White House Reveals Bush Lied: Was Told In August Iran’s Nuclear Program ‘May Be Suspended’
White House Reveals Bush Lied: Was Told In August Iran’s Nuclear Program ‘May Be Suspended’
On Tuesday, President Bush said he was never forewarned by the intelligence community that Iran had suspended its nuclear weapons program in 2003:
In August, I think it was John — Mike McConnell came in and said, We have some new information. He didn’t tell me what the information was.
Now the White House is revealing that wasn’t true. In fact, Bush did know what the information was. CNN reports:
President Bush was told in August that Iran’s nuclear weapons program ‘may be suspended,’ the White House said Wednesday, which seemingly contradicts the account of the meeting given by Bush Tuesday.”
The White House statement released by Dana Perino tonight also states McConnell told Bush “the new information might cause the intelligence community to change its assessment of Iran’s covert nuclear program.”
On Tuesday, Bush said “nobody ever told me” to back down from his hawkish rhetoric on Iran. No, maybe not. But Bush knew Iran “may have suspended” its nuclear weapons program and that the intelligence community was in the process of “changing its assessment.” And yet, he continued to warn of “World War III” and a “nuclear holocaust” because nobody told him specifically to stop.
UPDATE: Dan Froomkin reported today that Bush deceptively “changed the way he talked about Iran” starting in August. “Instead of directly condemning Iranian leaders for pursuing nuclear weapons, he started more vaguely accusing them of seeking the knowledge necessary to make such a weapon. Even as he did that, however, he and the vice president accelerated their rhetorical efforts to persuade the public that the nuclear threat posed by Iran was grave and urgent.”
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LOL so the truth comes out. Bush lied. What a surprise.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:12 pmToo funny.. Where is the surprise here? There are entire BOOKS written on the lies of George Bush..
December 5th, 2007 at 10:18 pmBush seems to be completely amoral. Fascinating.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:19 pmbush woke up. bush lied. bush had breakfast. bush lied. bush sat behind his desk at the oval office. bush lied. bush had lunch (tuna melt and kool-aid). bush lied. bush had a press conference. bush lied. bush took a nap. bush lied. bush watched “people’s court”. bush lied. bush had dinner. bush lied. bush had a fight with laura. bush lied. bush talked with daddy on the phone. bush lied. bush skipped “24″ and went to bed early. tomorrow’s another day.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:21 pmMy God. Will we get the truth on Bush’s latest round of lies?
Pat Buchanan said this morning on MSNBC that Biden should call Rice and Mike McConnell before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to ask them POINT BLANK — did they tell Bush about the NIE Report? No more bullshit Condi — give us a yes or no answer.
Buchanan said if Rice or McConnell didn’t tell Bush about the NIE Report, they should be fired on the spot. If they did tell Bush and he continued with his warmongering threats against Iran, well . . . Buchanan didn’t say, but we can fill in the blanks. It’s impeachment time.
By the way, it’s past time to demand the truth from Air-Head Perino. She tosses her hair, gives a slight smirk, and lies through he teeth to protect her buddy Bush. Enough already.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:21 pmIMPEACH! This is an indictment of Bush and Cheney. It also proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is precisely what he did with Iraq. War crimes! Treason!
December 5th, 2007 at 10:21 pmYou know he’s lying if his lips are moving. ;-)
December 5th, 2007 at 10:22 pmI just want to know when this country is going to finally call him on it. The future of this entire nation is at stake. It matters. Now.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:23 pmIf we think Bush looked bad yesterday, just imagine what he’s going to look and act like by the end of next week when the avalanche of bullshit comes crashing down upon him. He’s in the throes of a nervous breakdown right now.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:23 pmBy the way, it’s past time to demand the truth from Air-Head Perino. She tosses her hair, gives a slight smirk, and lies through he teeth to protect her buddy Bush. Enough already.
Comment by Ditch Mitch KY — December 5, 2007 @ 10:21 pm
All of BushLaden Productions smirks. I had a boss who did the same thing. I was better liked by my fellow employees, had better technical knowledge, and was a better worker. So basically he lied to his supervisor to put me on notice. He would constantly smirk and scratch his ass. It would seem then that Smirking is a sure sign of lying.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:25 pmHey Think Progress …
What do you mean ~ the whitehouse ~ said bush lied ? i doubt it.
Perino wouldnt admit its bad to kill a few collateral damage Iraqis, you think she’d say “bush Lied” ?
Anyway, who gives a crap because this country is run by elites who think were all peasants even if we all have a lot of money and went to grad school
They have power, they own ALL MEDIA, they will decide whats legal and whats not, they will decide if and when the constitution matters….
who are we?
December 5th, 2007 at 10:34 pmIt would seem then that Smirking is a sure sign of lying.
Comment by Brain From Planet Arous — December 5, 2007 @ 10:25 pm
I worked on technical things [large jets] as well. The guys who couldn’t cut it went into management. We had a saying in the hangar, “Those that can do, those that cant…supervise”
December 5th, 2007 at 10:35 pmSlightly off topic:
I can’t believe I never read Georgie’s Wiki Quote entry before:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_W._Bush
Pay especial attention to “grammatical errorsâ€, but, make sure you aren’t drinking. Enjoy!
December 5th, 2007 at 10:36 pmLooks like O’Reilly and the rest of the reich-wingers owe a lot of people an apology.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:36 pmIs the “Liberal” media finally going to nail this bastard and start calling him a flat out liar (like they did to President Clinton)?
December 5th, 2007 at 10:39 pmThe lights are burning at the WH tonight as the Bush Crooks figure out a way to weasel out of this one. Hope they don’t bomb someplace to divert our attention. We should all be in the streets raising hell.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:40 pmWell that clears that up Bush lied. Now why were Bush/Cheney busy trying to get the public support I think it was for Israel as Lieberman is on a mission to make sure Israel gets to own the land they has settled on that belongs to the Palestinians. Notice how the attack on the Iran President was hosted by a Jewish president of the college, protesters were Jewish and even with proof Israel still wants the US to bomb Iran. The US is being used by Israel to do the job they can’t even with the Nuclear Weapons the Bush Administration gave them.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:40 pmBush and Cheney don’t use words to ‘convey’ information, they use words to manipulate people. They have done it the entire time they have been in office. I don’t understand why people keep expecting to hear real, honest information from them. What I REALLY don’t understand is why Congress hasn’t gone after them a LONG time ago when all the lying and secrecy first began.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:41 pmHe pretends not to be the decider when he gets caught lying.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:49 pmBush is seriously in over his head. He is not the decider, he is the great ‘pretender’.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:50 pmI worked on technical things [large jets] as well. The guys who couldn’t cut it went into management. We had a saying in the hangar, “Those that can do, those that cant…superviseâ€
Comment by Xisithrus — December 5, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
Similar (Multimedia and IT). You are 100% correct. Many managers job is to “thin the herd”, i.e., get rid of older workers, where they can get a less competent worker for less money, usually younger, even if they are not as smart or talented.
If you think about it, most operations can run without a manager. In fact, a highly skilled technical crew can self-manage. BushCo is the same. Incompetents in managerial positions.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:53 pmt would have been nice if those Iran guys had just told us when they stoped their nucular stuff 2 years ago. I know it would have saved me many a sleepless nights.
Comment by Billy Hill
Heh. I dont know how old you are but I can remember the nuclear drills since the third grade.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:03 pmDidn’t Bushs’ escalation of the war rhetoric add to unease in the markets and add to the increase in all of our fuel costs? If this is true (not sure thats why I’m asking) is this not something that repubs and Dems can be equally outraged at? Uniter indeed…
December 5th, 2007 at 11:07 pmIf you think about it, most operations can run without a manager. In fact, a highly skilled technical crew can self-manage. BushCo is the same. Incompetents in managerial positions.
Comment by Brain From Planet Arous
Yeh, I did some IT work as well and really didn’t need a boss [He claimed to be a Macintosh guru, turns out he was all talk] We got more done without him. He was good at BSing his boss and that was about it.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:14 pmThe day is fast approaching when these idiots will just be gone. Even more encouraging is the fact that besides the 29% who still feel like being led around by their nose by these guys, their “lectures” are not being met much enthusiasm. Who wants to sit in on a lecture by a man like Gonzalez who’s whole career is based on lying for the Bush family? Or listen to a traitor and quitter like Karl Rove?
December 5th, 2007 at 11:16 pmYes…. I remember the drills in school…..hiding from a big ball of fire under kindling. To use a line.
Comment by Billy Hill
Wasnt that something? Hide under your desk kids and put your head between your legs. Like that was gonna prevent radiation burns or something.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:16 pmZep,
I always figured they just wanted to be able to find the bodies easily. Just look under the desks. :D
December 5th, 2007 at 11:18 pmHeh. I dont know how old you are but I can remember the nuclear drills since the third grade.
Comment by Xisithrus — December 5, 2007 @ 11:03 pm
Yep, Duck and Cover. We used to go into the hall and stand over and protect the females. got in trouble for asking once if this will really protect against a nuke, since I was an avid Science Fiction fan, and knew what a blast would do. Same Nazis creating fear in the public then as now.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:19 pmI suspect the message has been conveyed that they are all in….if impeachment proceedings are started, it’s scorched Earth time. Remember whose fingers hover over ‘the football’. What would these war criminals have to lose?
December 5th, 2007 at 11:19 pmFaiz, that picture is perfect for this post!
December 5th, 2007 at 11:21 pmZep, I always figured they just wanted to be able to find the bodies easily. Just look under the desks. :D\
I thought it was so we could kiss our butts goodbye. =)
December 5th, 2007 at 11:22 pmA little off topic, but I wanted to point this out:
Did everyone notice that Bush began his press conference yesterday with taking a swipe at Congress? He did the same thing back in Oct., as I found on the WH web site:
December 5th, 2007 at 11:22 pmComment by Brain From Planet Arous — December 5, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
Crisis management is no way to run a country thats for sure.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:24 pmI thought it was so we could kiss our butts goodbye. =)
Comment by Xisithrus — December 5, 2007 @ 11:22 pm
Well, I was pretty limber in those days. :D
December 5th, 2007 at 11:26 pmWell, I was pretty limber in those days. :D
Heh.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:30 pmBush will find a way to to be right, like the day a twig fell from a tree and dropped on his head. See Mr. Chicken Little was right!
December 5th, 2007 at 11:34 pmHeh.
Comment by Xisithrus — December 5, 2007 @ 11:30 pm
Now I’d have to get someone else to do it for me. ;)
December 5th, 2007 at 11:35 pmHe lies, he violates the Constitution, he lies, he abuses his powers, he lies - oh, and he lies, too.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:36 pmIt doesn’t matter, however, because he has some kind of sweetheart deal with the Democrats that they will not impeach him.
What does a president have to do to be impeached? Oh, yes, I remember now, he has to be a Democrat.
Here’s another tidbit.
In the 10/17 press conference, Bush was told of Vladimir Putin’s recent visit to Tehran, and that Putin saw no evidence that Iran wanted to build a nuclear bomb.
Bush’s response:
I — as I said, I look forward to — if those are, in fact, his comments, I look forward to having him clarify those…
So as our own intelligence agencies was digesting info that pointed to Iran halting its nuclear program in 2003, and the revelation that Bush new about this in August, once again he still was playing “dumb” in Oct.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:37 pmSo as our own intelligence agencies was digesting info that pointed to Iran halting its nuclear program in 2003, and the revelation that Bush new about this in August, once again he still was playing “dumb†in Oct.
Comment by Bad Eye — December 5, 2007 @ 11:37 pm
Oh, that wasn’t playing… He really is dumb.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:40 pmonce again he still was playing “dumb†in Oct.
Comment by Bad Eye — December 5, 2007 @ 11:37 pm
It’s not an act…
December 5th, 2007 at 11:42 pmOh, yes, I remember now, he has to be a Democrat.
Comment by Marie — December 5, 2007 @ 11:36 pm
And get a hummer in the Oval office… don’t forget the hummer!!!
December 5th, 2007 at 11:43 pmMaybe we can offer him a shiny object in trade for the country?
My gawd it’s so simple that it just might work!
December 5th, 2007 at 11:44 pmHeh, Toasterhead… great minds think alike.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:44 pmNow I’d have to get someone else to do it for me. ;) -Z
Same here. Sad isnt it?
December 5th, 2007 at 11:48 pmComment by toasterhead — December 5, 2007 @ 11:40 pm
Well, I agree. But you all know what I mean…
December 5th, 2007 at 11:51 pmOn Tuesday, Bush said “nobody ever told me†to back down from his hawkish rhetoric on Iran.
Nobody ever told him??? I thought he was the Decider. Nope, he’s just a liar.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:54 pmGeorge senior-
“Junior, you can’t be my blood. When we get home I’m going to punch your momma in the mouth.”
George junior-
“Oh Daddy, please don’t do that!”
Borrowed from Smokey and the Bandit. The father and son relationship seems familiar eh? Junior is a big dummy! What a dummy. Dummy, dummy, dummy.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:54 pmHeh, Toasterhead… great minds think alike.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — December 5, 2007 @ 11:44 pm
Indeed :)
December 5th, 2007 at 11:58 pmThey misunderestimated me.
G.W. Bush * Bentonville, Arkansas (November 6, 2000)
The guy really should learn English before he defends himself in court.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:08 amIn any conflict, your fate will depend on your action. Do not destroy oil wells, a source of wealth that belongs to the Iraqi people. Do not obey any command to use weapons of mass destruction against anyone, including the Iraqi people. War crimes will be prosecuted. War criminals will be punished. And it will be no defense to say, “I was just following orders.”
G.W. Bush * speaking directly to the Iraqi people during a national address, 2003-03-17
Let us hope these words turn out to be the truth.
G’night all.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:14 amAfter all he is the “War President”. Gag me with the constitution.
Bush/Cheney
Hague Trails ‘09
Buck Fush
December 6th, 2007 at 12:31 amSometimes I wonder if there is anything the current administration hasn’t lied about.
If they told me the sky is blue, I’d run outside to see for myself.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:34 amThis is just amazing. This lying sack of shit has done nothing his entire time in office than lie lie and lie again. When the f#$k will he be impeached. What the f@#k does Ron Paul say about this. I refuse to vote for anyone who doesn’t say this ass should be impeached and that includes Ron Paul.
Kucinich, go ahead and impeach this chimp. enough is enough!!
December 6th, 2007 at 12:44 amHoward Dean just emailed me (personally I’m sure):
“Distortions and manipulation to promote a narrow ideological agenda is nothing new to the Bush Administration — it’s how they misled us into Iraq. This is the worst kind of leadership: a dishonest appeal our base emotions.”
asked me to sign a petition here:
http://www.democrats.org/HopeNotFear
And reminded us:
Rudy Giuliani: “Iran is nuclear threat, not just because they can deliver a nuclear warhead with missiles; they’re a nuclear threat because they are the biggest state sponsor of terrorism and they can hand nuclear materials to terrorists.”
Mitt Romney: “If for some reasons they continue down their course of folly toward nuclear ambition, then I would take military action if that’s available to us.”
Mike Huckabee: “A President has to do whatever is necessary to protect the American people. If we think Iran is building nuclear capacity that could be used against us in any way, including selling some of the nuclear capacity to some other terrorist group, then yes we have a right [to attack]. I would do it in a heartbeat. “
December 6th, 2007 at 12:45 amNot very Christian of Pastor Huckabee I might add.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:49 amAs if Huckabee is a Christian….
December 6th, 2007 at 12:50 amHey Zooey. That’s what he says. He also said he didn’t hear about the NIE because he cannot afford a large team of advisers. I managed and I don’t have a single adviser.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:55 amToo bad W didn’t stay longer in Omaha today. He could have gone shopping or something.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:58 amSpeaker Pelosi and John Conyers are OK with this latest bump in the Constitutional road. So are the democratic presidential candidates. (except the honorable Dennis Kucinich). They all make noise, of course, but they’re also all mouth.
We the people are powerless before the organized political racketeers of the republican and democratic parties. They are each utterly corrupt. Not simply in the conventional sense of worshipping mammon, either. Appallingly, they are corrupt when the issue is war and peace.
This nation was Big lied into unleashing war upon the people’s of Iraq nearly five years ago. The same people, using the same tactics, have once again attempted to stampede us into yet another war.
But for all the democrats seemingly care, the issue may as well be an interstate transportation bill. Just who is calling the shots in that party anyway?
December 6th, 2007 at 1:08 amMike Huckabee: “A President has to do whatever is necessary to protect the American people. If we think Iran is building nuclear capacity that could be used against us in any way, including selling some of the nuclear capacity to some other terrorist group, then yes we have a right [to attack]. I would do it in a heartbeat. “
Our foreign policy is now dictating by what someone “thinks” and not based on fact or reality? Brilliant.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:27 am^^ *dictated* ^^
December 6th, 2007 at 1:27 amHere is the deal, folks.
Something has Busch by the balls; why else are they telling us now about a ’suspended program’ of nuclear production. ? Busch could have kept that under wraps.
No; I think Iran is on the verge of ‘testing’ a thermo nuclear device, and this is Busch’s way of putting it off until he is out of office and then blaming it all on faulty intelligence-again-’just like Iraq’.
WHY DID BUSCH BACK DOWN FROM IRAN ??
∞
December 6th, 2007 at 2:04 amTIME FOR IMPEACHMENT OF BUSH AND CHENNEY IS LONG OVER DUE! THE ADMINISTRATION HAS TO BE INVESTIGATED ABOUT THIS, ABOUT IRAQ AND ABOUT 9/11! HAGE 09!!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 2:06 amWe keep looking at and talking about Bush. He’s dumb, incompetent etc. and he lies. This is not about one man in the WH who lies. Everything he does and says is thought out, vetted and approved by a group of people in advance of him ever opening his sock puppet mouth. Bush is only the front man for the people controlling him (with his acquiescence and approval of course.) Bush takes the heat but its BushCo that calls the shots.
December 6th, 2007 at 2:11 am#66 Comment by Billy Hill — December 6, 2007 @ 1:58 am
As Progressive Pacifist I have managed to remove all emotion from my body there for I can accept and be satisfied with what ever happens in the world.
You are not a pacifist in the real sense of the word. You are also not a progressive! What you are is dead to the world. You need to be in therapy.
I have no feelings of hate, angst, envy and all that drives others to do and say foolish things. I accept, no, welcome what ever happens with open arms. So if Iran is or is not building a nucular bomb it matters not to me. If half the world is blown up I could not care less.
Actually, if this is how you really feel, (no feelings of caring for others, compassion, empathy) you are insane.
Mike Huckabee can do or say what ever he wants….so what? Hillary, O’ Bomba, John Edwardscissor hands…..who cares. I am in a state of euphoria and its all natural.
Euphoria?? Well, you should be careful of how much of that drug you are taking. And how do you get it past the authorities outside the rubber room you call home?
December 6th, 2007 at 2:21 amComment by Billy Hill — December 6, 2007 @ 2:32 am
Babble on in your happy state BH. Oh, and do you always come to this board in your present state. One would think so, judging from your posts. And yes, you do need therapy. I feel for you dude.
December 6th, 2007 at 2:36 aman operational nuclear warhead.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 2:37 am
And you, of course, are a non-operational D*ckhead…
Nice Jingle Ballsâ„¢. So good of you ta spread yer holidaze cheer wherever ya go, ya worthless, lying sack of cheney.
December 6th, 2007 at 2:44 amComment by Billy Hill — December 6, 2007 @ 2:32 am
You know the rules, Hillybilly. The grown ups are talking “adult stuff” right now. Back under the double wide. There’s a nice, chilled bottle of T-bird juuuust waitin’ fer ya.
December 6th, 2007 at 2:46 amHow interesting. The only time the resident trolls will come out is when traffic is low. I guess that means they’re simply too embarrassed out come in broad daylight anymore.
I mean, how could you possibly defend Herr Brusch anymore WITHOUT feeling like a completely used tool?
December 6th, 2007 at 2:48 amThe WH must have assessed that the facts were soon to come out surrounding the time frame of Bush being told. They decided on a pre-emptive strike. Still does not exonerate Bush, though. To steal a bit from Bush’s press conference:
December 6th, 2007 at 3:06 amHe is lying. Has lied. And will lie. And if allowed to continue to develop lies will eventually use them and the result will be a smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud.
The one preceeding me.Tool.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:39 amCreamPuffer,
December 6th, 2007 at 4:17 amHow come Sy Hersh had the intelligence November 2006 and our president just got it November 28,2007? Doesn’t really make any sense unless you assume:
a) our president is lying
or
b) His handlers really, really keep him in the dark!!!
Comment by CreamPuffer— December 6, 2007 @ 3:52 am
I remember for eight years Hillary was damned if she didn’t bake cookies and damned when she did; damned if she stood by her man and damned if she didn’t; damned if she wore a dress and damned if she wore a pants suit. That was during the eight years of relative peace and prosperity. Before Republicans led us into a war bleeding our Army, Marines, National Guard, Reserves, and budget.
December 6th, 2007 at 4:24 amComment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 2:37 am
Bush is a congenital liar. Anyone who tries to spin it otherwise just comes off looking like a fool, or a liar themself.
December 6th, 2007 at 5:03 amGerman Christ dems move towards the mid during their convention in Hannover
December 6th, 2007 at 5:46 amQuick note: Everything the 9/11 Truthers say has been thoroughly debunked. Here are three excellent 9/11 conspiracy debunking sites:
http://www.911myths.com/
December 6th, 2007 at 6:29 amhttp://www.debunking911.com/
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/home
It’s easy, we don’t listen to the likes of bleeding heart whiners like you, preferring to think for ourselves and think rationally at the same time.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 3:15 am
Whiner?
HAH!!!
Everytime you mince onto the threads wearing yer Jingle Ballsâ„¢, I make people laugh at you. Yer a joke and you don’t even know it - a fully dysfunctional d*ckhead.
December 6th, 2007 at 6:44 amwow, for the White House to suddenly not cover Bush’s lies! Maybe they are covering their own ass since deleting email isn’t as easy as it used to be. Bushco is slowly being held accountable. When all the facts are known due to Democratic oversight, Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice will all end up in jail.
December 6th, 2007 at 7:00 amIran and many other countries have the knowledge to build nuclear weapons, and for a long time. It is widely available to any intelligent educated scientists and engineers. It is just stupid to say that they shouldn’t have the knowledge.
So many countries could make nukes if they had the material, industrial program, and desire.
December 6th, 2007 at 7:01 amIMPEACHMENT
Bush should have been impeached by now, but he has not. Now, we learn that he again lied to justify an attack on Iran.
THIS IS A HIGH CRIME !!! LET’S DO IT ALREADY !!!
December 6th, 2007 at 7:06 amThe only surprise here is that the White House announced the truth. We all knew that Bush lied and that Bush was given the details back in August. Guess Bush would rather be called a liar than called incompetent. Unfortunately, he is both.
December 6th, 2007 at 7:12 amUnfortunately, he is both.
Comment by Coffins Draped with a Flag — December 6, 2007 @ 7:12 am
So the most powerful man in the world… **cough**… is an incompetent, lying, dry drunk to whom God talks to personally. Great. No wonder I can’t sleep tonight.
December 6th, 2007 at 7:37 amMay i say just one thing? How frickin’ lucky are these idiots? They finally get into hot water in such a way that people were taking notice, and BAM another mall shooter. The NIE was completely gone from the news this morning, replaced on CNN by contiuous Omaha coverage complete with the “sad random massacre” tinkling piano music. Oh, and the President will be making a bold proposal to save the masses from defaulting on their mortgages! There you have both your bread and your circus–no need to cover any other stories.
December 6th, 2007 at 7:45 amThe worst administration in history and very little inclination to tell the truth on any subject! The worst thing is you can not get rid of him now because the Vice President is just as bad if not worse. The republican party is a sham also!
December 6th, 2007 at 7:51 amCaption:
Even a man who is pure at heart and says his prayers at night
December 6th, 2007 at 7:55 amMay become a wolf when the wolfsbane blooms and the autumn moon shines bright.
107…I don’t believe these people, who are absolutely and utterly incompetent at everything else, are capable of running such a vast and nefarious conspiracy…but sometimes you catch yourself wondering!
Anyhow, they don’t need to run any conspiracies. The Bush misadministration makes policies that channel the media companies a ton of money. They in turn have the ability to cover for Bush as needed. It is just an understood quid pro quo–there didn’t have to be an overt conspiracy.
December 6th, 2007 at 8:02 amImpeach. Kthxbai.
~Sean
December 6th, 2007 at 8:07 amAnyone that (all along) thought that anyone in the Bush Krime Family had an ounce of Integrity has their head up their ass!
December 6th, 2007 at 8:20 amThe all-knowing almighty Commander Guy’s biggest lie: I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
December 6th, 2007 at 8:38 amI smel desperation. When is 9/11 Pt. 2?
December 6th, 2007 at 8:42 amHey Bert,
Did bartlett tell you regurgitate that?
December 6th, 2007 at 8:51 amHey bert,
Did you meet ernie in the men’s room at the minnieapolis airport?
December 6th, 2007 at 8:55 amhttp://ccoaler.blogspot.com/ 2007/ 12/ smallexplosivedevice.html
Small bomb explodes in Paris
December 6th, 2007 at 8:55 amToo many lies to be able to remember the truth.
OT, but I’m so very curious: How many sentences has President Bush commuted since Scooter Libby’s?
December 6th, 2007 at 8:58 amPerry Logan: Nice try but most people already know the inevitable. Bush’s latest loss in credibility only brings the people closer to accepting the inevitable truth about 911 - that it was, indeed, an inside job.
Bush Senior has been behind everything dispicable and inauthentic in this country since his involvement in the murder of JFK while he was head of CIA. Nothing good can ever come of a foundation which is built on fiction and lies.
December 6th, 2007 at 8:58 amBert is OK with a President that lies. He will gladly back Hillary when she lies because he will know it’s for the good of the country. He is a proud American who KNOWS our leaders can do no wrong.
December 6th, 2007 at 8:58 amBert loves ernie, bert loves earnie, but they’re not gay. they’re conservative christain muppets who are fighting the islamotubbies!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:00 am#113 Looks like we’ve got the proof we need for impeachment which doesn’t have to occur while the man is still in office for it to be significant. This time he’s been nabbed breaking his oath of office. It’s over.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:00 amif Bush was told something in August, was it consistent with the July 2007 assessment, or consistent with the assessment that came out four months later?
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 6, 2007 @ 8:56 am
F OFF, dingelberry!!!
You make me wanna puke. You come here and spin like an F-in’ top trying to make this sh*t look like honey, and all you do is come across as totally deluded and desperate.
Hey, I got a good idea, try this line of crap on Scarborough and Buchanan. Even they’ve had enough of Herr Brusch’s gibberish, and you don’t get much more right wing than those two.
I’d warn you about stepping on yer own dick here, but that’d mean you’d have to have the shortest pair of legs ever seen on a troll.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:00 amHow the hell does this man sleep at night?
I wonder if he’s roaming the White House halls at night : drunk. I wonder if he has Nixonesque nights drunk (acutally) with paranoia.
Everyday he lives with being caught in a 8-year Web of Lies and Deciept.
Fasten your seatbelts.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:01 amAnd we all know who the most dangerous individuals are in this country right now - Chertoff and Lieberman.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:01 amcoldhardleft: Your quote is bogus. Get your sorry butt off these threads unless you have something knowledgeable to input.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:02 am*
Comment by BERT CONVY — December 6, 2007 @ 8:55 am
It’s hard to hear what yer sayin’ when yer mouf is full like that, Mr P.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:02 amNo wonder all the Rats have jumped ship.
Well most of them.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:02 amDon’t blame coldhardleft, he’s just regurgitating what the whitehouse tells him. It’s not like he’s capable of having a thought on his own or anything.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:03 amI missed this little item last night, so I realize I’m late to this thread. But this sentence caught my eye:
“On Tuesday, Bush said ‘nobody ever told me’ to back down from his hawkish rhetoric on Iran.”
And this one:
“And yet, he continued to warn of ‘World War III’ and a ‘nuclear holocaust’ because nobody told him specifically to stop.”
Does this strike anybody else as odd? That our president seemingly can’t even take a dump without somebody “specifically” telling him to do so?
When we have a president who openly gives excuses like “nobody ever told me”, we have traveled a long, long way from Truman’s “the buck stops here” sign on his desk. We’ve always known that we have a puppet sitting in the Oval Office — apparently now even Bush is admitting it.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:03 amKay: He looks like the wrath of god these days which is exactly what the stress caused by lying does to a person. Combine the alcoholic binges and blackouts and you’ve got a president who’s about to have a mental breakdown.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:03 amToo funny.. Where is the surprise here? There are entire BOOKS written on the lies of George Bush..
Comment by nwmuse
Here are 26 pages of Bush’s Lies.
http://tvnewslies.org/ phpbb/ viewtopic.php?t=2670&start=0
December 6th, 2007 at 9:06 amignore bert he’s just regurgitating the whitehouse talking points like a good muppet.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:07 ammissmolly: The nobody told me excuse is just another bush lie to the people to cover his butt. He’s the biggest pussy on the planet who can’t admit he is wrong or ever own up to anything. Of course, he knew about it the moment these 16 agencies began to assess their intel. And that was probably somewhere in 2005 since it took them a full year before the NIE report was prepared. This means that Bush knew since sometime in 2005 - a far cry from what he’s spinning about just learning about it this August.
In fact, he should be removed for gross ineptitude right now if he claims that he didn’t know what 16 intelligence agencies within his administration and under his supervision were doing.
Either way, he’s hoist on is own pitard right now. He’ll never spin his way out of this one.
There are too many credible individuals involved in these 16 agences to fall on their sword for Bush this time. They did it only because he had the power back with he cooked the books on Iraq. This time they’ll hang him out to dry by his gonads.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:08 amAnd they wanted to Impeach Clinton for a hummer! When it comes to Presidents, I’ll take a BJ over DOOMSDAY any day!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:08 amThe day any of us learn even one thing from you is the day when fiction parades as truth.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:09 ammiss molly,
Or, he knew but decided to lie anyway. and then say no one told him not to, like he did with the 16 words in his state of the union address. he was told by our guys that saddam wasn’t trying to get uranium from niger so he used the british intel so he couild blame them if he got caught.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:09 amAnd this is precisely the type of lie the people need to learn before they can connect the last and final dot in the 911 puzzle. One must ask oneself if there is anything this president would not lie about and they will begin to see the truth.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:11 amSomeone needs to remind El Jefe that “the buck stops at his desk” and whether he knew about it or not, he’s still guilty.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:11 amcoldhardleft: Your moniker says it all. Cold as a blackhearted demon; hard as one hardened from years of abuse; and left as in ‘out in left field’. At least you have talent in one area - calling a spade a spade. As for your quote: ahahahahahaha!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:13 amThe democrats didn’t sell Iran nuclear technology, Mr. P–that was Dick Cheney.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:13 amQ : Is this the Lie that will finally bring this man down?
December 6th, 2007 at 9:13 amKay: In one word: Abso-$ucking-lutely.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:14 amHe’s down already but the fallout is yet to come.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:15 am@ Bert Convy
December 6th, 2007 at 9:15 amGo back to your game show, I think Paul Lynne wants another one of your Larry Craig-style full-body massages. You mindless lemming!
The late Bert Convy was a host and/or panelist on several game shows, including What’s My Line?, To Tell the Truth, and Tattletales.
And know TP has its own Bert Convy showing up to “discuss” Bush’s veracity. Oh, the irony.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:16 amHow many sentences has President Bush commuted since Scooter Libby’s?
Comment by For Truth — December 6, 2007 @ 8:58 am
I don’t kow how sentences Brusch has commuted, but he sure murders one every time he speaks.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:17 amDearest Bert,
Are you going to be visiting Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Hadley, Rove, Myers, Powell when they are incarcerated in Federal Prison?
December 6th, 2007 at 9:17 amHey bert,
When you fluff ernie, does his knap get caught between your teeth?
December 6th, 2007 at 9:18 amDearest Bert,
Are you going to be visiting Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Hadley, Rove, Myers, Powell ETC when they are incarcerated in Federal Prison?
ooops! I forgot the all important ETC!!!!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:18 amcold hard left,
did dan bartlett direct you to that source?
December 6th, 2007 at 9:19 amThanks for the history lesson CHL! Now, go get a sense of humor.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:19 amComment by cold_hard_left — December 6, 2007 @ 9:15 am
President of the United States Bill Clinton was… acquitted by the Senate on February 12, 1999.
The trial proceedings were largely party-line, with no Democratic Senators voting for conviction and only three Democratic Representatives voting to impeach. In all, 55 senators voted “not guilty,” and 45 voted “guilty” on the charge of perjury. The Senate also acquitted on the obstruction charge with 50 votes cast each way.
Not quite sure why this thread has become about Clinton, BTW.
Oh… that’s right… we’re supposed to forget about Little W’s latest “stepped on his own dick” episode, again.
LOOK! Something shiny!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:20 amSo even when Bush changes his rhetoric, based on changes in intelligence, he is still being “deceptiveâ€. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t, I guess.
Comment by DreamCrusher — December 6, 2007 @ 3:52 am
Therefore, if Bush changed his tune based on intelligence, then he must have known more in August than he is admitting.
Here, let me re-post what Bush said:
Let me say it again: Bush would have us believe that he was told at that time that there is new intelligence but no details were given to him. As well, he apparently didn’t ask any questions as to the nature of the intelligence, whether it had been vetted or not.
So why would he change his tune in the intervening months if he knew nothing about a possible change in Iran’s ambitions? And no one told him to tone down his rhetoric, yet he starts singing a different tune.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:21 amwhen they are incarcerated in Federal Prison?
ooops! I forgot the all important ETC!!!!!!
Comment by Kay — December 6, 2007 @ 9:18 am
Are you suggesting that Bert services for the pleasure of the President, I mean, SERVES at the pleasure of the President, SERVES…
December 6th, 2007 at 9:22 amThe real problem here, Bad Eye, is that ANYTHING to do w/ intelligence escapes Brusch… totally, completely, overwhelmingly.
Indeed, why does intelligence hate America so?
December 6th, 2007 at 9:24 amIMPEACH - SPURIOUS GEORGE MUST GO!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:25 amHey, cold-hard-left. If you use my quote for a bumper sticker just remember, the glue goes on the back. })
December 6th, 2007 at 9:28 amAmerica’s Christmas gift is a non-nuclear Iran and not another Bush/Cheney bloody for oil war on the horizon. Maybe we’ll get two bonus gift this season too - the impeachment of Dumb and Dumber.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:31 amBert: I don’t see any bigoted references except coming from your lips.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:32 amBert,
“I am soooo pissed that President Bush’s policy of kicking Islamo jihadi sand monkey butt has caused the rags in Iran to give up on their nukes before this war President opens a can of good ol’ American whoopass on them.”
Did the beer run out or have you been driven away from your reality TV watching by something else. No prob, put some Charlie Daniels or Molly Hatchet on. Confess it, you miss having “darkies” to lynch, dontcha?
December 6th, 2007 at 9:33 amI don’t think it’s fallen out of vogue as much as the repukes have cornered the market on it. I hear in Congress they’re giving movement lessons this christmas - first you put your right foot oh so wide, then you tap, tap, tap. Yes, I hear it’s the newest congressional “line dance”.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:34 amIt’s a congressional conga line with Chief Shrub leading the parade on the streets of washington during the annual lchristmas parade.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:34 amAnd The Bert & Ernie float will have Hastert and Foley playing hide the sausage.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:35 amFunny. This morning on CNN.com the 2nd or 3rd item on their top news stories was about how Bush new in Aug that Iran had dismantled their nuclear program.
Now it’s gone.
Funny.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:36 am*bert
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Comment by BERT CONVY — December 6, 2007 @ 9:29 am
Aw, bert, we’re just funsin’ wit’cha. I mean, ya cum thru the door callin’ folks moonbats (please define, meaningfully, BTW) do you expect us not ta throw rocks back?
Nice Jingle Ballsâ„¢, BTW. Quite an outfit, Li’l Feller - candy-cane striped codpiece, Jingle Ballsâ„¢, short shorts, pointy toed elf shoes. Whoever’s dressin’ you trolls these days has quite the sense of humor.
Kind of an S&M Munchkin thing goin’ on, huh? Some one get a picture fer tha TP Christmas album.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:36 am“Has that fallen out of vogue?”
Your using your alcohol-sodden brain apparently has, you bag of hammers. Go back to beating up your kids.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:36 amBert has a wonderful way with words!
Merry Christmas to you too, Bert!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:37 amNooooooo….
Bush lying? Nooooooooooooo! It can’t be….
Well, what else can we expect from a guy who has ZERO credibility now?
But just wait, I’m sure today Rush Limbaugh will reveal the true responsible for Bush’s bush-it, and that again will be … ” THE LIBERALS, THE DEMS”.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:42 amOr, he knew but decided to lie anyway.
Comment by Bobwurst — December 6, 2007 @ 9:09 am
Which means that Bush would rather people think of him as an idiot than as a liar. And it’s painfully obvious he’s both.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:55 amIt would have been nice if those Iran guys had just told us when they stoped their nucular stuff 2 years ago. I know it would have saved me many a sleepless nights.
Comment by Billy Hill
It would have been nice if Bush had just told us those Iran guys stoped their nucular stuff when he got the 2006 NIE more than a year ago. I know it would have saved me many a sleepless nights.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:57 amComment by missmolly — December 6, 2007 @ 9:03 am
You can bet that Bush knew. On Countdown on Tuesday, Richard Wolfe said that based on what he knew about Bush, including talking to him on and off the record, Bush asks plenty of questions. Given this, Bush’s revelation that “nobody told me” regarding the nature of the intelligence, and his statement that no one told him to tone down the rhetoric, is B.S.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:58 amIt would have been nice if those Iran guys had just told us when they stoped their nucular stuff 2 years ago. I know it would have saved me many a sleepless nights.
Comment by Billy Hill — December 5, 2007 @ 10:36 pm
Do you think anyone actually cares about you and the trailer park where you live? Why is it that Republican cowards who don’t live anywhere anyone would ever bother targeting are all scared while liberal democrats actually live, work and go on with their lives in cities that have been attacked. Continue to hide under your bed cowering in fear of those bad Muslims.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:58 ambert,
the first lesson of debate is know and address your audience. I make fun of your relationship with that other muppet becuase i know that conservofacists like yourself are anti-gay. and the more anti-gay you are, the more likely you are to be a closeted, or in your case a bathroom stalled homosexual. There are just too many of you not to notice the pattern. You’re all freaks.
December 6th, 2007 at 10:01 ambush has given republicans a golden opportunity to save their party from the ravages of association with the bush/cheney regime. If republicans were to push for impeachment proceedings to investigate bush lying they could get the jump on what many know now, and most everyone will come to know: that Pelosi/Reid were wrong to protect bush and inflict the disaster of this regime longer on the US than necessary; that bush/cheney should have been impeached and removed long ago; and that Pelosi/Reid failed their duty and their oath of office.
republicans pushing for impeachment proceedings would be a 4 punch knockout move for them. It would:
1) clearly distance them from bush
December 6th, 2007 at 10:31 am2) make democrats look awful
3) allow them to recover from their image as the lawless anti-constitutional party bestowed on them by bush
4) allow them to recover from the atrocity of their politically motivated Clinton impeachment.
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So Bush lies and the sycophants defend. Their heads are so far up his ass they chew polyps for breakfast.
The usual flimsy cover for the Chimperor is that “He’s a good man, he has to lie to protect our country.” Or, “Clinton lied, they all lie.” My kids tried that crap when they were in high school. “If I had told you we were going to Mexico, you wouldn’t have loaned us the Jeep. We had to lie.” And, “Everyone else is doing it, everybody lies.” So if these cnts want to defend this pathetic liar pResident, they share the same mentality as zit faced high school freshmen.
There is absolutely nothing Bush could do that would make these last 20%ers, the faithfull, turn against their God Bush. Sad little idiots that we have to share our country with aren’t they?
December 6th, 2007 at 10:53 amI am in step with the mainstream of American society, and history, indeed, is on my side as well.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Uh, your tin-foil hat needs adjusting…
December 6th, 2007 at 11:40 amComment by O. Bigfoot
Au contraire.
Sucking Shrubs stump equates to being a bottom feeder, 29%er, who is TOTALLY OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE MAINSTREAM.
Seriously, just move the foil hat a couple of degrees to your left, and I think you be in better tune with your “fantasy” of existence, Sasquatch breath.
December 6th, 2007 at 11:56 amWell, it is no surprise that El chimpo lied. he and his manipulative cronies have been doing so all along. We are in Iraq with a million Iraqi’s dead and 4000+ of our brave G.I.’s dead and thousands more maimed and/or psychologically damaged, because of the pattern of lies. Billions of dollars have been stolen or wasted or mislaid or misdirected. It is obvious in many ways, including the Plame outing, that they are also vicious and ultra-vengeful. So this is “compassionate conservatism?” These are people of faith? This is the “values” party!
They have the utter audacity to suggest that they have a closer connection to the Almighty than the rest of us! Verily I say unto you, that Boy Scouts, following the handbook rules, have more integrity and Christ-like kindness than these wing-nut, crazos with their rigid, nutzo, off-balance thinking.
All these guys are psychiatrically diagnosable and employ very primitive defense mechanisms, which essentially means that they are terribly unhealthy, emotionally. I would like to see a panel of psychiatrists discuss their ideas about how crazy they all are…Bush, Rove, Cheney, Bolton, Wolfowitz, DeLay, etc, etc, etc.
Same person…different head.
If the administration is so sick, and if Congress cannot find the courage to impeach the lot of them, I pray that the American people will stand up and demand more. America deserves better, much better, for sure.
The time for passivity has long since passed, my friends. We have met the enemy, and it is us.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:33 pm“I am in step with the mainstream of American society, and history, indeed, is on my side as well.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
What a strange turn of events that “the mainstream of America” has been reduced to 24% deadenders. And, it is even more amazing that this tiny “mainstream” has already written future “history” for us.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:44 pmSo THAT explains why President Bush has gotten pretty much everything he has wanted from the Democrat controlled Congress with nary a peep from the people of the United States (except for the always vocal noisemakers on the far left). Thanks for ’splaining that to us.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Actually, O’Bugfart, the American people are very upset that Republicans are obstructing progress on every issue. You deadenders keep it up for the next 12 months, because after that, we’ll have not only a super majority in Congress, but a Democrat in the Oval Office as well. Then, the only thing Congressional Republicans will be able to obstruct will be their own bowels.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:14 pmO’Squatch is all jacked up on the oxy today, I see - having delusions of historical significance and so on - - how long before we see him on the news for shooting up his home, or office, or some mall somewhere?
December 6th, 2007 at 1:29 pmthis tiny “mainstream†has already written future “history†for us.
Comment by shoeless
Not completely, thanks to “using the Google” to reach the internets, we’ve got access to THE TRUTH.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:45 pmWELL, WHAT A SURPRISE! NOT!! THE TEFLON PRESIDENT AND HIS CRONIES WILL ONCE AGAIN SQUIRM OUT OF THIS AND GO ON THEIR MERRY WAY. I SAY IMPEACH AND DO IT NOW!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 2:09 pmSo when do the impeachment hearings begin?
December 6th, 2007 at 4:26 pm“…Bush said “nobody ever told me†to back down…”
And here I thought he was “the Decider.”
Makes you wonder who’s holding his leash.
December 6th, 2007 at 4:51 pmWOW@ Bert Convy…..
that’s a troll’s troll right there…
December 6th, 2007 at 5:44 pmis he the reincarnation of Happy Guy??
or just another Righty, cracked with panic at the sinking of the USS Wingnut.
December 6th, 2007 at 5:48 pmthey won’t impeach him, but they can have him arrested ..GET HER DONE!!!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 8:43 pmSo THAT explains why President Bush has gotten pretty much everything he has wanted from the Democrat controlled Congress with nary a peep from the people of the United States…. Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 12:45 pm
Then why do I see Bush on tv everyday complaining that Congress is NOT doing what he wants? And why is Bush’s job approval rating at about 29% for years?
December 7th, 2007 at 3:48 amNothing you say ever fits reality.
Bert could be Ralph or P. If you go to its link, it really has a strange obsession will Hillary like those two.
December 7th, 2007 at 3:49 amHe was popular enough to get elected twice, and that is all that really matters.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 7, 2007 @ 9:28 am
Ummm, no. He was not elected the first time. Even the WH web site disputes you in Bush’s bio. Besides, Gore was more popular.
December 7th, 2007 at 11:11 amBush said “nobody ever told me†to back down from the hawkish rhetoric on Iran. That sums it up pretty well. He has been told to advocate war against Iran and the order stands unless Cheney or some other of his dark overlords tells him otherwise. That he is merely a puppet has been obvious to informed individuals for years, and I find it positive that he admits it himself so that uninformed individuals can finally grasp it.
December 7th, 2007 at 7:43 pm