Haaretz: Israelis knew of Iran NIE before Bush?
According to Haaretz, Israel has known about the Iran NIE “for more than a month. The first information on it was passed on to Defense Minister Ehud Barak, and to Shaul Mofaz, who is the minister responsible for the strategic dialog with the Americans. The issue was also discussed at the Annapolis summit by Barak and U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, and it seems also between Bush and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.” But Bush claims he didn’t get briefed on the NIE until last Wednesday.
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That should not be possible
December 6th, 2007 at 12:17 pmThey so wished Iran had nukes. Now there isn’t a good reason to kill them.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:20 pmfight your own fu*king war israel.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:22 pmThey so wished Iran had nukes. Now there isn’t a good reason to kill them.
Comment by ForTruth
Yes, this is certainly bad news for people who love war, and were hoping for another one.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:22 pmThe Israelis didn’t know about the NIE before Bush did.
No, Bush is just a lying sack of crap.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:24 pmmore than a month, less than a year and say, a few weeks? They knew the same day it was out in November of last year. Haaretz is the more liberal of the major papers and dared print this, even though they know it happened a year ago?
December 6th, 2007 at 12:24 pmHaaretz , Oh well
does Haaretz also mention Isreal has stolen 223 building sites from Palestine , What No
Haaretz is the biggest piece of shite newspaper money can buy
December 6th, 2007 at 12:24 pmThat should not be possible
Comment by Bush Cover Ups — December 6, 2007 @ 12:17 pm
It’s not, BushCo knew they’re just doing the usual, lying about it.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:26 pmI think that headline qualifies for this year’s winner of the “No Shit!” award…
I mean seriously, anyone who has been paying attention that last 7 years knows that it is Israel that is driving our foregn policy; it is Israel that wants Iran taken out, and our ‘leaders’ march in lockstep.
I say let’s stop calling the neocons neocons. Rather, I would refer to them as “The American Zionist Party”, or the AZP.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:28 pmIf every intelligence agency around the globe knew about this then Bush certainly knew. He just chose to ignore the findings while they remained classified and continued to lie to the American people that Iran had an active nuclear weapons program.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:32 pmIsrael knew because they spy on our spies.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:33 pmEveryone knows there a hundreds if not thousands of Israeli double agents in top levels of our government.
Just Google “AIPAC/Franklin Spy” if you want to know more.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:38 pmIf every intelligence agency around the globe knew about this then Bush certainly knew. He just chose to ignore the findings while they remained classified and continued to lie to the American people that Iran had an active nuclear weapons program.
Comment by mettycat
I agree. I think they kept lying because they felt confident they could pressure the intelligence community into altering the report, like they did with Iraq, except this time it didn’t work.
And now they’ve got egg on their face. Again.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:38 pmWe need a rephrase: What did the President lie about, and when did he lie about it?
December 6th, 2007 at 12:39 pmAnyone with dual citizenship with Isreal should not be allowed to work for US government. Easy squeezy. Pick one, you can’t have it both ways.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:41 pmRegardless, if Isreal decides that Iran is still a threat to their existence, and chooses a pre-emptive strike to neutralize that threat, the United States will be both legally and morally bound to provide material support to Isreal if such support is deemed necessary.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
They would be neither legally, nor morally bound to support and illegal act of agression by Isreal against a country that has not attacked them. It’s not a pre-emptive attack unless their is EVIDENCE that they are about to be attacked.
Having said that, I think the US would GLEEFULLY help anyway, because basicly this administration WANTS a war with Iran and would happily fight a proxy war if they know that’s all they’re gonna get.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:44 pmRegardless, if Isreal decides that Iran is still a threat to their existence, and chooses a pre-emptive strike to neutralize that threat, the United States will be both legally and morally bound to provide material support to Isreal if such support is deemed necessary.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
mmm…the UN Charter forbids the threat or use of force.
We know how US and Israel regards international law, but nonetheless that would be ILLEGAL.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:45 pmI don’t trust the USA nor the USA has any international credibility, but I most certainly and strognly DO NOT TRUST ISRAEL!!!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 12:46 pmRegardless, if Isreal decides that Iran is still a threat to their existence, and chooses a pre-emptive strike to neutralize that threat, the United States will be both legally and morally bound to provide material support to Isreal if such support is deemed necessary.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 12:38 pm
I’m sorry, but by what bizarre reading of international law do you conclude that the US is legally bound to support Israel if they attack another country?
December 6th, 2007 at 12:49 pmRegardless, if Isreal decides that Iran is still a threat to their existence, and chooses a pre-emptive strike to neutralize that threat, the United States will be both legally and morally bound to provide material support to Isreal if such support is deemed necessary.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 12:38 pm
An Israeli attack on Iran would not be a pre-emptive strike. It would be an unprovoked act of aggression. This is the same linguistic crap you people used before the “pre-emptive” invasion of Iraq. It’s still a lie.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:50 pmI’d say no one with dual citizenship should be permitted access to ANY proprietary US data at all. No security clearances, no access, no briefings, nothing. Period.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:51 pmThe President of Iran has already stated that Isreal will be wiped from the face of the earth. Thus, Iran has already provided the evidence you require.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
No he didn’t. Stop lying.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:52 pmDefine “get briefed” . . . ???? Is that it? There was no formal dog and pony show? [Hence ‘not briefed’?]
December 6th, 2007 at 12:52 pmThe President of Iran has already stated that Isreal will be wiped from the face of the earth. Thus, Iran has already provided the evidence you require.
That being said, we can now count on your full support for a pre-emptive strike against Iran?
Comment by O. Bigfoot
That is retoric. That is not evidence of an attack and you know.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:54 pmFirst of all, maroons, it’s not Isreal, it’s Israel. If you’re going to hate it, at least spell it right.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:57 pmSecond, Israel doesn’t drive U.S. foreign policy; oil does. Specifically, the oil companies and other corporations that need oil and profit from it, or from the wars caused by Bushco. Bush and Cheney don’t care about Israel, and I think the neo-cons are useful idiots for the oil companies. The neo-cons make it about our ally, Israel, which is more acceptable to most Americans than making war for oil.
And if things go bad, Israel and the neo-cons are better targets for Americans’ hatred than Bushco and the oil companies, as far as Bushco and the oil companies are concerned. It’s only good public relations.
Also, if there are thousands of Israeli spies in the U.S. government, how many communists are in the State Dept.? Angels on the head of a pin?
That is retoric. That is not evidence of an attack and you know.
Comment by DigDug — December 6, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
And it’s mistranslated rhetoric at that. “The regime occupying Jerusalem will one day disappear from the pages of history” is a far different quote from “we will wipe Israel off the map.”
December 6th, 2007 at 12:58 pmIran already attacks Israel via its proxies, Hezbollah and Hamas.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:00 pmSince it has already been determined that Iran has threatened the existence of Isreal, let’s move past this and accept that if Isreal decides on a pre-emptive strike, it will be both legal, and ethical. That being said, do you now support Isreal’s right to protect itself?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 12:57 pm
No, I don’t support it and I don’t accept the determination underlying it. An unprovoked attack on Iran by Israel would be a violation of international law.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:01 pmDoes Hezbollah’s possession of thousands of rockets and missiles count as a Iranian threat to Israel? Well, if Canada had thousands of rockets and missiles pointed at us, and they had used them a summer or two before, do you think the U.S. wouldn’t be justified in attacking Canada and the country providing the missiles?
December 6th, 2007 at 1:04 pmIran already attacks Israel via its proxies, Hezbollah and Hamas.
Comment by NoOneYouKnow — December 6, 2007 @ 1:00 pm
Iran offered to recognize Israel in 2003, as well as shift Hezbollah to a purely political entity (Hamas has already done this) and stop nuclear enrichment. We told them to go screw themselves.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:05 pmThe President of Iran has already stated that Isreal will be wiped from the face of the earth. Thus, Iran has already provided the evidence you require.
That being said, we can now count on your full support for a pre-emptive strike against Iran?
Comment by O. Bigfoot
That is retoric. That is not evidence of an attack and you know.
Comment by DigDug
Agreed. I had read the comment made by the Iranian President. It is only rhetoric. Besides, Ahmadinejad was refering to a regime change in Israel as I understand it and not this “wipe them off the map” that some mention. There is a big difference between the two.
In any regard, Ahmadinejad can say what he wants because he is only a pitchman with no real power. The authority to carry out any Iranian military action anywhere lays with the Ayatollah and the Council of Elders alone.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:05 pm“The regime occupying Jerusalem will one day disappear from the pages of history†is a far different quote from “we will wipe Israel off the map.â€
Read it, learn it, then repeat it again, stupid man-boy-sasquatch-dick-breath.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:06 pmYour rhetorical idiocy is truly boundless.
The President of Iran has already stated that Isreal will be wiped from the face of the earth. Thus, Iran has already provided the evidence you require.
That being said, we can now count on your full support for a pre-emptive strike against Iran?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
Repeating a lie not only doesn’t make it true, bigfoot, but just makes you a liar. Nothing new, but just so you know that we know that you’re a liar. the president of Iran NEVER said what you have made up. And your eagerness to start another illegal war just points up your absolute cowardice.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:06 pmDoes Hezbollah’s possession of thousands of rockets and missiles count as a Iranian threat to Israel? Well, if Canada had thousands of rockets and missiles pointed at us, and they had used them a summer or two before, do you think the U.S. wouldn’t be justified in attacking Canada and the country providing the missiles?
Comment by NoOneYouKnow — December 6, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
If Canada had been brutally attacked by us a summer or two before, they’d be completely justified in pointing those thousands of rockets and missiles at us.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:08 pmNo, I don’t support it and I don’t accept the determination underlying it. An unprovoked attack on Iran by Israel would be a violation of international law.
Comment by toasterhead — December 6, 2007 @ 1:01 pm
and under international law, we would be called upon to defend Iran and attack Israel.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:08 pmSince AIPAC runs this white house, is it any wonder that they would have the info before the people. The question is - did they have it before Bush. If so (which is highly doubtful since he knew of it for a year or more) then we can claim that Israel is running this country.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:09 pmYou can be forgiven once for your lack of knowledge on the subject, but don’t let it happen again.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 1:07 pm
Repeating your lies shows y9our ignorance, bigfoot. Don;t let it happen again.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:09 pmbigfoot’s know;edge of international law is the same as his quotient of courage: zero.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:10 pmYou can be forgiven once for your lack of knowledge on the subject, but don’t let it happen again.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 1:07 pm
What part of “stop lying” did you not understand, Bigfoot?
Ahmedinejad’s quote was mistranslated, and the mistranslation was and continues to be widely disseminated. He never called for Israel to be “wiped off the map.” Farsi has no such idiom.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:11 pmThe President of Iran has already stated that Isreal will be wiped from the face of the earth.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
That’s actually a mis-quote of a mis-interpreted quote. Read this wikipedia article, it explains what was actually said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#.22Wiped_off_the_page_of_time.22_translation
“The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time”
Sounds like he’s talking about regime change. You’ll also not that he doesn’t say anything about any plan for Iran to bring about that regime change.
At any rate, even if what you suggest were true –which it’s not– it is still only retoric and evidence of nothing.
Evidence of an attack would be something like troops massing along the border.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:11 pmThe President of Iran has already stated that Isreal will be wiped from the face of the earth. Thus, Iran has already provided the evidence you require.
That being said, we can now count on your full support for a pre-emptive strike against Iran?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
Well, now, Obiggie - our very own Dear Leader Chimpy has stated on MANY occasions that he was going to capture Osama bin Laden “dead or alive”…
Simply saying stuff does NOT make it fact, Obuddyboy. Like …DUH.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:12 pmDoes Hezbollah’s possession of thousands of rockets and missiles count as a Iranian threat to Israel? Well, if Canada had thousands of rockets and missiles pointed at us, and they had used them a summer or two before, do you think the U.S. wouldn’t be justified in attacking Canada and the country providing the missiles?
Comment by NoOneYouKnow — December 6, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
actually, no on all counts. Unless you’re a pissy-pants neocon sucker without a brain in his head, like Bush. Or you, fpr that matter, chickenhawk. it’s amazing what big talk comes put of such weasily little rightard cowards who come here to fling their ignorant shit around. Look, you want to fight? ENLIST, you pansies.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:13 pmOh, and by the way, it’s IsrAel.
Sheesh. Stupid trolls.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:13 pmYou can be forgiven once for your lack of knowledge on the subject, but don’t let it happen again.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
You can speak as if you’re on an ivory tower, when in reality you’re drowning in your own verbal diarrhea.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:13 pmAGAIN,
for the trolls, lurkers, and faithful:
December 6th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
You can speak as if you’re on an ivory tower, when in reality you’re drowning in your own verbal diarrhea.
Comment by DieNowForPeace — December 6, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
bigfoot is an expert at pretending. he pretends to be brave, but runs away at the first sign of a fight, he pretends to be an American, but supports breaking American laws and shredding the Constitution; he pretends to know what he’s talking about, and always runs off having had his ass handed to him. he really is cute, though, like a little cowardly Xmas troll.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:16 pmThus, I am grateful we have a President who truly understands the issue, and who does not base his steadfast decisions upon popularity contests.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
No, instead he happily goes abput losing three wars at the same time, destroying America’s military and economy, and making the USA a debtor nation and a waorldwide laughingstock. Only a traitor like you could celebrate all of that. Radical Muslim sects have no chance of doing any damage to the USA as long as a Democrat leads the country. it wasn’t until bush was selected that 9/11 was so easily accomplished. That’s a fact, not one of your treasonous opinions, and it’s a fact that will be forever part of the history of the worst, most cowardly, incompetent boob to ever steal two elections. You will never live that down, inspite of all the lies you come up with. and only a snall handful of cowards like you are afraid of a few crazy Muslim extremists. The rest of us know better. You’re a coward; that’s all that you’ve made clear with your petty lies and fearmongering. Chickenhawk chickenshit.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:20 pmThus, I am grateful we have a President who truly understands the issue, and who does not base his steadfast decisions upon popularity contests.
oh, and by the way, your steadfast deserter-in-chief is backing down. Right now. and has put another charge against him up on the board for his trial at the Hague. Enjoy the hangings, bigfoot, maybe you can be part of them! Sure to be festive, as the majority of America cheers the finish of the Bush Treason cabal!
December 6th, 2007 at 1:23 pmSeriously,
Can anyone understand how this little man-boy-sasquatch hasn’t blowed himself up yet, from so much FEAR??????????????????????
BOO!
Now get up off the floor, pansy.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:24 pmBloodthirsty much?
bu$hitler knew before he didn’t know.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:30 pmIran has made it’s intentions known in very plain language easily understood by anyone who cares to read and comprehend.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Oh, my…backpedaling, aren’t you?
Admit you were wrong, you have been fed with a misquoting that an Arabic newsource used to translate a Farsi statement. Tool.
And even more, what if Mahmoud said that? US has said that it plans to use “strategical” nukes (whatever that means) just as Israel (yeah, first the a, then the e) has said that it has “special weaponry” to use against Iran.
Iran should strike preemptively according to your idiotic and twisted international law.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:31 pmDoesn’t surprise me at all.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:32 pmAIPAC tentacles are everywhere throughout this ‘government’ of ours.
Gosh, toaster just mopped the floor with Bigfoot. Sad.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:36 pmWhile you’re goosestepping to the martial music, flatfoot, the generals are saying our military is broken, worn out and will take a decade to repair and replenish.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:36 pmHeckuva victory, Viva Bushit!
Assuming of course that when the six months that Sadr gave the surge to work is over that the Iraqi gummint will somehow do an about face and start the process of reconciliation. Good luck with that victory, largeped.
Rest assured, Iran will be dealt with eventually. It is not a matter of if, only a matter of when.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
And then you will go after China and Russia… oh, yeah…
December 6th, 2007 at 1:39 pmGosh, toaster just mopped the floor with Bigfoot. Sad.
Comment by Juan C. — December 6, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
No no no - I just said that I hope the words of warmongers like Bigfoot will vanish from the pages of the Internet.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:40 pmThere’s a military expression that best describes any attempt by Israel to launch a strike against Iran:
“mind-numbingly stupid”
December 6th, 2007 at 1:47 pmIran is a big fish in a little pond. We know where they are, and we know how to eliminate them if need be.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
Why would we ever need to “eliminate” a country of 70 million people?
December 6th, 2007 at 1:47 pmWe know where they are,
Comment by O. Bigfoot
For real?
December 6th, 2007 at 1:50 pmFor real?
Comment by Juan C. — December 6, 2007 @ 1:50 pm
We do know where Iran is, actually, and are pretty sure how to get there. You go to Pakistan and take a left. If you hit a quagmire you’ve gone too far.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:54 pmThe Israelis didn’t know about the NIE before Bush did.
No, Bush is just a lying sack of crap.
Comment by Leftside Anni
Funny how little we know about Israel. About their activities. About what they REALLY and SINCERELY think about us. We are in Iraq becos they wanted it. And how many candles have they lighted for our dead soldiers???
December 6th, 2007 at 2:02 pmThey collect the tax from us. Share the tax. Get the lion cut. They break the law, and never get to go to Jail. Is it the treason committed by AIPAC? The nukes Israel got today are illegally obtained. Stolen military secrets by Jewish members of the Nixon govt. Big treason, and alot of the members involved are today hawks, medal winners, big tycoons, national darlings.
America long feel into the control of Israel. We are nothing but a big factory, body barracks, and slave mine to them. It is only Israeli that involved in what is called white slavery. White women from europe, and the US are lured down there, and they are never allowed to leave. They are masters, and others are never to be!
We are resources to them. And people like Cheney, H’lary and Bush and members of the congress will continue to be their puppets.
Please, H’lary should never under any condition be voted in. Shes the most corrupted among the entire hopefuls! The most black-amable by the Israelis.
Anyhoo, I’d like to stay and play with you all some more, but I gotta go make some money and get some checks in the bank. Don’t worry though, I’ll be back!
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 6, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
His Hos worked OT last night and he needs to see his pusher…
December 6th, 2007 at 2:03 pmWe know where they are,
Comment by O. Bigfoot
For real?
Comment by Juan C. — December 6, 2007 @ 1:50 pm
Somewhat north, east and south of Tikrit, right?
December 6th, 2007 at 2:03 pmO. Bigfoot must be a republican hes far too stupid to be a massad agent
December 6th, 2007 at 2:14 pmmessage to isreal
What are you going to do when there are more Palestinians than Israelis under Israeli control, and they demand equal rights? When the US public gets tired of sending eighteen-year olds to die for Israel? Tired of sending 3 billion a year in aid? Tired of listening to all the crap about existential threats when we all know the name of the game is geopolitical and economic dominance?
When your last allies in the whole entire world are Bush (somewhere around 25% approval in his own country), Cheney (10%), and the Christian end-of-the-worlders (in desperate need of psychological treatment), you know you’re doomed.
December 6th, 2007 at 2:28 pmMore and more Americans are catching on to who was it that benefits from the Iraq invasion. More and more Americans are catching on to who is agitating for war with Iran. AIPAC has its work cut out.
Israel’s Amen Corner in the US is coming under scrutiny, big time. The Pentagon/Intelligence NIE is a start, but more is to come.
Already, the neocon candidates-Giuliani, Clinton, the pathetic shill, McCain, are coming under intense scrutiny for their war pimping, with Giuliani getting special attention for his Podhoretz pander.
Good times.
December 6th, 2007 at 2:30 pmThis was by RScully
Mossad failed to find out anything meaningful about Iraqi WMD, though they surely generated some false signals to help the vice-president build his case for war.
Despite vast effort, Mossad has failed to find a single thread that leads verifiably from all these dead Lebanese Christian politicians to Damascus. Mossad has consistently underestimated Hezbollah’s strength and it failed to provide the IAF with any useful targeting information in the recent war.
Mossad’s interventions in Lebanon have all backfired - as indeed have the IDF’s. Just as their interventions in the Occupied Territories have all backfired. How many Americans know that it was Mossad who gave vital early backing to Hamas, thinking they would be a useful counterweight to the PLO? Hamas is to Mossad what Bin Laden is to the CIA.
The Americans are vastly better placed than the Israelis to gather intelligence about Iran. They are the masters of signals intelligence, often the only way into a secretive state like Iran. They have a large Iranian-American population to use for translation, infiltration, picking up rumours from relatives in the old country etc. Iranian defectors go to the US to share their information…can you imagine an Iranian defector going to the Mossad?
And the Americans know almost nothing.
Mossad is nothing special, it’s more gung-ho than other agencies, but don’t confuse that with cleverness. And the IDF is no longer anything special either. It’s been slowly rotting for 20 years. The occupation has broken its spirit. Soldiers were openly insulting their officers after the Lebanon debacle - I saw it. Everyone knows that occupying civilians eventually wrecks armies.
Israel is a third-rate conventional power with a lot of nuclear weapons and a large foreign fan club, nothing more.
December 6th, 2007 at 2:37 pmDo you believe Israel gained this knowledge by spying on the U.S.?
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1236
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December 6th, 2007 at 2:41 pmDoes anyone believe that with implications as big as the NIE, that no one briefed anyone prior to the official publication date ?
December 6th, 2007 at 2:49 pmIt obvious the Israeli had prior information. gwb is second hand.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:16 pmSure the knew about it before Bush. The Mosaad tape records all the Presidents phone calls. How do you think they blackmail the White House and the Congress?
December 6th, 2007 at 4:03 pmretired AF Col. Gardner said in April “In fact, we’ve probably been executing military operations inside Iran for at least 18 months. The evidence is overwhelming.”
So we’re killing Iranians without any declaration.
Hey Bigfoot, nuke the US, if int’l law means anything to you. Not!
December 6th, 2007 at 6:40 pmC’mon, Bigfoot, where’s your outrage?
If what Col. Gardner said is true then the US invaded Iran and is killing Iranians without any threat from Iran against the US and without any declaration of war.
Or are the US and Israel special and above the law in your view?
December 6th, 2007 at 6:56 pmWar criminal Shaul Mofaz is himself an Iranian. He must have a lot of resentment of his country of origin.
The Mossad is the Israeli Gestapo, and the original was rather effective at many things. I guess the Mossad aspires to that level.
BTW, did you notice that the television series NCIS spreads Israeli/Mossad propaganda? One of the “heros” is a Mossad assassin who for some reason is integrated into the team. Of course it is no question that she might be an Israeli spy and terrorist.
December 7th, 2007 at 7:28 amIf the left think Israel will bow to the kkk un and allow the leaders of iran to finish hitlers mission of killing every Jew then your sadly mistaken. International Law only applies to countries defending Western Free Civilization and seem never to apply to Socialist/radical sharia law islam. The bottom line is that you leftest will never defeat Israel or Western Civilization and you might as well get Used to it.
December 7th, 2007 at 9:02 amThe US will defend and aid Israel keep Nazi Sharia from enslaving the world.
Who were the Commissars under Stalin who murdered by some estimates 40 million people (Russians, Poles, Ukranians)
http://www.zundelsite.org/ english/ jews-under-stalin/ index.html
Who started WWII Against Germany
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/ scriptorium/ english/ archives/ articles/ jdecwar.html
Who dragged us into ANOTHER war in the Middle East:
“Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I’ll tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since 1990 – it’s the threat against Israel,â€â€¦â€And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don’t care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn’t want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell,â€
- Phillip Zelikow – President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), 2001 – 2003
“A stronger Israel is very much imbedded in the rationale for war with Iraq. The destruction of Saddam’s Iraq will not only remove an enemy of long standing, but will also change the basic power equation in the region.†- Joe Klein Time Magazine, Feb 5, 2003
“American Jews are responsible for pushing the country to war with Iraq”…”If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we would not be doing this,” –
Congressman James P. Moran Jr., Virginia
“Those who favor this attack {against Iraq} now will tell you candidly, and privately, that it is probably true that Saddam Hussein is no threat to the United-States. But they are afraid at some point he might decide if he had a nuclear weapon to use it against Israel.†- General Wesley Kanne Clark, August 2002
“The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history†– Ari Shavit, April 5, 2003 Haaretz News Service-Israel
“With Iraq no threat, why invade a sovereign country? The answer: President Bush’s policy to secure Israel.†“My own answer is that the lie {that a massively-armed Iraq posed a grave and imminent threat to the U.S.} was fabricated by the neo-conservatives in the administration whose first loyalty is to Israel and its interests and who wanted the United-States to smash Iraq because it was the biggest potential threat to Israel in the region. They are known to have been pushing for the war with Iraq since at least 1996, but they could not make an effective case for it until after Sept 11, 2001†-Senator Ernest F. Hollings, U.S. Senator South Carolina-May 2004
“For whose benefit these endless wars in a region that holds nothing vital to America save oil, which the Arabs must sell us to survive? Who would benefit from a war of civilizations between the West and Islam? Answer: one nation, one leader, one party. Israel, Sharon, Likud.†Patrick Buchanan, March 2004
“What has been happening over the years is a predictable routine of foreign visitation from the head of the Israeli government. The Israeli puppeteer travels to Washington. The Israeli puppeteer meets with the puppet in the White House, and then moves down Pennsylvania Avenue, and meets with the puppets in Congress. And then takes back billions of taxpayer dollars. It is time for the Washington puppet show to be replaced by the Washington peace show.†– Ralph Nader, consumer advocate, author and Presidential candidate, July 2004
“For Bureaucratic reasons we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction, because it was one reason everyone could agree on…“I’m not concerned about weapons of mass destruction.†- Dept Sec of Defense Paul Wolfowitz
“My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel†– Cindy Sheehan, mother of Spc. Casey Sheehan, 24, killed in Baghdad on April 4, 2004
“I think it’s the worst kept secret in Washington. That everybody - everybody I talk to in Washington has known and fully knows what their agenda was and what they were trying to do. “And one article, because I mentioned the neo-conservatives who describe themselves as neo-conservatives, I was called anti-Semitic. I mean, you know, unbelievable that that’s the kind of personal attacks that are run when you criticize a strategy and those who propose it. - Anthony Zinni, Retired General US Marine Corps, (CENTCOM)
“Israel controls the United States Senate. We should be more concerned about the United States’ interests.” - William Fulbright - US Senator and Chairman of the US Foreign Relations committee
The Jews rule the world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them.†- Mahathir Mohammed, Prime Minister of Malaysia, October 2003
“Is there any criminal act that Israel can do without being protected from criticism from the United States? If there is I haven’t seen it. And I haven’t seen it from the Bush Administration or from the Clinton Administration or from any administration before them. But when you consider the influence of Israel’s lobby and its political action committees and the more than $41 million they’ve given to Congress and the White House, is it any wonder Israel is shielded from any shame? For more than 54 years the Israelis have committed acts that no other nation would dare get away with. But even here in America, where it is not yet illegal to publicly ask the wrong questions, any public figure that does so is subjected to smears, intimidation, and the attempted destruction of his career and reputation by Jewish organizations and by the very cooperative news media.” - U.S. Brigadier General James J. David (Ret.), in an article entitled “A Passionate Attachment to Israel”
“I’ve never seen a President — I don’t care who he is — stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. If the American people understood what a grip those people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don’t have any idea what goes on.” - Admiral Thomas Moorer, Chairman US Joint Chiefs, Reagan Adm
“Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.”– Former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, October 8th, 2001
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