Comments on: Does the U.S. tolerate anti-Muslim speech? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:20:09 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: SavageForPresident2008 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4230726 SavageForPresident2008 Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:01:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4230726 I know this is an old post...but its new to me. Let me begin propper: I am what you all would consider a "right-wing nut job". I love my God, my guns and my country! I believe all men are created equal and no one has the right to take away my freedom to life, freedom to God, and freedom of Speech. Dr. Savage feels the same way as I do. Savage's comments about not putting his wife in a hijab and what not were at the end of a very long segment about what people like the "Hitler" of our times, Ahmendeijad, want to do with the US. His rants are about the extremes in the muslim religion. I know because I listen to and support his radio program. Dr. Savage is one of the few, even in the "Right" wing media who has the nerve to say much anything against Islam or any "Left" wing agendas. O'Reilly and Rush are nothing more than puppets to the Bush Administration. Don't confuse them with conservatives like myself and Savage. In closing you don't have to agree with what Savage says, just don't listen and respect his right to say it. I don't agree with about 99.9% of what is posted above, but I'd fight tooth and nail for any one of you to say it and post it. That is what TRUE freedom of speech is. If any of you have the gall to have a true debate on the issue please feel free to send me an email... jason_haildamage@yahoo.com. Subject: Savage Speech. I know this is an old post…but its new to me. Let me begin propper:

I am what you all would consider a “right-wing nut job”. I love my God, my guns and my country! I believe all men are created equal and no one has the right to take away my freedom to life, freedom to God, and freedom of Speech. Dr. Savage feels the same way as I do. Savage’s comments about not putting his wife in a hijab and what not were at the end of a very long segment about what people like the “Hitler” of our times, Ahmendeijad, want to do with the US. His rants are about the extremes in the muslim religion. I know because I listen to and support his radio program. Dr. Savage is one of the few, even in the “Right” wing media who has the nerve to say much anything against Islam or any “Left” wing agendas. O’Reilly and Rush are nothing more than puppets to the Bush Administration. Don’t confuse them with conservatives like myself and Savage. In closing you don’t have to agree with what Savage says, just don’t listen and respect his right to say it. I don’t agree with about 99.9% of what is posted above, but I’d fight tooth and nail for any one of you to say it and post it. That is what TRUE freedom of speech is. If any of you have the gall to have a true debate on the issue please feel free to send me an email… jason_haildamage@yahoo.com. Subject: Savage Speech.

]]> By: dsmith http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4177524 dsmith Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:24:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4177524 Let a commentator say on air that Judism is a hate religion and that the Jews can shove it up their ass and see how quickly Abe Foxman and his jackboots over at the anti-defamation league pounce into action. Let a commentator say on air that Judism is a hate religion and that the Jews can shove it up their ass and see how quickly Abe Foxman and his jackboots over at the anti-defamation league pounce into action.

]]> By: Bluestocking http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4177481 Bluestocking Wed, 05 Dec 2007 07:13:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4177481 missmolly Or as Voltaire put it, “I disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” That said, just because someone has the right to say something, doesn’t mean we don’t have the right to think less of them for saying it or supporting it. -- Bruce Gorton *********************************** If I may add another wise epigram to yours..."the right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously" (Adlai Stevenson) missmolly

Or as Voltaire put it,

“I disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

That said, just because someone has the right to say something, doesn’t mean we don’t have the right to think less of them for saying it or supporting it. — Bruce Gorton

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If I may add another wise epigram to yours…”the right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously” (Adlai Stevenson)

]]> By: Bluestocking http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4177467 Bluestocking Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:48:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4177467 I’m not gonna put my wife in a hijab. And I’m not gonna put my daughter in a burqa. And I’m not gettin on my all-fours and braying to Mecca. And you could drop dead if you don’t like it. You can shove it up your pipe. ********************************************** Conversely, if Savage doesn't like the fact that I'm not gonna accept the idea that a man is better equipped than I am to decide what is best for me simply by virtue of his male genitalia even though some conservative Christians think I should...<em>he</em> can shove <em>that</em> up <em>his</em> pipe. I’m not gonna put my wife in a hijab. And I’m not gonna put my daughter in a burqa. And I’m not gettin on my all-fours and braying to Mecca. And you could drop dead if you don’t like it. You can shove it up your pipe.

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Conversely, if Savage doesn’t like the fact that I’m not gonna accept the idea that a man is better equipped than I am to decide what is best for me simply by virtue of his male genitalia even though some conservative Christians think I should…he can shove that up his pipe.

]]> By: isiah634 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4177222 isiah634 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:17:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4177222 Love Michael Savage or not this issue is about free speech. It will affect us all. People just can’t go around copying what we say and using it out of context. Hope Savage wins and wins big! Further more I think I shall contribute to his defense fund. I smell a rat here. I think its because of greedy Arabs that have nothing to do with religion. I don’t believe CAIR is concerned with religion but with the rich United Arab Emirates and its money values. Love Michael Savage or not this issue is about free speech. It will affect us all. People just can’t go around copying what we say and using it out of context. Hope Savage wins and wins big! Further more I think I shall contribute to his defense fund.

I smell a rat here. I think its because of greedy Arabs that have nothing to do with religion. I don’t believe CAIR is concerned with religion but with the rich United Arab Emirates and its money values.

]]> By: Roket http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4177201 Roket Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:58:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4177201 Helllloooo. Savage sues CAIR and the best Megyn Kelly can come up with is CAIR sues just about anyone?? Wow. That was a fine ‘so are you but what am I’ moment. Savage’s suit has nothing to do with his so called character. He’s suing for copyright infringement. Big difference. These people must spend a fortune on pearl necklaces. Helllloooo. Savage sues CAIR and the best Megyn Kelly can come up with is CAIR sues just about anyone?? Wow. That was a fine ‘so are you but what am I’ moment. Savage’s suit has nothing to do with his so called character. He’s suing for copyright infringement. Big difference. These people must spend a fortune on pearl necklaces.

]]> By: Miles Tougeaux http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4176956 Miles Tougeaux Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:02:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4176956 Agreed. Although the Quran was written several hundred years after the NT and nearly 1000 after much of the OT (and all suffering through subjective editing) they are both bizzarre indeed. But the narrative in the Quran runs a tad angrier. Agreed. Although the Quran was written several hundred years after the NT and nearly 1000 after much of the OT (and all suffering through subjective editing) they are both bizzarre indeed. But the narrative in the Quran runs a tad angrier.

]]> By: tombaker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4176921 tombaker Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:41:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4176921 Mssr. Tougeaux, Have you sent your menstruating wife outside the walls of the gated community, as the Bible commands? Stone any heretics lately?? Face it - the Bible and the Koran were written by the same kinds of people in the same kind of place at the same kind of time for the same kinds of reasons and are full of the same kind of hateful, superstitious gobbledy-gook. No one in their right mind should rely on either for anything but entertainment. Mssr. Tougeaux,

Have you sent your menstruating wife outside the walls of the gated community, as the Bible commands?

Stone any heretics lately??

Face it – the Bible and the Koran were written by the same kinds of people in the same kind of place at the same kind of time for the same kinds of reasons and are full of the same kind of hateful, superstitious gobbledy-gook. No one in their right mind should rely on either for anything but entertainment.

]]> By: tombaker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4176907 tombaker Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:37:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4176907 57 - you mean like the Old Testament? 57 – you mean like the Old Testament?

]]> By: andy phx http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4176705 andy phx Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:31:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4176705 Why is anyone surprised? He says lots of hateful and offensive things. I read his comments with a yawn. I personally have no love for any organized religion but wouldn't put it the way he did. Islam in this country does everything it can to lay low. I wish the elitist born-agains would do the same. I wish they would all stay out of our government and our personal lives. Why is anyone surprised? He says lots of hateful and offensive things. I read his comments with a yawn. I personally have no love for any organized religion but wouldn’t put it the way he did. Islam in this country does everything it can to lay low. I wish the elitist born-agains would do the same. I wish they would all stay out of our government and our personal lives.

]]> By: Miles Tougeaux http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4176675 Miles Tougeaux Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:25:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4176675 No, not a theologian but I have read it. Highly recommend it. Heres an excellent summary of the intolerance citings for those not wishing to wander through the mindset of the Dark Ages themselves: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/int/long.html No, not a theologian but I have read it. Highly recommend it.

Heres an excellent summary of the intolerance citings for those not wishing to wander through the mindset of the Dark Ages themselves:

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/int/long.html

]]> By: DieNowForPeace http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4176405 DieNowForPeace Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:52:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4176405 <em>its a book about intolerance and doom. Comment by Miles Tougeaux</em> Really? You're a theologian, and you've read it fron to back? Cool. Please cite quotes to back-up this incredulous claim of yours. its a book about intolerance and doom.

Comment by Miles Tougeaux

Really? You’re a theologian, and you’ve read it fron to back?

Cool. Please cite quotes to back-up this incredulous claim of yours.

]]> By: Miles Tougeaux http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4176330 Miles Tougeaux Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:20:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4176330 Savage is an idiot. The Quran is not a book about hate, its a book about intolerance and doom. Savage is an idiot. The Quran is not a book about hate, its a book about intolerance and doom.

]]> By: tombaker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4176309 tombaker Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:10:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4176309 It's not just tolerated, it's encouraged, and that's pathetic. It’s not just tolerated, it’s encouraged, and that’s pathetic.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4176208 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:31:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4176208 Why is the Savage Weiner such a mean-spirited, self-loathing man? I don't know, but here's the text of an undated postcard he sent to his friend, Allen Ginsberg: "Dear Allen Ginsberg, Watched a tourist from New Zealand taking pictures of Fijian people in the marketplace thought of inserting my cameras lens in your A hole to photograph the walls of your rectum. I really do apologize But the thought did occur. Michael Weiner” Why is the Savage Weiner such a mean-spirited, self-loathing man? I don’t know, but here’s the text of an undated postcard he sent to his friend, Allen Ginsberg:

“Dear Allen Ginsberg,
Watched a tourist from New Zealand taking pictures of Fijian people in the marketplace thought of inserting my cameras lens in your A hole to photograph the walls of your rectum.
I really do apologize But the thought did occur.

Michael Weiner”

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4176194 Gregor Samsa Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:24:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4176194 <i>I’m not gonna put my wife in a hijab. And I’m not gonna put my daughter in a burqa.</i> And just who is asking this man to put his wife in a hijab and his daughter in a burqa? What in the world is this man talking about? Does he make sense to anyone here? Other than the obvious goal to bash a religion he doesn't like, that is. More and more, Savage sounds like he belongs in a mental institution and not in a radio station. What a paranoid twit. I’m not gonna put my wife in a hijab. And I’m not gonna put my daughter in a burqa.

And just who is asking this man to put his wife in a hijab and his daughter in a burqa? What in the world is this man talking about?

Does he make sense to anyone here? Other than the obvious goal to bash a religion he doesn’t like, that is.

More and more, Savage sounds like he belongs in a mental institution and not in a radio station. What a paranoid twit.

]]> By: ShorelineCT http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4176184 ShorelineCT Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:20:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4176184 Here is your chance to "Rate" the radio show of Dr. Savage http://streamingradioguide.com/radio-show.php?show=328 Check out the results already posted, the add your own words of wisdom (see Listner reviews) http://streamingradioguide.com/radio-show.php?show=328 Here is your chance to “Rate” the radio show of Dr. Savage

http://streamingradioguide.com/radio-show.php?show=328

Check out the results already posted, the add your own words of wisdom
(see Listner reviews)

http://streamingradioguide.com/radio-show.php?show=328

]]> By: Mr.Bungle http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4176181 Mr.Bungle Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:19:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4176181 This is very different from the Rutgers/Imus thing. While I loathe Savage, and he is most certainly an idiot, he went after what he feels is a horrible outlook and philosophy. Imus called some college girls, "nappy-headed hoes". These are quite different things. That being said, I fully support all the advertisers yanking their sponsorship of Savage. He's a hate monger of the highest order. This is very different from the Rutgers/Imus thing. While I loathe Savage, and he is most certainly an idiot, he went after what he feels is a horrible outlook and philosophy. Imus called some college girls, “nappy-headed hoes”.

These are quite different things. That being said, I fully support all the advertisers yanking their sponsorship of Savage. He’s a hate monger of the highest order.

]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-4176108 sacopenapa Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:57:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4176108 AMERICA HAS A DOUBLE STANDER WHEN IT COMES TO ANYTHING! JUST COMPARE THE 'FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY' IN THE US WITH THE 'FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ'! OR ASK ANY NICARAGUAN ABOUT THEIR FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY US STYLE! AMERICA HAS A DOUBLE STANDER WHEN IT COMES TO ANYTHING! JUST COMPARE THE ‘FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY’ IN THE US WITH THE ‘FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ’! OR ASK ANY NICARAGUAN ABOUT THEIR FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY US STYLE!

]]> By: Imichael http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-4176099 Imichael Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:54:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/does-the-us-tolerate-anti-muslim-speech/#comment-4176099 This is outrageous. All religious sponsors should pull there ads from him. We are a country based on freedom of religion. One no greater than the other, all equal under the law. It would be a great gesture for Christians and Jews to show their support. Especially Jews since they should understand religious persecution. This is outrageous. All religious sponsors should pull there ads from him. We are a country based on freedom of religion. One no greater than the other, all equal under the law. It would be a great gesture for Christians and Jews to show their support. Especially Jews since they should understand religious persecution.

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