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		<title>By: tombaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>tombaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh goodie - Here&#039;s a meeting of the minds made in heaven.

Hendler and Exley, expositing their vast knowledge of the opinions of others for the edification of the 98% of tp posters who already know they&#039;re corrupt and dishonest Righty sycophants, desperately wishing Shooter would take notice and have that lunch at Red Lobster he promised to have.

&quot;Bartender - More big shoes and red rubber noses for my clown friends!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh goodie &#8211; Here&#8217;s a meeting of the minds made in heaven.</p>
<p>Hendler and Exley, expositing their vast knowledge of the opinions of others for the edification of the 98% of tp posters who already know they&#8217;re corrupt and dishonest Righty sycophants, desperately wishing Shooter would take notice and have that lunch at Red Lobster he promised to have.</p>
<p>&#8220;Bartender &#8211; More big shoes and red rubber noses for my clown friends!!&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4178843', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/thinkfast-december-5-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4178250</link>
		<dc:creator>Ret. Col. Jack Ripper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the corporate media has been saying, &quot;the surge is working,&quot; for weeks now, more people THINK the surge is working. Wow. Now THAT&#039;S news!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the corporate media has been saying, &#8220;the surge is working,&#8221; for weeks now, more people THINK the surge is working. Wow. Now THAT&#8217;S news!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4178250', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Perry logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democrats hold a stable advantage in the Congressional vote (51 to 41 percent) â€“ their new plateau for almost all of 2007. And more relevant for 2008, Democrats are well ahead (54 to 37 percent) in the 35 Democratic battleground districts, including their 2006 pick-up seats.
And perhaps even more relevant, the Democrats are running ahead (48 to 42 percent) in the Republican-held battleground seats.

Democrats have moved into a stable lead in the named balloting for Congress â€“ bigger than the margin they achieved in 2006.

voters hold their Democratic House incumbents (asked by name) in high esteem â€“ a judgment stable over the last six months; while Republican incumbents are losing their voters â€“ with their favorability ratings falling significantly over the same period, particularly in the last month.
http://www.democracycorps.com/reports/analyses/Democracy_Corps_November_6_2007_Memo.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrats hold a stable advantage in the Congressional vote (51 to 41 percent) â€“ their new plateau for almost all of 2007. And more relevant for 2008, Democrats are well ahead (54 to 37 percent) in the 35 Democratic battleground districts, including their 2006 pick-up seats.<br />
And perhaps even more relevant, the Democrats are running ahead (48 to 42 percent) in the Republican-held battleground seats.</p>
<p>Democrats have moved into a stable lead in the named balloting for Congress â€“ bigger than the margin they achieved in 2006.</p>
<p>voters hold their Democratic House incumbents (asked by name) in high esteem â€“ a judgment stable over the last six months; while Republican incumbents are losing their voters â€“ with their favorability ratings falling significantly over the same period, particularly in the last month.<br />
<a href="http://www.democracycorps.com/reports/analyses/Democracy_Corps_November_6_2007_Memo.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.democracycorps.com/reports/analyses/Democracy_Corps_November_6_2007_Memo.pdf</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4178077', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like the Dems are getting skiddish about their cut and run antics over the last couple years.

Comment by Jason M. Hendler â€” December 5, 2007 @ 1:18 pm

Once again you show us your brilliant Stanford education, that would be &quot;skittish&quot; dumbass.  I&#039;d start admitting the high school diploma is it until you learn how to spell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like the Dems are getting skiddish about their cut and run antics over the last couple years.</p>
<p>Comment by Jason M. Hendler â€” December 5, 2007 @ 1:18 pm</p>
<p>Once again you show us your brilliant Stanford education, that would be &#8220;skittish&#8221; dumbass.  I&#8217;d start admitting the high school diploma is it until you learn how to spell.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4178020', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lefty Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>t is THAT number that will influence the presidential candidates and whoever is ultimately elected.

Comment by Exley â€” December 5, 2007 @ 1:04 pm

which is exactly why the reigs are so invested in pushing more lies out to the public, like the surge is working crap. thay can;t win on the truth, and they can&#039;t win on the facts. they can only win by catapulting the propaganda, and by using the watercarrying, unthinking tools like you. Fortunately for the future of the USA, they always screw up, and this will prove to be to little too late, and we will be rid of you scum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>t is THAT number that will influence the presidential candidates and whoever is ultimately elected.</p>
<p>Comment by Exley â€” December 5, 2007 @ 1:04 pm</p>
<p>which is exactly why the reigs are so invested in pushing more lies out to the public, like the surge is working crap. thay can;t win on the truth, and they can&#8217;t win on the facts. they can only win by catapulting the propaganda, and by using the watercarrying, unthinking tools like you. Fortunately for the future of the USA, they always screw up, and this will prove to be to little too late, and we will be rid of you scum.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177987', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason M. Hendler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason M. Hendler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exley,

It looks like the Dems are getting skiddish about their cut and run antics over the last couple years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exley,</p>
<p>It looks like the Dems are getting skiddish about their cut and run antics over the last couple years.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177967', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DieNowForPeace</title>
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		<dc:creator>DieNowForPeace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Comment by alphainfinityomega&lt;/em&gt;

How dare you insult the greatness of the 3 Stooges!!!</description>
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<p>How dare you insult the greatness of the 3 Stooges!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177940', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bienville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bienville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is happening in New Orleans will soon be happening to you.

&lt;strong&gt;HUD Sends New Orleans Bulldozers and $400,000 Apartments for the Holidays&lt;/strong&gt;
By Bill Quigley
t r u t h o u t &#124; Report/Perspective 

Monday 03 December 2007

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/120307A.shtml

&quot;On the 12th day before Christmas, the US Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) is planning to unleash teams of bulldozers to demolish thousands of low-income apartments in New Orleans. Despite Katrina causing the worst affordable housing crisis since the Civil War, HUD is spending $762 million in taxpayer funds to tear down over 4,600 public housing subsidized apartments and replace them with 744 similarly subsidized units - an 82 percent reduction. HUD is in charge and one HUD employee makes all the local housing authority decisions. HUD took over the local housing authority years ago - all decisions are made in Washington, DC. HUD plans to build an additional 1,000 market rate and tax credit units - which will still result in a net loss of 2,700 apartments to New Orleans - the remaining new apartments will cost an average of over $400,000 each!

&quot;Affordable housing is at a critical point along the Gulf Coast. Over 50,000 families still living in tiny FEMA trailers are being systematically forced out. Over 90,000 homeowners in Louisiana are still waiting to receive federal recovery funds from the Road Home. In New Orleans, hundreds of the estimated 12,000 homeless have taken up residence in small tents across the street from City Hall and under the I-10. 

&quot;A federal court has refused to stop the scheduled demolitions. Residents offered evidence to show the three-story garden-style buildings were structurally sound, and pointed out the local housing authority itself documented it would cost much less to repair and retain the apartments than demolish and reconstruct a small fraction of them. The New York Times architecture critic described them as &quot;low scale, narrow footprint and high quality construction.&quot; HUD promised to subject plans for demolition to 100 days of scrutiny - yet approved demolition with no public input in less than two days. 

&quot;Reduction of crime was supposed to be the main reason for getting rid of thousands of public housing apartments - yet crime in New Orleans has soared since Katrina, while the thousands of apartments remain shut.

&quot;There may be crime in the projects after all - even if the residents are gone. Consider the following examples:

&quot;Investigative reporter Edward T. Pound, of the National Journal, has uncovered many questionable and several potentially criminal actions by HUD in New Orleans. Pound reported HUD Secretary Jackson worked with, and is owed over $250,000 from, an Atlanta-based company, Columbia Residential. Columbia Residential was part of a team that was awarded a $127 million contract by HUD to develop the St. Bernard housing development. Columbia was also awarded other earlier contracts for as yet undisclosed amounts under still undisclosed circumstances. 

&quot;What is scheduled to happen in New Orleans is happening across the United States. It is just New Orleans offers a more condensed and graphic illustration. The federal government is determined to get out of housing all together and let the private market reign. A 2007 report of the Urban Institute confirms that in the last decade over 78,000 low-income apartments have been demolished by HUD. That is why locals are receiving support and solidarity from residents and housing advocates in Chicago, Miami, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, and New York. 

&quot;Poor and working people in New Orleans and across the globe are living on property that has become valuable for corporations. Accommodating governments are pushing the poor away and turning public property to private. HUD is giving private developers hundreds of millions of public dollars, scores of acres of valuable land, and thousands of public apartments. Happy holidays for them for sure. 


&quot;For the poor, the holidays are scheduled to bring bulldozers. The demolition is poised to start in New Orleans any day now. Attempts at demolition will be met with just resistance. Whether that resistance is successful or not will determine not only the future of the working poor in New Orleans, but of working poor communities nationally and globally. If the US government is allowed to demolish thousands of much-needed affordable apartments of Katrina victims, what chance do others have?&quot;

&lt;em&gt;Bill is a human rights lawyer and law professor at Loyola University New Orleans. You can contact him at Quigley@loyno.edu. Bill is one of the lawyers for displaced residents.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is happening in New Orleans will soon be happening to you.</p>
<p><strong>HUD Sends New Orleans Bulldozers and $400,000 Apartments for the Holidays</strong><br />
By Bill Quigley<br />
t r u t h o u t | Report/Perspective </p>
<p>Monday 03 December 2007</p>
<p><a href="http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/120307A.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/120307A.shtml</a></p>
<p>&#8220;On the 12th day before Christmas, the US Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) is planning to unleash teams of bulldozers to demolish thousands of low-income apartments in New Orleans. Despite Katrina causing the worst affordable housing crisis since the Civil War, HUD is spending $762 million in taxpayer funds to tear down over 4,600 public housing subsidized apartments and replace them with 744 similarly subsidized units &#8211; an 82 percent reduction. HUD is in charge and one HUD employee makes all the local housing authority decisions. HUD took over the local housing authority years ago &#8211; all decisions are made in Washington, DC. HUD plans to build an additional 1,000 market rate and tax credit units &#8211; which will still result in a net loss of 2,700 apartments to New Orleans &#8211; the remaining new apartments will cost an average of over $400,000 each!</p>
<p>&#8220;Affordable housing is at a critical point along the Gulf Coast. Over 50,000 families still living in tiny FEMA trailers are being systematically forced out. Over 90,000 homeowners in Louisiana are still waiting to receive federal recovery funds from the Road Home. In New Orleans, hundreds of the estimated 12,000 homeless have taken up residence in small tents across the street from City Hall and under the I-10. </p>
<p>&#8220;A federal court has refused to stop the scheduled demolitions. Residents offered evidence to show the three-story garden-style buildings were structurally sound, and pointed out the local housing authority itself documented it would cost much less to repair and retain the apartments than demolish and reconstruct a small fraction of them. The New York Times architecture critic described them as &#8220;low scale, narrow footprint and high quality construction.&#8221; HUD promised to subject plans for demolition to 100 days of scrutiny &#8211; yet approved demolition with no public input in less than two days. </p>
<p>&#8220;Reduction of crime was supposed to be the main reason for getting rid of thousands of public housing apartments &#8211; yet crime in New Orleans has soared since Katrina, while the thousands of apartments remain shut.</p>
<p>&#8220;There may be crime in the projects after all &#8211; even if the residents are gone. Consider the following examples:</p>
<p>&#8220;Investigative reporter Edward T. Pound, of the National Journal, has uncovered many questionable and several potentially criminal actions by HUD in New Orleans. Pound reported HUD Secretary Jackson worked with, and is owed over $250,000 from, an Atlanta-based company, Columbia Residential. Columbia Residential was part of a team that was awarded a $127 million contract by HUD to develop the St. Bernard housing development. Columbia was also awarded other earlier contracts for as yet undisclosed amounts under still undisclosed circumstances. </p>
<p>&#8220;What is scheduled to happen in New Orleans is happening across the United States. It is just New Orleans offers a more condensed and graphic illustration. The federal government is determined to get out of housing all together and let the private market reign. A 2007 report of the Urban Institute confirms that in the last decade over 78,000 low-income apartments have been demolished by HUD. That is why locals are receiving support and solidarity from residents and housing advocates in Chicago, Miami, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, and New York. </p>
<p>&#8220;Poor and working people in New Orleans and across the globe are living on property that has become valuable for corporations. Accommodating governments are pushing the poor away and turning public property to private. HUD is giving private developers hundreds of millions of public dollars, scores of acres of valuable land, and thousands of public apartments. Happy holidays for them for sure. </p>
<p>&#8220;For the poor, the holidays are scheduled to bring bulldozers. The demolition is poised to start in New Orleans any day now. Attempts at demolition will be met with just resistance. Whether that resistance is successful or not will determine not only the future of the working poor in New Orleans, but of working poor communities nationally and globally. If the US government is allowed to demolish thousands of much-needed affordable apartments of Katrina victims, what chance do others have?&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Bill is a human rights lawyer and law professor at Loyola University New Orleans. You can contact him at <a href="mailto:Quigley@loyno.edu">Quigley@loyno.edu</a>. Bill is one of the lawyers for displaced residents.</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177937', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Exley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RUCerious,

As you acknowledge, it is now an even split between those who say things are going well and things are not going well in Iraq....The % of those who said things were NOT going well was much higher until the success of the surge became evident. So, the trend is towards optimism.

The second question is ambiguous -- What does &quot;As soon as possible&quot; to those answering the question? Does that mean &quot;immediately?&quot; Does that mean &quot;as soon as AQI is defeated?&quot; Or does it mean something else to each indvidual respondant?

As for Bush&#039;s ratings re: the war -- I am certainly not making the argument that the war or Bush&#039;s handling of the war are popular. Certainly that is not the case. 

But quite frankly Bush&#039;s ratings at this point are irrelevant. He cannot run for office again. By this time next year, we will elected a new president....So, the more important figures to look at are how the American people view what is going on in Iraq. It is THAT number that will influence the presidential candidates and whoever is ultimately elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RUCerious,</p>
<p>As you acknowledge, it is now an even split between those who say things are going well and things are not going well in Iraq&#8230;.The % of those who said things were NOT going well was much higher until the success of the surge became evident. So, the trend is towards optimism.</p>
<p>The second question is ambiguous &#8212; What does &#8220;As soon as possible&#8221; to those answering the question? Does that mean &#8220;immediately?&#8221; Does that mean &#8220;as soon as AQI is defeated?&#8221; Or does it mean something else to each indvidual respondant?</p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s ratings re: the war &#8212; I am certainly not making the argument that the war or Bush&#8217;s handling of the war are popular. Certainly that is not the case. </p>
<p>But quite frankly Bush&#8217;s ratings at this point are irrelevant. He cannot run for office again. By this time next year, we will elected a new president&#8230;.So, the more important figures to look at are how the American people view what is going on in Iraq. It is THAT number that will influence the presidential candidates and whoever is ultimately elected.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177933', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: alphainfinityomega</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/thinkfast-december-5-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4177905</link>
		<dc:creator>alphainfinityomega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CAPTION:

&lt;strong&gt;The Five Stooges

âˆž&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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<p><strong>The Five Stooges</p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the latest Pew poll, with all the pertinent questions included.

Pew Research Center for the People &amp; the Press survey conducted by Schulman, Ronca, &amp; Bucuvalas. Nov. 20-26, 2007. N=1,399 adults nationwide. MoE Â± 3. July 2007 survey conducted by Schulman, Ronca &amp; Bucuvalas. All other surveys conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates International.

&quot;Now, thinking about Iraq -- How well is the U.S. military effort in Iraq going . . . ?&quot;

Very Well  11
Fairly Well  37
Not Too Well  29
Not at All Well  19
Unsure 4

So it&#039;s an even split when you compare Very/Fairly with Nots...
And only 11 % say very well.

&quot;Do you think the U.S. should keep military troops in Iraq until the situation has stabilized, or do you think the U.S. should bring its troops home as soon as possible?&quot;
 
Keep in Iraq Until Stabilized  41
Bring Home As Soon as Possible  54
Unsure   5


And as long as we are polling, here&#039;s a doozy

NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Bill McInturff (R). Nov. 1-5, 2007. N=1,509 adults nationwide. MoE Â± 2.5 (for all adults).

&quot;In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that George W. Bush is doing in handling the situation in Iraq?&quot; Half sample, MoE Â± 3.6 (Form B)

Approve  27
Disapprove  68
Unsure     5  

Well Exley?</description>
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<p>Pew Research Center for the People &amp; the Press survey conducted by Schulman, Ronca, &amp; Bucuvalas. Nov. 20-26, 2007. N=1,399 adults nationwide. MoE Â± 3. July 2007 survey conducted by Schulman, Ronca &amp; Bucuvalas. All other surveys conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates International.</p>
<p>&#8220;Now, thinking about Iraq &#8212; How well is the U.S. military effort in Iraq going . . . ?&#8221;</p>
<p>Very Well  11<br />
Fairly Well  37<br />
Not Too Well  29<br />
Not at All Well  19<br />
Unsure 4</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s an even split when you compare Very/Fairly with Nots&#8230;<br />
And only 11 % say very well.</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you think the U.S. should keep military troops in Iraq until the situation has stabilized, or do you think the U.S. should bring its troops home as soon as possible?&#8221;</p>
<p>Keep in Iraq Until Stabilized  41<br />
Bring Home As Soon as Possible  54<br />
Unsure   5</p>
<p>And as long as we are polling, here&#8217;s a doozy</p>
<p>NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Bill McInturff (R). Nov. 1-5, 2007. N=1,509 adults nationwide. MoE Â± 2.5 (for all adults).</p>
<p>&#8220;In general, do you approve or disapprove of the job that George W. Bush is doing in handling the situation in Iraq?&#8221; Half sample, MoE Â± 3.6 (Form B)</p>
<p>Approve  27<br />
Disapprove  68<br />
Unsure     5  </p>
<p>Well Exley?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177839', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really Exley we all know the fact behind this poll you&#039;re citing.  And you belive anybody gives a crap what you have to say.  Why don&#039;t you and Jason run along and perform your little circle jerk somewhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really Exley we all know the fact behind this poll you&#8217;re citing.  And you belive anybody gives a crap what you have to say.  Why don&#8217;t you and Jason run along and perform your little circle jerk somewhere else.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177822', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/thinkfast-december-5-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4177813</link>
		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He gets off on the abuse - he thinks it makes him more like Jesus.

Comment by bernard quatermass â€” December 5, 2007 @ 10:24 am

Oh crap, you just summoned Daryll here.  Sure there&#039;s no gay sex but you used the J word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He gets off on the abuse &#8211; he thinks it makes him more like Jesus.</p>
<p>Comment by bernard quatermass â€” December 5, 2007 @ 10:24 am</p>
<p>Oh crap, you just summoned Daryll here.  Sure there&#8217;s no gay sex but you used the J word.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177813', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/thinkfast-december-5-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4177801</link>
		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops, I meant to end that Exley...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops, I meant to end that Exley&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177801', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/thinkfast-december-5-2007/comment-page-3/#comment-4177799</link>
		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as long as the Iraqis fail to use this &quot;pause&quot; for reconciliation then the stated purpose of the temporary (read Muqtada) lull in violence and the cost in American lives will be a waste, just like you JH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as long as the Iraqis fail to use this &#8220;pause&#8221; for reconciliation then the stated purpose of the temporary (read Muqtada) lull in violence and the cost in American lives will be a waste, just like you JH.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177799', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exley</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/thinkfast-december-5-2007/comment-page-2/#comment-4177792</link>
		<dc:creator>Exley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What did we miss? Let us know in the comments section.&quot;

New Gallup poll shows growing confidence the surge is working:

&quot;The Surge Effect -- Gallup Poll 12/5/07

Four in 10 Americans now say the U.S. troop surge in Iraq that began earlier this year is making the situation there better. This is up from 34% four weeks ago and from 22% when Gallup first measured it in July.

Since August, more Americans have tended to say the surge is making the situation in Iraq better rather than worse, but today&#039;s ratio -- 40% vs. 20% -- is the most positive yet recorded. Thirty-nine percent of Americans currently say the surge is not making any difference; this is down from 43% in September and 51% in July.

The acknowledgment from some Democrats, such as Rep. John Murtha, that &quot;the surge is working&quot; might be expected to have at least softened criticism of the surge among rank-and-file Democrats. Thus far, that is not apparent.

Currently, 18% of Democrats say the surge is making the situation in Iraq better, no different from the 19% saying this last month. Republican attitudes on the question have remained about the same. The upward movement in positive reviews has come mostly from political independents.&quot;

Gallup.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What did we miss? Let us know in the comments section.&#8221;</p>
<p>New Gallup poll shows growing confidence the surge is working:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Surge Effect &#8212; Gallup Poll 12/5/07</p>
<p>Four in 10 Americans now say the U.S. troop surge in Iraq that began earlier this year is making the situation there better. This is up from 34% four weeks ago and from 22% when Gallup first measured it in July.</p>
<p>Since August, more Americans have tended to say the surge is making the situation in Iraq better rather than worse, but today&#8217;s ratio &#8212; 40% vs. 20% &#8212; is the most positive yet recorded. Thirty-nine percent of Americans currently say the surge is not making any difference; this is down from 43% in September and 51% in July.</p>
<p>The acknowledgment from some Democrats, such as Rep. John Murtha, that &#8220;the surge is working&#8221; might be expected to have at least softened criticism of the surge among rank-and-file Democrats. Thus far, that is not apparent.</p>
<p>Currently, 18% of Democrats say the surge is making the situation in Iraq better, no different from the 19% saying this last month. Republican attitudes on the question have remained about the same. The upward movement in positive reviews has come mostly from political independents.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gallup.com<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177792', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zimzone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zimzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see a &#039;wrestle-off&#039; between both Presidents.

Who would win? Iranians are superb wrestlers; would Bush get pinned?
Nah, he&#039;d cry &#039;uncle&#039;  &amp; then start crying.

The Shrubster is not a &#039;man&#039;s man&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see a &#8216;wrestle-off&#8217; between both Presidents.</p>
<p>Who would win? Iranians are superb wrestlers; would Bush get pinned?<br />
Nah, he&#8217;d cry &#8216;uncle&#8217;  &amp; then start crying.</p>
<p>The Shrubster is not a &#8216;man&#8217;s man&#8217;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177782', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/05/thinkfast-december-5-2007/comment-page-2/#comment-4177780</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thoughts exactly. Time for plan b. Has anyone tried to connect the dots between the outing of Valerie Plame and Iran stopping their nuclear program? Both seemed to be happening about the same timeâ€“kinda makes you wonder.

Don&#039;t expect the Current Complicit Media to connect these dots. They were bought and sold long ago. 

I just wish some intrepid reporter would put their career on the line and shine a bright light on the continued Crimes of the Bush Krime Killing Kabal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thoughts exactly. Time for plan b. Has anyone tried to connect the dots between the outing of Valerie Plame and Iran stopping their nuclear program? Both seemed to be happening about the same timeâ€“kinda makes you wonder.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t expect the Current Complicit Media to connect these dots. They were bought and sold long ago. </p>
<p>I just wish some intrepid reporter would put their career on the line and shine a bright light on the continued Crimes of the Bush Krime Killing Kabal.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177780', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must still feel very vulnerable to the â€œvaluesâ€ factor.

Comment by Jason M. Hendler â€” December 5, 2007 @ 9:47 am

Katy wanted me to pass this message on to you,

â€œValuesâ€ is a codeword for â€œprejudices!â€</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must still feel very vulnerable to the â€œvaluesâ€ factor.</p>
<p>Comment by Jason M. Hendler â€” December 5, 2007 @ 9:47 am</p>
<p>Katy wanted me to pass this message on to you,</p>
<p>â€œValuesâ€ is a codeword for â€œprejudices!â€<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177778', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;President Bush has announced he will make the first visit to Israel of his presidency in January.&lt;/em&gt;

You suppose we could convince them to extend his stay, say a year or so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>President Bush has announced he will make the first visit to Israel of his presidency in January.</em></p>
<p>You suppose we could convince them to extend his stay, say a year or so?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4177776', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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