The down side of doing the right thing is that in doing the right thing he opened the door for one more neocon operative to take his place.

http://digg.com/politics/CIA_Spy_Calls_Waterboarding_Necessary_But_Torture_2

Digg it
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“Though the mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceedingly small
Though with patience He stands waiting, with exactness grinds He all.”

W, your time is nigh.

From the few “comments” I’ve read by JP, I don’t see how you can characterize him/her as “Independent.”

Sadly, our government has found individuals quite willing to torture, and quite willing to use statements made under torture as evidence to be used against either the victim of torture or others.

Such evidence is classified, meaning the accused cannot see it, nor question how it was obtained. Yet the accused can be sentenced to death based upon it.

Meanwhile, those who commit torture in the United States are insulated from both criminal prosecution and civil liability for their actions.

And, by posting on a liberal blog comments which criticize the government, we too could be labled “enemy combatants” and subjected to the same treatment afforded those at Guantanamo. The mechanisms to do that are in place. All that is needed is another “terrorist attack.”

Comment by Nevar — December 10, 2007 @ 7:17 pm

no, i guess all this hate filled name calling finally pushed an independent like her from our cause.

good luck jp and please give all of your money and support to the “huck” huckabee campaign for president!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/10/eveningnews/main3604018.shtml

(CBS) He is the man who ordered the destruction of video tapes documenting the CIA’s interrogation of two high-level al Qaeda operatives.

The then-head of the clandestine service, Jose Rodriguez, ordered the tapes destroyed shortly after a Washington Post expose focused attention on the CIA’s secret prisons, CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reports.

“Well, I think there might have been concern that those tapes could have been called for by some outside body and the CIA would no longer maintain control over them,” said retired CIA officer John Brennan, who is now a CBS News consultant.

Brennan says Rodriguez was also worried the Justice Department was backing away from its earlier support of harsh interrogation techniques, such as waterboarding.

“And that therefore agency officers who participated in those interrogation sessions may be subject to some type of prosecution,” Brennan said.

Rodriguiz ordered the tapes destroyed without telling then-CIA director Porter Goss and against the advice of the CIA’s own general counsel, the White House deputy counsel and the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee.

“I expressed concern about destroying any video tapes and said that would be a very ill-advised move by the agency,” Rep. Jane Harman, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said.

Former CIA officer John Kiriakou led the raid, which captured the al Qaeda operative Abu Zubaydah, told CBS News he and at least one other CIA officer refused to use the harsh interrogation techniques.

That job, he said, was turned over to retired commandos under contract to the CIA.

The last part is why I’m posting. I haven’t seen or heard anything else about this. Is BLACKWATER running torture camps for the United States Government?

Comment by hanshiro — December 10, 2007 @ 8:04 pm

America 2.0

I like that!

This has to be the one to take down this presidency.