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		<title>By: questioneverything</title>
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		<dc:creator>questioneverything</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 05:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dick, don&#039;t count on it. Every appointee of Bush is a lying crony. Law? What law? Never heard of it--or I don&#039;t recall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick, don&#8217;t count on it. Every appointee of Bush is a lying crony. Law? What law? Never heard of it&#8211;or I don&#8217;t recall.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4182465', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tombaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>tombaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 23:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>62 - and you would be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>62 &#8211; and you would be.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4182181', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Leftside Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leftside Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 23:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could get excited about this, I really do. 

But I&#039;m dead sure that Mukasey&#039;s nothing more than an asskissing Bushtoady, and there will be no investigation.

*sigh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could get excited about this, I really do. </p>
<p>But I&#8217;m dead sure that Mukasey&#8217;s nothing more than an asskissing Bushtoady, and there will be no investigation.</p>
<p>*sigh*<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4182161', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: alexlerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexlerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still thinking about the &lt;strong&gt;Porter Goss&lt;/strong&gt; connection.  The torture occurred during Tenet&#039;s tenure -- and it should be noted that this was in the immediate wake of 9/11.  I&#039;m not justifying the torture, but placing it in context.  

The decision to destroy the tapes was made in 2005, presumably by the new DCIA Porter Goss -- a right wing Cheney-affiliated operator who at the time seemed to have a big future.

 Goss -- as was covered extensively in Talking Points Memo at the time -- came into the CIA and installed 4 political hacks in all the senior spots of the CIA in what was touted as an effort to &quot;de-politicize&quot; the CIA (i.e. put an end to the resistance to Dick Cheney/Doug Feith&#039;s intelligence-fixing operations, etc, which was seen as treason by the Cheney-ites).

One of Goss&#039;s associates had to quit immediately, because it turned out he had been canned from the CIA previously for a shoplifting conviction.  Leaking of this shady background was seen as another act of treason by insiders at the CIA.

Another of Goss&#039;s Cronies &lt;strong&gt;was D&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;usty &quot;nine fingers&quot; Foggo&lt;/strong&gt;, who with Brent Wilkes ran a &quot;hospitality suite&quot; for US congressman complete with hookers bussed in under a DHS contracted limousine company.

As reported in TPM at the time, Foggo was an impulsive moron with a long history of screwing up when he was a low-level operative at the CIA, and a rumored history of being the go-to guy for hookers in Honduras the 1980&#039;s, for Republicans visiting the contras.

Many members of congress, including powerful Democrats (remember the Democrats?) visited the &quot;hospitality suites&quot;, but they did so only for &quot;poker games&quot;.  The only Congressman who was ever id&#039;d as laying with the hookers was &lt;strong&gt;Duke Cunningham&lt;/strong&gt;.

All those hookers, a whole limousine operation, just to service one fat, dumb Republican?  Damn.  Must have had balls of tungsten!

All kidding aside, the story was an utter disgrace.  At the very least, it represented a gross breach of security at the CIA.  Espionage 101 involves getting your target to lay with hookers etc. so you can blackmail them.

There is also a real question in my mind as to whether the &quot;poker game&quot; was a blackmail/bribery operation being run BY Goss and Foggo.  Certainly the involvement of prominent Dems (on from Texas as I recall) was one of the reasons this story never saw the light of day, other than hideous radical America-hating blogs run by Josh Marshall.

Cunningham and Wilkes, of course, were being investigated and prosecuted by US Attorney &lt;strong&gt;Carol Lam&lt;/strong&gt;, until Alberto Gonzalez fired her as part of the &quot;US Attorney Purge&quot;.  It is possible that Lam was the primary target of the entire purge, given the explosive nature of the charges, and links to many other GOP congressman.  Lam&#039;s successor accepted Cunningham&#039;s weepy guilty plea, and shut down the rest of the investigation, fast. 

As publicity about the &quot;hospitality suites&quot; grew, Goss quickly and quietly stepped down to spend more time with his family.  His name is almost never mentioned by the MSM.  Even in the times today, the fact that he was DCIA at the time is (as far as I could read) not mentioned -- they only publish his denial that he knew anything.

Clearly, Goss&#039;s &quot;clean-up&quot; at the CIA was on of complete lawlessness, and an effort to subordinate the agency to Cheney&#039;s agenda using cash, poon-tang, and muscle -- remember that the &lt;strong&gt;Valerie Plame&lt;/strong&gt; burn was ongoing at the same time:  an effort to slam and burn spooks who actually thought they were in the intelligence business, rather than the unitary executive propaganda business.

Is it a coincidence that this story follows the Iran NIE story by two days?

Is there somebody out there planting this stuff who doesn&#039;t give a shit that Dems were involved?

Will anybody actually start talking about Porter Goss?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still thinking about the <strong>Porter Goss</strong> connection.  The torture occurred during Tenet&#8217;s tenure &#8212; and it should be noted that this was in the immediate wake of 9/11.  I&#8217;m not justifying the torture, but placing it in context.  </p>
<p>The decision to destroy the tapes was made in 2005, presumably by the new DCIA Porter Goss &#8212; a right wing Cheney-affiliated operator who at the time seemed to have a big future.</p>
<p> Goss &#8212; as was covered extensively in Talking Points Memo at the time &#8212; came into the CIA and installed 4 political hacks in all the senior spots of the CIA in what was touted as an effort to &#8220;de-politicize&#8221; the CIA (i.e. put an end to the resistance to Dick Cheney/Doug Feith&#8217;s intelligence-fixing operations, etc, which was seen as treason by the Cheney-ites).</p>
<p>One of Goss&#8217;s associates had to quit immediately, because it turned out he had been canned from the CIA previously for a shoplifting conviction.  Leaking of this shady background was seen as another act of treason by insiders at the CIA.</p>
<p>Another of Goss&#8217;s Cronies <strong>was D</strong><strong>usty &#8220;nine fingers&#8221; Foggo</strong>, who with Brent Wilkes ran a &#8220;hospitality suite&#8221; for US congressman complete with hookers bussed in under a DHS contracted limousine company.</p>
<p>As reported in TPM at the time, Foggo was an impulsive moron with a long history of screwing up when he was a low-level operative at the CIA, and a rumored history of being the go-to guy for hookers in Honduras the 1980&#8217;s, for Republicans visiting the contras.</p>
<p>Many members of congress, including powerful Democrats (remember the Democrats?) visited the &#8220;hospitality suites&#8221;, but they did so only for &#8220;poker games&#8221;.  The only Congressman who was ever id&#8217;d as laying with the hookers was <strong>Duke Cunningham</strong>.</p>
<p>All those hookers, a whole limousine operation, just to service one fat, dumb Republican?  Damn.  Must have had balls of tungsten!</p>
<p>All kidding aside, the story was an utter disgrace.  At the very least, it represented a gross breach of security at the CIA.  Espionage 101 involves getting your target to lay with hookers etc. so you can blackmail them.</p>
<p>There is also a real question in my mind as to whether the &#8220;poker game&#8221; was a blackmail/bribery operation being run BY Goss and Foggo.  Certainly the involvement of prominent Dems (on from Texas as I recall) was one of the reasons this story never saw the light of day, other than hideous radical America-hating blogs run by Josh Marshall.</p>
<p>Cunningham and Wilkes, of course, were being investigated and prosecuted by US Attorney <strong>Carol Lam</strong>, until Alberto Gonzalez fired her as part of the &#8220;US Attorney Purge&#8221;.  It is possible that Lam was the primary target of the entire purge, given the explosive nature of the charges, and links to many other GOP congressman.  Lam&#8217;s successor accepted Cunningham&#8217;s weepy guilty plea, and shut down the rest of the investigation, fast. </p>
<p>As publicity about the &#8220;hospitality suites&#8221; grew, Goss quickly and quietly stepped down to spend more time with his family.  His name is almost never mentioned by the MSM.  Even in the times today, the fact that he was DCIA at the time is (as far as I could read) not mentioned &#8212; they only publish his denial that he knew anything.</p>
<p>Clearly, Goss&#8217;s &#8220;clean-up&#8221; at the CIA was on of complete lawlessness, and an effort to subordinate the agency to Cheney&#8217;s agenda using cash, poon-tang, and muscle &#8212; remember that the <strong>Valerie Plame</strong> burn was ongoing at the same time:  an effort to slam and burn spooks who actually thought they were in the intelligence business, rather than the unitary executive propaganda business.</p>
<p>Is it a coincidence that this story follows the Iran NIE story by two days?</p>
<p>Is there somebody out there planting this stuff who doesn&#8217;t give a shit that Dems were involved?</p>
<p>Will anybody actually start talking about Porter Goss?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4182003', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Tracy2 â€” December 7, 2007 @ 4:19 pm

Just checking to see that I have this right. Foreign intelligence good (if it supports US preconceived desires). Foreign judicial systems, taxation, healthcare, drug policy, environmental policy, social policies bad. Did I get that right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by Tracy2 â€” December 7, 2007 @ 4:19 pm</p>
<p>Just checking to see that I have this right. Foreign intelligence good (if it supports US preconceived desires). Foreign judicial systems, taxation, healthcare, drug policy, environmental policy, social policies bad. Did I get that right?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181957', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tombaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>tombaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear, if these crazy moonbats who live all around me don&#039;t get serious about securing their perimeters, I&#039;m going to stop wasting valuable ammo defending them from the hordes.

I&#039;m well-supplied - don&#039;t anyone get me wrong about my paramilitary capabilities - long, strong, and hard as steel around here, but I just can&#039;t see wasting my firepower on these people who won&#039;t get down to the Walmart and start amassing their own arsenals.

Whaddya say, Tracy - let&#039;s get together, lock and load, and run some of these pacifist terrorist-sympathizers right on down to Mexico.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear, if these crazy moonbats who live all around me don&#8217;t get serious about securing their perimeters, I&#8217;m going to stop wasting valuable ammo defending them from the hordes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m well-supplied &#8211; don&#8217;t anyone get me wrong about my paramilitary capabilities &#8211; long, strong, and hard as steel around here, but I just can&#8217;t see wasting my firepower on these people who won&#8217;t get down to the Walmart and start amassing their own arsenals.</p>
<p>Whaddya say, Tracy &#8211; let&#8217;s get together, lock and load, and run some of these pacifist terrorist-sympathizers right on down to Mexico.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181944', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tombaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>tombaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy - How many AQ operatives did you have to &quot;take out&quot; just to make it to work today?

I barely survived the commute myself, had to engage a band of hostiles near the minimart - they almost got my head, but I was able to prevail, thanks to Jesus (and Smith&amp;Wesson, of course).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy &#8211; How many AQ operatives did you have to &#8220;take out&#8221; just to make it to work today?</p>
<p>I barely survived the commute myself, had to engage a band of hostiles near the minimart &#8211; they almost got my head, but I was able to prevail, thanks to Jesus (and Smith&amp;Wesson, of course).<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181939', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Tracy2 â€” December 7, 2007 @ 4:12 pm

The right freaks out anytime anyone suggest that the States consider what other nations think and do. Why would they now give a damn?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by Tracy2 â€” December 7, 2007 @ 4:12 pm</p>
<p>The right freaks out anytime anyone suggest that the States consider what other nations think and do. Why would they now give a damn?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181927', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tombaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>tombaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank&#039;s Fatal Flaw - Believing that most everyone else is as ill-informed and slow on the uptake as he.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank&#8217;s Fatal Flaw &#8211; Believing that most everyone else is as ill-informed and slow on the uptake as he.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181869', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: missmolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>missmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong? Itâ€™s funny how the dems havenâ€™t managed to accomplish anything after they gained majorities in both chambers. Iâ€™d rather be wrong than ineffectual.

Comment by Frank M â€” December 7, 2007 @ 12:58 pm

It&#039;s better to be wrong than ineffectual?  If you ever run for office, I recommend you don&#039;t use that as a campaign slogan.

As far as the Dems in Congress go -- most of what they &quot;haven&#039;t managed to accomplish&quot; is due to Republican obstructionism.  This is enabled only by the fact that the Dems don&#039;t make up 60% in either chamber.  YET.  After the 2008 elections, expect a major uptick in Dem accomplishments.

Oh, and just because the GOP has attempted to block the Dems at every turn doesn&#039;t mean they haven&#039;t accomplished anything:

http://majorityleader.house.gov/docUploads/CaucusHouseAccomplishmentsJune2007.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong? Itâ€™s funny how the dems havenâ€™t managed to accomplish anything after they gained majorities in both chambers. Iâ€™d rather be wrong than ineffectual.</p>
<p>Comment by Frank M â€” December 7, 2007 @ 12:58 pm</p>
<p>It&#8217;s better to be wrong than ineffectual?  If you ever run for office, I recommend you don&#8217;t use that as a campaign slogan.</p>
<p>As far as the Dems in Congress go &#8212; most of what they &#8220;haven&#8217;t managed to accomplish&#8221; is due to Republican obstructionism.  This is enabled only by the fact that the Dems don&#8217;t make up 60% in either chamber.  YET.  After the 2008 elections, expect a major uptick in Dem accomplishments.</p>
<p>Oh, and just because the GOP has attempted to block the Dems at every turn doesn&#8217;t mean they haven&#8217;t accomplished anything:</p>
<p><a href="http://majorityleader.house.gov/docUploads/CaucusHouseAccomplishmentsJune2007.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://majorityleader.house.gov/docUploads/CaucusHouseAccomplishmentsJune2007.pdf</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181806', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tombaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>tombaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>31 - yes it is. remember New Hampshireâ€™s state motto?????? any ideas on what it means???????

Comment by tombaker â€” December 7, 2007 @ 2:25 pm

Didn&#039;t realize Frank&#039;s original cowardly decree was back up at 18.

I still want Frank to understand that the Constitution is something any real Patriot would give up his life for.

Live FREE or Die - Frank. That&#039;s the real Patiot&#039;s call to arms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>31 &#8211; yes it is. remember New Hampshireâ€™s state motto?????? any ideas on what it means???????</p>
<p>Comment by tombaker â€” December 7, 2007 @ 2:25 pm</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t realize Frank&#8217;s original cowardly decree was back up at 18.</p>
<p>I still want Frank to understand that the Constitution is something any real Patriot would give up his life for.</p>
<p>Live FREE or Die &#8211; Frank. That&#8217;s the real Patiot&#8217;s call to arms.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181753', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MapleStreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>MapleStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dumb Question: &quot;I don&#039;t know if waterboarding is torture&quot; Mukaskey will investigate the tapes.  But as waterboarding isn&#039;t defined as torture(in Mukaskey&#039;s mind after extensive discussions with Blackwater), then the tapes didn&#039;t show anything illegal and therefore destroying them is A OK ?

How do we stop the Merry-go-Round ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumb Question: &#8220;I don&#8217;t know if waterboarding is torture&#8221; Mukaskey will investigate the tapes.  But as waterboarding isn&#8217;t defined as torture(in Mukaskey&#8217;s mind after extensive discussions with Blackwater), then the tapes didn&#8217;t show anything illegal and therefore destroying them is A OK ?</p>
<p>How do we stop the Merry-go-Round ?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181718', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pluege</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/07/durbin-calls-on-mukasey-to-investigate-cia/comment-page-1/#comment-4181705</link>
		<dc:creator>pluege</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;as it appears to be â€œa clear case of obstruction of justice.â€&lt;/em&gt;

guess bush will be pulling out the old pardon pen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>as it appears to be â€œa clear case of obstruction of justice.â€</em></p>
<p>guess bush will be pulling out the old pardon pen.<br />
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		<title>By: tombaker</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/07/durbin-calls-on-mukasey-to-investigate-cia/comment-page-1/#comment-4181700</link>
		<dc:creator>tombaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>31 - yes it is. remember New Hampshire&#039;s state motto?????? any ideas on what it means???????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>31 &#8211; yes it is. remember New Hampshire&#8217;s state motto?????? any ideas on what it means???????<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181700', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Buckie Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buckie Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DanCaveman I was referring to Frank M. his post was #25 at one point, someone got deleted and yours took its place.

Buck Fush</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DanCaveman I was referring to Frank M. his post was #25 at one point, someone got deleted and yours took its place.</p>
<p>Buck Fush<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181685', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Max-1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max-1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

&lt;b&gt;They destroyed TWO tapes?

Just TWO? 

Not &quot;THE&quot; tapes?

WHERE ARE THE REST?
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<p><b>They destroyed TWO tapes?</p>
<p>Just TWO? </p>
<p>Not &#8220;THE&#8221; tapes?</p>
<p>WHERE ARE THE REST?<br />
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		<title>By: Proud American Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Proud American Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;These people (and I use that term loosely) we are fighting understand only violence: violence they employ and the threat of violence we pose. If we tie our hands behind our back and refuse to fight violence with equal or superior violence, we will lose because violence is all weâ€™ve got. Heck, even the Nazis and the Japanese negotiated. These animals will not.&quot;

Frank, I do believe you have described George Bush and the neocons precisely.  The only thing they know how to do is send other people to die for their riches and lie about the reasons.  Bush&#039;s only solution to anything is violence.  If there are &quot;Islamofascists&quot; who do the same thing, then Bush and his ilk created them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;These people (and I use that term loosely) we are fighting understand only violence: violence they employ and the threat of violence we pose. If we tie our hands behind our back and refuse to fight violence with equal or superior violence, we will lose because violence is all weâ€™ve got. Heck, even the Nazis and the Japanese negotiated. These animals will not.&#8221;</p>
<p>Frank, I do believe you have described George Bush and the neocons precisely.  The only thing they know how to do is send other people to die for their riches and lie about the reasons.  Bush&#8217;s only solution to anything is violence.  If there are &#8220;Islamofascists&#8221; who do the same thing, then Bush and his ilk created them.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181654', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DanCaveman</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/07/durbin-calls-on-mukasey-to-investigate-cia/comment-page-1/#comment-4181616</link>
		<dc:creator>DanCaveman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My bad...I think you were replying to #24 (that is why I usually just quote instead of refer to numbers =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bad&#8230;I think you were replying to #24 (that is why I usually just quote instead of refer to numbers =)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181616', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JPV</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/07/durbin-calls-on-mukasey-to-investigate-cia/comment-page-1/#comment-4181612</link>
		<dc:creator>JPV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;This is a test for the new AG for sure on how really loyal he is to the President.

Comment by SP Biloxi &lt;/em&gt;

Loyalty to the President? LOL!!!

Mukasey is a dual American-Israeli citizen (as is Michael Chertoff BTW).

I can tell you EXACTLY where his loyalties lie... and it&#039;s NOT with the President.</description>
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<p>Loyalty to the President? LOL!!!</p>
<p>Mukasey is a dual American-Israeli citizen (as is Michael Chertoff BTW).</p>
<p>I can tell you EXACTLY where his loyalties lie&#8230; and it&#8217;s NOT with the President.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181612', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DanCaveman</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/07/durbin-calls-on-mukasey-to-investigate-cia/comment-page-1/#comment-4181609</link>
		<dc:creator>DanCaveman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;#25 - It is you that is naive Frank the Moron, if Bushâ€™s torturing, er enhanced interrogation methods had turned up any evidence at all they would be Screaming it out at the top of their lungs.

Man, you are loathsome and stupid to boot.

Comment by Buckie Boy â€” December 7, 2007 @ 1:19 pm&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Are you referring to my post arguing that torture is wrong as well as how it doesn&#039;t work?  If so, I believe that you misread my post as well as my other posts.  If you weren&#039;t referring to me, I apologize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>#25 &#8211; It is you that is naive Frank the Moron, if Bushâ€™s torturing, er enhanced interrogation methods had turned up any evidence at all they would be Screaming it out at the top of their lungs.</p>
<p>Man, you are loathsome and stupid to boot.</p>
<p>Comment by Buckie Boy â€” December 7, 2007 @ 1:19 pm</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Are you referring to my post arguing that torture is wrong as well as how it doesn&#8217;t work?  If so, I believe that you misread my post as well as my other posts.  If you weren&#8217;t referring to me, I apologize.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4181609', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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