Lou Dobbs gets three-hour daily radio show.
By on Dec 4th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
Lou Dobbs gets three-hour daily radio show.
TVNewser reports that CNN’s Lou Dobbs is “entering into a deal with United Stations Radio Networks to host a three-hour daily radio show. The show is expected to launch in March and air from 3pmET to 6pmET.” USRN CEO Nick Verbitsky on the announcement:
United Stations is incredibly proud to be the radio partner for the new Lou Dobbs Show. Lou is a broadcaster of integrity and quality and plenty of charisma. Lou is also currently voicing exactly what most Americans are feeling, and when you combine that with his ability to entertain and engage listeners, in our medium, that’s a bulls-eye.
Dobbs has repeatedly claimed that undocumented immigrants are causing a leprosy outbreak in the United States.
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Wow, now we can have 6 straight hours of anti-illegal immigration rants with Rush Limbaugh, then Lou Dobbs.
December 4th, 2007 at 3:12 pmHOORAY FOR LOU DOBBS!!!!!!!!!!
December 4th, 2007 at 3:13 pmBoy! I can’t wait to not tune in!
December 4th, 2007 at 3:15 pmOh goody! I can’t wait!!!!!!!
Not.
December 4th, 2007 at 3:17 pmLou Dobbs has a face for radio…
December 4th, 2007 at 3:18 pmI wonder if this program will be simulcasted “en Espanol?”
December 4th, 2007 at 3:18 pmWill his radio fans call themselves “lou-sers”?
December 4th, 2007 at 3:22 pmSpeaking of Lou Dobbs – Lou got his ass handed to him by Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzalez this morning: http://www.democracynow.org
December 4th, 2007 at 3:24 pmHour 1 ~ Why immigrants are stealing your cattle.
Hour 2 ~ How immigrants are transmitting illegal thoughts
Hour 3 ~ Why immigrants want to buy your daughter
December 4th, 2007 at 3:27 pmWill his radio fans call themselves “lou-sers�
Comment by Bobwurst
May-be, but I sure will call them that!
December 4th, 2007 at 3:28 pmHey Jason, no one has a problem with LEGAL immigrants it is the illegals that break laws to get here and continue with no respect for our laws. If you really care, check with the Police even in your area and see just who is breaking the laws.
Mexico is tough on those going into their country illegally but think it is just fine going over our border. Because the illegals send billions back and shore up their economy. And our corporations love them because they aren’t paying payroll taxes to employ them.
So, Jason, your tax money is supporting them for schools, medical care and groceries because alot of them are getting welfare as well.
How is that working for you ?
Hooray for Lou Dobbs the only one working for the middle class
December 4th, 2007 at 3:31 pmI’m baffled that anyone would want to listen to this show. Lou Dobbs is a one-trick pony–all he can talk about is illegal immigration, which he assumes to be some sort of national crisis. While I’m probably more conservative than many posters on this site with respect to illegal immigration (I do think it’s a crime, and I do think there should be restrictions), I haven’t seen any convincing evidence that this is a crisis. It seems to me that Dobbs, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, and all the others have to invent their “facts” in order to make the case that this is a national crisis.
The war in Iraq? Crisis.
Health care? Crisis.
Global warming? Crisis.
Ilegal immigration? This can be handled simply by enforcing our existing laws, starting with cracking down on employers who hire illegal immigrants. Not a crisis, in my opinion.
December 4th, 2007 at 3:33 pmOne more thing, it isn’t just people, Mexicans, looking for work coming over the borders. Any nationality can come over with anything in mind to harm America.
And if you remember Lou Dobbs is the only one that informed about selling our ports to Dubai interests. Anyone care about that Bush proposal? Or about selling a major interest in our airlines to foreign investors. Airlines carrying our troops and anyone traveling. Didn’t hear about that on CNN or FOX until Lou brought it up.
December 4th, 2007 at 3:35 pmBiden made a claim in the last debate that 60% of the illegal immigrants in the US we European. Is this true?
December 4th, 2007 at 3:36 pmAngry, myopic old people have to have something to do all day, I guess. Too bad they have to resort to hating on Mexicans.
December 4th, 2007 at 3:36 pmJim – the crisis is that THIS GOVERNMENT IS NOT ENFORCING THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS. That is what Lou is trying to get you to understand. And 12 million illegals from whatever country, yes, that is a big deal. No accounting, no tracking.
December 4th, 2007 at 3:38 pmAlso, do you care if the illegals can vote in an American election? What other country allows that?
#16 No one is hating anyone – my grandson is Hispanic and 75 other nationalities. But we need to control the Borders, Canadian as well as Mexico. Using the laws that are on the books will work. But when you have Prosecutors like Johnny Sutton sending two Border Agents to jail for 10 years for trying to stop a drug dealer with a million dollars in marijuana, do you think this administration is controling your border?
December 4th, 2007 at 3:41 pmre 17
How many undocumented workers voted in the last election? How many votes were negated by caging practices? Which should be easier to fix? How much money goes into the form of unclaimed income tax decuctions and social security witholdings because no one files for it?
December 4th, 2007 at 3:43 pmMore racist garbage !
December 4th, 2007 at 3:44 pmthis will, of course, prove tricky in the summer, when lou usually stays home all day long to make sure that the folks doing his landscaping are caucasian.
December 4th, 2007 at 3:46 pm“Lou is also currently voicing exactly what most Americans are feeling”
If by “Lou Dobbs should find a new job,” I think they’re right about the thoughts of most Americans.
Unfortunately, that job isn’t helping recent immigrants transition into productive citizens.
December 4th, 2007 at 3:47 pmI happen to like marijuana, so that’s probably not the best example to use (on me, anyway)
I agree with you, texaslady – let’s get busy with the laws we have, primarily those that make it illegal to hire illegals.
The problem is that the Havemores make a lot “more” with illegals laboring than with citizens, and our Country’s sole defining characteristic is that it always and only does that which helps the Havemores have more. If keeping illegals out helped the Havemores have more, they would be kept out.
Illegal immigration will never be dealt with – it makes those with much money even more money, and that’s the only law Americans (the rich ones, who actually matter) really want to observe.
December 4th, 2007 at 3:48 pmand – Lou Dobbs IS hating Mexicans, and encouraging others to do the same – better tell that Grandson to watch his step.
December 4th, 2007 at 3:49 pm“Lou is also currently voicing exactly what most Americans are feelingâ€
right, because most americans feel like pushing b.s. about leprosy
December 4th, 2007 at 3:51 pm#17: The U.S. does not “allow” illegal immigrants to vote. I don’t doubt that some have gotten away with it, and I support the enforcement of laws meant to ensure that illegal immigrants to vote. Indeed, I support the enforcement of all our laws–and if the enforcement of laws exposes the injustice of those laws, then those laws should be repealed.
What I don’t support are reactionary measures like border fences, English-only ordinances, and hateful rhetoric directed at Hispanics. The best way to address illegal immigration is to hit employers who break the law where it hurts most–in their wallets.
December 4th, 2007 at 3:56 pmWell, what I hear is he wants the administration to ENFORCE the laws against ILLEGAL anyones coming over the border.
So just shows everyone hears what they want to hear. My grandson is doing just fine thank you. Oh and I am second generation legal immigrant who came by way of Ellis Island, my dad did everything to assimilate and was a proud, taxpaying citizen til he died. In fact our family is made up of LEGAL immigrants from Taiwan, Germany, Mexico, Italy. Like I said Heinz 57 LEGAL immigrants.
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December 4th, 2007 at 3:57 pmLou can have Ben Gleck on his show, and Ben will undoubtedly return the flavor.
December 4th, 2007 at 3:57 pmWhat I meant to say was “I support the enforcement of laws meant to ensure that illegal immigrants don’t vote.”
December 4th, 2007 at 3:58 pm#27: Well, what I hear is he wants the administration to ENFORCE the laws against ILLEGAL anyones coming over the border.
I agree with him on this point. What I don’t agree with is his use of made-up “facts” to justify his position, many of which resort to the worst kind of bogus racial stereotyping (Mexicans bring leprosy across the border, etc.). Dobbs is less strident in his rhetoric than Rush Limbaugh or Bill O’Reilly or Michael Savage, but his racism is just as strong.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:01 pmJim, anywhere that only a drivers license is used for verification to vote, illegals with drivers license can vote. And did in New Mexico. Here in Texas all you need is a drivers license, so guess what.
I have never heard Lou Dobbs call anyone a name on his show and I have watched for at least a year. Unlike Rush Limbaugh calling anti war soldiers “Phoney”. And mocking those with Parkinsons disease. Or how about O’Reilly mocking an 11 year old boy that didn’t leave a child molester. Put your angry where it is deserved.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:01 pmOh god. Just what we need. Another bigoted right wing a$$hole bloviating on the airwaves for another three hours. Oh joy, oh joy!
December 4th, 2007 at 4:03 pmActually we have an outbreak of Polio and Tuberculosis, don’t know about leprosy. Not saying it is coming from Mexico but if they came through somewhere like Ellis Island, where everyone was checked for disease this would be helpful. It worked for all of us who were born from immigrants why not again.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:03 pmWhat is wrong with English only ? That is the main language of this country. Again what other country allows signage to be in two languages? Houston has Chinese and English on some streets.
My Hungarian and German relatives all had to learn English and it is proven that children learn fast. I spent 8 weeks in Germany at 14 and could speak German.
I get real ticked by having to press 2 on the dial to have instructions in English.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:07 pmIn fact our family is made up of LEGAL immigrants from Taiwan, Germany, Mexico, Italy. Like I said Heinz 57 LEGAL immigrants.
Comment by texaslady
And, texaslady, just exactly how is someone from Mexico supposed to become a legal citizen? Our immigration laws and system are very different today than they were when your family immigrated.
If you want to get rid of all the undocumented workers in this country, then you need to start going after the companies who hire them. They would not come here if there were not jobs here for them.
I have never heard Lou Dobbs even come close to suggesting that we go after the companies who are hiring these people. Heaven forbid we should disrupt our capitalistic system by making the people who run these companies follow the law also. Throw a few employers in jail and you will start seeing a change.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:07 pmI get real ticked by having to press 2 on the dial to have instructions in English.
Comment by texaslady
Poor baby. I guess your relatives came here and instantly knew how to speak the language.
And, as an answer to your questions, there are many countries out there where there are more than one language spoken and where signs and other things are in more than one language.
You are beginning to sound like a real racist which is what I suspect is your underlying motive here. It’s typical of immigrants. They want to be the last ones in and then they want the draw bridge raised so that no one else can come in after them.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:09 pmI am not a Democrat I am whoever seems the most honest. And I have seen the consequences of NO BORDER CONTROL which we now have. So take a trip to Brownsville and travel the border to Arizona. Law agencies that are by-passing the White House (their words) have cleaned up an area.
I get real upset with illegal immigrants demanding their rights. Let them go home and demand their government stop taking bribes and stealing from the people.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:10 pmWell I have traveled quite abit as an army wife and unless you speak their language the people aren’t that friendly, not as friendly as we are.
Racist, not at all, believe in laws and follow them, sure do.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:12 pmHow much money goes into the form of unclaimed income tax decuctions and social security witholdings because no one files for it?
Comment by Bobwurst
This is the dirty little secret most racists don’t want people to know. Our government takes in millions of dollars each year from taxes taken out of the checks of undocumented immigrants because they are hired under a bogus social security number. The employers know perfectly well that the documentation they were given was bogus, but they want that worker because they can pay him half of what he would have to pay the white person down the street.
The undocumented worker can’t claim an income tax refund or collect social security because if they tried to do that, they would be caught. So, their money goes into our tax coffers and they get little or nothing in return.
Also, the recent issue of Newsweek has a very interesting article that shows that the undocumented workers ARE NOT a drain on our social services system either.
What I will say from now until kingdom come, if you really want to stop undocumented workers from coming across our border, arrest and fine the employers who are giving them jobs. That will instantly solve the problem. But, you never hear any of our politicians talking about tackling the problem from the job supply side. Nosiree. Can’t interfere with our capitalistic system.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:16 pmI don’t think so Southern Man.
Liberals generally feel we should allow the illegals for humanitarian reasons.
The conservatards are divided between their greed and racism. This is why big business conservatards won’t deport them. And your Bushy won’t deal with it. It’s big money having illegal, cheap labor.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:16 pmbillo – So what you are saying is we should be one country, Mexico, U.S. and Canada without restrictions of any kind.
No need to learn the language, no need to pay taxes, no need to be healthy.
Anyone going into any country is a guest and as guests you do what you can to respect that country.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:18 pmMy rich, former inlaws(R) only like Mexicans around when they are doing their yardwork. And would throw a hissy fit if the yardworkers suddenly disappeared, and they had to pay regular rates for that work.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:20 pmbilo – You need to suck it up and listen to Dobbs he talks about which companies are doing the illegal hiring whenever there is a bust. I listen to O’Reilly just to open my mind, you should try it as well.
Bilo- The companies are paying many of these people under the table, no payroll taxes. Also are you aware that the EIC tax credit can be sent to Mexico for the children there? So, don’t even tell me how much is being left here.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:23 pmI have never heard Lou Dobbs even come close to suggesting that we go after the companies who are hiring these people.
Comment by bilbobaggins — December 4, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
I’ve heard him say this numerous times.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:24 pmI do notice that he seems to be more anti-illegal Mexican immigrant than any other nationality.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:27 pmI agree that if we enforce the present laws and make it economically undesirable to hire illegal aliens, it would go a long way to the goals he is looking for.
However, we should probably look into a good guest worker program because a lot of lower level jobs would hard to fill otherwise.
Lou Dobbs televised when a bust came about two months ago, only show to do it. And he is adament that companies need to verifiy the social security numbers. Companies are saying it will take 3 months, well it can be done in hours a week at the most. So guess who is lying.
Germany for one if you want to even live there you have to have financial support/and or a job to get an apartment. Recent friend who moved there informed me. And if the economy gets bad guess who is out of a job and housing first, immigrants.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:31 pmLou, you’re just like Bush: 1) a divider not a uniter, 2) mean-spirited, 3) a fear-monger, and 4) a supporter of the well-heeled. Stop pretending you favor the middle class.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:32 pmWhy is TP still trying to persuade Americans that illegal aliens entering our country without our knowledge is somehow ok? Most Dems don’t even agree on that.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:35 pmAt least Dobbs is better than the stools over at Fox whom I don’t want to waste time mentioning.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:37 pmWe have a guest worker program that has been in effect since the 1950’s again we have lost control of it because of lack of enforcement.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:37 pmI agree the Republicans say one thing but support another, they want the illegals in for cheap labor, the Dems for votes. Pretty sickening on both sides.
Dobbs is talking Independent and Populist programs instead of either present party, listen to him.
It would be much less costly to put up a databank for all those wanting a “guest worker pass” than a fence or law enforcement agencies. Make it accurate and fast. Drivers license sure, but noting NOT A CITIZEN.
There are many cheaper, faster ways to correct the illegal problem than what any politician is proposing.
Roger money talks.
The cheap labor is just too damn good. Anyone connected to money, Dems and Repubs, will allow this to continue.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:37 pmWhat is wrong with English only ? That is the main language of this country. Again what other country allows signage to be in two languages? Houston has Chinese and English on some streets.
Comment by texaslady — December 4, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
Just to name a few I know, China has signage in two or three languages in most places, usually English, Mandarin, and a predominant local language. Kazakhstan has signage in Russian and Kazakh. India has signage in English, Hindi, and a predominant local language. Morocco has signage in French and Arabic. Israel has signage in Hebrew, Arabic, and English.
It’s really not that uncommon for countries to embrace people who don’t speak the native language. Particularly ones that like getting revenue from tourists.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:39 pmPlease tell what you would say if ten million illegals got up tomorrow and decided they liked the republican party? “Bush brainwashed em you tards. We can’t allow this, send them mextards back!!â€. Something like that?
Comment by Southern Man — December 4, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
I’d wonder how the hell Karl Rove came up with that caging list.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:43 pmAs part of my former work it was my task at times to do reverse look-ups for last known addresses for persons by using their SSN’s. About one in twenty would have a mis-match. That mis-match was always a hispanic name.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:45 pmIdentity theft will eventually impact virtually everyone of us at this rate.
What is so difficult to understand the difference between immigrant or illegal? If one enters a country without papers that person is breaking a law. What is racist about expecting those entering a country to have a passport or documentation? I have to have a passport to enter Mexico or any other country.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:48 pmI for one agree with every word Lou Dobbs says. Call me a racist troll if you must. Lou talks about all the jobs lost in this country. He addresses our horrible ‘free trade’ deals that are hurting the middle class. And yes he talks about ILLEGAL immigration. Sorry but I wouldn’t mind one bit if all the illegal immigrants got rounded up and sent back to their native country. Some of you posters on here say Lou hates Mexicans. That is not true! He hates the fact that millions of people are in this coutry illegally! This is a security issue as well as an economic issue. Don’t be mad at Lou for addressing the problem be mad at the Congress! Both Democrat and Republican! It would be so easy to put a stop to illegal immigration but neither party has the balls to do it. All Congress has to do is pass legislation that states if you are caught hiring illegal immigarnts you will be fined so heavy that your business will be bankrupt. Once they cannot be hired her they will not come. But like I said neither party has the balls to confront their corporate puppet masters. In the end we pay!!!
December 4th, 2007 at 4:49 pmKansasLiberal- I have to agree.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:52 pmAgain, I wonder how many on this thread have lost a job to outsourcing overseas? Have you tried buying anything made in the U.S. this year? Dobbs is trying to bring attention to the fact that all the Parties have been selling out America for years. Were you aware that the government wanted to outsource Social Security? How about that?
I can’t talk about Carter but Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II have given America away with both hands. And Dobbs brought attention to the Ports giveaway, the airline giveaway. Did you hear any other station talking about the plans?
How about the highway from Mexico to Canada, or the plans to open both borders and make Mexico, U.S. and Canada one country.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:55 pmIt would be wild west all over again without any controls.
#64 you are spot on! Except you left out Ronald Reagen.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:57 pmtexaslady,
December 4th, 2007 at 4:59 pmthey already outsourced passport processing to the lowest bidder and cut the employees’ pay 10 to 20 percent. Watch for this: The contractor will be found to have hired illegals to process the legal.
#65 – Too busy raising babies to know much about politics during the Reagon era. Do remember he de controlled the air traffic controlers and it was chaos for quite awhile.
I plan to learn all I can about being a Populist and Independent because what we have to choose from now is bubkus.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:01 pmDoesn’t matter what any of us think.
Illegals make rich f’ers a bunch of money
therefore, the supply of illegals will be maintained.
This is the Land of the Billionaire, and only the Billionaire’s interests will be served.
Now, you people shut up, and get back to enriching the Billionaires.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:03 pmWhat is so difficult to understand the difference between immigrant or illegal? If one enters a country without papers that person is breaking a law. What is racist about expecting those entering a country to have a passport or documentation? I have to have a passport to enter Mexico or any other country.
Comment by texaslady — December 4, 2007 @ 4:48 pm
Yeah. We get it. Thanks for the lesson in Civics 101. Now, how about thinking about life in the real world?
The fact is that there are 13-20 million people in this country who may not have entered legally, or perhaps entered legally but overstayed their visa. They have jobs here, often several jobs. Most of them have families here. As a spending bloc, they represent about 3-6% of GDP. Communities and industries are dependant on them.
How do you propose we deal with them? Rounding them up and deporting them is physically impossible and morally reprehensible. Building a moat or a wall or a series of tesla coils may keep some new immigrants out, but does nothing about the oeople here. Communities can move the problem around by passing anti-(illegal)-immigrant policies that are by design divisive and bigoted.
How do policies like this help anyone?
We need a holistic solution that recognizes all the factors in the equation – not just enforcement, but economic and trade policy that creates poverty in Mexico and Central America, a constipated and racially-biased legal immigration system that frustrates people trying to come here legally, and an economic system that’s based on companies exploiting cheap labor.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:03 pmHow about the highway from Mexico to Canada, or the plans to open both borders and make Mexico, U.S. and Canada one country.
It would be wild west all over again without any controls.
Comment by texaslady — December 4, 2007 @ 4:55 pm
We already have a highway from Mexico to Canada. You can take I-35 from Nuevo Laredo to Thunder Bay. What’s the problem?
December 4th, 2007 at 5:06 pmSouthernman – I think you have it right, the Church is suffering from lack of funds because of their scandals and need the money the illegals provide. What happened to separation of Church and State? Isn’t that why Churchs are tax exempt? So if you are mixing in politics take away the tax exemption. Can’t have it both ways.
Leftcoast – I heard about that here that it takes weeks and weeks to get a passport or even renew it because of lack of staff and funding. There was an article about Social Security that many employees are leaving and not being replaced and the back up for hearings on Disability is years. Again, agencies getting cut in funds. Got to keep putting that money in the war chest I guess
December 4th, 2007 at 5:07 pmHow do you propose we deal with them?
December 4th, 2007 at 5:07 pmComment by toasterhead — December 4, 2007 @ 5:03 pm
Of course it would be impossible and reprehensible to round up all those illegally living in the U.S. But, it is possible to begin to slow the tide. We must start with enforcement of the borders and employment verification. If government can get that right then I would agree to more “holistic” measures.
toasterhead – this isn’t the same highway we are talking about. And I suppose you feel Mexico trucks should have a total pass without restrictions? Like checking for safety features?
December 4th, 2007 at 5:08 pmComment by texaslady
Move from Texas. I live here, love Mexicans and their culture.
Let’s START by enforcing the laws we already have. That’s where we have failed miserably.
Or, stop doing business with those companies which you must press “2″ for English, if it’s really taking such a toll on you.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:10 pmtoasterhead – Strange that the sherrif in Arizona has been doing a real good job rounding up the illegals. Now trying to bill our government or the Mexican government for housing is another problem. Anything can be done if there is a will to get it done.
Jailing Border Agents for doing their jobs isn’t getting it done, says a message to all agents look the other way.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:10 pmtexaslady- The Mexican trucks will not be just dropping off loads. They will be picking up loads after they have delivered to Kansas City, and then truck to another city while making their way back to Mexico.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:12 pmtoasterhead – this isn’t the same highway we are talking about. And I suppose you feel Mexico trucks should have a total pass without restrictions? Like checking for safety features?
Comment by texaslady — December 4, 2007 @ 5:08 pm
Our trucks have a total pass in their country, thanks to NAFTA. Canadian trucks have a total pass in our country, also thanks to NAFTA. That’s probably the least-worrisome feature of NAFTA.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:12 pmI want to press 1 for a real person not a machine which doesn’t have the right department that I need. Guess that makes me a prima donna huh? What language is spoken in the area you live in?
December 4th, 2007 at 5:12 pmtoasterhead – Strange that the sherrif in Arizona has been doing a real good job rounding up the illegals. Now trying to bill our government or the Mexican government for housing is another problem. Anything can be done if there is a will to get it done.
Comment by texaslady — December 4, 2007 @ 5:10 pm
And is he rounding up illegal Irish or Italian or German immigrants, or just brown ones?
December 4th, 2007 at 5:13 pmYou didn’t answer my question do you think Mexican trucks have the same safety regulations we have? You may want to speak to our highway patrol and ask them. Like it or not there are less regulations and bribery is the norm for everything in Mexico, so tell me again how safe their trucks are.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:14 pmYou didn’t answer my question do you think Mexican trucks have the same safety regulations we have?
Comment by texaslady — December 4, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
This is true. It’s an asinine question.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:16 pm# 80 -Just the ones breaking the laws is that good enough for you?
December 4th, 2007 at 5:19 pmWhat language is spoken in the area you live in?
Comment by texaslady — December 4, 2007 @ 5:12 pm
In English it’s considered improper grammar to end a sentence with a preposition. You might want to learn the English language a little better before you go criticizing banks for catering to their customers who are more comfortable banking in Spanish or any other language.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:19 pm# 80 -Just the ones breaking the laws is that good enough for you?
Comment by texaslady — December 4, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
Racist laws need to be broken sometimes. Remember Rosa Parks? She was a criminal, too.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:20 pmThere has been selected Mexican trucking companies to do a trial run of safety inspections. If safety standards are met that still will not take care of the situation that Mexican truckers will be doing more than going from point A to point B. They will carry loads within the U.S., taking jobs from U.S. truckers as they make their way back south.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:21 pmSo toasterhead – you are for open borders with no passports, no accountability, no taxes, and open healthcare for anyone going to the hospital or doctor. Do I have that right?
My thinking is that you are one of the employers of illegals and pay in cash so that the rest of the population carries the tax burden.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:21 pmSo toasterhead – you are for open borders with no passports, no accountability, no taxes, and open healthcare for anyone going to the hospital or doctor. Do I have that right?
My thinking is that you are one of the employers of illegals and pay in cash so that the rest of the population carries the tax burden.
Comment by texaslady — December 4, 2007 @ 5:21 pm
No, no, no, yes, and no. I’m for a humane immigration policy that recognizes the realities of our current system.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:23 pmTH – Rosa Parks didn’t break a law she broke a policy of the bus company. They got her on disturbing the peace. She was a tax paying citizen, whose feet hurt.
All we are asking is for anyone coming in to work or live be documented, healthchecked with someone vouching for them. It worked for years and years for all immigrants it can work again.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:25 pmLame argument. They aren’t crossing the border from Mexico into Arizona. Irish or Italians have to wait their turn, unlike the illegal Mexicans are.
40% of illegal immigrants are visa overstays. They don’t cross a border except when they fly over it. They’re not just coming from Mexico. But thanks for reinforcing my argument that the issue is racist.
The people coming from Mexico are not wanted in their own country. Why would we want people their own country doesn’t want? We will become like Mexico in thirty years. You think we are corrupt now, just wait.
Comment by Southern Man — December 4, 2007 @ 5:23 pm
Good point. Do you think they’re the tired, the poor, or the huddled masses yearning to breathe free?
December 4th, 2007 at 5:26 pmbillo – So what you are saying is we should be one country, Mexico, U.S. and Canada without restrictions of any kind.
No need to learn the language, no need to pay taxes, no need to be healthy.
Anyone going into any country is a guest and as guests you do what you can to respect that country.
Comment by texaslady
No, that is not what I said at all. If you want my opinion I think we should set up a guest worker program that allows these people to come here to do jobs that most citizens of our country won’t do. And please don’t tell me there are no such jobs because I lived in California for years and know this to be true. The guest worker program should afford these people the right to medical care (I believe in a single payer system anyway) and not tax them in a way where they are paying taxes they can never recover. Then I think we should decide how many new residents of this country we want per year and allow those in the country legally as a guest worker to participate in a lottery for the open citizen slots.
I also think that we need to shut down the H1 visas where companies like Microsoft are bringing programmers into this country to work for $12 an hour rather than the $24 an hour they would have to pay a citizen of our country. Do you think that kind of “legal immigration” is a good thing for our country?
You, texaslady, would not be here today if this country had the same attitude towards immigration as they have today. You and your family gained by the immigration laws of many years ago. The only people who gain from our immigration system today are the rich immigrants…go figure, now why would that happen.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:26 pmSo TH – how do we pay for roads, hospitals schools with no taxes being paid ? A utopian society but not realistic.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:27 pmI listen to O’Reilly just to open my mind, you should try it as well.
Comment by texaslady
Well, that pretty much says it all. I was trying to figure out if you were just a racist or both a troll and a racist. You answered my question for me. I will no longer talk to you because talking to racist trolls is a complete waste of time.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:28 pmAll we are asking is for anyone coming in to work or live be documented, healthchecked with someone vouching for them. It worked for years and years for all immigrants it can work again.
Comment by texaslady — December 4, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
It worked for years and years for all the ethnic groups we decided to stop discriminating against – the Irish, the Germans, the Jews, the Catholics, the Chinese, etc.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:28 pmbilbobaggins – have to agree with the H1B visas.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:31 pmBilo – you did not read my comments. I have nothing against immigration. I just want documented people coming in. Ellis Island worked just fine for years.
We have guest worker programs, seen them since 1958, workers in Iowa. We just need enforcement. Not going to get it from either parties.
And yes I would be here, my dad came in 1922 with $20.00 and a name of a person who supported him. He worked for others, became a citizen and paid for a nice piece of farmland during the depression. He also learned English first and foremost.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:31 pmWe need to document everyone who enters. And they need to learn our ways, and share their culture with us.
Comment by Southern Man
Do you have any idea how many ex patriots there are in Mexico, from this country, who don’t bother to learn Spanish beyond what they need to tell their maid what to do and to order a drink in a bar? The Mexicans don’t seem to mind. They treat them the same as they treat their fellow citizens. Also, many places in Mexico have signs in English and literature in English. Are you saying that they should not do that, that Mexico should scorn us because we haven’t learned their language?
December 4th, 2007 at 5:31 pmSouthern Man- had the same incident with my car.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:32 pmEvery ethnic group that came in was discriminated against at first, Germans were Krauts. The Irish and Italians were scorned by their families if they married one another. Discrimination is here today and until the races all mix will continue on.
But on the subject, close your mind Mr. Bilo and you will learn nothing. You have made your mind up so why bother entering this discussion.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:35 pmAnd yes I would be here, my dad came in 1922 with $20.00 and a name of a person who supported him. He worked for others, became a citizen and paid for a nice piece of farmland during the depression. He also learned English first and foremost.
Comment by texaslady
I’m sorry, but I disagree. You would not be here today, under our current immigration system, unless your family was wealthy. Do you have any idea how many people we allow to immigrate to this country these days? It’s not many.
Do you think that our government should be arresting the employers of illegals or the or the illegals they knowingly hired? Just asking.
Regarding the money into the system, you have no idea how much money goes into our tax system daily out of the pockets of undocumented workers. And they don’t send an EIC home since they can only get an Earned Income Credit if they can file a tax return. Since they don’t have legal employment status, they can’t file for the Earned Income Credit. Try getting your head out of the sand and doing some actual research on the immigration system in this country. You might enlighten yourself. But, I doubt it. You sound like you have your mind thoroughly made up with the help of Lou Dobbs and Bill O’Reilly.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:36 pmThe Mexican President just said wherever there is a Mexican it is Mexico….so guess from Texas to Maine we are all guests of the Mexican government.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:37 pmDobbs was a guest on Democracy Now! today and constantly interrupted Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzalez, barely allowing them to speak. He came across as incredibly arrogant and self-serving, barely acknowledging that he has been wrong about the immigration issue and attempted to claim that those who appeared on his program spouting racial remarks were not actually his guests. To quote Shakespeare, Dobbs, like another demagogue, Bill O’Reilly, was all sound and fury, signifying nothing.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:38 pmBut on the subject, close your mind Mr. Bilo and you will learn nothing. You have made your mind up so why bother entering this discussion.
Comment by texaslady
Oh, I see. I’ve made up my mind but yours is open. Yeah right. Anyone who listens to O’Lielly is not someone I would call a particularly open minded person. If you were open minded, you would throw your shoe at the TV every time that man lied into the camera.
You are right, though. I have made up my mind on immigration. It was made up by looking at all sides of the coin and coming up with an opinion that feels good to me. I stated it earlier and I will stick with it.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:38 pmSo TH – how do we pay for roads, hospitals schools with no taxes being paid ? A utopian society but not realistic.
Comment by texaslady — December 4, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
First of all, “illegals” do pay sales taxes, so asserting that they pay no tax at all is simply wrong.
Secondly, we need a system that encourages them to establish a legal presence in the country, get a genuine ID, and get a legal taxpayer number so they can start paying income tax. And once they’re out of the shadows, they can organize against exploitative employers for better wages, better working conditions, and health insurance.
We’re never goign to address the problem if we’re constantly immigrant-bashing and threatening them with roundups and deportation. If anything, this just sends them further into the informal economy.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:39 pmSouthern Man- had the same incident with my car.
Comment by leftcoast
Maybe if you spoke Spanish, you could have negotiated a cash settlement, with the promise that you’d turn them in for deportation if they didn’t pay.
Or we could all just whine that we’re “victims”.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:39 pmAt what point do we say enough already?
Comment by Southern Man — December 4, 2007 @ 5:38 pm
If history is any guide, it’s only when our economy is in a downturn and the party in power is looking for someone to blame. Nobody cares about “those illegals” when the economy is booming.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:41 pmIllegal aliens don’t pay insurance for their cars. When I got into a wreck with one last year….
Comment by Southern Man
That is one of the arguments for giving them driver’s licenses. I don’t know if they still do it, but at one time California gave undocumented workers driver’s licenses and they had to have proof of insurance to get and keep the driver’s license (that’s true for all California drivers). It solved the uninsured undocumented worker problem in California.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:42 pmIf history is any guide, it’s only when our economy is in a downturn and the party in power is looking for someone to blame. Nobody cares about “those illegals†when the economy is booming.
Comment by toasterhead
Of course they don’t. They need them to babysit their kids and to mow their lawns.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:43 pmI didn’t say I liked O’Reilly but I listen now and then to hear another side. I can’t hardly stand to watch or hear Bush but I listen so I can determine which lie he is using today.
Non-citizens have a different form to use for requesting 1) rapid refund and 2) EIC. This was two years ago and I am trying to remember the code number. But the rapid return was for $2,000 and sent to Mexico. We have an agreement with Canada and Mexico.
But, hey, you have to think your way and I will think mine. Have a great evening.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:43 pmBilo – you can buy insurance one month at a time, but it get your license and drop it. Too bad when you have an accident with an un insured illegal.
And other states have dropped it saying it was a nightmare.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:44 pmAnd once they’re out of the shadows, they can organize against exploitative employers for better wages, better working conditions, and health insurance.
Comment by toasterhead
Uh oh…that’s exactly what the “powers that be” don’t want to happen. It would be very easy for the companies who hire undocumented workers to lobby for a guest worker program so that they could hire them legally. But they don’t want to hire them legally. If they did they would 1) lose their power over the worker (you know, do what I tell you or I’ll turn you over to immigration, 2) pay them a decent wage and 3) run the risk that they will do what you are saying.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:46 pmComment by Billy Hill
Wi-fi in the outhouse to use babelfish…
December 4th, 2007 at 5:49 pmCancun
Comment by Southern Man
Yeah, but that’s the most gringo of resorts, so of course they kissed your a$$.
Try venturing OUT someday, like to Akumal or Belize, but, then again, that’s probably just too damn frightening for you – a culture that DOESN’T speak your language.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:51 pmNope DNFP….my uncle is Mexican.
Comment by Billy Hill
Cool, but I want to hear about the Wi-fi in your damn outhouse!
December 4th, 2007 at 5:52 pm… don’t you mean “Mexican American”, or is he still deep to our south?
December 4th, 2007 at 5:53 pmIf illegal aliens(12 million) started voicing their support for the republican party, we would have walls that China would be proud of. The panic and hysteria would be on every major news outlet. “Why we have to stop the invasion of illegal aliens, Cancer!â€. Can’t let the other side get an edge. And that means you neglect the people you are supposed to represent, and help the people who are illegal. What logic our leaders show.
Comment by Southern Man — December 4, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
you’re such an idiotic liar. You aren’t worth the shit it would take to bury you. racist.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:56 pmNon-citizens have a different form to use for requesting 1) rapid refund and 2) EIC. This was two years ago and I am trying to remember the code number. But the rapid return was for $2,000 and sent to Mexico. We have an agreement with Canada and Mexico.
But, hey, you have to think your way and I will think mine. Have a great evening.
Comment by texaslady
Sorry, this will only work if the immigrant has been legally hired. If they were hired using a false social security number (like most do), they would not be able to file for the EIC.
December 4th, 2007 at 6:18 pmMexican immigration laws are much tougher than ours. They allow very few US citizens to become Mexican citizens. And as far as signs, they are put up in vacation destinations in Mexico, not in Vera Cruz where nobody visits. I just came back from Cancun. My first thought after checking into the hotel was†They know what a cash cow this is for the country.†And they make sure you want to come back. Most of the hotel staff spoke english to accomodate it’s guest. Very smart move on the hotels part.
Comment by Southern Man
The ex patriots from this country are not interested in becoming citizens. They are interested in finding a place where they can live cheaply and take advantage of the poor nation they are living in. They love having a maid who will work for $5.00 a day and they love their cheap drinks in the local bars. They also like the low-cost medical care they can get in Mexico. All in all, they take advantage of the country they are in and contribute very little to it.
So, you say they put up signs in English to accommodate the tourists, do we do that here? We used to get millions of Japanese and Chinese tourists in this country every year (but not since Bush is on his scare tear) but do you see signs in those languages to accommodate the tourists?
December 4th, 2007 at 6:24 pmNow it’s me who is supposed to learn another language so I can settle our differnces.
Comment by Southern Man
Yup. The guy that hit you is ALREADY HERE. So, the ball’s in your court. Either learn to take the upper hand, or whine about your “victim-hood”.
December 4th, 2007 at 6:25 pmEvery four years Lou Dobbs pops up to helpfully remind everyone who will listen that there’s “no difference between Democrats and Republicans.”
This year, he has added something fresh to his act. Dobbs would like us to believe that labor problems in this country are not as much related to “Free Trade” and “Globalization” as they are a bunch of Mexicans coming across the border… as if people don’t have their steel factory or auto factory or shoe factory jobs because of Mexicans. Mexicans are the shiny object in the corner corporatists like Lou Dobbs would like you to focus on so that you don’t see the real enemies sitting in their corporate board rooms.
December 4th, 2007 at 7:51 pm“Now it’s me who is supposed to learn another language so I can settle our differnces.” whines the Southern Man.
Southern Man, children in Switzerland are REQUIRED to learn two other languages besides the Swiss language. In most Western European countries children are REQUIRED to learn at least one other language. Are you so lazy-minded that you not only can’t imagine having to learn Spanish, but your crying like a little baby just at the thought?
December 4th, 2007 at 7:53 pmCountdown Worst Person – today
Louie “Lou-Lou” Dobbsolini, baby!!
for relying on gobs of illegal labor to support his daughters’ precious pony pursuits on the show-jumping circuit!!!
Dobbs is/was a Reagan-Righty blueblood wannabe poser, smart enough to try to find a market somewhere outside the declining right-leaning cable news audience. His populist spiel is the last line of defense for any Righty, one where their interests cross paths with racist xenophobes conveniently. Strange bedfellows, indeed.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:01 pm#133 – I was interested in your comment re:two languages in Switzerland…looked it up and yes a second language is taught, however Swiss is the primary one.
And, Lou Dobbs has firmly said it is the outsourcing by companies saving money that is costing jobs as well as people like Bill Gates pushing for highly technical jobs to be filled with out of country people. His problems with the undocumentated workers is security. Too bad you don’t have sources in Iowa, as well as the South to see the problems of illegal, undocumented workers are causing. So easy to be so casual when the problem is not in your backyard.
December 4th, 2007 at 10:12 pmTlady -
Should Lou be benefiting from the use of illegal immigrant labor?
He is, but he doesn’t/wouldn’t admit to it on his show, despite his outraged calls for others to appear on his.
December 4th, 2007 at 10:23 pmAnybody who uses the racist word “illegals” should have their post deleted by Think Progress.
Dobbs is a major hypocrite as was revealed by Keith Olberman on Countdown today. He employs dozens of undocumented immigrants for his daughters horses, this should be a major blog on all progressive web sites tomorrow.
December 5th, 2007 at 1:51 amYAWN- Illegal aliens.
YAWN- Illegal aliens.
YAWN- Illegal aliens.
That will be the sum total Lou’s three hours a day.
∞
December 5th, 2007 at 2:05 amhow can someone go on for 3 hours a Day talking about how much they hate mexicans? christ
December 5th, 2007 at 5:36 amThis thread is getting old, so I am sure that no one will read my post, but I’ve gotta vent! First of all Dobbs is NOT racisit, sure he is a one trick pony, but it is a very important issue. Those who think ill of Dobbs obviously don’t listen to him much or catch him while channel surfing.
Second, I lost my summer job to ILLEGAL aliens while in college installing windows forcing me to take out more student loans my Senior year. I saw my old boss driving in a new Lexus a couple of months after being laid off for lack of work. Illegals are some of the hardest working people I’ve ever seen, but THEY ARE ILLEGAL! After college my IT degree became about useless in part because of all the H1Bs and outsourcing. My salary has declined from $120k/yr. to $50k and am still saddled with tens of thousands of student loans.
I always thought the Dems were supposed to be for the working stiffs like me, I never understood why they support the illegals.
BTW, quit using the euphamistic “undocumented” worker, thats tantamount to saying that it is alright to be in some sort of restricted area no matter who you are – you just happen to have never been issued a security badge.
December 5th, 2007 at 1:33 pm