said Bolton was wrong on his claims that Iran has nuclear weapons and that the US is planning to strike Iran.

“He does not represent the US government…We very much disagree with him.”

]]> By: daytripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4177938 daytripper Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:07:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4177938 <i># I still can’t connect the dots. The intelligence community is seen as rather conservative and has, as its champion, Bush Sr. I’ve seen a lot of evidence of Shrub politicizing presidential appointments. So how did the coverts become the enemy of Shrub ?</i> maple, probably the most untalked about "big" news in the US today is the ongoing and escalating war in the military and intelligence communities. infact it is highly likely that the only thing preventing these vulcans from turning it all into party apparatus is rational (true patriot) heads in both communities. what the media will bearly allude to is that neither community was "onboard" for war in iraq, and is likely no where close to being convinced in irans case. we know this because rumsfeld had to create his own intel group (OSP), due to the inconvenience of the actual intelligence, as compiled by professionals.. This gets to the very heart of the far-right of the GOP and the neoconservative view. its not big government they detest, its elected, representative and scrutinised government they detest. that is why, everytime they are in power we always see paralell institutions spring up, which have no oversight or congresssional control. think plumbers, iran contra etc. And it is quite clear what happens to those who disagree. Ask the stack of professional soldiers who retired early, career intel staff who quit and outed agents. Americans should be very concerned for the safety of their democratic institutions. #

I still can’t connect the dots. The intelligence community is seen as rather conservative and has, as its champion, Bush Sr. I’ve seen a lot of evidence of Shrub politicizing presidential appointments.

So how did the coverts become the enemy of Shrub ?

maple, probably the most untalked about “big” news in the US today is the ongoing and escalating war in the military and intelligence communities. infact it is highly likely that the only thing preventing these vulcans from turning it all into party apparatus is rational (true patriot) heads in both communities.
what the media will bearly allude to is that neither community was “onboard” for war in iraq, and is likely no where close to being convinced in irans case. we know this because rumsfeld had to create his own intel group (OSP), due to the inconvenience of the actual intelligence, as compiled by professionals..

This gets to the very heart of the far-right of the GOP and the neoconservative view. its not big government they detest, its elected, representative and scrutinised government they detest. that is why, everytime they are in power we always see paralell institutions spring up, which have no oversight or congresssional control. think plumbers, iran contra etc. And it is quite clear what happens to those who disagree. Ask the stack of professional soldiers who retired early, career intel staff who quit and outed agents.

Americans should be very concerned for the safety of their democratic institutions.

]]> By: daytripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4177892 daytripper Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:40:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4177892 <i>Digby parses out the perpetually wrong neocon worldview: “The real question is why anyone ever takes them seriously about anything.”</i> yet most people give them the benefit of the doubt on 9/11. WTF !!!! Digby parses out the perpetually wrong neocon worldview: “The real question is why anyone ever takes them seriously about anything.”

yet most people give them the benefit of the doubt on 9/11.

WTF !!!!

]]> By: tombaker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4177878 tombaker Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:31:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4177878 the trolls just keep sounding more insane by the day - God! this is entertaining. the trolls just keep sounding more insane by the day – God! this is entertaining.

]]> By: slappy magoo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4177750 slappy magoo Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:29:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4177750 Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 4, 2007 @ 9:46 pm You'd almost have a point, IF Iran's backing off of their nuclear program had anything to do with Bush's success as a leader AND if Democratic "leaders" actually did admit to the surge working, and were able to back up those claims with evidence. Since they don't and you don't, you just kind of come across as ignorant and wrong. Sorry. Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 4, 2007 @ 9:46 pm

You’d almost have a point, IF Iran’s backing off of their nuclear program had anything to do with Bush’s success as a leader AND if Democratic “leaders” actually did admit to the surge working, and were able to back up those claims with evidence. Since they don’t and you don’t, you just kind of come across as ignorant and wrong. Sorry.

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4177707 Leftside Annie Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:00:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4177707 Two words: BATSHIT CRAZY. Two words: BATSHIT CRAZY.

]]> By: Uncle Ho http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4177600 Uncle Ho Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:33:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4177600 man, these neoNazis are just plain unf**kingbelievable. The tribunals at Nuremberg did not hang enough of these fascist pigs. man, these neoNazis are just plain unf**kingbelievable. The tribunals at Nuremberg did not hang enough of these fascist pigs.

]]> By: theswan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4177577 theswan Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:19:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4177577 Don't forget John, your supposed to be backing the annapolis peace process, not starting the next war. Don’t forget John, your supposed to be backing the annapolis peace process, not starting the next war.

]]> By: bernard quatermass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4177536 bernard quatermass Wed, 05 Dec 2007 13:36:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4177536 "To give weight to a single intelligence estimate would be a mistake” Unless it is the one I happen to like. “To give weight to a single intelligence estimate would be a mistake”

Unless it is the one I happen to like.

]]> By: Menehune http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4177530 Menehune Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:44:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4177530 goo goo ga joob goo goo ga joob

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4177523 Doc Rock Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:11:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4177523 Anti-Bush people in the intelligence field? Maybe they know something we don't know! Anti-Bush people in the intelligence field? Maybe they know something we don’t know!

]]> By: rockyroad http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4177504 rockyroad Wed, 05 Dec 2007 09:13:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4177504 That horribly disjointed statement is the result of a collaboration of liberals. We should probably not attempt to collaborate again. Sort of like the dems. Each point has merit on its own, but wow, bring us all together, what a mess. You get the point. That horribly disjointed statement is the result of a collaboration of liberals. We should probably not attempt to collaborate again. Sort of like the dems.

Each point has merit on its own, but wow, bring us all together, what a mess. You get the point.

]]> By: rockyroad http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/comment-page-3/#comment-4177502 rockyroad Wed, 05 Dec 2007 09:07:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bolton-nie-iran/#comment-4177502 If you're told in 2001 or 2006 that a threat either exists or does not exist, and that you won't know about it until it either demolises a building in Septemper 2001 or is published in by the Intelligence Assessment in 2007, and choose to ignore the intelligence, you're either a Bush wonk that may receive the medal of honor, but who should be punished as a co-conspirator, or Bush himself. Tried to allude . . . how clear must this be, must a hijacked plane be driven into your home before you will see?, or are you just a stupid wonk or bind man in denial who fails to see . . . as the adm continues to lie to us. ["you" is simply used for convenience, doesn't truly mean, "you" - seems like a simple emough concept, but BART freaks over these convenient oversimplifications - misses the point entirely] If you’re told in 2001 or 2006 that a threat either exists or does not exist, and that you won’t know about it until it either demolises a building in Septemper 2001 or is published in by the Intelligence Assessment in 2007, and choose to ignore the intelligence, you’re either a Bush wonk that may receive the medal of honor, but who should be punished as a co-conspirator, or Bush himself.

Tried to allude . . . how clear must this be, must a hijacked plane be driven into your home before you will see?, or are you just a stupid wonk or bind man in denial who fails to see . . . as the adm continues to lie to us.

["you" is simply used for convenience, doesn't truly mean, "you" - seems like a simple emough concept, but BART freaks over these convenient oversimplifications - misses the point entirely]

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