White House Reveals Bush Lied: Was Told In August Iran’s Nuclear Program ‘May Be Suspended’
White House Reveals Bush Lied: Was Told In August Iran’s Nuclear Program ‘May Be Suspended’
On Tuesday, President Bush said he was never forewarned by the intelligence community that Iran had suspended its nuclear weapons program in 2003:
In August, I think it was John — Mike McConnell came in and said, We have some new information. He didn’t tell me what the information was.
Now the White House is revealing that wasn’t true. In fact, Bush did know what the information was. CNN reports:
President Bush was told in August that Iran’s nuclear weapons program ‘may be suspended,’ the White House said Wednesday, which seemingly contradicts the account of the meeting given by Bush Tuesday.”
The White House statement released by Dana Perino tonight also states McConnell told Bush “the new information might cause the intelligence community to change its assessment of Iran’s covert nuclear program.”
On Tuesday, Bush said “nobody ever told me” to back down from his hawkish rhetoric on Iran. No, maybe not. But Bush knew Iran “may have suspended” its nuclear weapons program and that the intelligence community was in the process of “changing its assessment.” And yet, he continued to warn of “World War III” and a “nuclear holocaust” because nobody told him specifically to stop.
UPDATE: Dan Froomkin reported today that Bush deceptively “changed the way he talked about Iran” starting in August. “Instead of directly condemning Iranian leaders for pursuing nuclear weapons, he started more vaguely accusing them of seeking the knowledge necessary to make such a weapon. Even as he did that, however, he and the vice president accelerated their rhetorical efforts to persuade the public that the nuclear threat posed by Iran was grave and urgent.”
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LOL so the truth comes out. Bush lied. What a surprise.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:12 pmToo funny.. Where is the surprise here? There are entire BOOKS written on the lies of George Bush..
December 5th, 2007 at 10:18 pmBush seems to be completely amoral. Fascinating.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:19 pmbush woke up. bush lied. bush had breakfast. bush lied. bush sat behind his desk at the oval office. bush lied. bush had lunch (tuna melt and kool-aid). bush lied. bush had a press conference. bush lied. bush took a nap. bush lied. bush watched “people’s court”. bush lied. bush had dinner. bush lied. bush had a fight with laura. bush lied. bush talked with daddy on the phone. bush lied. bush skipped “24″ and went to bed early. tomorrow’s another day.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:21 pmMy God. Will we get the truth on Bush’s latest round of lies?
Pat Buchanan said this morning on MSNBC that Biden should call Rice and Mike McConnell before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to ask them POINT BLANK — did they tell Bush about the NIE Report? No more bullshit Condi — give us a yes or no answer.
Buchanan said if Rice or McConnell didn’t tell Bush about the NIE Report, they should be fired on the spot. If they did tell Bush and he continued with his warmongering threats against Iran, well . . . Buchanan didn’t say, but we can fill in the blanks. It’s impeachment time.
By the way, it’s past time to demand the truth from Air-Head Perino. She tosses her hair, gives a slight smirk, and lies through he teeth to protect her buddy Bush. Enough already.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:21 pmIMPEACH! This is an indictment of Bush and Cheney. It also proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is precisely what he did with Iraq. War crimes! Treason!
December 5th, 2007 at 10:21 pmYou know he’s lying if his lips are moving. ;-)
December 5th, 2007 at 10:22 pmI just want to know when this country is going to finally call him on it. The future of this entire nation is at stake. It matters. Now.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:23 pmIf we think Bush looked bad yesterday, just imagine what he’s going to look and act like by the end of next week when the avalanche of bullshit comes crashing down upon him. He’s in the throes of a nervous breakdown right now.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:23 pmBy the way, it’s past time to demand the truth from Air-Head Perino. She tosses her hair, gives a slight smirk, and lies through he teeth to protect her buddy Bush. Enough already.
Comment by Ditch Mitch KY — December 5, 2007 @ 10:21 pm
All of BushLaden Productions smirks. I had a boss who did the same thing. I was better liked by my fellow employees, had better technical knowledge, and was a better worker. So basically he lied to his supervisor to put me on notice. He would constantly smirk and scratch his ass. It would seem then that Smirking is a sure sign of lying.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:25 pmHey Think Progress …
What do you mean ~ the whitehouse ~ said bush lied ? i doubt it.
Perino wouldnt admit its bad to kill a few collateral damage Iraqis, you think she’d say “bush Lied” ?
Anyway, who gives a crap because this country is run by elites who think were all peasants even if we all have a lot of money and went to grad school
They have power, they own ALL MEDIA, they will decide whats legal and whats not, they will decide if and when the constitution matters….
who are we?
December 5th, 2007 at 10:34 pmIt would seem then that Smirking is a sure sign of lying.
Comment by Brain From Planet Arous — December 5, 2007 @ 10:25 pm
I worked on technical things [large jets] as well. The guys who couldn’t cut it went into management. We had a saying in the hangar, “Those that can do, those that cant…supervise”
December 5th, 2007 at 10:35 pmSlightly off topic:
I can’t believe I never read Georgie’s Wiki Quote entry before:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_W._Bush
Pay especial attention to “grammatical errorsâ€, but, make sure you aren’t drinking. Enjoy!
December 5th, 2007 at 10:36 pmIs the “Liberal” media finally going to nail this bastard and start calling him a flat out liar (like they did to President Clinton)?
December 5th, 2007 at 10:39 pmThe lights are burning at the WH tonight as the Bush Crooks figure out a way to weasel out of this one. Hope they don’t bomb someplace to divert our attention. We should all be in the streets raising hell.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:40 pmWell that clears that up Bush lied. Now why were Bush/Cheney busy trying to get the public support I think it was for Israel as Lieberman is on a mission to make sure Israel gets to own the land they has settled on that belongs to the Palestinians. Notice how the attack on the Iran President was hosted by a Jewish president of the college, protesters were Jewish and even with proof Israel still wants the US to bomb Iran. The US is being used by Israel to do the job they can’t even with the Nuclear Weapons the Bush Administration gave them.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:40 pmBush and Cheney don’t use words to ‘convey’ information, they use words to manipulate people. They have done it the entire time they have been in office. I don’t understand why people keep expecting to hear real, honest information from them. What I REALLY don’t understand is why Congress hasn’t gone after them a LONG time ago when all the lying and secrecy first began.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:41 pmHe pretends not to be the decider when he gets caught lying.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:49 pmBush is seriously in over his head. He is not the decider, he is the great ‘pretender’.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:50 pmI worked on technical things [large jets] as well. The guys who couldn’t cut it went into management. We had a saying in the hangar, “Those that can do, those that cant…superviseâ€
Comment by Xisithrus — December 5, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
Similar (Multimedia and IT). You are 100% correct. Many managers job is to “thin the herd”, i.e., get rid of older workers, where they can get a less competent worker for less money, usually younger, even if they are not as smart or talented.
If you think about it, most operations can run without a manager. In fact, a highly skilled technical crew can self-manage. BushCo is the same. Incompetents in managerial positions.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:53 pmt would have been nice if those Iran guys had just told us when they stoped their nucular stuff 2 years ago. I know it would have saved me many a sleepless nights.
Comment by Billy Hill
Heh. I dont know how old you are but I can remember the nuclear drills since the third grade.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:03 pmDidn’t Bushs’ escalation of the war rhetoric add to unease in the markets and add to the increase in all of our fuel costs? If this is true (not sure thats why I’m asking) is this not something that repubs and Dems can be equally outraged at? Uniter indeed…
December 5th, 2007 at 11:07 pmIf you think about it, most operations can run without a manager. In fact, a highly skilled technical crew can self-manage. BushCo is the same. Incompetents in managerial positions.
Comment by Brain From Planet Arous
Yeh, I did some IT work as well and really didn’t need a boss [He claimed to be a Macintosh guru, turns out he was all talk] We got more done without him. He was good at BSing his boss and that was about it.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:14 pmThe day is fast approaching when these idiots will just be gone. Even more encouraging is the fact that besides the 29% who still feel like being led around by their nose by these guys, their “lectures” are not being met much enthusiasm. Who wants to sit in on a lecture by a man like Gonzalez who’s whole career is based on lying for the Bush family? Or listen to a traitor and quitter like Karl Rove?
December 5th, 2007 at 11:16 pmYes…. I remember the drills in school…..hiding from a big ball of fire under kindling. To use a line.
Comment by Billy Hill
Wasnt that something? Hide under your desk kids and put your head between your legs. Like that was gonna prevent radiation burns or something.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:16 pmZep,
I always figured they just wanted to be able to find the bodies easily. Just look under the desks. :D
December 5th, 2007 at 11:18 pmHeh. I dont know how old you are but I can remember the nuclear drills since the third grade.
Comment by Xisithrus — December 5, 2007 @ 11:03 pm
Yep, Duck and Cover. We used to go into the hall and stand over and protect the females. got in trouble for asking once if this will really protect against a nuke, since I was an avid Science Fiction fan, and knew what a blast would do. Same Nazis creating fear in the public then as now.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:19 pmI suspect the message has been conveyed that they are all in….if impeachment proceedings are started, it’s scorched Earth time. Remember whose fingers hover over ‘the football’. What would these war criminals have to lose?
December 5th, 2007 at 11:19 pmFaiz, that picture is perfect for this post!
December 5th, 2007 at 11:21 pmZep, I always figured they just wanted to be able to find the bodies easily. Just look under the desks. :D\
I thought it was so we could kiss our butts goodbye. =)
December 5th, 2007 at 11:22 pmA little off topic, but I wanted to point this out:
Did everyone notice that Bush began his press conference yesterday with taking a swipe at Congress? He did the same thing back in Oct., as I found on the WH web site:
December 5th, 2007 at 11:22 pm
Comment by Brain From Planet Arous — December 5, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
Crisis management is no way to run a country thats for sure.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:24 pmI thought it was so we could kiss our butts goodbye. =)
Comment by Xisithrus — December 5, 2007 @ 11:22 pm
Well, I was pretty limber in those days. :D
December 5th, 2007 at 11:26 pmWell, I was pretty limber in those days. :D
Heh.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:30 pmBush will find a way to to be right, like the day a twig fell from a tree and dropped on his head. See Mr. Chicken Little was right!
December 5th, 2007 at 11:34 pmHeh.
Comment by Xisithrus — December 5, 2007 @ 11:30 pm
Now I’d have to get someone else to do it for me. ;)
December 5th, 2007 at 11:35 pmHe lies, he violates the Constitution, he lies, he abuses his powers, he lies – oh, and he lies, too.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:36 pmIt doesn’t matter, however, because he has some kind of sweetheart deal with the Democrats that they will not impeach him.
What does a president have to do to be impeached? Oh, yes, I remember now, he has to be a Democrat.
Here’s another tidbit.
In the 10/17 press conference, Bush was told of Vladimir Putin’s recent visit to Tehran, and that Putin saw no evidence that Iran wanted to build a nuclear bomb.
Bush’s response:
I — as I said, I look forward to — if those are, in fact, his comments, I look forward to having him clarify those…
So as our own intelligence agencies was digesting info that pointed to Iran halting its nuclear program in 2003, and the revelation that Bush new about this in August, once again he still was playing “dumb” in Oct.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:37 pmSo as our own intelligence agencies was digesting info that pointed to Iran halting its nuclear program in 2003, and the revelation that Bush new about this in August, once again he still was playing “dumb†in Oct.
Comment by Bad Eye — December 5, 2007 @ 11:37 pm
Oh, that wasn’t playing… He really is dumb.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:40 pmonce again he still was playing “dumb†in Oct.
Comment by Bad Eye — December 5, 2007 @ 11:37 pm
It’s not an act…
December 5th, 2007 at 11:42 pmOh, yes, I remember now, he has to be a Democrat.
Comment by Marie — December 5, 2007 @ 11:36 pm
And get a hummer in the Oval office… don’t forget the hummer!!!
December 5th, 2007 at 11:43 pmMaybe we can offer him a shiny object in trade for the country?
My gawd it’s so simple that it just might work!
December 5th, 2007 at 11:44 pmHeh, Toasterhead… great minds think alike.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:44 pmNow I’d have to get someone else to do it for me. ;) -Z
Same here. Sad isnt it?
December 5th, 2007 at 11:48 pmComment by toasterhead — December 5, 2007 @ 11:40 pm
Well, I agree. But you all know what I mean…
December 5th, 2007 at 11:51 pmOn Tuesday, Bush said “nobody ever told me†to back down from his hawkish rhetoric on Iran.
Nobody ever told him??? I thought he was the Decider. Nope, he’s just a liar.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:54 pmGeorge senior-
“Junior, you can’t be my blood. When we get home I’m going to punch your momma in the mouth.”
George junior-
“Oh Daddy, please don’t do that!”
Borrowed from Smokey and the Bandit. The father and son relationship seems familiar eh? Junior is a big dummy! What a dummy. Dummy, dummy, dummy.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:54 pmHeh, Toasterhead… great minds think alike.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — December 5, 2007 @ 11:44 pm
Indeed :)
December 5th, 2007 at 11:58 pmThey misunderestimated me.
G.W. Bush * Bentonville, Arkansas (November 6, 2000)
The guy really should learn English before he defends himself in court.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:08 amIn any conflict, your fate will depend on your action. Do not destroy oil wells, a source of wealth that belongs to the Iraqi people. Do not obey any command to use weapons of mass destruction against anyone, including the Iraqi people. War crimes will be prosecuted. War criminals will be punished. And it will be no defense to say, “I was just following orders.”
G.W. Bush * speaking directly to the Iraqi people during a national address, 2003-03-17
Let us hope these words turn out to be the truth.
G’night all.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:14 amAfter all he is the “War President”. Gag me with the constitution.
Bush/Cheney
Hague Trails ‘09
Buck Fush
December 6th, 2007 at 12:31 amSometimes I wonder if there is anything the current administration hasn’t lied about.
If they told me the sky is blue, I’d run outside to see for myself.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:34 amThis is just amazing. This lying sack of shit has done nothing his entire time in office than lie lie and lie again. When the f#$k will he be impeached. What the f@#k does Ron Paul say about this. I refuse to vote for anyone who doesn’t say this ass should be impeached and that includes Ron Paul.
Kucinich, go ahead and impeach this chimp. enough is enough!!
December 6th, 2007 at 12:44 amHoward Dean just emailed me (personally I’m sure):
“Distortions and manipulation to promote a narrow ideological agenda is nothing new to the Bush Administration — it’s how they misled us into Iraq. This is the worst kind of leadership: a dishonest appeal our base emotions.”
asked me to sign a petition here:
http://www.democrats.org/HopeNotFear
And reminded us:
Rudy Giuliani: “Iran is nuclear threat, not just because they can deliver a nuclear warhead with missiles; they’re a nuclear threat because they are the biggest state sponsor of terrorism and they can hand nuclear materials to terrorists.”
Mitt Romney: “If for some reasons they continue down their course of folly toward nuclear ambition, then I would take military action if that’s available to us.”
Mike Huckabee: “A President has to do whatever is necessary to protect the American people. If we think Iran is building nuclear capacity that could be used against us in any way, including selling some of the nuclear capacity to some other terrorist group, then yes we have a right [to attack]. I would do it in a heartbeat. “
December 6th, 2007 at 12:45 amNot very Christian of Pastor Huckabee I might add.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:49 amAs if Huckabee is a Christian….
December 6th, 2007 at 12:50 amHey Zooey. That’s what he says. He also said he didn’t hear about the NIE because he cannot afford a large team of advisers. I managed and I don’t have a single adviser.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:55 amToo bad W didn’t stay longer in Omaha today. He could have gone shopping or something.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:58 amSpeaker Pelosi and John Conyers are OK with this latest bump in the Constitutional road. So are the democratic presidential candidates. (except the honorable Dennis Kucinich). They all make noise, of course, but they’re also all mouth.
We the people are powerless before the organized political racketeers of the republican and democratic parties. They are each utterly corrupt. Not simply in the conventional sense of worshipping mammon, either. Appallingly, they are corrupt when the issue is war and peace.
This nation was Big lied into unleashing war upon the people’s of Iraq nearly five years ago. The same people, using the same tactics, have once again attempted to stampede us into yet another war.
But for all the democrats seemingly care, the issue may as well be an interstate transportation bill. Just who is calling the shots in that party anyway?
December 6th, 2007 at 1:08 amHere is the deal, folks.
Something has Busch by the balls; why else are they telling us now about a ’suspended program’ of nuclear production. ? Busch could have kept that under wraps.
No; I think Iran is on the verge of ‘testing’ a thermo nuclear device, and this is Busch’s way of putting it off until he is out of office and then blaming it all on faulty intelligence-again-’just like Iraq’.
WHY DID BUSCH BACK DOWN FROM IRAN ??
∞
December 6th, 2007 at 2:04 amTIME FOR IMPEACHMENT OF BUSH AND CHENNEY IS LONG OVER DUE! THE ADMINISTRATION HAS TO BE INVESTIGATED ABOUT THIS, ABOUT IRAQ AND ABOUT 9/11! HAGE 09!!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 2:06 amWe keep looking at and talking about Bush. He’s dumb, incompetent etc. and he lies. This is not about one man in the WH who lies. Everything he does and says is thought out, vetted and approved by a group of people in advance of him ever opening his sock puppet mouth. Bush is only the front man for the people controlling him (with his acquiescence and approval of course.) Bush takes the heat but its BushCo that calls the shots.
December 6th, 2007 at 2:11 am#66 Comment by Billy Hill — December 6, 2007 @ 1:58 am
As Progressive Pacifist I have managed to remove all emotion from my body there for I can accept and be satisfied with what ever happens in the world.
You are not a pacifist in the real sense of the word. You are also not a progressive! What you are is dead to the world. You need to be in therapy.
I have no feelings of hate, angst, envy and all that drives others to do and say foolish things. I accept, no, welcome what ever happens with open arms. So if Iran is or is not building a nucular bomb it matters not to me. If half the world is blown up I could not care less.
Actually, if this is how you really feel, (no feelings of caring for others, compassion, empathy) you are insane.
Mike Huckabee can do or say what ever he wants….so what? Hillary, O’ Bomba, John Edwardscissor hands…..who cares. I am in a state of euphoria and its all natural.
Euphoria?? Well, you should be careful of how much of that drug you are taking. And how do you get it past the authorities outside the rubber room you call home?
December 6th, 2007 at 2:21 amComment by Billy Hill — December 6, 2007 @ 2:32 am
Babble on in your happy state BH. Oh, and do you always come to this board in your present state. One would think so, judging from your posts. And yes, you do need therapy. I feel for you dude.
December 6th, 2007 at 2:36 aman operational nuclear warhead.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 2:37 am
And you, of course, are a non-operational D*ckhead…
Nice Jingle Ballsâ„¢. So good of you ta spread yer holidaze cheer wherever ya go, ya worthless, lying sack of cheney.
December 6th, 2007 at 2:44 amComment by Billy Hill — December 6, 2007 @ 2:32 am
You know the rules, Hillybilly. The grown ups are talking “adult stuff” right now. Back under the double wide. There’s a nice, chilled bottle of T-bird juuuust waitin’ fer ya.
December 6th, 2007 at 2:46 amHow interesting. The only time the resident trolls will come out is when traffic is low. I guess that means they’re simply too embarrassed out come in broad daylight anymore.
I mean, how could you possibly defend Herr Brusch anymore WITHOUT feeling like a completely used tool?
December 6th, 2007 at 2:48 amThe WH must have assessed that the facts were soon to come out surrounding the time frame of Bush being told. They decided on a pre-emptive strike. Still does not exonerate Bush, though. To steal a bit from Bush’s press conference:
December 6th, 2007 at 3:06 amHe is lying. Has lied. And will lie. And if allowed to continue to develop lies will eventually use them and the result will be a smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud.
The one preceeding me.Tool.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:39 amCreamPuffer,
December 6th, 2007 at 4:17 amHow come Sy Hersh had the intelligence November 2006 and our president just got it November 28,2007? Doesn’t really make any sense unless you assume:
a) our president is lying
or
b) His handlers really, really keep him in the dark!!!
Comment by CreamPuffer— December 6, 2007 @ 3:52 am
I remember for eight years Hillary was damned if she didn’t bake cookies and damned when she did; damned if she stood by her man and damned if she didn’t; damned if she wore a dress and damned if she wore a pants suit. That was during the eight years of relative peace and prosperity. Before Republicans led us into a war bleeding our Army, Marines, National Guard, Reserves, and budget.
December 6th, 2007 at 4:24 amComment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 2:37 am
Bush is a congenital liar. Anyone who tries to spin it otherwise just comes off looking like a fool, or a liar themself.
December 6th, 2007 at 5:03 amhttp://rinf.com/alt-news/911-truth/ex-italian-president-911-an-inside-jo b/1899/
Ex-Italian President: Intel Agencies Know 9/11 An Inside Job
Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet
Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio Francesco Cossiga has gone public on 9/11, telling Italy’s most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.
Cossiga was elected President of the Italian Senate in July 1983 before winning a landslide 1985 election to become President of the country in 1985.
Cossiga gained respect from opposition parties as one of a rare breed – an honest politician – and led the country for seven years until April 1992.
Cossiga’s tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment and he was forced to resign after revealing the existence of, and his part in setting up, Operation Gladio – a rogue intelligence network under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s.
Gladio’s specialty was to carry out what they coined “false flag operations,” terror attacks that were blamed on their domestic and geopolitical opposition.
Cossiga’s revelations contributed to an Italian parliamentary investigation of Gladio in 2000, during which evidence was unearthed that the attacks were being overseen by the U.S. intelligence apparatus.
In March 2001, Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated, in sworn testimony, “You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force … the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security.”
Cossiga’s new revelations appeared last week in Italy’s oldest and most widely read newspaper, Corriere della Sera. Below appears a rough translation.
“[Bin Laden supposedly confessed] to the Qaeda September [attack] to the two towers in New York [claiming to be] the author of the attack of the 11, while all the [intelligence services] of America and Europe … now know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the CIA American and the Mossad with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part … in Iraq [and] Afghanistan.”
Cossiga first expressed his doubts about 9/11 in 2001, and is quoted in Webster Tarpley’s book as stating that “The mastermind of the attack must have been a “sophisticated mind, provided with ample means not only to recruit fanatic kamikazes, but also highly specialized personnel. I add one thing: it could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and flight security personnel.”
Coming from a widely respected former head of state, Cossiga’s assertion that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job and that this is common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies is highly unlikely to be mentioned by any establishment media outlets, because like the hundreds of other sober ex-government, military, air force professionals, allied to hundreds more professors and intellectuals – he can’t be sidelined as a crackpot conspiracy theorist.
December 6th, 2007 at 5:45 amIn compiling this year’s list, I had the highest number of entries for the category, “Biggest Lie.†I chose the White House declaration that Karl Rove and Scooter Libby had nothing to do with leaking the identity of a covert CIA agent. They were the principal participants in the effort to discredit former ambassador Joe Wilson because he had raised doubts about one of the pillars of their argument for war, namely that Iraq had tried to buy yellowcake uranium to make a bomb.
Another favorite—heard all the time from the White House—is that “everybody saw the same intelligence we did.†Members of Congress don’t see the President’s Daily Briefing (one of them was the glossed-over pre-9/11 document that warned “Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the U.S.â€), and they didn’t see all the qualifying caveats about Iraq’s alleged weapons of mass destruction, or the doubts about the credibility of the sources the administration was relying on.
Bush is good at stating the obviously untrue. “We do not torture,†he declared despite ample evidence to the contrary from Abu Ghraib to Guantanamo to secret prisons in Eastern Europe. Vice President Cheney went to Capitol Hill repeatedly to lobby for the U.S. right to torture, capitulating only when the vote went against him 90 to 9. Sen. John McCain, who was tortured when held prisoner during the Vietnam War, took on Bush’s No. 2 and stood up for democratic principles. It’s a wonder Cheney has any credibility left after assuring the country in May, “the insurgency is in its last throes.â€
The revelation that President Bush authorized spying on American citizens without warrants is a late entry to the year’s “Biggest Lies†list. Bush says he bypassed the law because of the need for speed. He may believe that, but the facts say otherwise.
In compiling this year’s list, I had the highest number of entries for the category, “Biggest Lie.†I chose the White House declaration that Karl Rove and Scooter Libby had nothing to do with leaking the identity of a covert CIA agent. They were the principal participants in the effort to discredit former ambassador Joe Wilson because he had raised doubts about one of the pillars of their argument for war, namely that Iraq had tried to buy yellowcake uranium to make a bomb.
Another favorite—heard all the time from the White House—is that “everybody saw the same intelligence we did.†Members of Congress don’t see the President’s Daily Briefing (one of them was the glossed-over pre-9/11 document that warned “Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the U.S.â€), and they didn’t see all the qualifying caveats about Iraq’s alleged weapons of mass destruction, or the doubts about the credibility of the sources the administration was relying on.
Bush is good at stating the obviously untrue. “We do not torture,†he declared despite ample evidence to the contrary from Abu Ghraib to Guantanamo to secret prisons in Eastern Europe. Vice President Cheney went to Capitol Hill repeatedly to lobby for the U.S. right to torture, capitulating only when the vote went against him 90 to 9. Sen. John McCain, who was tortured when held prisoner during the Vietnam War, took on Bush’s No. 2 and stood up for democratic principles. It’s a wonder Cheney has any credibility left after assuring the country in May, “the insurgency is in its last throes.â€
The revelation that President Bush authorized spying on American citizens without warrants is a late entry to the year’s “Biggest Lies†list. Bush says he bypassed the law because of the need for speed. He may believe that, but the facts say otherwise.
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2005/12/why_oh_why_cant_8.html
December 6th, 2007 at 5:48 amBIGGEST BUSH LIE:
Interview of the President by TVP, Poland
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
May 29, 2003
Interview of the President by TVP, Poland
The Library
2:28 P.M. EDT
Q And aren’t you afraid that we may fail in Iraq, or are you absolutely sure that you made the right decision?
THE PRESIDENT: I’m absolutely sure I made the right decision.
Q Why?
THE PRESIDENT: Because I’ve seen the Polish troops in action. And I know President Kwasniewski and I know the spirit of the Polish people. And there’s no doubt in my mind that Poland will be able to accomplish the objectives we set out together.
And it was also — the critics need to watch very carefully what’s happening. NATO is going to support the Polish efforts inside of Iraq. Poland will not be alone. Poland will have plenty of support. Poland is a member of this coalition of the willing, who stood up for freedom and stood up for peace and stood up for security. And Poland also recognizes that there’s more work to do. And I’m — also I’m going to Poland to thank the Polish people for caring about freedom in other parts of the world.
Q But, still, those countries who didn’t support the Iraqi Freedom operation use the same argument, weapons of mass destruction haven’t been found. So what argument will you use now to justify this war?
THE PRESIDENT: We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories. You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said, Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons. They’re illegal. They’re against the United Nations resolutions, and we’ve so far discovered two. And we’ll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven’t found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they’re wrong, we found them. “
for those who say we haven’t found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they’re wrong, we found them.
for those who say we haven’t found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they’re wrong, we found them.
for those who say we haven’t found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they’re wrong, we found them.
December 6th, 2007 at 5:50 amThese Bush lies tie DIRECTLY to both the AIPAC / Franklin Spy Trial AND the outing of Brewster Jennings as an undercover spy shop – with specific knowledge of Iran’s nuclear capabilities.
The word CONSPIRACY actually DEFINES this cabal’s actions.
CONNECT THE DOTS – IT’S CALLED CONSPIRACY IN A COURT OF LAW:
AIPAC SPY SCANDAL:
CONSPIRACY TO COMMUNICATE CLASSIFIED INFORMATION TO AGENT OF FOREIGN GOVERNMENT
1. Defendant LAWRENCE ANTHONY FRANKLIN was employed by the United States government at the Department of Defense (DoD) in the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD), International Security Affairs (ISA), Office of Near East and South Asia, Office of Northern Gulf Affairs, Iran desk, and held a Top Secret security clearance with access to Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI). FRANKLIN’S office was located within the Pentagon, in the Eastern District of Virginia. FRANKLIN was also a Colonel in the United States Air Force Reserve (USAFR).
2. Throughout his employment with the United States government, FRANKLIN repeatedly signed written agreements acknowledging his duty to safeguard classified information
3. At no time was FRANKLIN authorized to release classified information to ROSEN and WEISMANN except with respect to Overt Acts 43 and 44 in count one.
4. Defendant STEVEN J. ROSEN was employed as the Director of Foreign Policy Issues for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) in Washington, D.C. ROSEN was hired by AIPAC in or about July 1982. AIPAC, according to its website, is ” America’s ProIsrael Lobby.” AIPAC lobbies the U.S. Congress and Executive Branch agencies on various issues related to Israel and U.S. Foreign policy in the Middle East. As the Director of Foreign Policy Issues, ROSEN lobbied on behalf of AIPAC, primarily with officials within the Executive Branch of the U.S. government. During the time period of this indictment, ROSEN did not have a U.S. government security clearance and was not authorized to receive or possess U.S. government classified information.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/reports/2005/franklin_indictment_04aug2005.htm
WAYS, MANNER AND MEANS OF THE CONSPIRACY
A. It was part of the conspiracy that, in an effort to influence persons within and outside the United States government, ROSEN and WEISSMAN would cultivate relationships with FRANKLIN and others and would use their contacts within the U.S. government and elsewhere to gather sensitive U.S. government information, including classified information relating to the national defense, for subsequent unlawful communication, delivery and transmission to persons not entitled to receive it.
B. It was further part of the conspiracy that FRANKLIN would use his position as a desk officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense to gather information relating to the national defense, for subsequent unlawful communication, delivery and transmission to ROSEN and WEISSMAN and others not entitled to receive it.
C. It was further part of the conspiracy that FRANKLIN, ROSEN and WEISSMAN would meet at locations in the Eastern District of Virginia and elsewhere, to exchange information, including classified information relating to the national defense.
D. It was further part of the conspiracy that FRANKLIN would unlawfully deliver, communicate and transmit classified national defense information in an effort to advance his own personal foreign policy agenda and influence persons within and outside the United States government.
E. It was further part of the conspiracy that ROSEN and WEISSMAN, without lawful authority, would communicate to persons not entitled to receive it, classified information relating to the national defense.
On or about June 11, 1999, WEISSMAN had a conversation with FO-1 and told FO-1 that a “Secret FBI, classified FBI report” on the Khobar Towers bombing had been prepared and that he (WEISSMAN) had gotten this information from three different sources, including United States government officials.
On or about March 13, 2003 , WEISSMAN had a separate conversation with FO-1. WEISSMAN asked FO-1, “Have you talked to Steve about Iran lately?” WEISSMAN related that “we” had heard from a “friend of ours in the Pentagon” about a national intelligence document. WEISSMAN discussed specifics about the classified draft internal policy document and the internal deliberations of United States government officials.
On or about March 18, 2003 , in a conversation with a member of the media about the classified draft internal policy document, ROSEN stated, “I’m not supposed to know this,” and that it was a “considerable story.” He encouraged the member of the media to pursue the story.
POPPY BUSH SAID IT HIMSELF – BUT NOW HE IS AMONG THE LEADING LEADING CRIMINALS IN THIS PARTICULAR CONSPIRACY:
“I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious, of traitors.” Former President George H. W. Bush 4/26/99
December 6th, 2007 at 5:57 amA N T H R A X
U S E D
A G A I N S T
P O L I T I C A L
E N E M I E S
The repeated lie that “we haven’t been attacked here since 9/11″ is absurd.
The Anthrax attacks instilled at least as much fear in the American public as did 9/11.
Rumsfeld and Cheney made it happen, all under the direction of the REAL PRESIDENT, GW’s Father, Bush 41.:
The anthrax lead RIGHT BACK to the same place the 9/11 funding eventually lead back to: the bowels of the US government. It was PROVEN by the FBI that the anthrax originated from a secret army lab in Fort Dietrich maryland. Funny how the White House was put on Cipro on 9/10 by the same guy (Jerry Hauer) who sent FBI agent John O’neil to die in the towers.
F L A S H B A C K:
Conspiracy Flashback to the Ford Administration – and look who is running the ANTHRAX coverup…
http://www.frankolsonproject.org/Articulations/Script-CodeNameArtichoke.html
The conspiracy originated at the top, in the White House, initiated by Donald Rumsfeld and Richard Cheney. It had just been learned that the CIA allegedly drugged its employee Frank Olson with LSD before his supposed suicide.
Rumsfeld and Cheney, heads of the White House chiefs of staff, at the time recommended to President Gerald Ford that he apologize to the family in the name of the government, and to support retribution. In order to prevent worse things from happening. That’s the content of this White House memo:
49.21 “There (is…) the possibility that it might be necessary to disclose highly classified national security information in connection with any court suit or legislative hearings.”
49.38 Ten days later, Ford hosted the Olson family and apologized. This allowed him to remain silent about state secrets – and the true reasons for Frank Olson’s death.
49.52 Voice of Eric Olson “What this means for me is that a national security homicide is not only a possibility, but really it is a necessity, when you have a certain number of ingredients together.
If you are doing top secret work that is immoral, arguably immoral, especially in the post-Nuremberg period, and arguably illegal, and at odds with the kind of high moral position you are trying to maintain in the world, then you have to have a mechanism of security which is going to include murder.”
50.26 The two politicians who collaborated in the conspiracy in 1975, Rumsfeld and Cheney, are back in power. As vice president and secretary of defense of the government of the United States.
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This WMR story is revealing:
Sep. 17-18, 2006 — SPECIAL REPORT.
http://waynemadsenreport.com/
GHW Bush and Chertoff are the ingredients in the story that should be the focus of serious investigation.
CHERTOFF IS THE TOP ISRAELI SPY IN THE US.
It was Chertoff who demanded of Fitzgerald back in 1993 to keep Bin Laden’s name out of the initial WTC bombing case, and further, it was Chertoff who protected a known bin Laden financier. Even though the Bergen Record newspaper had published the facts of the case in a series of articles. This news was never picked up nationally.
Chertoff is the most powerful man within the US Government. Cheney coordinates the goals of GHW Bush with Chertoff.
The story notes that the first WTC attack occured (suspiciously) immediately after Clinton took office.
What was the message, and who was sending it? Who was pissed and vindictive enough to order it?
GHW Bush – in concert with his CIA drug-running business partner – the Mossad. Pakistan’s ISI is a division of Mossad. When you see “Pakistan” – think “Israel.”
It was Chertoff who was assigned the task of spiriting the five Mossad agents out of the US after they were caught on 9/11.
It was Chertoff who was tasked with the responsibility to cover the money trail of 9/11 – (Operation GreenQuest).
It was Chertoff’s cousin who penned the purportedly definitive 9/11 debunking hit piece for Popular Mechanics.
There is no longer any question that Chertoff is the leading agent for Israel in the United States.
Gonzales did not act on his own when he went to Fitzgerald to blackmail him into burying the Rove indictment. Chertoff ordered Gonzales to do it, and it was Chertoff who had all of the evidence with which to blackmail Fitzgerald.
Fitzgerald knows for a fact that it is Chertoff who is behind this blackmail, as Chertoff was the only one who had the inside information that Gonzales revealed to Fitzgerald.
Chertoff is directly guilty of both Blackmail AND Obstruction of Justice – to say nothing of Espionage.
It’s no wonder that the DHS and FEMA were incapable of responding to Katrina – when all of their resources and focus are directed toward covering up the largest conspiracy in the history off the United States.
The Bush 41 / Mossad Drug Cartel is the number one problem plaguing this country, and has been since before the Iran Contra Scandal broke. Their flights into Florida on US Government Private Jets laden with Cocaine continue to this day – every day. CIA, FBI and Secret Service all are in on it. They are literally untouchable. GHW Bush is still running that entire operation.
It is Spy Vs. Spy and literally EVERYONE is being blackmailed by someone.
All of this drug money is used to finance every nefarious scheme the globalists can concoct.
GHW Bush is the one calling all the shots. Israel has double-crossed him and threatens him with blackmail – Nuclear Blackmail. Above Bush 41, the Crown.
It the crimes of Bush 41 and Chertoff are revealed, the entire suit starts to unravel.
GW Bush is nothing but the front man – the puppet.
Chertoff and Poppy pull all the strings.
Lieberman works for Chertoff.
The US is fully infiltrated by Israel.
Lamont threatens their lock on the US Government.
By revealing Israel’s strangehold on US Media, US Government, and US Policy, the American people can decide to vote out the compromised treasonous incumbents and PURGE the system of graft and corruption.
The FCC needs to be back in the control of US citizens in order to put the interests of the US above Israel.
THROWN THE SPIES IN JAIL.
START WITH CHERTOFF.
CBS News ran a story recently on the ANTHRAX ATTACKS of five years ago. Their newscast states that there are no leads, and the FBI is considering designating the attacks a “COLD CASE.”
Dr. Zack did it. It was US DOD Anthrax.
Daschle knows the whole truth.
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Anthrax Investigation A ‘Cold Case?’
5 Years, 53,000 Leads, 5,000 Subpoenas Later, FBI Has Nothing On Attacks
WASHINGTON, Sept. 18, 2006
Investigators look for evidence in the anthrax case. (CBS)
Quote
“There are times that we may know a lot about a crime or an event that occurred, but we may not have the admissible evidence that we need to prove it in court.”
Secretary Chertoff
(CBS) Three years ago, FBI agents slogged through the woods to a fishing pond in suburban Maryland, where they hoped to find the hidden lab equipment used in the 2001 anthrax attacks. But, as CBS News correspondent Jim Stewart reports, they pumped the pond dry and even sifted through the mud at the bottom … and found nothing
Five years, 53,000 leads, and 6,000 subpoenas after those attacks, they still have no arrests.
Things are so cold, law enforcement officials tell CBS News, that barring the discovery of new evidence, the anthrax investigation could be declared a “Cold Case” and put in the inactive files.
So who did it? Former Attorney General John Ashcroft once singled out Dr. Steven Hatfill, a bioweapons specialist, as a “person of interest.” But there have been no charges.
Former FBI counter-terrorism executive and now CBS News consultant Mike Rolince says no case has frustrated the FBI more.
“We now know that someone, or ones, can conduct an attack like this and for least the first five years, get away with it,” Rolince says.
The FBI says it remains committed to solving the crime. In a written statement, Joseph Persichini, Jr., acting assistant director of the FBI’s Washington field office said: “Today, the FBI’s commitment to solving this case is undiminished … While no arrests have been made, the dedicated investigators who have worked tirelessly on this case, day-in and day-out, continue to go the extra mile in pursuit of every lead.”
The bureau never had more than scant physical evidence, like the envelopes the anthrax was mailed in, and the terse letters inside – “Death to America” read one – and the spores themselves. But they were never able to trace the anthrax back to the attacker.
“It’s true that a vast majority of the investigation early on was figuring out the science,” Rolince says.
Nor did the administration ever entirely figure out what to do in case of another such attack. Despite a $5.6 billion effort to stockpile vaccines, just a small amount is available. Only the Pentagon has enough on hand for the troops.
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff hints no one may ever be indicted.
“There are times that we may know a lot about a crime or an event that occurred, but we may not have the admissible evidence that we need to prove it in court,” Chertoff says.
But the thinking among investigators is more stark: If we can’t agree among ourselves who did it, they reason, how could we ever convince a jury?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/18/eveningnews/main2019769.shtml
C O L D
C A S E?
T R Y
C O V E R U P
Anthrax Investigation A ‘Cold Case?’
5 Years, 53,000 Leads, 5,000 Subpoenas Later, FBI Has Nothing On Attacks
WASHINGTON, Sept. 18, 2006
Investigators look for evidence in the anthrax case. (CBS)
Quote
“There are times that we may know a lot about a crime or an event that occurred, but we may not have the admissible evidence that we need to prove it in court.”
Secretary Chertoff
(CBS) Three years ago, FBI agents slogged through the woods to a fishing pond in suburban Maryland, where they hoped to find the hidden lab equipment used in the 2001 anthrax attacks. But, as CBS News correspondent Jim Stewart reports, they pumped the pond dry and even sifted through the mud at the bottom … and found nothing
Five years, 53,000 leads, and 6,000 subpoenas after those attacks, they still have no arrests.
Things are so cold, law enforcement officials tell CBS News, that barring the discovery of new evidence, the anthrax investigation could be declared a “Cold Case” and put in the inactive files.
So who did it? Former Attorney General John Ashcroft once singled out Dr. Steven Hatfill, a bioweapons specialist, as a “person of interest.” But there have been no charges.
Former FBI counter-terrorism executive and now CBS News consultant Mike Rolince says no case has frustrated the FBI more.
“We now know that someone, or ones, can conduct an attack like this and for least the first five years, get away with it,” Rolince says.
The FBI says it remains committed to solving the crime. In a written statement, Joseph Persichini, Jr., acting assistant director of the FBI’s Washington field office said: “Today, the FBI’s commitment to solving this case is undiminished … While no arrests have been made, the dedicated investigators who have worked tirelessly on this case, day-in and day-out, continue to go the extra mile in pursuit of every lead.”
The bureau never had more than scant physical evidence, like the envelopes the anthrax was mailed in, and the terse letters inside – “Death to America” read one – and the spores themselves. But they were never able to trace the anthrax back to the attacker.
“It’s true that a vast majority of the investigation early on was figuring out the science,” Rolince says.
Nor did the administration ever entirely figure out what to do in case of another such attack. Despite a $5.6 billion effort to stockpile vaccines, just a small amount is available. Only the Pentagon has enough on hand for the troops.
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff hints no one may ever be indicted.
“There are times that we may know a lot about a crime or an event that occurred, but we may not have the admissible evidence that we need to prove it in court,” Chertoff says.
But the thinking among investigators is more stark: If we can’t agree among ourselves who did it, they reason, how could we ever convince a jury?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/18/eveningnews/main2019769.shtml
December 6th, 2007 at 5:59 amPTECH’s Kobi Alexander – 9/11 Kingpin.
His company “ODIGO” gave the early warning to Israeli Nationals on the morning of 9/11 to steer clear of the Twin Towers.
His other company PTECH developed software based on “PROMIS” which Cheney used to blind NORAD & the FAA on the morning of 9/11.
Alexander is said to have fled the country. It is claimed that he is in Namibia (of all places)
Oct. 23, 2006 13:14
US submits extradition request for Kobi Alexander
The United States submitted a request to Namibia on Monday for the extradition of fugitive Comverse CEO Ya’akov (Kobi) Alexander.
The request came four days before the official cutoff date for such an appeal. Namibia’s justice minister was expected to convene an emergency discussion on the extradition request on Tuesday.
Alexander, who was accused in a multimillion-dollar stock manipulating scheme, was released on bail earlier this month by a Namibian judge. The Namibian government said at the time that it opposed bail pending a formal extradition request from the US, according to Justice Ministry official Dennis Khama.
Earlier, US Attorney Roslynn Mauskopf said that she would seek Alexander’s swift extradition to face charges in federal court in Brooklyn.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1159193501620&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
HERE’S THE TRUTH:
ALEXANDER IS A MOSSAD OPERATIVE WHO WORKED HAND-IN-HAND WITH GHW BUSH AND CHENEY TO IMPLEMENT 9/11.
ALEXANDER IS ACUALLY ALREADY IN THE UNITED STATES (AND HAS BEEN FOR WEEKS) IN THE WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM.
WHY?
UNDER WHOSE CARE?
WHY IS THE US GOVERNMENT PROTECTING A MOSSAD AGENT HERE IN AMERICA IN THE WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM?
BECAUSE CHENEY DID 9/11.
ISRAEL’S MOSSAD HELPED.
AGENT CHERTOFF IS COVERING IT UP.
IMPEACH.
CHENEY HAS KOBI ALEXANDER SEQUESTERED IN THE WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM TO PROTECT THE ADMINISTRATION’S DIRECT ROLE IN 9/11.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm
THIS WAS ALEXANDER’S OPERATION – ALONG WITH DOV ZAKHEIM.
According to the US Government’s own website which is specifically designed to debunk conspiracy theories:
http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jun/28-581634.html
With regard to the World Trade Center attacks, Mr. Meyssan ignores or dismisses the facts that:
“THE GOVERNMENT DECLARES):
“Boeing commercial aircraft can not be remotely controlled”
This assertion is false.
Dov Zakheim was the Pentagon’s comptroller and CFO during 9/11. Over $2 trillion is unaccounted for during his tenure. He was (is?) Corporate VP at System Planning Corporation, a major player in the “Homeland Security” industry. One of the products that SysPlan sells is the Command Transmitter System, a remote control system for planes, boats, missiles and other vehicles. It’s highly customable and configurable to interface with an almost limitless number of vehicle types.
The CTS is a tunable UHF FM transmitter designed for ground use in controlling guided missiles, pilotless aircraft and pilotless boats.
Many takeoff and lending tests were performed using this system on a commercial size Boeing aircraft under the supervision of Raytheon in the days prior to 9/11.
Missing Trillions
Rumsfeld Buries Admission of Missing 2+ Trillion Dollars in 9/10/01 Press Conference
On September 10, 2001, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld held a press conference to disclose that over $2,000,000,000,000 in Pentagon funds could not be accounted for. Rumsfeld stated: “According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions.”
Such a disclosure normally would have sparked a huge scandal. However, the commencement of the attack on New York City and Washington in the morning would assure that the story remained buried. To the trillions already missing from the coffers, an obedient Congress terrorized by anthrax attacks would add billions more in appropriations to fight the “War on Terror.”
The Comptroller of the Pentagon at the time of the attack was Dov Zakheim, who was appointed in May of 2001. Before becoming the Pentagon’s money-manager, he was an executive at System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor specializing in electronic warfare technologies including remote-controlled aircraft systems. Zakheim is a member of the Project for a New American Century and participated in the creation of its 2000 position paper Rebuilding America’s Defenses which called for “a New Pearl Harbor.”
http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/trillions.html
Dov Zakheim stole $2 TRILLION from you.
His company (Sysplan) made the technology (Flight Termination System) that was utilized on 9/11 to guide planes to their targets.
Flight 77 was shadowed (within just a few feet) on 9/11 enroute to the Pentagon by a Raytheon A-3 Skywarrior powered by a Thiokol motor and equipped with bombs.
When you see the new video of the Pentagon attack – the white smoke is from the Thiokol motor of the A-3. NO 757 hit the Pentagon. Period.
AA flight 77 crashed short of the Pentagon in Virginia and was quietly cleaned up. The A-3 continued the mission and THAT is what you see slamming into the Pentagon.
Nearly EVERYONE in the Pentagon and the White House and the Congress know this to be true.
They all know that 9/11 was an inside job.
All of them.
So does the media.
THIS EXPLAINS IT.
The type of aircraft and engines used to attack the Pentagon.
This shows the Raytheon connection to 9/11.
THE ANSWER:
http://www.rense.com/general70/safe.htm
December 6th, 2007 at 6:11 amPhilip Zelikow – PsyOps Operative
http://www.ichblog.eu/content/view/32/1/
The Bush administration is very serious about controlling information. That’s why they launched the Pentagon’s Dept of Strategic Information. The military is now deeply engaged in “full spectrum dominance†of all information technologies.
Consequently, “controlling the narrative†is more important than one might think. Propaganda is the cheapest and most effective way to control public behavior.
The Bush administration has made some notable contributions to the traditional propaganda-paradigm. In fact, former Counselor at the State Dept, Philip Zelikow, (who was also executive director of the 9-11 Commission) is an expert in “the creation and maintenance of ‘public myths’ or ‘public presumptions’, which he defines as beliefs thought to be true although not necessarily known to be true with certainty, shared in common with the relevant political community. He has taken a special interest in ‘searing’ or ‘molding’ events that take on ‘transcendent’ importance and, therefore, retain there power even as the experiencing generation passes from the sceneâ€.
“In the Nov-Dec 1998 issue of Foreign Affairs he co-authored an article called ‘Catastrophic Terrorism’ in which he speculated that if the 1993 bombing of the World Trade center had succeeded ‘the resulting horror and chaos would have exceeded our ability to describe it. Such an act of catastrophic terrorism would be a watershed event in American history. ‘It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America’s fundamental sense of security. The US might respond with draconian measures scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects and use of deadly force.
The previous paragraph is WRITTEN IN 1998!?! 3 YEARS BEFORE 9-11!
Where, one might ask, did Zelikow get his crystal ball?
Isn’t this the exact blueprint for what is taking place right now?
Zelikow has figured out that the real essence of controlling behavior is not simply “propagating†ideas but understanding how humans process information.
Both 9-11 and the blowing up of the Golden dome Mosque are examples of how this theory works.
December 6th, 2007 at 6:14 amThe Christian Zionists are hell bent on bringing about Agmagedon:
On July 16, I attended Christians United for Israel’s annual Washington-Israel Summit. Founded by San Antonio-based megachurch pastor John Hagee, CUFI has added the grassroots muscle of the Christian right to the already potent Israel lobby. Hagee and his minions have forged close ties with the Bush White House and members of Congress from Sen. Joseph Lieberman to Sen. John McCain. In its call for a unilateral military attack on Iran and the expansion of Israeli territory, CUFI has found unwavering encouragement from traditional pro-Israel groups like AIPAC and elements of the Israeli government.
But CUFI has an ulterior agenda: its support for Israel derives from the belief of Hagee and his flock that Jesus will return to Jerusalem after the battle of Armageddon and cleanse the earth of evil. In the end, all the non-believers – Jews, Muslims, Hindus, mainline Christians, etc. – must convert or suffer the torture of eternal damnation. Over a dozen CUFI members eagerly revealed to me their excitement at the prospect of Armageddon occurring tomorrow. Among the rapture ready was Republican Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay. None of this seemed to matter to Lieberman, who delivered a long sermon hailing Hagee as nothing less than a modern-day Moses. Lieberman went on to describe Hagee’s flock as “even greater than the multitude Moses commanded.”
Throughout CUFI’s Israel Summit, videographer Thomas Shomaker and I were hounded by PR agents seeking to prevent us from interviewing attendees about the End Times. The conference, we were told, was about “one message” – evangelical Christians supporting Israel. We were instructed to only interview CUFI leaders capable of sticking to the talking point that their support for Israel has, as Hagee declared, “nothing to do with the End Times.” But I was forbidden from asking Hagee about statements he made in his book, “Jerusalem Countdown,” that appeared to blame Jews for their own persecution. After doing just that during a press conference, I was removed from the conference by off-duty DC cops summoned by members of Hagee’s family.
I have covered the Christian right intensely for over four years. During this time, I attended dozens of Christian right conferences, regularly monitored movement publications and radio shows, and interviewed scores of its key leaders. I have never witnessed any spectacle as politically extreme, outrageous, or bizarre as the one Christians United for Israel produced last week in Washington. See for yourself.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/rapture-ready-the-unauth_b_57826.html
December 6th, 2007 at 6:15 amFAULTY MEMRI
HUDSON INSTITUTE…
Meyrav Wurmser, an opponent of the Oslo peace accords and a central neoconservative figure.
In 1996 she helped write “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm†and advised then-Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “to work closely with Turkey and Jordan to contain, destabilize, and roll-back†regional threats, help overthrow Saddam Hussein, and strike “Syrian military targets in Lebanon†and possibly in Syria proper. Coauthors of the report included Richard Perle, David Wurmser, and Douglas Feith.
She also cofounded with Yigal Carmon, a former colonel in the Israeli military intelligence, the Middle East Media and Research Institute (MEMRI).
According to her Hudson Institute bio, Wurmser “helped to educate policymakers about the Palestinian Authority two-track approach to ‘negotiating peace’ with Israel: calling for peace in the English press and with western policymakers while inciting hatred and violence through official Arab language media.â€
Although it describes itself as “non-partisan,†MEMRI–which has offices in London, Washington, Jerusalem, and Berlin–has frequently been accused of being nothing more than a propaganda outfit of Israeli intelligence.
According the Guardian, which dug up deleted pages from MEMRI’s web site through the internet archive, “Retrieving another now-deleted page from the archives of Memri’s website also throws up a list of its staff. Of the six people named, three–including [Yigal] Carmon–are described as having worked for Israeli intelligence. Among the other three, one served in the Israeli army’s Northern Command Ordnance Corps.â€
The Guardian’s Brian Whitaker also reported: “Although Memri claims that it does provide translations from Hebrew media, I can’t recall receiving any. Evidence from Memri’s website also casts doubt on its non-partisan status.
Besides supporting liberal democracy, civil society, and the free market, the institute also emphasises ‘the continuing relevance of Zionism to the Jewish people and to the state of Israel’. That is what its website used to say, but the words about Zionism have now been deleted. The original page, however, can still be found in internet archives.â€
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1394
December 6th, 2007 at 6:17 amAny questions about WTC 7 were answered by the owner himself when he confessed to ordering that the building be demolished on PBS:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329&q=silverstein&hl=en
When you have the man himself admitting on camera that he ordered the towers be “pulled” (down), it’s GAMEOVERVILLE.
Any demolitions expert will tell you that the building had to have been pre-wired weeks earlier – and it had to have been done secretively as well.
Unless we are all just supposed to shut off our collective ability to reason, there is only one conclusion that can be drawn.
The man ordered that his building be prepared for demolition prior to 9/11 – and then ordered it to happen at 3:00 – and watched it drop into its own footprint successfully – as planned – at 5:00.
There’s really nothing left to question about the matter.
He admitted it on camera – and you saw it fall on camera.
CONSPIRACY FACT.
THE PLANE THAT WAS PLANNED TO STRIKE WTC 7 WAS IN FACT THE PLANE THAT HAD TO BE SHOT DOWN OVER PENNSYLVANIA
DOES IT GET ANY MORE OBVIOUS?
3 BUILDING WERE WIRED WITH EXPLOSIVES, BUT ONLY TWO OF THE THREE PLANES REACHED THEIR TARGETS IN MANHATTAN.
WHAT TO DO?
“PULL IT!”
December 6th, 2007 at 6:20 amTHESE ARE THE VERY GUYS INVOLVED IN WIRING THE BUILDINGS FOR DEMOLITION PRIOR TO 9/11:
DANCING ISRAELIS – Best Link:
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2005/11/dancing-israelis-on-911.html
December 6th, 2007 at 6:22 amBush would be incompetent to be the President of the United States that you have in your mind.
That place does not exist.
He is not the President of anything.
He is playing his part.
He is doing precisely as his handlers instruct him.
Here in reality, things only appear to go wrong.
You’re using pre-9/11 thinking.
Since the Military Coup, reality has been stood on its head.
You will never make sense of anything using your pre-coup mind.
The media is just as controlled by the Government as was Pravda in the Soviet Union.
The illusion of incompetence is all by design.
Karl Rove is the ARCHITECT OF DISREALITY.
Here in reality:
KARL ROVE IS A TERRORIST
Colin Powell in four-letter neo-con ‘crazies’ row
Martin Bright
Sunday September 12, 2004
The Observer
A furious row has broken out over claims in a new book by BBC broadcaster James Naughtie that US Secretary of State Colin Powell described neo-conservatives in the Bush administration as ‘fu*king crazies’ during the build-up to war in Iraq.
Powell’s extraordinary outburst is alleged to have taken place during a telephone conversation with Foreign Secretary Jack Straw. The two became close friends during the intense negotiations in the summer of 2002 to build an international coalition for intervention via the United Nations. The ‘crazies’ are said to be Vice-President Dick Cheney, Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and his deputy, Paul Wolfowitz.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1302834,00.html...
Crazy enough to attack its own people?
According to Colin Powell, then US Secretary of State…the answer was a resounding:
“FU*KNG CRAZY!”
December 6th, 2007 at 6:25 amQuick note: Everything the 9/11 Truthers say has been thoroughly debunked. Here are three excellent 9/11 conspiracy debunking sites:
http://www.911myths.com/
December 6th, 2007 at 6:29 amhttp://www.debunking911.com/
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/home
I have chosen no sides. I do not side with Bush’s policies re: the war on terror. I am, however, wanting to hear some specific, concrete policies from the democrats as to how to deal with islamic terrorist groups and their enablers. Comments like, “well don’t invade Iraq,” or “Bush sucks” aren’t policy suggestions.
By: Gordon on August 15, 2006 at 01:26pm
OK, how about this:
Arrest the entire Bush Cabinet for Conspiracy to Commit Treason (manufacturing false evidence to justify the invasion of a sovereign nation), order all US troops withdrawn from Iraq immediately and apologize to the Arab world for allowing Israel to infiltrate the United States Government with spies and operatives bent on the destruction of the Arab world in order to fulfill the promise of “Eretz Israel” at the expense of the US Taxpayer and the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
How would that be for a start?
THERE IS NO “WAR ON TERROR”
ONLY A “WAR OF TERROR”
WILD CORNERED ANIMAL STAGE IS UPON US, AND VISIONS OF THE HAGUE ARE KEEPING THEM AWAKE AT NIGHT
WILL THEY LAUNCH THE FALSE FLAG NUCLEAR ATTACK TO SAVE THEIR OWN BACON?
December 6th, 2007 at 6:29 amIt’s easy, we don’t listen to the likes of bleeding heart whiners like you, preferring to think for ourselves and think rationally at the same time.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 3:15 am
Whiner?
HAH!!!
Everytime you mince onto the threads wearing yer Jingle Ballsâ„¢, I make people laugh at you. Yer a joke and you don’t even know it – a fully dysfunctional d*ckhead.
December 6th, 2007 at 6:44 amwow, for the White House to suddenly not cover Bush’s lies! Maybe they are covering their own ass since deleting email isn’t as easy as it used to be. Bushco is slowly being held accountable. When all the facts are known due to Democratic oversight, Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice will all end up in jail.
December 6th, 2007 at 7:00 amIran and many other countries have the knowledge to build nuclear weapons, and for a long time. It is widely available to any intelligent educated scientists and engineers. It is just stupid to say that they shouldn’t have the knowledge.
So many countries could make nukes if they had the material, industrial program, and desire.
December 6th, 2007 at 7:01 amIMPEACHMENT
Bush should have been impeached by now, but he has not. Now, we learn that he again lied to justify an attack on Iran.
THIS IS A HIGH CRIME !!! LET’S DO IT ALREADY !!!
December 6th, 2007 at 7:06 amThe only surprise here is that the White House announced the truth. We all knew that Bush lied and that Bush was given the details back in August. Guess Bush would rather be called a liar than called incompetent. Unfortunately, he is both.
December 6th, 2007 at 7:12 amUnfortunately, he is both.
Comment by Coffins Draped with a Flag — December 6, 2007 @ 7:12 am
So the most powerful man in the world… **cough**… is an incompetent, lying, dry drunk to whom God talks to personally. Great. No wonder I can’t sleep tonight.
December 6th, 2007 at 7:37 amMay i say just one thing? How frickin’ lucky are these idiots? They finally get into hot water in such a way that people were taking notice, and BAM another mall shooter. The NIE was completely gone from the news this morning, replaced on CNN by contiuous Omaha coverage complete with the “sad random massacre” tinkling piano music. Oh, and the President will be making a bold proposal to save the masses from defaulting on their mortgages! There you have both your bread and your circus–no need to cover any other stories.
December 6th, 2007 at 7:45 amMay i say just one thing? How frickin’ lucky are these idiots? They finally get into hot water in such a way that people were taking notice, and BAM another mall shooter. The NIE was completely gone from the news this morning, replaced on CNN by contiuous Omaha coverage complete with the “sad random massacre†tinkling piano music. Oh, and the President will be making a bold proposal to save the masses from defaulting on their mortgages! There you have both your bread and your circus–no need to cover any other stories.
Comment by Menehune — December 6, 2007 @
Too coincidental to be luck. Got fear?
December 6th, 2007 at 7:46 amThe worst administration in history and very little inclination to tell the truth on any subject! The worst thing is you can not get rid of him now because the Vice President is just as bad if not worse. The republican party is a sham also!
December 6th, 2007 at 7:51 amCaption:
Even a man who is pure at heart and says his prayers at night
December 6th, 2007 at 7:55 amMay become a wolf when the wolfsbane blooms and the autumn moon shines bright.
107…I don’t believe these people, who are absolutely and utterly incompetent at everything else, are capable of running such a vast and nefarious conspiracy…but sometimes you catch yourself wondering!
Anyhow, they don’t need to run any conspiracies. The Bush misadministration makes policies that channel the media companies a ton of money. They in turn have the ability to cover for Bush as needed. It is just an understood quid pro quo–there didn’t have to be an overt conspiracy.
December 6th, 2007 at 8:02 amImpeach. Kthxbai.
~Sean
December 6th, 2007 at 8:07 amAnyone that (all along) thought that anyone in the Bush Krime Family had an ounce of Integrity has their head up their ass!
December 6th, 2007 at 8:20 amThe all-knowing almighty Commander Guy’s biggest lie: I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
December 6th, 2007 at 8:38 amI smel desperation. When is 9/11 Pt. 2?
December 6th, 2007 at 8:42 amHey Bert,
Did bartlett tell you regurgitate that?
December 6th, 2007 at 8:51 amHey bert,
Did you meet ernie in the men’s room at the minnieapolis airport?
December 6th, 2007 at 8:55 amToo many lies to be able to remember the truth.
OT, but I’m so very curious: How many sentences has President Bush commuted since Scooter Libby’s?
December 6th, 2007 at 8:58 amPerry Logan: Nice try but most people already know the inevitable. Bush’s latest loss in credibility only brings the people closer to accepting the inevitable truth about 911 – that it was, indeed, an inside job.
Bush Senior has been behind everything dispicable and inauthentic in this country since his involvement in the murder of JFK while he was head of CIA. Nothing good can ever come of a foundation which is built on fiction and lies.
December 6th, 2007 at 8:58 amBert is OK with a President that lies. He will gladly back Hillary when she lies because he will know it’s for the good of the country. He is a proud American who KNOWS our leaders can do no wrong.
December 6th, 2007 at 8:58 amBert loves ernie, bert loves earnie, but they’re not gay. they’re conservative christain muppets who are fighting the islamotubbies!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:00 am#113 Looks like we’ve got the proof we need for impeachment which doesn’t have to occur while the man is still in office for it to be significant. This time he’s been nabbed breaking his oath of office. It’s over.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:00 amif Bush was told something in August, was it consistent with the July 2007 assessment, or consistent with the assessment that came out four months later?
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 6, 2007 @ 8:56 am
F OFF, dingelberry!!!
You make me wanna puke. You come here and spin like an F-in’ top trying to make this sh*t look like honey, and all you do is come across as totally deluded and desperate.
Hey, I got a good idea, try this line of crap on Scarborough and Buchanan. Even they’ve had enough of Herr Brusch’s gibberish, and you don’t get much more right wing than those two.
I’d warn you about stepping on yer own dick here, but that’d mean you’d have to have the shortest pair of legs ever seen on a troll.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:00 amHow the hell does this man sleep at night?
I wonder if he’s roaming the White House halls at night : drunk. I wonder if he has Nixonesque nights drunk (acutally) with paranoia.
Everyday he lives with being caught in a 8-year Web of Lies and Deciept.
Fasten your seatbelts.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:01 amAnd we all know who the most dangerous individuals are in this country right now – Chertoff and Lieberman.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:01 amcoldhardleft: Your quote is bogus. Get your sorry butt off these threads unless you have something knowledgeable to input.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:02 am*
Comment by BERT CONVY — December 6, 2007 @ 8:55 am
It’s hard to hear what yer sayin’ when yer mouf is full like that, Mr P.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:02 amNo wonder all the Rats have jumped ship.
Well most of them.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:02 amDon’t blame coldhardleft, he’s just regurgitating what the whitehouse tells him. It’s not like he’s capable of having a thought on his own or anything.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:03 amI missed this little item last night, so I realize I’m late to this thread. But this sentence caught my eye:
“On Tuesday, Bush said ‘nobody ever told me’ to back down from his hawkish rhetoric on Iran.”
And this one:
“And yet, he continued to warn of ‘World War III’ and a ‘nuclear holocaust’ because nobody told him specifically to stop.”
Does this strike anybody else as odd? That our president seemingly can’t even take a dump without somebody “specifically” telling him to do so?
When we have a president who openly gives excuses like “nobody ever told me”, we have traveled a long, long way from Truman’s “the buck stops here” sign on his desk. We’ve always known that we have a puppet sitting in the Oval Office — apparently now even Bush is admitting it.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:03 amKay: He looks like the wrath of god these days which is exactly what the stress caused by lying does to a person. Combine the alcoholic binges and blackouts and you’ve got a president who’s about to have a mental breakdown.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:03 amToo funny.. Where is the surprise here? There are entire BOOKS written on the lies of George Bush..
Comment by nwmuse
Here are 26 pages of Bush’s Lies.
http://tvnewslies.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2670&start=0
December 6th, 2007 at 9:06 amignore bert he’s just regurgitating the whitehouse talking points like a good muppet.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:07 ammissmolly: The nobody told me excuse is just another bush lie to the people to cover his butt. He’s the biggest pussy on the planet who can’t admit he is wrong or ever own up to anything. Of course, he knew about it the moment these 16 agencies began to assess their intel. And that was probably somewhere in 2005 since it took them a full year before the NIE report was prepared. This means that Bush knew since sometime in 2005 – a far cry from what he’s spinning about just learning about it this August.
In fact, he should be removed for gross ineptitude right now if he claims that he didn’t know what 16 intelligence agencies within his administration and under his supervision were doing.
Either way, he’s hoist on is own pitard right now. He’ll never spin his way out of this one.
There are too many credible individuals involved in these 16 agences to fall on their sword for Bush this time. They did it only because he had the power back with he cooked the books on Iraq. This time they’ll hang him out to dry by his gonads.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:08 amAnd they wanted to Impeach Clinton for a hummer! When it comes to Presidents, I’ll take a BJ over DOOMSDAY any day!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:08 amThe day any of us learn even one thing from you is the day when fiction parades as truth.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:09 ammiss molly,
Or, he knew but decided to lie anyway. and then say no one told him not to, like he did with the 16 words in his state of the union address. he was told by our guys that saddam wasn’t trying to get uranium from niger so he used the british intel so he couild blame them if he got caught.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:09 amAnd this is precisely the type of lie the people need to learn before they can connect the last and final dot in the 911 puzzle. One must ask oneself if there is anything this president would not lie about and they will begin to see the truth.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:11 amSomeone needs to remind El Jefe that “the buck stops at his desk” and whether he knew about it or not, he’s still guilty.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:11 amcoldhardleft: Your moniker says it all. Cold as a blackhearted demon; hard as one hardened from years of abuse; and left as in ‘out in left field’. At least you have talent in one area – calling a spade a spade. As for your quote: ahahahahahaha!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:13 amThe democrats didn’t sell Iran nuclear technology, Mr. P–that was Dick Cheney.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:13 amQ : Is this the Lie that will finally bring this man down?
December 6th, 2007 at 9:13 amKay: In one word: Abso-$ucking-lutely.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:14 amHe’s down already but the fallout is yet to come.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:15 am@ Bert Convy
December 6th, 2007 at 9:15 amGo back to your game show, I think Paul Lynne wants another one of your Larry Craig-style full-body massages. You mindless lemming!
The late Bert Convy was a host and/or panelist on several game shows, including What’s My Line?, To Tell the Truth, and Tattletales.
And know TP has its own Bert Convy showing up to “discuss” Bush’s veracity. Oh, the irony.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:16 amHow many sentences has President Bush commuted since Scooter Libby’s?
Comment by For Truth — December 6, 2007 @ 8:58 am
I don’t kow how sentences Brusch has commuted, but he sure murders one every time he speaks.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:17 amDearest Bert,
Are you going to be visiting Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Hadley, Rove, Myers, Powell when they are incarcerated in Federal Prison?
December 6th, 2007 at 9:17 amHey bert,
When you fluff ernie, does his knap get caught between your teeth?
December 6th, 2007 at 9:18 amDearest Bert,
Are you going to be visiting Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Hadley, Rove, Myers, Powell ETC when they are incarcerated in Federal Prison?
ooops! I forgot the all important ETC!!!!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:18 amcold hard left,
did dan bartlett direct you to that source?
December 6th, 2007 at 9:19 amThanks for the history lesson CHL! Now, go get a sense of humor.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:19 amComment by cold_hard_left — December 6, 2007 @ 9:15 am
President of the United States Bill Clinton was… acquitted by the Senate on February 12, 1999.
The trial proceedings were largely party-line, with no Democratic Senators voting for conviction and only three Democratic Representatives voting to impeach. In all, 55 senators voted “not guilty,” and 45 voted “guilty” on the charge of perjury. The Senate also acquitted on the obstruction charge with 50 votes cast each way.
Not quite sure why this thread has become about Clinton, BTW.
Oh… that’s right… we’re supposed to forget about Little W’s latest “stepped on his own dick” episode, again.
LOOK! Something shiny!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:20 amSo even when Bush changes his rhetoric, based on changes in intelligence, he is still being “deceptiveâ€. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t, I guess.
Comment by DreamCrusher — December 6, 2007 @ 3:52 am
Therefore, if Bush changed his tune based on intelligence, then he must have known more in August than he is admitting.
Here, let me re-post what Bush said:
Let me say it again: Bush would have us believe that he was told at that time that there is new intelligence but no details were given to him. As well, he apparently didn’t ask any questions as to the nature of the intelligence, whether it had been vetted or not.
So why would he change his tune in the intervening months if he knew nothing about a possible change in Iran’s ambitions? And no one told him to tone down his rhetoric, yet he starts singing a different tune.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:21 amwhen they are incarcerated in Federal Prison?
ooops! I forgot the all important ETC!!!!!!
Comment by Kay — December 6, 2007 @ 9:18 am
Are you suggesting that Bert services for the pleasure of the President, I mean, SERVES at the pleasure of the President, SERVES…
December 6th, 2007 at 9:22 amThe real problem here, Bad Eye, is that ANYTHING to do w/ intelligence escapes Brusch… totally, completely, overwhelmingly.
Indeed, why does intelligence hate America so?
December 6th, 2007 at 9:24 amIMPEACH – SPURIOUS GEORGE MUST GO!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:25 amHey, cold-hard-left. If you use my quote for a bumper sticker just remember, the glue goes on the back. })
December 6th, 2007 at 9:28 amAmerica’s Christmas gift is a non-nuclear Iran and not another Bush/Cheney bloody for oil war on the horizon. Maybe we’ll get two bonus gift this season too – the impeachment of Dumb and Dumber.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:31 amBert: I don’t see any bigoted references except coming from your lips.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:32 amBert,
“I am soooo pissed that President Bush’s policy of kicking Islamo jihadi sand monkey butt has caused the rags in Iran to give up on their nukes before this war President opens a can of good ol’ American whoopass on them.”
Did the beer run out or have you been driven away from your reality TV watching by something else. No prob, put some Charlie Daniels or Molly Hatchet on. Confess it, you miss having “darkies” to lynch, dontcha?
December 6th, 2007 at 9:33 amI don’t think it’s fallen out of vogue as much as the repukes have cornered the market on it. I hear in Congress they’re giving movement lessons this christmas – first you put your right foot oh so wide, then you tap, tap, tap. Yes, I hear it’s the newest congressional “line dance”.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:34 amIt’s a congressional conga line with Chief Shrub leading the parade on the streets of washington during the annual lchristmas parade.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:34 amAnd The Bert & Ernie float will have Hastert and Foley playing hide the sausage.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:35 amFunny. This morning on CNN.com the 2nd or 3rd item on their top news stories was about how Bush new in Aug that Iran had dismantled their nuclear program.
Now it’s gone.
Funny.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:36 am*bert
*
Comment by BERT CONVY — December 6, 2007 @ 9:29 am
Aw, bert, we’re just funsin’ wit’cha. I mean, ya cum thru the door callin’ folks moonbats (please define, meaningfully, BTW) do you expect us not ta throw rocks back?
Nice Jingle Ballsâ„¢, BTW. Quite an outfit, Li’l Feller – candy-cane striped codpiece, Jingle Ballsâ„¢, short shorts, pointy toed elf shoes. Whoever’s dressin’ you trolls these days has quite the sense of humor.
Kind of an S&M Munchkin thing goin’ on, huh? Some one get a picture fer tha TP Christmas album.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:36 am“Has that fallen out of vogue?”
Your using your alcohol-sodden brain apparently has, you bag of hammers. Go back to beating up your kids.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:36 amBert has a wonderful way with words!
Merry Christmas to you too, Bert!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:37 amNooooooo….
Bush lying? Nooooooooooooo! It can’t be….
Well, what else can we expect from a guy who has ZERO credibility now?
But just wait, I’m sure today Rush Limbaugh will reveal the true responsible for Bush’s bush-it, and that again will be … ” THE LIBERALS, THE DEMS”.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:42 amOr, he knew but decided to lie anyway.
Comment by Bobwurst — December 6, 2007 @ 9:09 am
Which means that Bush would rather people think of him as an idiot than as a liar. And it’s painfully obvious he’s both.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:55 amIt would have been nice if those Iran guys had just told us when they stoped their nucular stuff 2 years ago. I know it would have saved me many a sleepless nights.
Comment by Billy Hill
It would have been nice if Bush had just told us those Iran guys stoped their nucular stuff when he got the 2006 NIE more than a year ago. I know it would have saved me many a sleepless nights.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:57 amComment by missmolly — December 6, 2007 @ 9:03 am
You can bet that Bush knew. On Countdown on Tuesday, Richard Wolfe said that based on what he knew about Bush, including talking to him on and off the record, Bush asks plenty of questions. Given this, Bush’s revelation that “nobody told me” regarding the nature of the intelligence, and his statement that no one told him to tone down the rhetoric, is B.S.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:58 amIt would have been nice if those Iran guys had just told us when they stoped their nucular stuff 2 years ago. I know it would have saved me many a sleepless nights.
Comment by Billy Hill — December 5, 2007 @ 10:36 pm
Do you think anyone actually cares about you and the trailer park where you live? Why is it that Republican cowards who don’t live anywhere anyone would ever bother targeting are all scared while liberal democrats actually live, work and go on with their lives in cities that have been attacked. Continue to hide under your bed cowering in fear of those bad Muslims.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:58 ambert,
the first lesson of debate is know and address your audience. I make fun of your relationship with that other muppet becuase i know that conservofacists like yourself are anti-gay. and the more anti-gay you are, the more likely you are to be a closeted, or in your case a bathroom stalled homosexual. There are just too many of you not to notice the pattern. You’re all freaks.
December 6th, 2007 at 10:01 ambush has given republicans a golden opportunity to save their party from the ravages of association with the bush/cheney regime. If republicans were to push for impeachment proceedings to investigate bush lying they could get the jump on what many know now, and most everyone will come to know: that Pelosi/Reid were wrong to protect bush and inflict the disaster of this regime longer on the US than necessary; that bush/cheney should have been impeached and removed long ago; and that Pelosi/Reid failed their duty and their oath of office.
republicans pushing for impeachment proceedings would be a 4 punch knockout move for them. It would:
1) clearly distance them from bush
December 6th, 2007 at 10:31 am2) make democrats look awful
3) allow them to recover from their image as the lawless anti-constitutional party bestowed on them by bush
4) allow them to recover from the atrocity of their politically motivated Clinton impeachment.
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So Bush lies and the sycophants defend. Their heads are so far up his ass they chew polyps for breakfast.
The usual flimsy cover for the Chimperor is that “He’s a good man, he has to lie to protect our country.” Or, “Clinton lied, they all lie.” My kids tried that crap when they were in high school. “If I had told you we were going to Mexico, you wouldn’t have loaned us the Jeep. We had to lie.” And, “Everyone else is doing it, everybody lies.” So if these cnts want to defend this pathetic liar pResident, they share the same mentality as zit faced high school freshmen.
There is absolutely nothing Bush could do that would make these last 20%ers, the faithfull, turn against their God Bush. Sad little idiots that we have to share our country with aren’t they?
December 6th, 2007 at 10:53 amI am in step with the mainstream of American society, and history, indeed, is on my side as well.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Uh, your tin-foil hat needs adjusting…
December 6th, 2007 at 11:40 amComment by O. Bigfoot
Au contraire.
Sucking Shrubs stump equates to being a bottom feeder, 29%er, who is TOTALLY OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE MAINSTREAM.
Seriously, just move the foil hat a couple of degrees to your left, and I think you be in better tune with your “fantasy” of existence, Sasquatch breath.
December 6th, 2007 at 11:56 amWell, it is no surprise that El chimpo lied. he and his manipulative cronies have been doing so all along. We are in Iraq with a million Iraqi’s dead and 4000+ of our brave G.I.’s dead and thousands more maimed and/or psychologically damaged, because of the pattern of lies. Billions of dollars have been stolen or wasted or mislaid or misdirected. It is obvious in many ways, including the Plame outing, that they are also vicious and ultra-vengeful. So this is “compassionate conservatism?” These are people of faith? This is the “values” party!
They have the utter audacity to suggest that they have a closer connection to the Almighty than the rest of us! Verily I say unto you, that Boy Scouts, following the handbook rules, have more integrity and Christ-like kindness than these wing-nut, crazos with their rigid, nutzo, off-balance thinking.
All these guys are psychiatrically diagnosable and employ very primitive defense mechanisms, which essentially means that they are terribly unhealthy, emotionally. I would like to see a panel of psychiatrists discuss their ideas about how crazy they all are…Bush, Rove, Cheney, Bolton, Wolfowitz, DeLay, etc, etc, etc.
Same person…different head.
If the administration is so sick, and if Congress cannot find the courage to impeach the lot of them, I pray that the American people will stand up and demand more. America deserves better, much better, for sure.
The time for passivity has long since passed, my friends. We have met the enemy, and it is us.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:33 pm“I am in step with the mainstream of American society, and history, indeed, is on my side as well.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
What a strange turn of events that “the mainstream of America” has been reduced to 24% deadenders. And, it is even more amazing that this tiny “mainstream” has already written future “history” for us.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:44 pmSo THAT explains why President Bush has gotten pretty much everything he has wanted from the Democrat controlled Congress with nary a peep from the people of the United States (except for the always vocal noisemakers on the far left). Thanks for ’splaining that to us.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Actually, O’Bugfart, the American people are very upset that Republicans are obstructing progress on every issue. You deadenders keep it up for the next 12 months, because after that, we’ll have not only a super majority in Congress, but a Democrat in the Oval Office as well. Then, the only thing Congressional Republicans will be able to obstruct will be their own bowels.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:14 pmO’Squatch is all jacked up on the oxy today, I see – having delusions of historical significance and so on – - how long before we see him on the news for shooting up his home, or office, or some mall somewhere?
December 6th, 2007 at 1:29 pmthis tiny “mainstream†has already written future “history†for us.
Comment by shoeless
Not completely, thanks to “using the Google” to reach the internets, we’ve got access to THE TRUTH.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:45 pmWELL, WHAT A SURPRISE! NOT!! THE TEFLON PRESIDENT AND HIS CRONIES WILL ONCE AGAIN SQUIRM OUT OF THIS AND GO ON THEIR MERRY WAY. I SAY IMPEACH AND DO IT NOW!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 2:09 pmSo when do the impeachment hearings begin?
December 6th, 2007 at 4:26 pm“…Bush said “nobody ever told me†to back down…”
And here I thought he was “the Decider.”
Makes you wonder who’s holding his leash.
December 6th, 2007 at 4:51 pmWOW@ Bert Convy…..
that’s a troll’s troll right there…
December 6th, 2007 at 5:44 pmis he the reincarnation of Happy Guy??
or just another Righty, cracked with panic at the sinking of the USS Wingnut.
December 6th, 2007 at 5:48 pmthey won’t impeach him, but they can have him arrested ..GET HER DONE!!!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 8:43 pmSo THAT explains why President Bush has gotten pretty much everything he has wanted from the Democrat controlled Congress with nary a peep from the people of the United States…. Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 12:45 pm
Then why do I see Bush on tv everyday complaining that Congress is NOT doing what he wants? And why is Bush’s job approval rating at about 29% for years?
December 7th, 2007 at 3:48 amNothing you say ever fits reality.
Bert could be Ralph or P. If you go to its link, it really has a strange obsession will Hillary like those two.
December 7th, 2007 at 3:49 amHe was popular enough to get elected twice, and that is all that really matters.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 7, 2007 @ 9:28 am
Ummm, no. He was not elected the first time. Even the WH web site disputes you in Bush’s bio. Besides, Gore was more popular.
December 7th, 2007 at 11:11 amBush said “nobody ever told me†to back down from the hawkish rhetoric on Iran. That sums it up pretty well. He has been told to advocate war against Iran and the order stands unless Cheney or some other of his dark overlords tells him otherwise. That he is merely a puppet has been obvious to informed individuals for years, and I find it positive that he admits it himself so that uninformed individuals can finally grasp it.
December 7th, 2007 at 7:43 pm