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	<title>Comments on: Hersh: Bush Told Olmert Of NIE Two Days Before President Was Allegedly First Briefed On It</title>
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		<title>By: Diana Moneymaker</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/hersh-bush-iran-2/comment-page-4/#comment-4178759</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana Moneymaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The powers that be must HATE the Internet. Lol. If it wasn&#039;t for the Internet then we&#039;d love Bush and think he&#039;s the best President in history.

Thank you Internet :)

Love,
Diana Moneymaker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The powers that be must HATE the Internet. Lol. If it wasn&#8217;t for the Internet then we&#8217;d love Bush and think he&#8217;s the best President in history.</p>
<p>Thank you Internet :)</p>
<p>Love,<br />
Diana Moneymaker<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4178759', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Never mind that heâ€™s been claiming Bush was about to bomb Iran for about 4 years straight now.&quot;

Are you now denying that the Bush Administration has wanted to bomb Iran?  Really?

&quot;Who the hell cares if he got the date wrong? What relevance does it have?&quot;

Christmas will be celebrated on Thur Dec 27 this year.  Enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Never mind that heâ€™s been claiming Bush was about to bomb Iran for about 4 years straight now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you now denying that the Bush Administration has wanted to bomb Iran?  Really?</p>
<p>&#8220;Who the hell cares if he got the date wrong? What relevance does it have?&#8221;</p>
<p>Christmas will be celebrated on Thur Dec 27 this year.  Enjoy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4178049', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bernard quatermass</title>
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		<dc:creator>bernard quatermass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DreamCrusher ... wait ... stay perfectly still ... what is that stuff coming out of your face?? 

OH! 

It&#039;s CRAP! 

I guess I should have known.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DreamCrusher &#8230; wait &#8230; stay perfectly still &#8230; what is that stuff coming out of your face?? </p>
<p>OH! </p>
<p>It&#8217;s CRAP! </p>
<p>I guess I should have known.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177696', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: nitish</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/hersh-bush-iran-2/comment-page-3/#comment-4177532</link>
		<dc:creator>nitish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 13:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is this the same seymour hersh &lt;em&gt;who admits to lying&lt;/em&gt; on a regular basis when speaking in public ?

&lt;em&gt;Then thereâ€™s Sy. Heâ€™s the public speaker, the pundit. On the podium, Sy is willing to tell a story thatâ€™s not quite right, in order to convey a Larger Truth.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;em&gt;â€œI canâ€™t fudge what I write. But I can certainly fudge what I say.â€&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Hersh insists that he takes great pains to be right when it counts the mostâ€”that is, when he writes, not when he talks&lt;/em&gt;

that well known right wing outfit NY Mag came up with a profile titled &quot;Sy Hersh Says Itâ€™s Okay to Lie (Just Not in Print)&quot;

so is sy hersh going for the &quot;larger truth&quot; here ? 
or is he actually telling the truth ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is this the same seymour hersh <em>who admits to lying</em> on a regular basis when speaking in public ?</p>
<p><em>Then thereâ€™s Sy. Heâ€™s the public speaker, the pundit. On the podium, Sy is willing to tell a story thatâ€™s not quite right, in order to convey a Larger Truth.</em><br />
<em>â€œI canâ€™t fudge what I write. But I can certainly fudge what I say.â€</em><br />
<em>Hersh insists that he takes great pains to be right when it counts the mostâ€”that is, when he writes, not when he talks</em></p>
<p>that well known right wing outfit NY Mag came up with a profile titled &#8220;Sy Hersh Says Itâ€™s Okay to Lie (Just Not in Print)&#8221;</p>
<p>so is sy hersh going for the &#8220;larger truth&#8221; here ?<br />
or is he actually telling the truth ?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177532', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Menehune</title>
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		<dc:creator>Menehune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With no consequences for deception, Doc, the web can be as tangled as necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With no consequences for deception, Doc, the web can be as tangled as necessary.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177531', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Doc Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O what tangled webs we weave when first we practice to deceive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O what tangled webs we weave when first we practice to deceive!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177519', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rockyroad</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockyroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 07:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor spelling, I know.  I will no longer apologize.  My passions run fairly high on the subject.

Perhaps I was a child left behind. . . . In fact, I believe that dub&#039;ya counts on the ignorance of the masses.

Anyone who can&#039;t add up the inconsistencies in Bush&#039;s statements (and for that matter all GOP candidates and a couple of Democratic positions) needs rudimentary math classes.  This is a topic about which I am passionate.  Fingers fly faster than I can type.

Worst president ever.  He has forever changed our concept of democracy.  &quot;We&#039;ve got the best democracy on the planet . . . an example for all&quot; . . . hell, get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor spelling, I know.  I will no longer apologize.  My passions run fairly high on the subject.</p>
<p>Perhaps I was a child left behind. . . . In fact, I believe that dub&#8217;ya counts on the ignorance of the masses.</p>
<p>Anyone who can&#8217;t add up the inconsistencies in Bush&#8217;s statements (and for that matter all GOP candidates and a couple of Democratic positions) needs rudimentary math classes.  This is a topic about which I am passionate.  Fingers fly faster than I can type.</p>
<p>Worst president ever.  He has forever changed our concept of democracy.  &#8220;We&#8217;ve got the best democracy on the planet . . . an example for all&#8221; . . . hell, get over it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177489', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rockyroad</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/hersh-bush-iran-2/comment-page-3/#comment-4177484</link>
		<dc:creator>rockyroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 07:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith:
World Trade Center bombing #1, al Quaed&#039;s penchanchant for returniing to the scene of the crime, known Saudi terrorists training to fly airplanes but not to land, FBI agents standing on their heads screaming that Arab terrorists planning to bomb the Trade Centers with airplanes, a National Security Briefing detailing the possibility that Arab terrorists planned to attack American financial institutions and monuments with airplanes . . .  who had the imagination to imagine the fact that terrorists planned to attach the World Trade Centers during the first week of September 1991 with airplanes . . . I dunno know.  Certainly not Bush, who was busy reading a story about goats to children while on vacation in Crawford, Texas, while that briefing laid &quot;unread&quot; on his desk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith:<br />
World Trade Center bombing #1, al Quaed&#8217;s penchanchant for returniing to the scene of the crime, known Saudi terrorists training to fly airplanes but not to land, FBI agents standing on their heads screaming that Arab terrorists planning to bomb the Trade Centers with airplanes, a National Security Briefing detailing the possibility that Arab terrorists planned to attack American financial institutions and monuments with airplanes . . .  who had the imagination to imagine the fact that terrorists planned to attach the World Trade Centers during the first week of September 1991 with airplanes . . . I dunno know.  Certainly not Bush, who was busy reading a story about goats to children while on vacation in Crawford, Texas, while that briefing laid &#8220;unread&#8221; on his desk.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177484', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: darladoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>darladoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 07:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh no, israel disagrees.  and they&#039;re &lt;em&gt;always&lt;/em&gt; right.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh no, israel disagrees.  and they&#8217;re <em>always</em> right&#8230;..<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177478', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JPark91</title>
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		<dc:creator>JPark91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I used to support Israel wholeheartedlyâ€¦but they lost me when they built that damned wall. &quot;

Really, annie?  Why?  The wall is an admission that they can&#039;t hold their settlements.  Which are against international law and have been for decades.  I am glad you realize the Israelis are not exactly on the up and up but I am curious why you think they were before?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I used to support Israel wholeheartedlyâ€¦but they lost me when they built that damned wall. &#8221;</p>
<p>Really, annie?  Why?  The wall is an admission that they can&#8217;t hold their settlements.  Which are against international law and have been for decades.  I am glad you realize the Israelis are not exactly on the up and up but I am curious why you think they were before?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177470', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rockyroad,

Spring 2001, The Lone Gunmen tv show had someone takeover a commercial airliner by remote control and fly it into the WTC!   But Rice and W tell us that noone could have foreseen such a thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rockyroad,</p>
<p>Spring 2001, The Lone Gunmen tv show had someone takeover a commercial airliner by remote control and fly it into the WTC!   But Rice and W tell us that noone could have foreseen such a thing.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177465', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rockyroad</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockyroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well give Bush a break.  If his wizard John Bolton says â€œnever, until this week,â€ long befor publication of the NIE brief, when his tarot card reader advised him that THIS week, he would be informed that Iran didnâ€™t have a WMD capability, he wouldnâ€™t actually KNOW it until this week, how could Bush possibly have known (amnesia is such a convient contrivance . . .&quot;Yes, I hire advisors, but they only advise me. . . I absolutely will not tolerate the truth&quot;).

Just think back to 9-11, how could Bush possibly have imagined that jets would slam into the World Trade Center towers, he had been briefed, but the reality of the fact really wasn&#039;t exactly reality until it was.

Heck, he had Wolfowitz screaming afterward that the Iraqi&#039;s had WMD and were responsible for the bombing (not that Iraq had anything to do with it), Wolfowitz was the expert on WMD, he said bomb, we bombed, he lied and got sent out to pasture at the World Bank (where he continued to wreak  havoc).  Years later, memories lapse, 4,000 Americans and Lord knows how many tens of thousands of Iraqis dead, Wolfowitz is back in charge of WMD policy with Iran in his cross-hairs, Iran has no WMD, but all is right with the world . . .  dub&#039;ya wasn&#039;t properly briefed more than a year ago, he&#039;s been screamin&#039; WWIII, and hot damn, we&#039;ve got an election on the horizon.

And all is right with the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well give Bush a break.  If his wizard John Bolton says â€œnever, until this week,â€ long befor publication of the NIE brief, when his tarot card reader advised him that THIS week, he would be informed that Iran didnâ€™t have a WMD capability, he wouldnâ€™t actually KNOW it until this week, how could Bush possibly have known (amnesia is such a convient contrivance . . .&#8221;Yes, I hire advisors, but they only advise me. . . I absolutely will not tolerate the truth&#8221;).</p>
<p>Just think back to 9-11, how could Bush possibly have imagined that jets would slam into the World Trade Center towers, he had been briefed, but the reality of the fact really wasn&#8217;t exactly reality until it was.</p>
<p>Heck, he had Wolfowitz screaming afterward that the Iraqi&#8217;s had WMD and were responsible for the bombing (not that Iraq had anything to do with it), Wolfowitz was the expert on WMD, he said bomb, we bombed, he lied and got sent out to pasture at the World Bank (where he continued to wreak  havoc).  Years later, memories lapse, 4,000 Americans and Lord knows how many tens of thousands of Iraqis dead, Wolfowitz is back in charge of WMD policy with Iran in his cross-hairs, Iran has no WMD, but all is right with the world . . .  dub&#8217;ya wasn&#8217;t properly briefed more than a year ago, he&#8217;s been screamin&#8217; WWIII, and hot damn, we&#8217;ve got an election on the horizon.</p>
<p>And all is right with the world.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177452', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks to the great George Bush taking out your good old pal Saddam, 
Comment by John Kerry â€” December 5, 2007 @ 12:37 am

Progressives ALWAYS opposed Saddam.  Carter had sanctions against him.  Reagan quickly removed the sanctions and began aiding him strongly.  Ditto GHWB.  Ditto Rumsfeld.  It was our CIA which put him in power in the first place.  I contributed to Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and the International Red Cross which told of Saddam&#039;s atrocities while the cons were supporting him.

The Arab League said that Saddam had agreed in March 2003 to leave for $1 billion and a guarantee of safety.    But neocons didn&#039;t want to just &quot;take him out&quot;.  He wanted to control that part of the world--mainly because of the oil and natural gas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks to the great George Bush taking out your good old pal Saddam,<br />
Comment by John Kerry â€” December 5, 2007 @ 12:37 am</p>
<p>Progressives ALWAYS opposed Saddam.  Carter had sanctions against him.  Reagan quickly removed the sanctions and began aiding him strongly.  Ditto GHWB.  Ditto Rumsfeld.  It was our CIA which put him in power in the first place.  I contributed to Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and the International Red Cross which told of Saddam&#8217;s atrocities while the cons were supporting him.</p>
<p>The Arab League said that Saddam had agreed in March 2003 to leave for $1 billion and a guarantee of safety.    But neocons didn&#8217;t want to just &#8220;take him out&#8221;.  He wanted to control that part of the world&#8211;mainly because of the oil and natural gas.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177450', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: foobar</title>
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		<dc:creator>foobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 05:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hersh said:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Iâ€™m told that Olmert had a private discussion with Bush about it during Annapolis&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

By whom?  I cannot take Hersh&#039;s word at face value.  He is known to fabricate information to bolster his agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hersh said:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Iâ€™m told that Olmert had a private discussion with Bush about it during Annapolis&#8221;</em></p>
<p>By whom?  I cannot take Hersh&#8217;s word at face value.  He is known to fabricate information to bolster his agenda.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177446', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SP Biloxi</title>
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		<dc:creator>SP Biloxi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 05:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hersh: Bush Told Olmert Of NIE Two Days Before President Was Allegedly First Briefed On It&quot;

He must think the American people are village idiots. Another nail in the clown&#039;s legacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hersh: Bush Told Olmert Of NIE Two Days Before President Was Allegedly First Briefed On It&#8221;</p>
<p>He must think the American people are village idiots. Another nail in the clown&#8217;s legacy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177403', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This entire series of events is all interconnected.  Valerie Plame was covertly investigating weapons proliferation, but her company would have blown holes in Cheney&#039;s plan, so she had to go.

This NIE has been in the pipe for more than a year - while Cheney tried strong arm tactics daily to get them to support his maniacal claims.  I think the NIE agencies just decided they would not be made patsies any more.  

To even consider that Bush heard from McConnell about the direction of this report and did not question him further tells us one of two things:  either Bush is incredibly more stupid than we thought, or worse, he&#039;s not that stupid, but he is a liar, out of control.
He is either too incompetent to be president, or too corrupt.  He has been proven to have lied to the public and the world.  He is way past irrelevant now.

Read Hersh&#039;s piece in the New Yorker from last November - he nailed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This entire series of events is all interconnected.  Valerie Plame was covertly investigating weapons proliferation, but her company would have blown holes in Cheney&#8217;s plan, so she had to go.</p>
<p>This NIE has been in the pipe for more than a year &#8211; while Cheney tried strong arm tactics daily to get them to support his maniacal claims.  I think the NIE agencies just decided they would not be made patsies any more.  </p>
<p>To even consider that Bush heard from McConnell about the direction of this report and did not question him further tells us one of two things:  either Bush is incredibly more stupid than we thought, or worse, he&#8217;s not that stupid, but he is a liar, out of control.<br />
He is either too incompetent to be president, or too corrupt.  He has been proven to have lied to the public and the world.  He is way past irrelevant now.</p>
<p>Read Hersh&#8217;s piece in the New Yorker from last November &#8211; he nailed it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177384', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: questioneverything</title>
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		<dc:creator>questioneverything</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To ThinkP12-4-07 re: Hersh and Iran:

Maybe if Valerie Wilson hadn&#039;t been exposed, the CIA would have had more concrete info on Iran&#039;s nuke program sooner. Perhaps that was the reason they outed her and her undercover operation. Perhaps the Congress could look into the connections. Perhaps they could actually ask Bob Novak what in the f*** he was being paid for. Oh, wait, I forget, few of them care to ask the right quesitons. Dots--what dots? Pelosi believes they still have no evidence of impeachable offenses. We all know it&#039;s already been proven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To ThinkP12-4-07 re: Hersh and Iran:</p>
<p>Maybe if Valerie Wilson hadn&#8217;t been exposed, the CIA would have had more concrete info on Iran&#8217;s nuke program sooner. Perhaps that was the reason they outed her and her undercover operation. Perhaps the Congress could look into the connections. Perhaps they could actually ask Bob Novak what in the f*** he was being paid for. Oh, wait, I forget, few of them care to ask the right quesitons. Dots&#8211;what dots? Pelosi believes they still have no evidence of impeachable offenses. We all know it&#8217;s already been proven.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177256', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Brain From Planet Arous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brain From Planet Arous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;That Freerepublic link was effing scary. All the posts were by one dude. Iâ€™m afraid of that guy.

Comment by ForTruth â€” December 4, 2007 @ 8:13 pm&lt;/em&gt;

If one wants to see the face of the Gorgon, read FreeRepublic. I do to see what makes these people tick. It is literally a collection of sociopaths, rednecks, Neo-Cons, War Mongers, Ditto Heads, Religious Fanatics, and just plain dummies. I used to read Bizarro Comics as a kid, but this is much funnier.....Well, let me take that back, if people weren&#039;t dying and the USA wasn&#039;t in such rough shape, it would be very funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>That Freerepublic link was effing scary. All the posts were by one dude. Iâ€™m afraid of that guy.</p>
<p>Comment by ForTruth â€” December 4, 2007 @ 8:13 pm</em></p>
<p>If one wants to see the face of the Gorgon, read FreeRepublic. I do to see what makes these people tick. It is literally a collection of sociopaths, rednecks, Neo-Cons, War Mongers, Ditto Heads, Religious Fanatics, and just plain dummies. I used to read Bizarro Comics as a kid, but this is much funnier&#8230;..Well, let me take that back, if people weren&#8217;t dying and the USA wasn&#8217;t in such rough shape, it would be very funny.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177255', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ditch Mitch KY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ditch Mitch KY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yesterday 12/3, Hadley said that Bush knew about the NIE Report for &quot;several months,&quot; which would be before his 10/17 press conf, where he went into his spin about &quot;Iran and WWIII.&quot;

&lt;strong&gt;Today,&lt;/strong&gt; Bush said that he only learned about the NIE Report last week.  Oh, really?  Hersh challenges that statement, based on Bush&#039;s conversation with Olmert on 11/26, where he discussed the NIE.

&lt;strong&gt;How can anyone believe Bush&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt; when he said that Mike McConnell told him about the new NIE report in August, but Bush &quot;didn&#039;t ask about it&quot; and &quot;wasn&#039;t told anything.&quot;

&lt;/strong&gt;If this could possibly be true,&lt;strong&gt; and Bush didn&#039;t know about the NIE when he said on 10/17 that Iran would start WWII, &lt;/strong&gt;WHY&lt;strong&gt; didn&#039;t Mike McConnell correct this misstatement?  Why didn&#039;t he go public about Iran&#039;s nonexistent nuclear program so that Bush&#039;s bellicose statements could not lead to War?  Can anyone believe this scenario?

&lt;/strong&gt;No -- of course not.&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;  We all know Bush lied in his press conference today.  It was a pathetic sight to see Bush -- from the most powerful position in the world -- looking so pathetic.  We need to nail Bush on this.  Call Congress and the media -- demand action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday 12/3, Hadley said that Bush knew about the NIE Report for &#8220;several months,&#8221; which would be before his 10/17 press conf, where he went into his spin about &#8220;Iran and WWIII.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Today,</strong> Bush said that he only learned about the NIE Report last week.  Oh, really?  Hersh challenges that statement, based on Bush&#8217;s conversation with Olmert on 11/26, where he discussed the NIE.</p>
<p><strong>How can anyone believe Bush</strong><strong> when he said that Mike McConnell told him about the new NIE report in August, but Bush &#8220;didn&#8217;t ask about it&#8221; and &#8220;wasn&#8217;t told anything.&#8221;</p>
<p></strong>If this could possibly be true,<strong> and Bush didn&#8217;t know about the NIE when he said on 10/17 that Iran would start WWII, </strong>WHY<strong> didn&#8217;t Mike McConnell correct this misstatement?  Why didn&#8217;t he go public about Iran&#8217;s nonexistent nuclear program so that Bush&#8217;s bellicose statements could not lead to War?  Can anyone believe this scenario?</p>
<p></strong>No &#8212; of course not.<strong> </strong>  We all know Bush lied in his press conference today.  It was a pathetic sight to see Bush &#8212; from the most powerful position in the world &#8212; looking so pathetic.  We need to nail Bush on this.  Call Congress and the media &#8212; demand action.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177250', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sacopenapa</title>
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		<dc:creator>sacopenapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>USA/ISRAEL=WAR CRIMINALS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>USA/ISRAEL=WAR CRIMINALS!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177241', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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