Comments on: Like The State Department, DoJ Policies Discriminate Against Gay And Lesbian Employees http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:15:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Democrat Soldier http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4179378 Democrat Soldier Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:48:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4179378 #38 - "Have the CAIR protesters shown up at TP HQ yet? (corner of 13th Ave. and H Street in the NW quarter of DC). They’ll be expecting you." Comment by cold_hard_left — December 6, 2007 @ 9:04 am __________________________________________________ <strong>What a ridiculous comment.</strong> #38 – “Have the CAIR protesters shown up at TP HQ yet? (corner of 13th Ave. and H Street in the NW quarter of DC). They’ll be expecting you.” Comment by cold_hard_left — December 6, 2007 @ 9:04 am
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What a ridiculous comment.

]]> By: Democrat Soldier http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4179270 Democrat Soldier Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:29:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4179270 #16 - "Who needs directions?" Comment by cold_hard_left — December 5, 2007 @ 4:22 pm I do! Where do you work? I'll need your work address and the directions from South Salem, NY. Or do you only support terrorists by giving them addresses and directions? ;-) #16 – “Who needs directions?” Comment by cold_hard_left — December 5, 2007 @ 4:22 pm

I do!

Where do you work? I’ll need your work address and the directions from South Salem, NY.

Or do you only support terrorists by giving them addresses and directions? ;-)

]]> By: shaun http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4179088 shaun Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:33:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4179088 #13. Mohammed is as gay as Dumbledore. They are characters in storybooks. Comment by Menehune — December 5, 2007 @ 4:18 pm i though mohammed was a teddy bear living in sudan....??? #13. Mohammed is as gay as Dumbledore. They are characters in storybooks.

Comment by Menehune — December 5, 2007 @ 4:18 pm

i though mohammed was a teddy bear living in sudan….???

]]> By: Bartolo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178849 Bartolo Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:33:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178849 Don't you just love these photos of aWol looking at one of his minions with his head cocked like that? There must be dozens of such pics out there. Maybe all that blow affected his inner ears. Don’t you just love these photos of aWol looking at one of his minions with his head cocked like that? There must be dozens of such pics out there. Maybe all that blow affected his inner ears.

]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178761 missmolly Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:42:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178761 There is no such thing as “gay rights” under the Constitution. There are EQUAL RIGHTS for all people under the Constitution. By using the term “gay rights,” the perception of “special rights” for GLBT people is promulgated. Words have an effect. Comment by Don in Texas — December 5, 2007 @ 4:56 pm You have a point about the possible effect of the words "gay rights" -- although it's been my experience that the people who have the most visceral reaction to that term are the ones who wish to deny gays the same rights the rest of us enjoy. Myself -- I always interpreted the term to mean "gays getting the same rights as straights", but I can see a possibility for other interpretations. What, in your opinion, would be a less ambiguous term? The term in the TP item refers to groups whose objective is to ensure gays receive the same rights as everybody else. What would be a reasonable way to refer to such a group? There is no such thing as “gay rights” under the Constitution.

There are EQUAL RIGHTS for all people under the Constitution.

By using the term “gay rights,” the perception of “special rights” for GLBT people is promulgated. Words have an effect.

Comment by Don in Texas — December 5, 2007 @ 4:56 pm

You have a point about the possible effect of the words “gay rights” — although it’s been my experience that the people who have the most visceral reaction to that term are the ones who wish to deny gays the same rights the rest of us enjoy. Myself — I always interpreted the term to mean “gays getting the same rights as straights”, but I can see a possibility for other interpretations.

What, in your opinion, would be a less ambiguous term? The term in the TP item refers to groups whose objective is to ensure gays receive the same rights as everybody else. What would be a reasonable way to refer to such a group?

]]> By: Clumberfeet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178678 Clumberfeet Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:15:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178678 More precisely 'openly gay' employees are not OK. 'Caught gays' like Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Jeff Gannon (Guckert), Ted Haggard, ... and many more may or may not be OK depending on political correctness. 'OK gays' like Dick Cheney's daughter and and her partner are still OK. More precisely ‘openly gay’ employees are not OK.

‘Caught gays’ like Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Jeff Gannon (Guckert), Ted Haggard, … and many more may or may not be OK depending on political correctness.

‘OK gays’ like Dick Cheney’s daughter and and her partner are still OK.

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178634 Leftside Annie Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:04:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178634 23 - Hmmmm. That's rather a sophomoric argument, there, Don. There are no references to handicapped people in the Constitution either, but THEY have "the perception of special rights"...and that is a sign that our society is civilized enough to acknowledge the need for such. Our society ought to be civilized enough to NOT legislate bigotry or tolerate it. A person's sexual orientation ought to have absolutely NO bearing on anything, including their right to employment, to fair treatment, and their civil rights. Unfortunately, here in Jesusland, the Christian bigots are running the show - and they are NOT civilized. 23 – Hmmmm. That’s rather a sophomoric argument, there, Don.

There are no references to handicapped people in the Constitution either, but THEY have “the perception of special rights”…and that is a sign that our society is civilized enough to acknowledge the need for such.

Our society ought to be civilized enough to NOT legislate bigotry or tolerate it. A person’s sexual orientation ought to have absolutely NO bearing on anything, including their right to employment, to fair treatment, and their civil rights.

Unfortunately, here in Jesusland, the Christian bigots are running the show – and they are NOT civilized.

]]> By: Chris L http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178631 Chris L Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:03:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178631 OK — I’m confused. How in the world is the sexual orientation of religious prophets relevant to this topic? Comment by missmolly — December 5, 2007 @ 4:56 pm #### Sorry, I just wanted to make C_H_L's head explode. OK — I’m confused. How in the world is the sexual orientation of religious prophets relevant to this topic?

Comment by missmolly — December 5, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
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Sorry, I just wanted to make C_H_L’s head explode.

]]> By: Don in Texas http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178609 Don in Texas Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:58:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178609 Uh oh. Comments <i> are </i> satirical. I really did pass 8th grade English. Uh oh. Comments are satirical.

I really did pass 8th grade English.

]]> By: Don in Texas http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178601 Don in Texas Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:57:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178601 The comments about the sexual orientation of religious figures is satirical, I think. The comments about the sexual orientation of religious figures is satirical, I think.

]]> By: Don in Texas http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178599 Don in Texas Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:57:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178599 As usual, Miss Molly, you make very good sense. As usual, Miss Molly, you make very good sense.

]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178598 missmolly Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:56:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178598 OK -- I'm confused. How in the world is the sexual orientation of religious prophets relevant to this topic? OK — I’m confused. How in the world is the sexual orientation of religious prophets relevant to this topic?

]]> By: Don in Texas http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178595 Don in Texas Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:56:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178595 There is no such thing as "gay rights" under the Constitution. There are EQUAL RIGHTS for all people under the Constitution. By using the term "gay rights," the perception of "special rights" for GLBT people is promulgated. Words have an effect. There is no such thing as “gay rights” under the Constitution.

There are EQUAL RIGHTS for all people under the Constitution.

By using the term “gay rights,” the perception of “special rights” for GLBT people is promulgated. Words have an effect.

]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178582 missmolly Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:53:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178582 What kind of other events by other groups are being celebrated over at the DoJ? Are they things like employees of Irish ancestry celebrating St. Patrick's Day and employees of Mexican ancestry celebrating Cinco de Mayo? Black employees doing something for African American Heritage month? Are employees who aren't members of the celebrating ethnic group welcome at these events? If this is the case, then gay employees should be allowed to celebrate Gay Pride Month, breast cancer survivors should be allowed to hold an event during Breast Cancer Awareness month, etc. Either that, or ALL employees should celebrate their own holidays and observances on their own time. What kind of other events by other groups are being celebrated over at the DoJ? Are they things like employees of Irish ancestry celebrating St. Patrick’s Day and employees of Mexican ancestry celebrating Cinco de Mayo? Black employees doing something for African American Heritage month? Are employees who aren’t members of the celebrating ethnic group welcome at these events?

If this is the case, then gay employees should be allowed to celebrate Gay Pride Month, breast cancer survivors should be allowed to hold an event during Breast Cancer Awareness month, etc. Either that, or ALL employees should celebrate their own holidays and observances on their own time.

]]> By: Chris L http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178571 Chris L Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:51:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178571 #6. You wouldn’t dare say that about Mohammed, would you? Comment by cold_hard_left — December 5, 2007 @ 4:12 pm #### Mohammed was even more gay than Jesus. He was way up there in the flaming Larry-Craig-osphere of gayness. #6. You wouldn’t dare say that about Mohammed, would you?

Comment by cold_hard_left — December 5, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
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Mohammed was even more gay than Jesus. He was way up there in the flaming Larry-Craig-osphere of gayness.

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178532 Doc Rock Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:34:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178532 Of course Condi would be unsympathetic--she's hetero and in love with her husb ..., whoops President. Of course Condi would be unsympathetic–she’s hetero and in love with her husb …, whoops President.

]]> By: Menehune http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178528 Menehune Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:32:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178528 Wait a sec. CHL wants to help the jihadis? Hmmmm. The world will be better off when they realize that they are killing and dying over characters in books. They are words. They do what the author makes them do. Rhett told Scarlett that he didn't give a damn so I'm going to start a world war. Wait a sec. CHL wants to help the jihadis? Hmmmm. The world will be better off when they realize that they are killing and dying over characters in books. They are words. They do what the author makes them do. Rhett told Scarlett that he didn’t give a damn so I’m going to start a world war.

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178514 Leftside Annie Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:24:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178514 WTF are you babbling about, CHL...? Did your nurse forget to medicate you? WTF are you babbling about, CHL…?

Did your nurse forget to medicate you?

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178512 Leftside Annie Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:23:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178512 15 - yer crackin' me up here!! Yeah - the CHL fatwa!! 15 – yer crackin’ me up here!!

Yeah – the CHL fatwa!!

]]> By: Bobwurst http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/comment-page-1/#comment-4178505 Bobwurst Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:20:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/doj-discriminate-gays/#comment-4178505 Be careful methune, coldhardweiner will declare a jihad on your butt. Be careful methune, coldhardweiner will declare a jihad on your butt.

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