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	<title>Comments on: Webb: No permanent presence without Congress&#8217;s consent.</title>
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		<title>By: tombaker</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/06/webb-no-permanent-presence-without-congresss-consent/comment-page-3/#comment-4181536</link>
		<dc:creator>tombaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>130 - you have to understand that those Righties only talk like they care about the USA and the Law and the Constitution....

all that they do is what assuages their greeds or their fears

-very simple animals, they

simpler even than cavemen, I guess. lol. (no offense to you, Dan)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>130 &#8211; you have to understand that those Righties only talk like they care about the USA and the Law and the Constitution&#8230;.</p>
<p>all that they do is what assuages their greeds or their fears</p>
<p>-very simple animals, they</p>
<p>simpler even than cavemen, I guess. lol. (no offense to you, Dan)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181536', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: joe cantwell</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/06/webb-no-permanent-presence-without-congresss-consent/comment-page-3/#comment-4181452</link>
		<dc:creator>joe cantwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dc?

are you ok?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dc?</p>
<p>are you ok?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181452', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: poggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>poggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shut up, Webb.  You&#039;re like all the other wimpocrats - tough talk and threatening letters, but in the end, you capitulate like little woosies in fairy land.  Bush just has to same something like &quot;support the troops&quot;, and you Mr. Webb, will bend over again and give Bush/Cheney everything they want.  

Get lost - we need real  leaders in congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shut up, Webb.  You&#8217;re like all the other wimpocrats &#8211; tough talk and threatening letters, but in the end, you capitulate like little woosies in fairy land.  Bush just has to same something like &#8220;support the troops&#8221;, and you Mr. Webb, will bend over again and give Bush/Cheney everything they want.  </p>
<p>Get lost &#8211; we need real  leaders in congress.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181444', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DanCaveman</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/06/webb-no-permanent-presence-without-congresss-consent/comment-page-3/#comment-4181227</link>
		<dc:creator>DanCaveman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DC, JMH and all other war mongers,

Would any other country be justified in attacking and attempting to occupy the United States for the same arguments that you make to attack Iran, occupy Iraq, and threaten the other Arab nations?

If not, why are we justified?  We have attacked a sovereign nation against the will of the UN.  We continue to occupy that nation against the will of the world as well as the will of the Iraqi people.  We have Nuk - U - Lar weapons.  We torture people.  We break our treaties.  Why should the rest of the world trust us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DC, JMH and all other war mongers,</p>
<p>Would any other country be justified in attacking and attempting to occupy the United States for the same arguments that you make to attack Iran, occupy Iraq, and threaten the other Arab nations?</p>
<p>If not, why are we justified?  We have attacked a sovereign nation against the will of the UN.  We continue to occupy that nation against the will of the world as well as the will of the Iraqi people.  We have Nuk &#8211; U &#8211; Lar weapons.  We torture people.  We break our treaties.  Why should the rest of the world trust us?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181227', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: joe cantwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe cantwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Jason M. Hendler â€” December 7, 2007 @ 9:48 am

&lt;strong&gt;jason, why do you hate the troops?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by Jason M. Hendler â€” December 7, 2007 @ 9:48 am</p>
<p><strong>jason, why do you hate the troops?</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181191', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: joe cantwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe cantwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Many soldiers already have, so, Iâ€™m coo.&quot;

Comment by DreamCrusher â€” December 6, 2007 @ 9:46 pm

&quot;coo&quot;? typo, dc. 

you do that when you get desperate, have you noticed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Many soldiers already have, so, Iâ€™m coo.&#8221;</p>
<p>Comment by DreamCrusher â€” December 6, 2007 @ 9:46 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;coo&#8221;? typo, dc. </p>
<p>you do that when you get desperate, have you noticed?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181189', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: toasterhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>toasterhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;True, Congress can declare war, and then Congress can end a war either by declaring victory or surrender.

â€¦. so, by all means, in front of the whole nation, please, please, please try to declare surrender ahead of an election cycle.

Comment by Jason M. Hendler â€” December 7, 2007 @ 9:48 am&lt;/i&gt;

Victory and surrender are meaningless terms in an occupation and counterinsurgency and you know it.  The end strategy is inevitably withdrawal.  The question is - do we want to withdraw with 4,000 soldiers killed or 10,000 soldiers killed? 

 You seem to prefer the latter.  Why do you hate the troops, Jason?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>True, Congress can declare war, and then Congress can end a war either by declaring victory or surrender.</p>
<p>â€¦. so, by all means, in front of the whole nation, please, please, please try to declare surrender ahead of an election cycle.</p>
<p>Comment by Jason M. Hendler â€” December 7, 2007 @ 9:48 am</i></p>
<p>Victory and surrender are meaningless terms in an occupation and counterinsurgency and you know it.  The end strategy is inevitably withdrawal.  The question is &#8211; do we want to withdraw with 4,000 soldiers killed or 10,000 soldiers killed? </p>
<p> You seem to prefer the latter.  Why do you hate the troops, Jason?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181151', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason M. Hendler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason M. Hendler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, Congress can declare war, and then Congress can end a war either by declaring victory or surrender.

.... so, by all means, in front of the whole nation, please, please, please try to declare surrender ahead of an election cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, Congress can declare war, and then Congress can end a war either by declaring victory or surrender.</p>
<p>&#8230;. so, by all means, in front of the whole nation, please, please, please try to declare surrender ahead of an election cycle.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181134', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DanCaveman</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanCaveman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DreamCrusher -

Here is some South Korea information from Wikipedia -

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;A still functioning UN Command controls all forces in South Korea, including the US forces and the entire Korean military.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DreamCrusher -</p>
<p>Here is some South Korea information from Wikipedia -</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;A still functioning UN Command controls all forces in South Korea, including the US forces and the entire Korean military.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181085', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Pete Bogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Bogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with Congress&#039; consent? how about &quot;under any circumstances&quot;(?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with Congress&#8217; consent? how about &#8220;under any circumstances&#8221;(?)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181077', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DanCaveman</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanCaveman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Can anyone furnish me with the Congressional approval for the permanent presence in Germany, South Korea, and Japan?

Comment by DreamCrusher â€” December 6, 2007 @ 8:14 pm&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This took a whole 2 minutes of Wikipedia searching, but....

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;
&quot;Following the Battle of Okinawa and the end of World War II in 1945, Okinawa was under the United States administration for 27 years. During the trusteeship rule the USAF established numerous military bases on the Ryukyu islands.

In 1972, the U.S. government returned the islands to Japanese administration. Under the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security, the United States Forces Japan (USFJ) have maintained a large military presence. 27000 personnel, including 15000 Marines, contingents from the Navy, Army and Air Force, and their 22,000 family members are stationed in Okinawa.[2] 18% of the main island was occupied by US military bases and 75% of all USFJ bases are located in Okinawa prefecture.[3]&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Does that answer the Japan question?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>Can anyone furnish me with the Congressional approval for the permanent presence in Germany, South Korea, and Japan?</p>
<p>Comment by DreamCrusher â€” December 6, 2007 @ 8:14 pm</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This took a whole 2 minutes of Wikipedia searching, but&#8230;.</p>
<blockquote><p><em><br />
&#8220;Following the Battle of Okinawa and the end of World War II in 1945, Okinawa was under the United States administration for 27 years. During the trusteeship rule the USAF established numerous military bases on the Ryukyu islands.</p>
<p>In 1972, the U.S. government returned the islands to Japanese administration. Under the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security, the United States Forces Japan (USFJ) have maintained a large military presence. 27000 personnel, including 15000 Marines, contingents from the Navy, Army and Air Force, and their 22,000 family members are stationed in Okinawa.[2] 18% of the main island was occupied by US military bases and 75% of all USFJ bases are located in Okinawa prefecture.[3]&#8220;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Does that answer the Japan question?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181074', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: patooty</title>
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		<dc:creator>patooty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My last few posts were with the intention of educating our little piss-soaked troll named DreamCrusher.  The only dream being crushed is his dream of fascism in his lifetime.  There&#039;s nothing worse than a moron who believes he&#039;s intelligent when it comes to intellectual repartee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My last few posts were with the intention of educating our little piss-soaked troll named DreamCrusher.  The only dream being crushed is his dream of fascism in his lifetime.  There&#8217;s nothing worse than a moron who believes he&#8217;s intelligent when it comes to intellectual repartee.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181069', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: patooty</title>
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		<dc:creator>patooty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Feeney in Florida is on his way down the bunghole for his complicity and his predelection for bad boys like Abramoff.  He was also a principal in the stolen election of 2000 in Florida.  Shall I out some more for you or have you had enough?

There was this programmer in Winter Park, Florida who had a meeting with Jebbie while he was Governor before the 2000 election and the topic of their meeting was &quot;how to successfully hack a DRE&quot;....hmmmm.....more to come on this or maybe we&#039;ll wait until little bro&#039; Jebster actually is smoked out believing that he has a chance in hell of entering the political arena again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Feeney in Florida is on his way down the bunghole for his complicity and his predelection for bad boys like Abramoff.  He was also a principal in the stolen election of 2000 in Florida.  Shall I out some more for you or have you had enough?</p>
<p>There was this programmer in Winter Park, Florida who had a meeting with Jebbie while he was Governor before the 2000 election and the topic of their meeting was &#8220;how to successfully hack a DRE&#8221;&#8230;.hmmmm&#8230;..more to come on this or maybe we&#8217;ll wait until little bro&#8217; Jebster actually is smoked out believing that he has a chance in hell of entering the political arena again.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181068', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: patooty</title>
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		<dc:creator>patooty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate to throw a monkey wrench into an otherwise troll littered concept by where&#039;s the money coming from for an long-term presence in Iraq?  In fact, where&#039;s the money coming from for any of what we&#039;re doing?  How about fiscal accountability?  Or is that a term Repukes can&#039;t wrap their feeble minds around?

Oh yeah, I forgot.  China owns l/3 of us already so why not auction ourselves off to the highest bidder at this point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to throw a monkey wrench into an otherwise troll littered concept by where&#8217;s the money coming from for an long-term presence in Iraq?  In fact, where&#8217;s the money coming from for any of what we&#8217;re doing?  How about fiscal accountability?  Or is that a term Repukes can&#8217;t wrap their feeble minds around?</p>
<p>Oh yeah, I forgot.  China owns l/3 of us already so why not auction ourselves off to the highest bidder at this point?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181065', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Menehune</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/06/webb-no-permanent-presence-without-congresss-consent/comment-page-3/#comment-4181063</link>
		<dc:creator>Menehune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how Mr. Pert loved Jim Webb all those years he was a repticon. It&#039;s funny how changing an R to a D managed to change a&quot;gripping first-hand account of life in a war zone&quot; into &quot;icky pornography&quot;. Jesus still loves you, Pee, even though your a shallow liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how Mr. Pert loved Jim Webb all those years he was a repticon. It&#8217;s funny how changing an R to a D managed to change a&#8221;gripping first-hand account of life in a war zone&#8221; into &#8220;icky pornography&#8221;. Jesus still loves you, Pee, even though your a shallow liar.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181063', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Menehune</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/06/webb-no-permanent-presence-without-congresss-consent/comment-page-3/#comment-4181053</link>
		<dc:creator>Menehune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 12:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon Webb...we want the tough guy back. Weren&#039;t you going to be showing Bush &#039;the way&#039;? No more letters--there is no evidence that the President reads them anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon Webb&#8230;we want the tough guy back. Weren&#8217;t you going to be showing Bush &#8216;the way&#8217;? No more letters&#8211;there is no evidence that the President reads them anyway.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181053', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bush Cover Ups</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/06/webb-no-permanent-presence-without-congresss-consent/comment-page-3/#comment-4181045</link>
		<dc:creator>Bush Cover Ups</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 10:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>* Today: Nato meeting will discuss continuing Kosovo international force.

* Monday: Deadline for international mediators to submit report to UN secretary general who hands it to the security council. Declaration of Kosovo independence could come at any time after Monday, although Hashim Thaci, set to become Kosovo&#039;s Prime Minister, has promised to do so in consultation with US and Europe.

* 14 December: EU summit. Kosovo expects a signal from the EU on prospects for internationally-supervised independence.

* 19 December: UN security council discusses Kosovo, with Russia remaining opposed to independence.

* January: Most likely time of independence declaration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* Today: Nato meeting will discuss continuing Kosovo international force.</p>
<p>* Monday: Deadline for international mediators to submit report to UN secretary general who hands it to the security council. Declaration of Kosovo independence could come at any time after Monday, although Hashim Thaci, set to become Kosovo&#8217;s Prime Minister, has promised to do so in consultation with US and Europe.</p>
<p>* 14 December: EU summit. Kosovo expects a signal from the EU on prospects for internationally-supervised independence.</p>
<p>* 19 December: UN security council discusses Kosovo, with Russia remaining opposed to independence.</p>
<p>* January: Most likely time of independence declaration.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181045', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bush Cover Ups</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/06/webb-no-permanent-presence-without-congresss-consent/comment-page-3/#comment-4181043</link>
		<dc:creator>Bush Cover Ups</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 10:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;WHY LAY OFF IRAN CAUSE THERE A NEW WAR ON MONDAY&lt;/b&gt;

Serbs: &#039;We are defending Europe against Muslim aggression&#039; 

Kosovo&#039;s leaders have vowed to proclaim sovereignty sometime after Monday, the deadline for international envoys to report to the United Nations on a final round of talks that failed to find even a glimmer of compromise between Kosovo and Belgrade.

Washington and Brussels agree with Kosovo that further negotiations are pointless, and support independence for the 90-per cent Albanian region under the supervision of a European Union mission and the watchful eye of some 16,000 Nato peacekeepers.

But Russia supports Serbia&#039;s refusal to offer anything more than broad autonomy to the province of two million, and both nations warn that recognising a unilateral declaration of independence from Kosovo would unsettle the Balkans and embolden separatist movements everywhere. The task for the US and Europe will be to manage the independence declaration so that it is met with international recognition â€“ and not gunfire.

http://www.independent.co.uk/

IM SICK OF THIS war shit , WEVE HAD 600% MORE WAR THEN PEACE THIS CENTURY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>WHY LAY OFF IRAN CAUSE THERE A NEW WAR ON MONDAY</b></p>
<p>Serbs: &#8216;We are defending Europe against Muslim aggression&#8217; </p>
<p>Kosovo&#8217;s leaders have vowed to proclaim sovereignty sometime after Monday, the deadline for international envoys to report to the United Nations on a final round of talks that failed to find even a glimmer of compromise between Kosovo and Belgrade.</p>
<p>Washington and Brussels agree with Kosovo that further negotiations are pointless, and support independence for the 90-per cent Albanian region under the supervision of a European Union mission and the watchful eye of some 16,000 Nato peacekeepers.</p>
<p>But Russia supports Serbia&#8217;s refusal to offer anything more than broad autonomy to the province of two million, and both nations warn that recognising a unilateral declaration of independence from Kosovo would unsettle the Balkans and embolden separatist movements everywhere. The task for the US and Europe will be to manage the independence declaration so that it is met with international recognition â€“ and not gunfire.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.independent.co.uk/</a></p>
<p>IM SICK OF THIS war shit , WEVE HAD 600% MORE WAR THEN PEACE THIS CENTURY<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181043', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: VerbalKint</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/06/webb-no-permanent-presence-without-congresss-consent/comment-page-3/#comment-4181033</link>
		<dc:creator>VerbalKint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 08:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush doesn&#039;t read. Too stupid.  That is why the trolls have such a hard time defending him here.  Oh, and all the lying makes it hard too.  And the assault on the Constitution, and the war crimes....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush doesn&#8217;t read. Too stupid.  That is why the trolls have such a hard time defending him here.  Oh, and all the lying makes it hard too.  And the assault on the Constitution, and the war crimes&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181033', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Republic of Stupidity</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/06/webb-no-permanent-presence-without-congresss-consent/comment-page-3/#comment-4181010</link>
		<dc:creator>The Republic of Stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 05:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a dime Iâ€™d gladly find the guy who said the end of the Cold War was the End of History and give him a stern talking to.

Comment by Keltoi at Night â€” December 7, 2007 @ 12:50 am

Sh*t, I&#039;d gladly call you a sneering, condescending j*rk off in short pants  for free.  You can keep yer dime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a dime Iâ€™d gladly find the guy who said the end of the Cold War was the End of History and give him a stern talking to.</p>
<p>Comment by Keltoi at Night â€” December 7, 2007 @ 12:50 am</p>
<p>Sh*t, I&#8217;d gladly call you a sneering, condescending j*rk off in short pants  for free.  You can keep yer dime.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181010', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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