‘Well-Informed’ Source Tells CBS That Tapes Were Destroyed To Prevent Prosecution
‘Well-Informed’ Source Tells CBS That Tapes Were Destroyed To Prevent Prosecution
Last night on the CBS Evening News, national security correspondent David Martin reported that a “well-informed source” informed the network that the CIA destroyed the interrogation videos to “avoid criminal prosecution.”
On Thursday, in a memo to CIA employees, Director Michael Hayden claimed that the videotapes were destroyed because they “posed a serious security risk“:
Beyond their lack of intelligence value — as the interrogation sessions had already been exhaustively detailed in written channels — and the absence of any legal or internal reason to keep them, the tapes posed a serious security risk. Were they ever to leak, they would permit identification of your CIA colleagues who had served in the program, exposing them and their families to retaliation from al-Qa’ida and its sympathizers.
CBS’s Martin reported, however, that a high-level anonymous source says that’s not true:
A well-informed source tells CBS News the videotapes of the interrogation of two high-level al Qaeda operatives were destroyed to protect CIA officers from criminal prosecution.
Watch it:
On Friday, Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) scoffed at Hayden’s rationale for destroying the tapes, calling it a “pathetic excuse.” “You’d have to burn every document at the CIA that has the identity of an agent on it under that theory,” Levin said.
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), however, said he would not side with calls for an investigation because he believed the CIA’s actions were legal. “That doesn’t mean I like it,” McCain added.
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My interrogation german shepherd ate my torture tape…
December 8th, 2007 at 3:47 pmWell, duuuuuh.
December 8th, 2007 at 3:48 pmDestroyed not only to prevent criminal prosecution of the CIA agents involved, but of their masters as well. And especially.
December 8th, 2007 at 3:49 pmInconceivable!
December 8th, 2007 at 3:50 pmMcCain, principled up to the moment he needs to take a stand.
-GSD
December 8th, 2007 at 3:52 pmJust so amazing that John McCain has such questionable judgment on partisan issues. And the destroyed tapes is only partisan because the Rethugs chose this action. How could evidence of terrorist activities and any investigation thereof be destroyed before the trials of the accused? This is beyond the Watergate tapes and heads need to roll.
December 8th, 2007 at 3:54 pmNo doubt neocon hack Mukasey will pounce on this obvious case of obstruction of justice!
December 8th, 2007 at 4:00 pmideologies before realpolitik.
Comment by Frank M
Reminds us of a spoiled-rotten loser kid from Texas who dreamed of being a “war Prezidunce”.
Fran likes it when his ideologies turn and bite him on his a$$.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:08 pmA pity the bastards were not nearly as concerned about protecting Valerie Plame’s identy!
December 8th, 2007 at 4:08 pmDirector Michael Hayden is an enemy of this country!!! He is a facist phu(k! Are all the handcuffs in this country broken???????
7 years and no one arrested!!!
Where’s the Congress? Spinless in BOTH parties!!!
Democracy is dead in this country!!!!!
December 8th, 2007 at 4:08 pmIt’s a damn shame for this country that scum like Frank M have chosen to completely abandon the rule of law.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:09 pmFrank, why do you hate the rule of law?
December 8th, 2007 at 4:10 pmFrank, why do you hate the rule of law?
Comment by VerbalKint
Call it “Fran”. It goes best with it’s high heels and mini-skirt.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:11 pmAnd while we’re at it, Frank, what do you make of Hayden’s bizarre, laughable excuse for destroying the tapes? Why can’t Hayden come up with anything better? Is the situation really that desperate for your team? Is it fourth down and 99 yards to go with 3 seconds on the clock yet?
December 8th, 2007 at 4:12 pmThey would have to burn all their records? Hmm … is that smoke I see coming from Langley?
December 8th, 2007 at 4:12 pmVerbalKint,
Who is Frank M? I can’t find that name in the story above.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:13 pmCall it “Franâ€. It goes best with it’s high heels and mini-skirt.
Comment by DieNowForPeace — December 8, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
Implying that this bedwetting freak is in any way female is to slander everyone lacking a Y chromosome.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:13 pmFrank is someone who actually believes we should all kowtow to the Cheerleader Prince, and remain blissfully ignorant of our Constitution and laws.
He is one of those “Authoritarian Follower Personalities” one sometimes reads about.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:14 pmWho is Frank M?
Comment by dixie blood — December 8, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
A very good question. Nominally it is the bewetting troll that pooped in comment #7, but who is Frank M really, I wonder? Or better yet, who does Frank M work for?
December 8th, 2007 at 4:15 pmThe evidence is failing to reach an acceptable standard for the administration and the country.
BUSHIT
December 8th, 2007 at 4:16 pmHe is one of those “Authoritarian Follower Personalities†one sometimes reads about.
Comment by tombaker — December 8, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
I believe the usual working acronym in the psychology literature is RWA (right wing authoritarian).
December 8th, 2007 at 4:16 pmSen. John McCain (R-AZ), however, said he would not side with calls for an investigation because he believed the CIA’s actions were legal. “That doesn’t mean I like it,†McCain added.
He went on to say, “That doesn’t mean I like it, but this is a Republican administration and as with all good Republicans, it’s Party before Country for me.”
December 8th, 2007 at 4:17 pmSen. John McCain believed the CIA’s actions were legal. Well, what do you know, obstruction of justice is legal if a repukian does it.
Bush/Cheney/CIA
Hague Trials ‘09
Buck Fush
December 8th, 2007 at 4:19 pmVerb - thanks for the clarification.
I didn’t realize I was being scientific by calling them Righties, but I was.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:19 pmComment by Frank M — December 8, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
Frannie, Frannie, Frannie… why can’t you learn ONE simple lesson?
You p*ss into the wind, yer gonna get wet, and you, my li’l trollie troll, are soaked from head ta toe.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:20 pmThe evidence is failing to reach an acceptable standard for the administration and the country.
Comment by Clumberfeet — December 8, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
Under normal circumstances, I’d agree with you. But this administration has so successfully lowered the bar for honor and operating standards that this case looks no more damaging than any of the other twenty scandals that have failed to inspire Nancy to put impeachment on the table.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:20 pmMcCain’s chance of winning the nomination is just about zero. Let’s talk about how Huckabee interfered with the parole board to get a rapist-murderer released to satisfy RWA evangelicals who had cooked up a conspiracy theory that the rapist-murderer was an innocent man imprisoned at the behest of the Bill Clinton. Then let’s talk about how Huckabee’s version of the story is contradicted by several parole board members.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:21 pmImplying that this bedwetting freak is in any way female is to slander everyone lacking a Y chromosome.
Comment by VerbalKint
Well, it doesn’t do the male gender any good either!
December 8th, 2007 at 4:22 pmoff-topic:
When did Chelsea blossom? She’s been off the radar too long!
http://news.yahoo.com/ nphotos/ Hillary-Clinton-Chelsea-Clinton-Sen-Hillary-Rodham-Clinton-Des-Moines/ ss/ events/ pl/ 081702hillary/ s:/ ap/ 20071208/ ap_on_el_pr/ clinton_women/ im:/ 071208/ 480/ 7a3f02b830344744abfea22e436ba8bf/
Hubba-hubba!
December 8th, 2007 at 4:24 pmWell, it doesn’t do the male gender any good either!
Comment by DieNowForPeace — December 8, 2007 @ 4:22 pm
I prefer to view mean little trolls as a sort of genderless it.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:24 pmI prefer to view mean little trolls as a sort of genderless it.
Comment by VerbalKint — December 8, 2007 @ 4:24 pm
Neuter? Or neutered? I’m going w/ neutered, myself.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:25 pmI prefer to view mean little trolls as a sort of genderless it.
Comment by VerbalKint
Or some sort of hermaphrodite, gender-confused, twisted soul.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:26 pmComment by VerbalKint — December 8, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
Huckleberry has LIED and LIED and LIED about this topic!!!
He went to the Parole Board!!
He asked for this rapist to get out early!!
The rapist raped and murdered!!!
Clinton had nothing to do with Huckleberries sh|t here!!!
December 8th, 2007 at 4:27 pmComment by DieNowForPeace — December 8, 2007 @ 4:24 pm
Down boy! Heel!
December 8th, 2007 at 4:27 pmComment by DieNowForPeace — December 8, 2007 @ 4:26 pm
Everything in yer comment is correct, except the “soul” part, right at the end. Trolls like Frannie don’t have souls. I’m just astonised the trolls can STILL justify Clinton’s impeachment over a hummer and the lie therein, and continue to excuse the hideous, corrupt, murderously inept Bushies, no matter what new twisted revelation comes forth.
The trolls DO NOT have souls.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:29 pmHuckleberry has LIED and LIED and LIED about this topic!!!
Comment by dixie blood — December 8, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
And he continues to lie about it.
Let’s see: McCain has no chance. Huck will go down in flames soon enough. The bigoted evangelical base won’t vote for a Mormon. And Giuliani needs an entire Manhattan apartment, paid for by taxpayers, to hide his skeletons. I guess that just about wraps it up for Republicans.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:30 pmHuckleberry claimed that Dumont found god or religion and he got conned by a con man using his own beliefs in Jebus!!!!!
Superstition sucks!!!
And now Huckleberry will find that out!!!!!!
December 8th, 2007 at 4:31 pmYea right. They want to protect the identity of the interrogators? More likely, they’re overdosing on Kool-Aid, the poor bastages. Since they’re so keen on protecting these identities, obviously they must be outsourced Blackwater employees.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:33 pmIt’s a good thing that the dems sitting in oversight committees seem to be more of the reality based, senior dems instead of the hothead “code pink†type of dems who’d put ideologies before realpolitik.
Comment by Frank M — December 8, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
earlier:
I’m a fascist and proud of it.
Comment by Frank M — December 8, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
“realpolitik” frank?
December 8th, 2007 at 4:35 pm“realpolitik†frank?
Comment by joe cantwell — December 8, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
Sorry, joe, but the inherent irony in Frannie’s comments is totally lost on him, er, her, ah… it… totally lost on it.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:38 pmWell, I think we all quickly deduced that the destruction was a coverup of a crime.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:48 pmWhat I want to know is will the investigation go anywhere? Will those who are found guilty be prosecuted? Will the people at the top really responsible for all the crime and lies in this administration (Bush/Cheney et al.) ever have to pay the price?
I don’t want to see an aide to an aide alone suffer consequences. Will our representatives finally ferret out the truth and exact punishment?
“well-informed sourceâ€!!
This sounds like a very, very credible source!
BREAKING NEWS!!
Harry “The Body” Reid and Nancy Pelosi were caught selling documents to Iran! This was just reported by a “well-informed sourceâ€!!!
Question: Why would anyone even bother to run a ridiculous story like this??????
December 8th, 2007 at 4:52 pmWell well well. #43 stands as a tribute to the dignity and intelligence of Bush’s base. This masterpiece of a straw man speaks for itself and bears no further comment.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:54 pmQuestion: Why would anyone even bother to run a ridiculous story like this??????
Comment by John Kerry
Look in the mirror, that’s why.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:55 pmfor the franks and berts, laws are just something to arbitrarily apply to brown people - never intended to hold white christian men to any standard.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:57 pmWhy would anyone even bother to run a ridiculous story like this??????
Comment by John Kerry — December 8, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
Perhaps you should be asking why Michael Hayden couldn’t come up with an excuse that isn’t patently ludicrous.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:57 pm(unless that white christian is poor, that is)
December 8th, 2007 at 4:57 pmLet’s see, which of these two competing theories makes more sense:
1. Destroyed evidence because of fear of being prosecuted.
2. Destroyed evidence because of fear that the CIA would simply lose the tapes.
December 8th, 2007 at 4:59 pm(unless that white christian is poor, that is)
Comment by tombaker — December 8, 2007 @ 4:57 pm
or homosexual or in anyway disagrees with Fearless Leader.
December 8th, 2007 at 5:01 pmMind numbing stupidity.
December 8th, 2007 at 5:01 pmAccountable: ‘Something the bad people in our government learn the hard way….sooner or later.’
December 8th, 2007 at 5:03 pmor homosexual or in anyway disagrees with Fearless Leader.
Comment by gah — December 8, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
Homosexual is okay if you are a Republican, though. Pedophile, too, if you don’t get caught. Prostitutes, getting caught is okay. But only if you are a Republican marches in lockstep with Fearless Leader.
December 8th, 2007 at 5:03 pmImagine the conflict you moonbats would be having if the CIA agent waterboarding the beheader was Valerie lame Plame.
Self-serving hypotheicals are meaningless, Berty.
It’s the same CIA you loved when lame plame was your darling.
WTF??? this doesn’t even make any sense???
You libs had a conniption about revieling the identity of that loser but these CIA agents are diffrent huh? Hypocrites.
No, you’re not making an iota of sense here.
Merry waterboarding Christmas moonbats
*bert
*
Comment by BERT CONVY — December 8, 2007 @ 4:50 pm
This is one of the more asinine troll comments I’ve ever seen here. Utterly irrational gibberish. Man, it must be painful to live w/ that mindset all the time. No wonder poor li’l Bertie is in such a bad mood all the time.
December 8th, 2007 at 5:05 pmComment by John Kerry — December 8, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
Question???? Why would anyone even bother to post such an absurd comment like this???
December 8th, 2007 at 5:07 pmAnd no one in congress has given any thought to the amount of evidence that will be destroyed between now and mid January 2009 either.
As to Chelsea blooming? Even Hillary doesn’t look bad from 60 feet away.
December 8th, 2007 at 5:15 pmHAGE 09!!!!! As per MacCain’s coments… I’ll tell him to go shopping for ruggs in Bagdad!
December 8th, 2007 at 5:16 pmjust heard:
(CNN) — The Justice Department and the CIA will jointly investigate the destruction of videotapes of CIA interrogations of two al Qaeda suspects, a top official said.
December 8th, 2007 at 5:17 pm[…]
http://www.cnn.com/ 2007/ US/ law/ 12/ 08/ cia.videotapes/
Jay Rockefeller and Chuck Hagel are going to be on “Face the Nation” tomorrow. Let’s see what Ol’ Jellyfish Jay has to say for himself.
December 8th, 2007 at 5:17 pm“Well informed sources†at CBS simply means the folks in the back room who are forging the documentation for their next “big storyâ€.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 8, 2007 @ 5:12 pm
Ya mean, a clueless hypocritical windbag such as yerself, making up gibberish to fit your own, predetermined agenda?
December 8th, 2007 at 5:19 pmconsequences:
Destruction of Tapes Could Alter Prosecutions
By DAVID JOHNSTON
Published: December 9, 2007
WASHINGTON, Dec. 8 — The destruction of hundreds of hours of videotapes showing interrogations of top operatives of Al Qaeda, including Abu Zubaydah, could complicate the prosecution of Mr. Zubaydah and others, and it underscores the deep uncertainties that have plagued government officials about the interrogation program.
Officials acknowledged on Friday that the destruction of evidence like videotaped interrogations could raise questions about whether the Central Intelligence Agency was seeking to hide evidence of coercion. A review of records in military tribunals indicates that five lower-level detainees at Guantánamo were initially charged with offenses based on information that was provided by or related to Mr. Zubaydah. Lawyers for these detainees could argue that they needed the tapes to determine what, if anything, Mr. Zubaydah had said about them.
[…]
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2007/ 12/ 09/ washington/ 09zubaydah.html?ref=world
way. to. go. …
December 8th, 2007 at 5:20 pmIt’s a good thing that the dems sitting in oversight committees seem to be more of the reality based, senior dems instead of the hothead “code pink†type of dems who’d put ideologies before realpolitik.
Comment by Frank M —
More regurgitation from the whitehouse. How does your vomit taste Frank?
December 8th, 2007 at 5:21 pmSeig Heil Bigfoot.
December 8th, 2007 at 5:22 pmQuestion: Why would anyone even bother to run a ridiculous story like this??????
Comment by John Kerry — December 8, 2007 @ 4:52
Bause it will most likely be true, like the rather story was. The fact that your treason party can deflect you robots so easily reminds me of why Germany lost the war; because Hitler relied on the same idiots that the repigs rely on: sheeple like frank M, bigfoot and john kerry, proven cowards and ideologues without a trace of patriotism.
December 8th, 2007 at 5:22 pmthese righty “dead-enders” sure are a comical bunch.
billo’s not even as funny as they are - it’s like Colbert went and forgot who he really was, and climbed inside his character for real.
one man’s meat is another man’s comedy, i reckon.
December 8th, 2007 at 5:23 pmSo McCain views obstruction of justice as legal. How does this make McCain any different from George W. Bush.
I’m sure those tapes were kept in a locked vault so where was the security risk? That leaves the obvious. There was a fear that they could be used in a criminal prosecution against those that ordered torture.
The next step we can expect is a call for a mis-trial in the hand-full of cases already tried. What an awful mess Bush has made of everything.
December 8th, 2007 at 5:28 pmWell-Informed’ Source Tells CBS That Tapes Were Destroyed To Prevent Prosecution
December 8th, 2007 at 5:37 pmSo, the so-called congress will send nice letters to the rascals asking them to “pretty please” fess up.
Ho, Hum.
#66: Nonsense. Hitler lost, because he got himself into a multi-front war against enemies who were thoroughly able to outproduce and outnumber his armies.
Comment by Frank M — December 8, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
How does that vary from the current quagmire?
December 8th, 2007 at 5:49 pm“Hitler lost, because he got himself into a multi-front war against enemies who were thoroughly able to outproduce and outnumber his armies.”
Comment by Frank M
He lost because he made a deal with Stalin, and then broke it. If he hadn’t, you’d be typing in German right now.
December 8th, 2007 at 5:50 pmComment by barfly — December 8, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
December 8th, 2007 at 5:56 pmOr Japanese or Italian.
Hey libs! I can’t even believe that you left nut wackos would even try and defend a story like this based on a “well-informed sourceâ€!!!
Can anyone spell DAN RATHER??????
BREAKING NEWS FROM “well-informed sourceâ€!!!
Hillary Clinton Admits Extramarital Affair With Sandy Burglar!!!
Says “he’s got more in his pants but stolen papers!”
-For more details please go to MEDIA MATTERS and click under: “well-informed sourceâ€!!!
December 8th, 2007 at 5:57 pmObstruction! Obstruction!!!
December 8th, 2007 at 6:01 pmThe trolls aren’t thinking this through clearly (surprise!).
December 8th, 2007 at 6:02 pmValerie Plane was exposed as she was working explicitly on weapons proliferation in Iran, and would have uncovered the duo-sham of Bush/Cheney — videos showing identities of agents in illegal interrogations could easily have been pixelated or “redacted” — our government knows a lot about redacting.
Protecting identities of agents is paramount to security - no democrat has said an agent should be exposed — that occurs only in the minds of traitorous republiscum.
This is good!
Last night on the CBS Evening News, national security correspondent David Martin reported that a “well-informed source†informed the network that the CIA destroyed the interrogation videos to “avoid criminal prosecution.â€
And then:
CBS’s Martin reported, however, that a high-level anonymous source says that’s not true!!
Now I wonder why you libs aren’t believing that trustworthy “high-level anonymous source”! Hmmm!!
December 8th, 2007 at 6:08 pmDid someone just use the term “raghead”? What a freaking tool!
December 8th, 2007 at 6:11 pmjk’s wacked on the oxy - someone alert his neighbors.
December 8th, 2007 at 6:18 pm[frank must be catchin’ a buzz too, cause now he’s attackin’ his own due to his diminished reading/comprehension skills]
December 8th, 2007 at 6:19 pmBottom line: WHO CARES???
December 8th, 2007 at 6:22 pmthere’s a match i’d pay to watch
righty vs righty, on whether Ahamdenijad is Hitler-y than Hitler.
December 8th, 2007 at 6:22 pmif you didn’t care, jk, you wouldn’t be here.
if you’d like to prove that you don’t care, you could go away, and really teach us all a lesson we’d not soon forget.
December 8th, 2007 at 6:23 pmOh dear, oh dear, I hate to think what went through the shredder
Cheney ordered the other day.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2006/ 10/ 30/ document-shredding-truck-_n_32832.html
Do any of you here truly believe, they will let themselves be caught? Remember the Rome Agreement on the International Criminal Court that the Bush administration so quickly “unsigned” in 2002? They do what they are doing premeditatedly and wilfully and they are not planning to do time for it.
December 8th, 2007 at 6:30 pmI’m sure, doro, they’ve provided themselves with a number of exit-strategies in regard to the Legal System - that’s what they were working on while they weren’t working on one for Iraq.
December 8th, 2007 at 6:43 pmtombaker, you’re right. That’s what I’m saying. While they were planning and doing unspeakable things, they at the same time made sure the International Criminal Court won’t be able to touch them. Hey they are threatening a military intervention if a US citizen is tried in the Hague. They wouldn’t do that for every Tom, Dick and Joe. Come to think of it, for Dick, yeah for Dick they would.
December 8th, 2007 at 6:47 pmbill o’reilly’s honor roll of satan worshipping trolls:
Comment by BERT CONVY — December 8, 2007 @ 4:50 pm
Comment by Frank M — December 8, 2007 @ 6:09 pm
(admitted fascist)
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 8, 2007 @ 5:12 pm
(biggie i’m shocked, did you know you’re making baby jesus cry?)
December 8th, 2007 at 6:48 pmNEWSFLASH TO LIBS!!!
George Bush is NOT running for President in ‘08!!
December 8th, 2007 at 6:51 pmNewsflash to JK
The others are not worth mentioning. The GOP is toast!
December 8th, 2007 at 6:53 pmnewsflash to jk
dubya isn’t president!
(you satan worshipper. billy’s right you would waterboard baby jesus, wouldn’t you?)
December 8th, 2007 at 6:54 pm90 - bottom line: who cares (right?)
December 8th, 2007 at 6:57 pm90 - bottom line: who cares (right?)
Comment by tombaker — December 8, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
good catch, a definite flip-flop there.
jk?
December 8th, 2007 at 7:00 pmhe’s all buzzed up on the oxy - don’t count on any coherence.
December 8th, 2007 at 7:04 pmNEWSFLASH TO LIB WACKOS!
Hillary is washed up, too old and not relevant!
Obama is too young and inexperienced!
Edwards! …….not even worth thinking about!
And the winnah in 2008 is……………………!
REPUBLICANS for 8 more years!!
Thanks and have a great day!
A “well-informed source†and “high-level anonymous source”!!
December 8th, 2007 at 7:08 pmNewsflash to JK
Lib Wackos have hit a nerve!
December 8th, 2007 at 7:12 pmComment by John Kerry — December 8, 2007 @ 7:08 pm
Your funny.
December 8th, 2007 at 7:14 pmjk, sound a little angry there girl, eh?
December 8th, 2007 at 7:16 pmthis ot but i think jk may have hurt herself… she’s not responding. i was afraid this might happen. underneath it all she’s really quite sensitive.
December 8th, 2007 at 7:23 pmWhy do I feel like this country is very quickly going to hell in a hand-basket under the Republican regime.
December 8th, 2007 at 7:47 pmCome to think of it, for Dick, yeah for Dick they would.
Comment by doro — December 8, 2007 @ 6:47 pm
I think it’s pretty obvious at this point that GOOPers would do anything for some Dick…
December 8th, 2007 at 8:28 pm#72: LOL! You think the ragheads can outnumber, outgun or outproduce us?
Comment by Frank M — December 8, 2007 @ 6:09 pm
That’s the point, Frank, you ignorant fool. That’s why there was no reason to attack iraq, or Iran, except to murder hundreds of thousands of innocents in the quest for bigger oil profits. But, cowardly chickenhawks like you bought the administrations lies and happily swallowed their war-cum, all the while doing everything uyou could to avoid sacrificing in any way for your great leader. Pansies, all of you.
December 8th, 2007 at 9:33 pmPlease see # 96 again!
If you libs need a translator…get one!
A “well-informed sourceâ€
December 8th, 2007 at 9:50 pmDeep Throat was an “informed source” that instigated the fall of a presidency. American democracy and the existence of an informed electorate depends upon the willingness of informed sources to come forward and for journalists to report the truths that such sources have to tell. Clearly, journalists relying upon such sources must investigate the information provided and the veracity of the source, or we all lose. The public must also maintain a healthy skepticism of such sources, just as we do about politicians and the “truths” they tell, and particularly, when they seek to allay our skepticism with assurrances that they will investigate their own wrongdoing (or in McCain’s case, that no investigation is necessary because “I believe the actions were legal” . . . this from the guy who assurred us that Iraq had WMD so the invasion and occupation of Iraq were justified).
Don’t shoot the messenger . . . investigate the message.
December 8th, 2007 at 10:21 pm“#72: LOL! You think the ragheads can outnumber, outgun or outproduce us?”
Hey, ferret-face (if you don’t get the reference you must be young indeed)…We could NOT outnumber the USSR. We waited them out and let their own weaknesses destroy them from the inside out. Sounds awfully familiar.
December 9th, 2007 at 12:09 amBecause they are so supremely certain that no investigation will ever take place, they are secure in destroying any and all evidence, intimidating potential witnesses and telling lies.
Their fear that their immunity may be under seige has laid transparent their fears. It has resulted in their adamant assertions that “No law has been broken and so no investigation is necessary” and “We’ll conduct our own very thorough investigation of ourselves.” Nowhere do you see any assurance that, “We do not doubt our own adherence to the intent and letter of the law, but because you do, we respect your right to have an independent agency investigate our lawful activities.” This utter lack of respect for the intelligence of the public and their obligations as public servants cries out for investigation.
Republicans’ concerted efforts to silence critics screams guilt . . . The Constitution demands appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate RICO violations at all levels and all branches of government.
Lady Liberty isn’t shedding a tear . . . she’s bawling.
The land set aside in Dallas for Bush’s library and think tank should be razed and left bare except for an exact replica of Gitmo and a boarded up courthouse . . . no grass . . . no trees . . . no wildlife . . . no birds or bees or insects . . . just a friendly reminder of what can happen when you let a spoiled flunky, elitest bully bent on revenge and bigotry control the most powerful country on earth . . . scorched earth . . . scorched America is his legacy. . . a legacy America as we knew it may not live to forget.
December 9th, 2007 at 12:22 amThat little Dubbie was his Mommy’s precious, special, little fellow when he wore his prep-school cheerleader outfit…
…but now he’s all weary and worn down, and, if you look into his eyes,
you can see the reflection of the headlight on the freight train that’s bearing down on him now.
December 9th, 2007 at 1:40 amBush and Cheney outed Plame, who by all accounts was a valuable covert asset. Now we find they protect illegal interrogation activities and have the audacity to claim they acted to protect the identity of the interrogators.
Talk about moonbats. Anyone who supports Bush and Cheney is bizarre to say the least.
Commit this to memory.
December 9th, 2007 at 7:30 am1) Devoutly religious people are the most dangerous people on earth.
2) Democrats/liberals are better people than repubican/conservatives.
“#72: LOL! You think the ragheads can outnumber, outgun or outproduce us?”
Wassamatter, Frank M? Frustrated cuz they hain’t been a good lynchin’ lately? Yeeeeehawwww!!!
December 9th, 2007 at 10:20 amI am feeling hopeless at this moment. I’d been thinking that once we got a democrat in the Whitehouse and a larger majority of democrats in both the house and senate that we’d see the rule of law, fairness, decency, and adherence to our constitution return
December 9th, 2007 at 12:49 pmNow I’m not so sure
Really worthy read:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/index.html
Beyond their lack of intelligence value — as the interrogation sessions had already been exhaustively detailed in written channels — and the absence of any legal or internal reason to keep them, the tapes posed a serious security risk. Were they ever to leak, they would permit identification of your CIA colleagues who had served in the program, exposing them and their families to retaliation from al-Qa’ida and its sympathizers.
Thus….
1. We no longer need to play footsies over whether or not waterboarding is being used and is or is not legal. It has no intelligence value (much like Bush, but that’s another story) — so sayeth the director of the CIA.
2. A pity that the WH couldn’t keep their f-ing mouths shut about Plame.
December 9th, 2007 at 4:56 pmThis all kind of reminds me of the Rodney King video, only much worse for the premediating nature of these beasts.
If you want to topple the regime, stop paying your mortgage. They’re weak and vulnerable there right now. And it’s likely you paid 10x too much for that McShack anyway.
Don Robertson, The American Philosopher
December 9th, 2007 at 7:56 pmWhenever torture comes up, John McCain’s name comes with it!
I think he is just as bad as the rest of them! He has been given way too much leeway because of his prisoner status! Its time he got over it and earned his way! There are a lot more vets in the senate that have earned a lot more respect than John McCain!
He is very much like Arlen Specter, a lot of hot air, posturing and final cave in as soon as Bush gives him a dirty look!
December 11th, 2007 at 1:31 amtotally garbage—–they could have obliterated anyones identity—they are the experts—after all did they not make bogus tapes of osama—-time and again ???
December 11th, 2007 at 7:58 pmProviding Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism
That’s what the letters in Patriot Act stand for.
The spirit of this law is embodied in the title phrase represented by this Acronym.
If one actually reads the Patriot Act, one will quickly see that there are provisions in the Patriot Act that provide for criminal prosecution of persons who destroy evidence in a government investigation into terrorism.
I believe it is vitally important for those with the power and standing to begin prosecutions of those responsible for the destruction of CIA tapes that document the confessions and information recieved during the CIA and US Military interrogations of high level terrorism suspects.
Any person that colludes with others to destroy evidence in a government led terrorist investigations has committed a FELONY VIOLATION of the USA Patritot Act.
Read the Patriot Act and you will find the provisons for these prosecutions. Any person in a position to prosecute individuals who destroy evidence in a terrorist proceeding and then through willful inaction allows these felony crimes to go unprosecuted is guilty of a type of collusion which gives birth to the legal strategy of Misaprion of Felony.
MISAPRION of FELONY is a type of conspiracy.
The USA Patriot Act must be used to prosecute those involved in the destruction of the CIA tapes that documented the interrogation of high level terrorist suspects.
Prosecute with the Patriot Act, feel the incredible power of this law flow into your hands, feel the freedom.
The first lawyer to publish a prosecutorial stance on this issue using the USA Patriot Act will certainly go down in history.
December 26th, 2007 at 10:29 pm