Cheney: ‘I’d Have To Go Back And Do A Lot Of Research’ To See If Rove Is Right About War Vote
Cheney: ‘I’d Have To Go Back And Do A Lot Of Research’ To See If Rove Is Right About War Vote
Like Karl Rove, Dick Cheney seems to have forgotten how the Iraq War got started. In an exclusive interview with Mike Allen, Jim Vandehei and John Harris of Politico.com, he said he’d have to do a little research to figure out just who was pushing whom to war:
Q Speaking of the history in Iraq, there’s been a debate recently on the buildup to the vote for us to go to war, and you obviously were very intimately involved in that. Karl Rove has talked about, listen, Democrats — and Daschle — they wanted a speedy vote, before the elections, for the war. And Daschle has said, well, it’s nonsense, they’re trying to rewrite history. What is your recollection of what was happening? Were they — were Democrats pushing for a quick vote on the war before the election?
THE VICE PRESIDENT: I don’t want to get into that. I, frankly, I’ve heard a little bit of the argument and I don’t understand it. (Laughter.)
Q I’m sorry, what do you mean by that?
THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, I mean, I thought we proceeded in an orderly fashion. But I have not gone back and looked at that. I don’t — it’s not clear to me what the issue is that’s being debated there.
Q The issue is whether the White House was pushing, or Democrats were pushing.
THE VICE PRESIDENT: I thought we had approached it on a fairly bipartisan basis, and that was reflected in the vote. And we also went through a process with respect to intelligence matters, work at the United Nations seeking resolutions from the U.N. Security Council that applied to the situation. But in terms of, you know, we were pushing, or the Democrats were pushing, that’s not — I’d have to go back and do a lot of research to have an opinion on that.
Q Mr. Vice President, this was so nice of you. Speaking of 2009, is this it for public service for you…?
In the spirit of bipartisanship, ThinkProgress provides this jumpstart to help the Vice President’s research.
Right before the 2002 election, Cheney conceded that there was an option “to wait till January or February” of the next year, but he argued, “we’re to the point where we think time is not on our side.” Here’s Cheney telling Russert that Democrats should vote before the 2002 election:
MR. RUSSERT: So you want a vote in Congress in October?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Our preference would be to have a vote in Congress before they go home. And when they go home is up to them ordinarily. Now, they’ve scheduled an early October adjournment. I don’t think they’ll ever make that ’cause they’ve got all the appropriation bills to do yet, too, but this is not-I mean, the suggestion that I find reprehensible is the notion that somehow, you know, we saved this and now we’ve sprung it on them for political reasons. The president and I have talked about this for months. And now we’ve asked them to engage on it, not because it’s a campaign year. As I say every other year is a campaign year anyway. We’ve asked them to engage in it because they have a constitutional responsibility to do so. They need to stand up and be counted.
Feel free to help Mr. Cheney with his memory by adding your own reminders in the comments.
– t-dub
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shock him again doc!
December 6th, 2007 at 3:16 pmi take that back, waterboard his sorry ass.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:17 pmRight before the 2002 election, Cheney conceded that there was an option “to wait till January or February†of the next year, but he argued, “we’re to the point where we think time is not on our side.â€
Translation: "G_ddammit, we've got to bomb the sh*t out of Iran before the truth comes out!"
December 6th, 2007 at 3:19 pmResearch? That sounds like that scientific stuff. Me, I don't need research. I have faith that you are lying.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:19 pmSunni lawmakers walk out of Iraqi parliament to protest leader’s “house arrestâ€
The Associated Press
Published: December 1, 2007
BAGHDAD: Lawmakers from parliament’s largest Sunni Arab bloc walked out of Saturday’s session to protest what they called the house arrest of their leader following the discovery of a car bomb near his compound.
U.S. and Iraqi officials said the keys to the vehicle were found on one of Adnan al-Dulaimi’s bodyguards. Al-Dulaimi’s son, Maki al-Maliki, and about 30 other people were arrested Friday.
The political storm over the alleged house arrest of one of Iraq’s most powerful Sunni politicians and the detentions have threatened to inflame sectarian tensions at a time when U.S. officials are pushing Iraqi politicians to take advantage of a recent decline in violence to forge power-sharing agreements among Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds.
http://www.iht.com/ articles/ ap/ 2007/ 12/ 01/ africa/ ME-GEN-Iraq-Politics.php
December 6th, 2007 at 3:20 pmAlzheimers run deep through the republican party. But money may not cure it, dick.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:20 pmhttp://vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=116
"American commanders have said that they are aggressively negotiating with Sadr officials to help keep his militia, the Mahdi Army, in check. But if the cease-fire ends, if Mr. Sadr's whims shift, that could push violence up again--no matter how many troops are here. Basically, the Americans find themselves playing the role of facilitators, hoping that both sides stick to their newfound strategies, and doing everything they can to keep it that way."
December 6th, 2007 at 3:21 pmHold me accountible??
Who do you think you are?
I only answer to my master, Satan!
December 6th, 2007 at 3:21 pmyou don't ask satan to explain what his minions were up to on a given day, and expect a straight answer, unless you're a clueless rube who cashes paychecks while destroying the credibility of your own profession.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:22 pm"What’s past is past. It only matters that it’s working:
CaptainManTick"
bartlett must have called with the whitehouse regurgitation points pretty quick this time.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:22 pmWhat might be an easier and certainly a quicker way to jog your memory, Mr. Cheney is to step right this way, sir....Yes, that's exactly what it is, sir...just a table. Thats right lay down right there and close your eyes...u know the drill, sir....and no sir, u really won't be drowning....we call this waterboarding!!
December 6th, 2007 at 3:23 pmCheney needs to spend the rest of his days behind bars in a cold damp cell.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:24 pmCaption contest:
"Was that the right answer?"
December 6th, 2007 at 3:25 pmUh...I think, ah, telling the truth, if you will, is hard work.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:26 pmTrapped in the Green Zone
Hundreds of Iraqi families have sought refuge in Baghdad's Green Zone in recent years. Now the authorities want them out -- but beyond the barricades, death awaits.
Rejected in the Green Zone, Accepted in Sweden: The Tragically High Price of Helping Americans
http://www.spiegel.de/international/
December 6th, 2007 at 3:26 pmCaption contest:
"So you tap your foot like this, and you take a wide stance"
December 6th, 2007 at 3:27 pmAnd who said "we don't do product roll-outs in mid-August," back in 2002? Dan Bartlett - meaning they were scheduling it for prior to the midterms
December 6th, 2007 at 3:28 pm“American commanders have said that they are aggressively negotiating with Sadr officials to help keep his militia, the Mahdi Army, in check. But if the cease-fire ends, if Mr. Sadr’s whims shift, that could push violence up again–no matter how many troops are here. Basically, the Americans find themselves playing the role of facilitators, hoping that both sides stick to their newfound strategies, and doing everything they can to keep it that way.â€
Comment by Chris L — December 6, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
Can as-Sadr actually keep his militia in check? I thought it was splitting into three competing factions, which is why he called for the cease-fire in the first place.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:29 pmUh…I think, ah, telling the truth, if you will, is hard work.
Comment by Leftside Annie — December 6, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
Annie, I think the next statement would be:
"...and is not advisable."
December 6th, 2007 at 3:31 pmComment by CaptainMantastic — December 6, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
Or in yer case, Masturbastic, what's NOT working...
December 6th, 2007 at 3:32 pmI'd say that picture was taken just as Jeff Gannon was looking for his long lost wristwatch, after coming out of the cold.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:32 pmthat's it, capt meat-whistle? an incomplete, partial opinion from a guy you said was a liar and a traitor? that's all you have?
bwahahahahahahahaha! you're so done!
December 6th, 2007 at 3:32 pmI think it would be an excellent idea for the big Dick to go spend every waking minute reviewing and researching this topic.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:33 pmIt'll keep his fat ass to busy to warmonger.
What truly astonishing is they actually have the gall to try and keep spreading this sh*t.
"We've managed to lie to them so many times in the past... can't hurt to try again!"
December 6th, 2007 at 3:35 pmFrom WAPO
December 6th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
Q Mr. Vice President, this was so nice of you. Speaking of 2009, is this it for public service for you…?
A: No, Satan called up yesterday and said that I had done such a bang up job up here, that he'd like me to head up his torture division starting next week.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:36 pm... and, yes, they do think we're that stupid.
In the past 7 years, words like "outrageous" have completely lost their meaning.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pmWhat’s past is past. It only matters that it’s working:
http://mpinkeyes.wordpress.com/ 2007/ 11/ 29/ john-murtha-admits-the-surge-is-working/
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 6, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
"Working" is a relative term. If by "working" you mean the surge displaced violence just enough to shift the statistics, albeit temporarily, then yes, it's working. If by "working" you mean a sustainable long-term cessation of tribal and sectarian violence, the future doesn't look too bright. There are still 4 million IDPs and refugees who are just starting to trickle back into their homes, many inhabited by squatters in ethnically-cleansed neighborhoods. What's going to happen when they all return?
December 6th, 2007 at 3:40 pmcaption:
December 6th, 2007 at 3:41 pmIt can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
Let me guess what the conclusion of the 'Go back and do a lot of research' is,
December 6th, 2007 at 3:43 pmIt was Bill Clinton's fault.
Looks like Cheney has forgotten more about the Iraq War than he every knew in the first place.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:46 pmRight 31, if Clinton had only invaded Iraq as soon as he became president and got us bogged down in the quagmire that cheney predicted back when he was spending a lot of time under Bush 1's desk then by now, bush 2 could have declared victory and withdrawn after blaming the mess on Clinton, so yes, this is Clinton's fault. Tomorrow I'll explain how it is Clinton's fault that we have the current sub-prime lending mess. Yes, that is Clinton's fault too.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:49 pmLook at the little Republican rats scurry away from their failed war! Pathetic and sick. Good luck, guys. Rats don't run far with balls and chains on their legs.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:51 pmWhat a dick! Yeah you too Cap'n Crunch.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:51 pmThey asked him about further, "PUBLIC service"??? What a joke!!! Cheney and this whole fascist administration has been nothing but SELF-serving.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:51 pmI say let cheney run, maybe the exertion will overload his pacemaker.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:52 pmWhat truly astonishing is they actually have the gall to try and keep spreading this sh*t.
“We’ve managed to lie to them so many times in the past… can’t hurt to try again!â€
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — December 6, 2007 @ 3:35 pm
But it isn't going to work for them this time. Most Americans want the war to end, they identify it as a Republican war, and Bush isn't going to end it. Bush wrecks everything he touches, and the GOP will be just be more collateral damage suffered on his watch.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:53 pmBiden Admits War Was for Oil and Power, But Still Only Backs Impeachment After They Launch ANOTHER War of the Same Kind
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/29177
December 6th, 2007 at 3:58 pmYeah, all that "cherry picking" of Iraq intelligence must have wiped out his memory.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:59 pmFeel free to help Mr. Cheney with his memory by adding your own reminders in the comments.– t-dub
Here's a reminder:
Tomorrow morning, right after your satanic worship, go fu(k yourself!
December 6th, 2007 at 4:00 pmI AM DICK! HEAR ME SNORE!
December 6th, 2007 at 4:03 pmComment by CaptainMantastic — December 6, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
The surge is working! Sorta, kinda, and for now.
December 6th, 2007 at 4:08 pm
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 6, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
As Rove says, "nice try"
December 6th, 2007 at 4:09 pmMaybe this will job Darth's memory. Here's the Hersh link regarding what they knew and when they knew it: Here's Hersh's "smoking gun" in all of it's glory.
And, BTW, Hersh wrote the article in November 2006!! That's 13 months ago - guess he's just plain psychic, huh?
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/66/23964
December 6th, 2007 at 4:12 pmI think TP and it's posters could reconstruct the time lines which seem to elude our Veep liar.
December 6th, 2007 at 4:13 pmHere's a handy little time line - just for openers:
December 6th, 2007 at 4:14 pmhttp://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Timeline__original_restored_0125.html
Cut and paste this link and send it to everyone you know who is interested in this treasonous bunch we have in the WH. If they can't recall what they knew and when they knew it, we will reconstruct their memories for them, one brain cell at a time.
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/66/23964
December 6th, 2007 at 4:16 pmYeah, right! A lot of research my ass! Google in 1 second, the answer is "NO"!
December 6th, 2007 at 4:22 pmThis is a game
Karl Rove: It is the Democrats who pressued us for war..It is Senator Daschle. I' definite.
Andrew Card: Rove is wrong.
Cheney: I am not sure , I have to look it up.
Result: Confusion
By the time time next election arrives, a good size of the population and Fox viewers will start repeating Rove story as truth.
December 6th, 2007 at 4:35 pmWow -- ain't selective amnesia a great thing? I've seen more of that in this administration than I did during Watergate. And that's saying something.
December 6th, 2007 at 4:40 pmBy the time time next election arrives, a good size of the population and Fox viewers will start repeating Rove story as truth.
Comment by tarazan — December 6, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
That is so depressingly true. Sigh. Time to buy up all of the textbook companies so that the true history doesn't get buried! It feels like we'll be swimming against the current of revisionists' efforts for quite some time.
December 6th, 2007 at 4:40 pmComment by CaptainMantastic — December 6, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
What’s past is past. It only matters that it’s working:
What a sorry excuse for a person you are. So, according to your way of thinking, say sombody decides your family is rotten and proceeds to kill them all. When the cops catch him he simply says that "What’s past is past" and they let walk out the door.
Beautiful! you unthinking excuse for a man. Slink back under the bridge you call home, you useless piece of drek.
December 6th, 2007 at 4:46 pmHe doesn't have to do any research, the blogisphere has already done it for him. All he has to do is to read any progressive blog and he will see all his quotes, Bush's quotes, Tom Dashel's quotes, etc. They all clearly show that Bush/Chaney were pushing Congress to bring it to a vote before the election using the familiar canard of "we can't wait for the mushroom cloud" or other such nonsense. I still can't believe the Democrats fell for it, though.
December 6th, 2007 at 4:54 pmcheney is right about everything, except who was doing the "pushing". of course, the neo-cons were pushing, not the democrats.
but most of the democrats were on board.
the good ones weren't.....
and those are the ones who will take the presidency....(hopefully).
ron paul/dennis kucinich '08
December 6th, 2007 at 4:55 pmHe didn't forget anything he knows it was his plan and even the news overseas has proof it was a US/Saudi plan for 9/11. Yes people that why you saw so many Saudis as bombers. Yes the paid terrorist were paid by the US to do what they did. When the full story comes out about this Administration it would be better for all the White House criminals to have memory lost. The sad thing is our troops are dead and they can't come back. I wonder how the Military families will feel when they find out Bush again lied and all this was a sit up to steal oil and get land for Israel.
December 6th, 2007 at 5:09 pmActually, I think that it was not a good idea for Rove to have started this in the first place. All it has succeeded in doing is to bring their lying us into the war back into focus. Just when "things are looking up" in Iraq (not really), they are bringing our memories back to when they lied us into this mess in the first place. You would think they would want to keep our attention off of their lies, rather than remind us of them.
December 6th, 2007 at 5:09 pmThe fact remains that the president and vice president could not and cannot force Congress to vote on a damn thing, especially when the Congress was being led by the Democrats at the time.
You are correct, they could not "force" the Democrats to vote on it, but they could and did "scare" them into voting on it. They did it the same way they scared the Democrats into voting on the Anti-Patriot Act, the FISA bill and the other ridiculous bills the Democrats have voted on. The Republiscums are a party with no morals and ethics and the Democrats are a party with no courage or balls.
December 6th, 2007 at 5:12 pmA piss poor strawman there DC. NO one has claimed Bush "forced" a vote. The argument is about whether Bushies pushed hard for a vote before the election, as opposed to the other way around. This rewrite of history attempt by wingnuts is laughable.
December 6th, 2007 at 5:12 pmThe next war is Kosavo and Serbia ( Europe and Russia), Its already started Cheney let Iran off for a year , thats all
December 6th, 2007 at 5:23 pmCaptainMantastic and the other idiotic Republicans always attempt to cover for their own mistakes and incompetence by stating that "What is past is past, only the present counts."
We already know that CaptainMantastic already has serious sexual identity problems and insecurity over his manliness (note the choice of his name.) He, like most Republicans, understand that they really are not very smart. Thinking in broad terms eludes them. Admitting mistakes and changing conduct or beliefs simply impossible.
The past mistakes do matter. It is how you evaluate performance, capability and leadership. You look for a pattern of conduct. We have seen a pattern of conduct from this President and the incompetent fools that he has chosen to rely upon.
1. Pushed the intelligence agencies to produce a flawed NIE on WMD's.
2. Mis-underestimated Turkish opposition to staging troops in the country for a Northern offensive.
3. Followed pie-in-the-sky belief that US troops would be greeted as liberators while ignoring extensive State Department and DoD studies that predicted exactly the problems which arose in terms of sectarian violence.
4. Mis-underestimated the number of troops necessary to maintain order despite top "competent" military officials providing a far more accurate prediction of necessary troop levels.
5. Disbanded the Iraqi military and police forces despite evidence that using such indigenous manpower would have provided an immediate measure of security (as was well demonstrated by the use of Japanese and German military/police forces after WWII).
6. Failed to develop an effective reconstruction program with adequate-fiscal control and accountability. Extensive use of no bid contracts, hired labor imported from other countries and Western companies failed to develop an adequate program. Indeed, it slopped over into the Iraqi government's programs of today.
7 Inability to mobilize an adequate foreign policy to bring Iraq's neighbors into the process.
8. Failure to recognize the futility of its troop deployment plan for 5 years prior to instituting an appropriate anti-insurgency policy.
The past shows that this administration has repeatedly shown an inability to realistically assess and plan for military conditions on the ground. This administration has shown the inability to listen to or to accept recommendations from those with far more experience and expertise in this arena than the pretend Texas Yahoo and Cowboy that serves as our president. This administration has yet to really acknowledge any mistakes on its part. (Only generalities such as: some mistakes were made, did not know, could not foresee and other such language to minimize the leadership and intellectual failures.)
No, CaptainMantastic, you are a limp ****** moron who believes that the surge has worked. YOU ARE A MORONIC FOOL! Murtha did not say that the surge worked. He said that its military goals had succeeded (as most liberals would agree) but that none of the political goals had advanced. Indeed, he said that the failure of the administration and the Iraqi government to meet that political goals (for which the surge was to buy time) meant that the US should start the process to redeploy. THUS MANTASTIC IS A +++++++ LIAR. Indeed, US military commanders all concede that the surge does not constitute success. Success can only come with reconcilliation and political procdess. None of this has been seen.
December 6th, 2007 at 5:32 pmDear Mr. I'd-Have-to-do-a-lot-of-research Cheney,
Research can be done on this fairly quickly. The Library of Congress is just down the street and will gladly do the research for you.
The events were in all the newspapers, so all they have to do is search a newspaper database. Will take them 10 minutes tops.
Don't even need to carry a shotgun with you.
December 6th, 2007 at 5:51 pmThis thing is still not working for you Teenfluffer - you have 0.00% effect on anyone's thinking. Congratulations.
December 6th, 2007 at 5:51 pmThere is something almost farcical about the Bush supporters now as opposed to 4 years ago.
Back then, the authorization for the use of force was a patriotic thing to do, and those damn "appeasers", "traitors", "terrorist lovers" Democrats better toe the Leader's line and vote yes on it.
Fast forward four years and it's, ah, oh, well, the vote was bipartisan, and Congress cannot be pushed to vote on anything if they don't want to.
This change of attitude was only made possible by the fact that the occupation of Iraq is an unqualified disaster, and these die-hard Bush loyalists are trying oh so hard to blame the mess on everyone else.
As the saying goes: "Victory has many fathers, while defeat is an orphan".
December 6th, 2007 at 5:56 pmYou're really not demonstrating much knowledge or insight as to how the political process works, dc. A couple more years of study (that doesn't include watching Fox) and you'll be fit to come back and comment on some of this stuff. Until then, you're just tipping your hand - letting too many people know how much you don't know, and they're going to use that against you, for sure.
December 6th, 2007 at 6:34 pmI'd rather not have any interaction with you at all, to tell you the unvarnished truth.
December 6th, 2007 at 6:43 pmPerhaps if the Repukes would stop obstructing everything, they would have. But no, the lockstep lemmings have backed up our National Embarrassment at every turn.
Which I fervently hope will lead them straight into political suicide and relegation to permanent minority status.
December 6th, 2007 at 6:49 pmoops, I'm having another "tee-hee" moment.
let's have a chat after next fall's elections, mmm'k?
December 6th, 2007 at 7:02 pmuh, yeah. right. whatever...
December 6th, 2007 at 7:47 pm...this is getting to be like one of those conversations with a way-too-drunk guy at a bar....no idea where it's going, how it got started, or how to bring it to an end and get back to the people you came with....
December 6th, 2007 at 7:59 pmComment by DreamCrusher — December 6, 2007 @ 7:15 pm
Oh, I’ll savor the moment a Democrat gets elected, and they, to your horror, decide to stay in Iraq. Especially if it’s Hillary.
Boy, DC, talk about "sour grapes"! You will savor the moment?? How bad is that. What side are you on anyway?? Or haven't you decided yet?
All your little dreams will be crushed.
Ooooooh, would that give you an org... er thrill to rub your... er... hands as you fantasize about crushing someone elses dreams? You can tell us about it if you want to. We are all waiting to hear...
December 6th, 2007 at 8:08 pm"Oh, I’ll savor the moment a Democrat gets elected, and they, to your horror, decide to stay in Iraq. Especially if it’s Hillary."
All along, Bush has set this up as an operation too big to fail. But it's failing anyway, due to atrocious planning. The next president will be left with the debacle Bush started, and it will be years before Bush's failure is undone. Just like His father left Bill Clinton holding the bag in Somalia.
"All your little dreams will be crushed. All because you couldn’t see through the charade that the Democrats are playing with you liberal naifs."
Comment by DreamCrusher
Dealing with a 2 trillion debt run up by the spend-and-borrow republicans, delousing the various government agencies of Bushies, and restoring the rule of law is what I dream of. And I'll laugh my sodden ass off, when the next president raises your taxes to pay for your little wargasm.
December 6th, 2007 at 8:25 pm#78 Comment by DreamCrusher — December 6, 2007 @ 8:20 pm
The two parties are playing everyone for fools. Only when more people wake up to this fact can we take America back and fulfill the potential of the nation.
OK, I'll bite this time. What is your plan to "take America back and fulfill the potential of the nation." It is not, according to you" to be done through the two parties. Right?
December 6th, 2007 at 9:06 pmDreamcatcher says
Really? Then why do lefty bloggers continue to state that Bush forced the vote on Iraq then?
Please provide quotes from prominent lefty bloggers who say Bush "forced" a vote on Iraq Res. before the 2002 election.
I don't excuse Tom Daschle for giving in to pressure of Bush and greater wingnuttia claiming Dem cowardice if they didn't vote before the 2002 election. Again, for wingnut cognitive dissonance, Rove was saying that Bush didn't want a quick vote and tried to dissuade dems from having a vote before the election. That claim is total bullshit.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:10 pmThis fat facist pig should be arrested!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:30 pm"U.S. Will Take Action Against Iraq, Bush Says," Washington Post, March 14, 2002
Apparently WaPo meant "Daschle" -- perhaps spell-check wasn't working that day.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:45 pm" i don't recall".....what a surprise
December 6th, 2007 at 9:51 pmDC
Take yourself some Troll lessons and when your shown to be wrong don't then claim that everyone else is wrong too. It's so, well, wingnutty of you to do that.
December 6th, 2007 at 9:56 pmThe Germans wised up and outlawed the Nazi party. When are we going to wise up and outlaw the Republican party?
December 6th, 2007 at 11:16 pmHe is so over . . . and is seen as purely worthless and meaningless.
Couldn't happen to a more deserving war-pig.
Too bad he's not treated like the federal offender that he clearly is.
December 6th, 2007 at 11:52 pmDC
Here is your first post in it;s entirety.
First you come out blazing that dem bloggers keep saying Bush "forced" them to hold a pre-election vote. Then, when I asked for a quote from a dem blogger to that effect, you couldn't provide one and blathered how you'd claimed Rove was just as wrong as dems. The inner tubes don't forget.
DC, your the kind of guy who climbs a tree and slings acorns down at the world below and for all that your just a guy stuck in a tree going nowhere, doing nothing.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:52 amI don't know that quote and picture makes me think - Cheney might be in early stage Alhemizers -
Could explain his flip flop on cannot invade Iraq - can invade Iraq
December 7th, 2007 at 4:04 pm"Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States." -- Joe Lieberman, August, 2002
"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002
"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002
"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002
"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct 2002
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002
"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998
Plus there are many, many more like that from democrats...
December 7th, 2007 at 4:31 pm92 - so?
(couldn't resist flippin ya a classic troll response to your classic troll post)
December 7th, 2007 at 5:15 pm