Perino: Congress Knew More About CIA Activities Than Bush, President Not ‘Aware’ Of Torture Tapes
Perino: Congress Knew More About CIA Activities Than Bush, President Not ‘Aware’ Of Torture Tapes
During the White House press briefing today, reporters bore into White House Press Secretary Dana Perino over when President Bush was first informed about the CIA’s destruction of videotapes in 2005 that featured agency officials using harsh interrogation tactics. Perino said that Bush had “no recollection of being made aware of the tapes or their destruction before yesterday”:
QUESTION: Thanks. On these CIA videotapes, did either the President or Vice President or Condoleezza Rice, when she was National Security Advisor, or Steve Hadley, see them before they were destroyed?
PERINO: I spoke to the President, and so I will have to defer on the others. But I spoke to the President this morning about this. He has no recollection of being made aware of the tapes or their destruction before yesterday. He was briefed by General Hayden yesterday morning.
Watch it:
If what Perino says is true, it means that members of Congress were more informed of the CIA’s activities than the president himself. In his letter to agency employees yesterday, CIA Director Michael V. Hayden stated that “leaders of Congressional oversight committees were fully briefed on the matter.”
Rep. Jane Harman (D-CA) told the AP that she was made aware of the tapes’ existence in 2003:
California Rep. Jane Harman, then the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, was one of four lawmakers informed in 2003 of the tapes’ existence and the CIA’s intention to ultimately destroy them.
“I told the CIA that destroying videotapes of interrogations was a bad idea and urged them in writing not to do it,” Harman said.
Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) says he was also made aware of the tapes’ destruction in 2006:
While we were provided with very limited information about the existence of the tapes, we were not consulted on their usage nor the decision to destroy the tapes. And, we did not learn until much later, November 2006 — 2 months after the full committee was briefed on the program — that the tapes had in fact been destroyed in 2005.
According to Perino, Bush says he wasn’t “made aware of the tapes or their destruction before yesterday,” but members of Congress learned of the tapes in early 2003 and then their destruction in late 2006.
As President, Bush is in charge of the executive branch, which the CIA is a part of. But somehow, the administration that has vastly expanded executive authority, expects the public to believe that Congress knows more about the CIA’s interrogation activities than the President does.
UPDATE: Rockefeller just put out another statement saying that he wasn’t actually told of the tape’s destruction in 2006, but confirming that he was told of their existence in 2003.
UPDATE II: In “an angry letter” to CIA Director Michael V. Hayden, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Silvestre Reyes (D-TX) and the committee’s ranking member and former chairman, Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) say that “simply is not true” that the CIA informed the committee of the tapes’ destruction in 2005, as Hayden’s statement said on Thursday.
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Jebus. According to the lying sack of cute, Bush isn't aware of ANYTHING.
Well, excuse me, then WTF is he doing all day????
December 7th, 2007 at 3:22 pmWell, excuse me, then WTF is he doing all day????
Comment by Leftside Annie — December 7, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
Enjoying a few good torture tapes, of course.
December 7th, 2007 at 3:24 pmRepublican rope-a-dope.
December 7th, 2007 at 3:24 pmOh, give me a home, where the Bush crime family doesn't roam, where the deer and the antelope and the rest of us can play (without being spied upon...)
December 7th, 2007 at 3:26 pmThe Ecider lost control of his inetl boys?
December 7th, 2007 at 3:27 pmEh, maybe it's true. Maybe no one bothers to tell him anything because they'll just have to tell him again the next day.
December 7th, 2007 at 3:27 pmThis, "Wasn't informed" excuse is starting to be laughable and totally unbelievable. "Didn't know" my butt.
Bush/Cheney
Hague Trials '09
Buck Fush
December 7th, 2007 at 3:27 pmThe President only knows what he's told by his caretakers.
Remember when Bush had no idea of the severity of post-Katrina damage until his aides made a DVD and made him watch it?
What this president doesn't know can, and is, getting people killed and destroying our country.
December 7th, 2007 at 3:29 pmHere we go again.
And she didn't choose to speak for Cheney or Rice.
Would Perino speak for the VP? Would she believe him if he asked her to (remember Scott McClellan's trap with the VP over Plame)?
December 7th, 2007 at 3:30 pmI'm so sick of this lying little B1tch.
Bush a a stupid retardate whoo couldnt run a f@cking Denny's.
Torture , Illegal Wars, and National Bankruptcy, and CIA torture cover-ups.
Heck of a job , I'm glad he brought respect to the Oval Office.
December 7th, 2007 at 3:33 pmThey aren't even trying, to tell convincing lies, anymore.
December 7th, 2007 at 3:33 pmThe "I" word will become more prominent. This is a legal strategery to avoid a war crimes charge against Bush, Rummy, Cheney, etc. Ignorance has always served Bush well.
December 7th, 2007 at 3:34 pmThat mean ol' Congress! Who knew that THEY were the ones behind these nefarious schemes all along!
Fascist Barbie strikes again!
December 7th, 2007 at 3:35 pmBeck, Klein, Perino, Beck, Klein, Perino
ahhh the predictable rhythm of TP
December 7th, 2007 at 3:37 pmThat mean ol’ Congress! Who knew that THEY were the ones behind these nefarious schemes all along!
Comment by Red Pill — December 7, 2007 @ 3:35 pm
They would've gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for those meddling kids!
December 7th, 2007 at 3:37 pmAlso - who wants to bet that the next announcement is that Bush was aware of the existence of the tapes, but didn't know what was on the tapes?
December 7th, 2007 at 3:40 pmOh, please... Stepford Dana is a waste of hot air on the podium. It is time for Congress to seriously invoke the 25th amendment on incompentence of the President. If he can't recall anything that is going on his administration, then why in the hell is Geroge getting a paycheck?
December 7th, 2007 at 3:41 pmHow can Dana do this day after day after day with a straight face? If I had a job where I essentially had to constantly say, "my boss knows nothing," I would eventually lose it.
Or at the very least, I would LOOK apologetic.
December 7th, 2007 at 3:41 pmAlso - who wants to bet that the next announcement is that Bush was aware of the existence of the tapes, but didn’t know what was on the tapes?
Comment by toasterhead — December 7, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
Because "no one told" him?
December 7th, 2007 at 3:42 pmAnd there are no consequences for defying Harman's request that they not be destroyed? Oh right--in the President's legality, the Executive is never beholden to the Legislative. And, as we have seen, that makes it all OK.
December 7th, 2007 at 3:42 pmIf he can’t recall anything that is going on his administration, then why in the hell is Geroge getting a paycheck?
Comment by SP Biloxi — December 7, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
Unfortunately, Raygun established precedent.
December 7th, 2007 at 3:43 pmBush a a stupid retardate whoo couldnt run a f@cking Denny’s.
Comment by overlap — December 7, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
Or a baseball team, or any kind of business...
Seriously, did Bush ever do anything where he left things in better shape than when he came in?
December 7th, 2007 at 3:44 pmMan, it must be Friday...it's scandal dump day, deluxe. Wow.
A new story every time I refresh...
December 7th, 2007 at 3:44 pm18 - MissMolly - she's starting to develop tics. ;o)
December 7th, 2007 at 3:44 pmDana got her start as the press flack for the White House Council on Environmental Quality.
Her present job is equally irrelevant - and a natural progression.
She's a "natural."
December 7th, 2007 at 3:45 pmI wonder, if in reviewing the tapes of all Ms. Perino's pressers, it would be possible to spot the exact moment when she realizes she's sold her soul.
Not much of a trade for a pair of "big girl panties" (Karen Hughes' phrase, not mine).
December 7th, 2007 at 3:47 pm14 - agreed. a lot more progress could be made were we given threads that lead to contact with congressmen and senators and result in the application of some "direct pressure" on them.
December 7th, 2007 at 3:48 pmReporter: "Dana, what does the President do all day?"
Perino: "Well, ummm,............ oh, yesterday he ALMOST made it halfway through the Arrival campaign on HALO 3."
Reporter: "Which difficulty level?"
Perino: "I'm not ready to disclose that information."
December 7th, 2007 at 3:49 pmThe president uses the selective memory loss excuse again. This is getting old. Our commander in thief only seems to remember things when it suits his political agenda. Bush sticks to the GOP playbook,,"Admit nothing,,deny the obvious".
December 7th, 2007 at 3:50 pm"Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus....."
Cheers,
December 7th, 2007 at 3:52 pmRe: As President, Bush is in charge of the executive branch, which the CIA is a part of.
Are you so sure? Somewhere there is a secret memo or Executive Order excluding the CIA from the E.B. I'm sure of it.
December 7th, 2007 at 3:52 pmSeriously, did Bush ever do anything where he left things in better shape than when he came in?
Comment by missmolly — December 7, 2007 @ 3:44 pm
A very good question I've often pondered, and worthy of a "Recommend."
Any Bush supporters out there want to take a stab?
December 7th, 2007 at 3:55 pmPerino is just doing her job.
December 7th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
Bush had “no recollection of being made aware of the tapes or their destruction before yesterdayâ€
"No recollection" = plausible deniability
December 7th, 2007 at 3:57 pmOR it means that Bush's brain is so impaired he cannot recall anything!
And if he really had/has Lyme disease that could be one reason.
December 7th, 2007 at 3:59 pmAh, the infamous Sergeant Schultz defense...
I know nossink, NOSSINK!
December 7th, 2007 at 4:00 pmHAGE 2009!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
December 7th, 2007 at 4:00 pmHAGE 2009!!!!!
December 7th, 2007 at 4:02 pmNo recollection??????!!!!!! No recollection?????????!!!!!! Sounds just like Gonzo!
December 7th, 2007 at 4:03 pmSeriously, did Bush ever do anything where he left things in better shape than when he came in?
Comment by missmolly
Presidential crapitude is in better shape now than under Clinton. Congress was woefully less compliant under Clinton, too. So Bush improved that. The economy was going too well, gas prices too low, so he fixed those, too.
December 7th, 2007 at 4:05 pmI could go on and on!
#1 Leftside Annie:
Well, excuse me, then WTF is he doing all day????
Reading those 100 books a year to keep ahead of Rove in that reading competition.
OBTW, you interested in a nice suspension bridge, used but newly repainted?
Cheers,
December 7th, 2007 at 4:09 pmAs with so many incidents involving the Bush White House, there are two possibilities here:
1. Bush (through his spokeswoman, Perino) is lying.
2. Bush had no knowledge of things that happened under his administration that are of great importance to U.S. national security and America's standing in the world.
In either case, Bush is clearly unfit to be President, as he's either a serial liar or totally incompetent (or both).
And somehow, right-wing pundits and trolls will find some way to blame this on Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Democrats in Congress, or the "liberal media."
December 7th, 2007 at 4:09 pmApparently, all the Righties ran out of ammo and had to run off to get updates from borg central command. Should be interesting to see what they come back with. They've had their asses handed to them by all the posters here for the last 3 days, and battle fatigue has them sounding off with some pretty weird stuff. If the pressure is maintained, they'll start tipping their hands as to who they really hate, and where their real loyalties lie.
December 7th, 2007 at 4:11 pmHe "doesn't remember" if he heard about or saw videotapes of US detainees being tortured (oh sorry "harshly interrogated"). You'd think that kind of thing would stick out in your memory, unless that's the kind of thing you watch all the time. Just sayin'...
December 7th, 2007 at 4:11 pm#13 Red Pill:
That mean ol’ Congress! Who knew that THEY were the ones behind these nefarious schemes all along!
Not to mention it was them that rushed Dubya into invading Ey-ran ... umm, no, sorry, Ey-rack. Wasn't his fault; the Democrats made him do it....
ITMFN.
Cheers,
December 7th, 2007 at 4:12 pmEvilpoet; look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls.
circa 1968. (:-D)
December 7th, 2007 at 4:12 pmHe has no recollection of being made aware of the tapes or their destruction before yesterday.
In other words; until you find out for yourself what I knew and when I knew it, I have no recollection.
December 7th, 2007 at 4:12 pmBush administration: The most corrupt, lying, deceitful, mean-spirited and anti-freedom administration ever.
Why does the Bush administration hate America?
December 7th, 2007 at 4:12 pm#43 TomB
A: Everyone, especially their mothers
B: Bushco GooseStepping Academy.
December 7th, 2007 at 4:12 pmThey haven't confessed, so, they must be innocent.
December 7th, 2007 at 4:15 pm/sarc off
The CDC should do some tests on the water in the White House.
Nobody over there can recollect a damn thing.
I'm anticipating the Bush approval ratings after this week...
December 7th, 2007 at 4:15 pmGeorge Bush = Sergeant Schultz
"I know nothing"
December 7th, 2007 at 4:18 pmJoke Line's next blog post at Swampland:
"In a remarkable moment of candor for this adminstration, President Bush admitted that he couldn't remember whether anyone told of these tapes."
In fairness to the president, it's likely that when they told him these were video tapes, Bush said he was only into DVDs now and wasn't interested in stuff on VHS.
December 7th, 2007 at 4:18 pmDid any of the people in the room question her on this considering the crap that came out of her mouth yesterday?
December 7th, 2007 at 4:19 pmHonestly, I don't see this as something Bush would get involved with. Any SERIOUS President would, but I doubt he would. I believe this whole thing has the fingerprints of Vice President Cheney all over it.
We've seen reports time and time again where the Vice President holds classified documents in his office in vaulted file cabinets. I don't think for an instant that this is something that he wouldn't have been aware of. For all we know, he may have been one of the interrogators. We'll never know because the tapes were destroyed. The Vice President has to do something with all the time he has in these "undisclosed location" trips of his.
As for select members of Congress knowing more about this than the Executive Branch, it's an easy solution. Tell those people responsible that they have to step up and take one for the team and tell everyone what they knew about them. If one is found to have known all along that the CIA had destroyed the tapes when Representative Jane Harman specifically wrote to them advising them against it, there's room for litigation:
United States Constitution Article I, Section 5 [2], "Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a member."
December 7th, 2007 at 4:21 pmAnd somehow, right-wing pundits and trolls will find some way to blame this on Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Democrats in Congress, or the “liberal media.â€
Comment by Jim — December 7, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
Eh -- Repubs always find a way to blame everything on the Dems. It was especially obvious in 2004 during their convention, when -- despite having control of the White House, Congress, and the Supreme Court, an amazing amount of their rhetoric amounted to outrage against the Democrats and an attitude of "we're mad as h*ll and we're not gonna take it anymore!"
Ah -- if only we HAD the power they claimed we had.
December 7th, 2007 at 4:28 pmHAGE 2009!!!!!
Comment by sacopenapa — December 7, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
Alexander Hage? Nooooooooooo!
December 7th, 2007 at 4:29 pmReporter: “Dana, what does the President do all day?â€
Perino: “Well, ummm,………… oh, yesterday he ALMOST made it halfway through the Arrival campaign on HALO 3.â€
Reporter: “Which difficulty level?â€
Perino: “I’m not ready to disclose that information.â€
Comment by RickS — December 7, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
The Chief Idiot play a game like Halo 3?!
I think Dumbya has a hard enough time grasping the nuances of Pong.
December 7th, 2007 at 4:30 pmComment by Jim — December 7, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
Ummmm...I'll pick "C" - all of the above.
December 7th, 2007 at 4:30 pmLies, Lying and Liars that Lied.
December 7th, 2007 at 4:30 pmPretty soon the presidential candidates talking points, to show their competence for running the country will be;
I dont know, elect me!
I misremembered, vote for me!
I forgot, dont forget to vote for me!
December 7th, 2007 at 4:31 pmdreamcrusher?
exley?
jason?
December 7th, 2007 at 4:31 pm62 - fercrissakes, don't encourage'em - they've got way too much enthusiasm as it is - kinda like that little chickenhawk feller that used to keep dragging foghorn leghorn off to be supper.
December 7th, 2007 at 4:33 pmIf these tapes merely show waterboarding and sleep depravation, which we all know that they don't believe to be torture--why did they feel they needed to destroy the evidence to protect the interrogators? The act of destruction seems tantamount to admitting that what was on the tapes was over the line, in fact criminal under US as well as international law.
December 7th, 2007 at 4:34 pmIf these tapes merely show waterboarding and sleep depravation, which we all know that they don’t believe to be torture–why did they feel they needed to destroy the evidence to protect the interrogators? The act of destruction seems tantamount to admitting that what was on the tapes was over the line, in fact criminal under US as well as international law.
Comment by Menehune
Ding...ding...ding...Give this person a prize for having come up with the correct answer!
December 7th, 2007 at 4:36 pm#22 missmolly, The answer to your question- No.
December 7th, 2007 at 4:37 pmthis little girl is so far in over her head and the big men with little dicks just send her out there.
sadly she should be representing someone like tara reid........or is she tara reid
December 7th, 2007 at 4:38 pmThere was a virus on the tape and they had to call in computer geeks to erase it, yeh, dats what happened, thats the ticket.
December 7th, 2007 at 4:39 pmoh boy, we get to play who's the biggest idiot running our government...what fun.
December 7th, 2007 at 4:40 pm.
Drunk again, and can't remember a thing.
December 7th, 2007 at 4:43 pmA nice follow up question:
Did the Vice-President know about these tapes and their destruction prior to the President?
Idiot MSM.......
December 7th, 2007 at 4:54 pmWhat was that oath he took when kinda-elected?
December 7th, 2007 at 5:00 pmBush: "What oath?"
Ding…ding…ding…Give this person a prize for having come up with the correct answer!
Comment by bilbobaggins — December 7, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
Bush certainly has a penchant for purging or blocking access to information or situations that are perfectly legal and in which he has nothing to hide, doesn't he??
December 7th, 2007 at 5:01 pmit should be noted that harman was a full supporter of the president's wiretapping and interrogation programs as recently as......what? 2005?
perino is (obviously) lying through her teeth, which she does routinely.
why do press secreataries have so much contempt for the press?
December 7th, 2007 at 5:07 pmAnother day, another lie. Another "I didn't know".
The president has destroyed in meaning of the oath of office.
Senators and congressman say they are outraged about every new revelation, but they do nothing more than 15 sec. nightly news statements that amount to zip.
With every new revelation of wrong doing or lack of responsibility, our nation becomes less and less secure. We have no moral authority on the world stage. We look weak. This apparent weakness will translate into boldness of those who would like to strike the U.S.
Congress is failing to do its job. It must stand up for the Constitution or it is just as guilty as Bush for breach of duty.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:14 pmPitiful Perino is falling apart. She's in a meltdown and it won't be pretty.
How much lying can a person do, after all, before it tears you apart?
December 7th, 2007 at 5:16 pmThe junta's contempt for the US and the US people is more evident every day.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:20 pmIf Congress does not take action against Bush and Cheney right now for lying to the people and congress regarding intelligence which they had since Fall, 2006, then this country is in a dire national security condition. I will hold congress responsible for NOT performing their duties under their oath of office. It is not their "luxury" to decide whether to begin impeachment proceedings when impeachable offenses are known to occur (and if NIE-gate isn't an impeachable offense, I don't know what is!) - it is their "responsibility to the people" of this country to immediately begin impeachment proceedings and not a choice.
Let's get off your royal asses Congress and start performing your duty! Begin impeachment proceedings right now!
The safety, reputation, and security of this democracy depend on what Congress decides to do with these new Iran lies. It's safe to say that Bush and Cheney no longer hold any degree of respect nationally and are villified internationally. Now NIEgate will tank their rep worldwide even further.
This country cannot sustain another 12 months of these liars. It will be bad enough that so much more criminal behavior will be unearthed every day of the week for the next 12 months - that's horrible enough - but god knows what these demons are capable of at this point. They absolutely cannot be trusted with the safety and security of this country.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:20 pmDANA!!...what did mommy tell you about telling fibs!
December 7th, 2007 at 5:22 pmIt matters little if they "don't have the votes". By the time impeachment conversations begin and the variety of whistleblowers come to the fore with their heinous stories, the number of impeachment votes will grow. Certainly we would be able to count on those whose term of office expires soon to vote in favor of impeachment.
The people would be out in the streets supporting Congress and impeachment at this point. Why do you think Congress' numbers are almost as low as Bush's?? It's because they haven't listened closely to the mandate of the people during the midterms whose priorities were (1) ending the war in Iraq (and they continue to fund it) and (2) ridding Washington of corruption (and this means the White House).
The people will not rest until the two largest criminals are removed from office along with their little party gal, Rice. The rest of the criminals have hightailed it out of town and the publice eye already.
Impeachment will bring the power back to the people regardless of whether congress now has the votes to do it. It will send a clear signal to the rest of the world that the criminal antics of this renegade administration do NOT reflect the morals of the people of this country.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:24 pmveritas-
December 7th, 2007 at 5:25 pmPrecisely. Impeachment is not a choice in the face of offenses that go to the very core of our nation's security.
In 7 short years, we've gone from being respected globally to being international pariahs - not to mention being "sold out" to the highest bidder. What's left of this country and this democracy will now depend on The People and how willing we are to have our voices heard, how willing we are to stick out our necks for truth, how willing we are to press congress to at least begin impeachment proceedings against our very own homegrown criminals within.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:26 pmUncle Ho: You bet your sweet bippy I will!
December 7th, 2007 at 5:27 pmLeftcoast: I fear that if Congress fails to uphold their oath of office and support the constitution, then they will all be held in complicity at this point. Impeachable offenses have been tabulated with evidence since the Downing Street Memo and Congress has been dragging their feet.
With this latest NIEgate, they really have no alternative but to uphold their oath of office and, since this is an impeachable offense, they must begin impeachment proceedings.
It's no longer a "choice" for Congress but a "mandate". If they fail the people on this right now, the people will take action without them, state by state, as has been done on other issues. I believe there are several states which are bringing impeachment charges against this white house already. More are joining.
The states will admonish Congress if they fail to do their job this time.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:29 pmWhat is wrong with Bush? Why is lying the only thing this man can do?
December 7th, 2007 at 5:30 pmHe clearly lied the other day when he tried to tell us that Iran was getting ready to use nuclear weapons, and he knew that we knew he was lying. Now he is lying about the tapes. He obviously feels very safe that he is not going to be prosecuted for deception and for misleading the American people. It is past due to put impeachment right in the middle of the table, not off the table. Get with it Nancy and can this sucker's arse!
the ONLY thing the Junta cares about is filling their coffers and offshore accounts for the time when they go into exile.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:30 pmWhether the votes are there to sustain impeachment matters not. The moral authority of our country is at stake. The world looks at America as an example of how democracy can work. If we continue on this path of overlooking obvious breaches of faith with the American people and the rule of law we will suffer grave consequences.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:31 pmBush is a pathological liar AND a sociopath at this point. The fact is that he always has been as written in his biography by Justin A. Frank, Bush On The Couch. Dr. Frank interviewed his teachers, profs, college buddies, etc. and it was evident back then that he had sociopathic tendencies, was already a pathological liar, and also delved into sado masochism.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:32 pmleftcoast: Absolutely! Even if impeachment is only a procedure and lacks votes, it will send a clear moral message that the people of this country are not criminals like Bush and Cheney and help to restore our respect internationally. It's something we absolutely MUST DO at this point.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:33 pmThen you have Mitt out there acting religious and spouting off religious rhetoric - along with Hucklberry Finn acting pious and the rest of the world is scratching their heads saying: Huh? These guys are american which means that they're amoral sycophants without a moral compass of their own. Mitt and Huck look like they're trying out for lead in the Christmas play, for goodness sakes. They look like frauds.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:34 pmVeritas: I wrote that very argument to Pelosi and Davis. Davis responded without addressing my point.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:36 pmleftcoast: You're kidding! I say impeach them all if they fail the people on NIE gate. Then it will be time to totally purge congress in 08 and 12.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:37 pmKudos to you, leftcoast for writing to Madam Speaker and Davis. They're days will be numbered if they fail to begin impeachment proceedings right now, too. I think they have such dirt on Pelosi with her winery and illegals that she's been rendered useless at this point.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:39 pmThey've blackmailed all of them with their warrantless wiretapping. And now they're holding them hostage to provide defacto immunity to the telecoms who did it to them. What a sick joke!
Their days.....see....I'm getting hungry...Time to mange...later TP buddies!
December 7th, 2007 at 5:39 pmVeritas: Agreed! I'm so completely fed up with the weakness of our congress.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:39 pmIf congress doesn't filibuster the FISA bill coming down the pike, the people of this country will be out in the streets rioting.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:40 pmVeritas- I just don't think Americans know how to demonstrate anymore. But, a good ol' march would be nice again.
December 7th, 2007 at 5:42 pm#98: Yes. You're right. And if your president and administration has to ask you to lie all the time, best to keep a good looking face on it.
December 7th, 2007 at 6:02 pmAnd what does Bush know? Absolutely nothing. Dumb as dirt. Always was and always will be.
December 7th, 2007 at 6:06 pmDana is beginning to look like shit. This is what having to lie everyday does to a person. It makes them look older than their years. Dana, get ready to write that tell all book. Only 409 more days for information gathering.
December 7th, 2007 at 6:08 pmsectionop92,
Okay, it was really Head to Head football, and he lost.
Against himself.
December 7th, 2007 at 6:09 pm.
WHAT'S A LITTLE COLLUSION?
.
December 7th, 2007 at 6:14 pm“This is what having to lie everyday does to a person. It makes them look older than their years. â€
Yes, lying takes its toll on you. Just ask the 1000 year old liberal.
http://boortz.com/ more/ funny/ 1000_year_old_liberal.html
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 7, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
Funny how you posted a link to your self portrait, and tried to pass it off as a liberal - hysterical!!!
December 7th, 2007 at 6:26 pmBest looking press secretary of all time.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 7, 2007 @ 5:59 pm
That's what you say in public, but we all know you tapped your toes for Snow! ;)
December 7th, 2007 at 6:27 pmWhen the President says that he "does not recall" being told - this is a lie and code for "now when you come back with evidence that I was told, I can say it slipped my mind." String the b*st*rd up.
December 7th, 2007 at 6:33 pmBush not only doesn't know what the meaning of is, is...he also does'nt know what the meaning of the truth is.
December 7th, 2007 at 6:34 pmHow can they pay a person enough to stand in front of a camera and spew lies, day after day ?
December 7th, 2007 at 8:04 pmThey must have convinced her that she goes to heaven and gets 37 virgins when she dies.
I don't particularly like the fact that Dana Perino is the official mouthpiece of BushCo.
That having been said, I would love to nail this babe-o-licious to no end!!!
December 7th, 2007 at 9:44 pmThe goddess spokesmodel speaks and I am supposed to what? Genuflect? What school is training these professional liars. And Mr. GL2814 (you deserve to be known as a #), she really thinks she's better than you. Go take cold shower and get a brain.
December 8th, 2007 at 12:32 amIf she continues to lie like this, we will be viewing her pretty face crumble and disintegrate before our eyes.
December 8th, 2007 at 12:55 amShe will be worn and haggard - the lying is poisonous.
#104 has linked to a photo of Bill O'Reilly. Pretty good likeness.
December 8th, 2007 at 12:59 amWaterboarding is not the reason the CIA destroyed those tapes! Yes they showed waterboarding. And it is a practice that should be stopped! But there is something bigger on those tapes, and that is what motivated their destruction!
One of the suspects was tricked into thinking he was taken to Saudi Arabia, thinking that would terrify him into talking. And in fact, he became quite relaxed. The first time he met the interrigators, he gave them the personal private cell phone number of a member of the Saudi Royal Family and told them to call him, and he would set them straight!
Read about the whole thing here in the second half of the article...
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2007/12/07/the-core-part-1-the-economy-of-lies/
Source is Gerald Posner and the name of the al Qaeda suspect is Abu Zabaydah.
this is the story about the three Saudi Princes who ended up dead after someone implicated them in terrorist financing. And these are the tapes...
December 8th, 2007 at 8:48 amHere we go again as theis White House pisses down the backs of the American people and tell us it's raining. How much more of this are we going to put up with?
December 8th, 2007 at 3:03 pmPERINO: I spoke to the President, and so I will have to defer on the others. But I spoke to the President this morning about this. He has no recollection of being made aware of the tapes or their destruction before yesterday. He was briefed by General Hayden yesterday morning.
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I've said this before and I'll say it again here...the sheer degree of memory loss and memory lapses which members of this administration seem to suffer on a regular (not to mention remarkably convenient) basis forces me to ponder whether they're actually sufficiently compos mentis to actually do their jobs. If I suffered that level of memory loss and/or absentmindedness where I work, well...needless to say, I wouldn't stay employed very long.
December 9th, 2007 at 5:39 amWilly,
You frighten me. . . .something Bush, despite his best efforts has been unable to do.
December 9th, 2007 at 6:37 amBush would like to claim that he's the CEO president, running the government as one would a large corporation, delegating, delegating, delegating, and not concerning himself with the minutia.
Problem with that scenario is that every CEO wants to be fully apprised of organizational behavour . . . anything out of the ordinary and I want to know. If my contractors have killed civilians, I want to know. If $1 billion of arms are missing and unaccounted for, I want to know. Hell, I want to know if my supplier is accused of raping a local. I'm not just interested if the exchange rate is down a point, I want to know if the cost of concrete from China has skyrocketed.
How many tractors are being shipped to Afghanistan may not catch my eye, but the fact that a bunch of Saudi's are taking lessons to fly planes, but not to take off or to land would . . . particularly in light of that other memo I meant to read regarding the likelihood that a bunch of Arabs want to fly planes into the World Trade Centers.
As a CEO, my first thought, after hearing that that eventuality had become reality and finishing the story about a goat, would not be to schedule flight plans for the bin Lauden familly to flee the country during a flight blackout, but would probably be "How many of my employees were effected and how can I help them."
Nonsense in the brain (?) of CEO Bush.
First, make sure my ass is safe.
Second, get the bin Lauden's out of the country.
Third, time to pump up Guiliani.
Fourth, where the hell is my Tanguray? At a time like this, the Decider must have his gin. Cheney says this is a goldmine . . . must be ready.
December 9th, 2007 at 7:01 amDana Perino is such a dolt. She doesn't even know what the Cuban Missile Crisis was about -
AUDIO - Dana Perino Cuban Missile Crisis
December 10th, 2007 at 4:42 pmhttp://test.redlasso.com/service/svc/clip/playClip?fid=5fceaa0d-d145-4d6c-a3f1-950beac5f6a0