Comments on: After Opposing Resolutions On Ramadan And Diwali, Rep. King Introduces Christmas Bill

By: KenOH

KenOH — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 02:46:25 +0000

So, when will one of these congressional reps introduce a bill recognizing us pastafarians? I feel so slighted. FSM rules.

By: Eserafina42

Eserafina42 — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:05:56 +0000

Where is the recognition of the importance of Greek/Roman (Republic, therefore pre-Christian) culture to our founding principles. If there was any culture that was influential, that was it. But OMG – those Greeks had same-sex relationships. Noooooooooooooooooooo!

By: Coffins Draped with a Flag

Coffins Draped with a Flag — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:47:57 +0000

Clemdog,
I should have written “intelligent”, not intellectual. Duh.

By: Coffins Draped with a Flag

Coffins Draped with a Flag — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:47:03 +0000

Clemdog – great post! It was insightful, intellectual and factual all of which is something the lemming trolls won’t understand.

By: Coffins Draped with a Flag

Coffins Draped with a Flag — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:44:15 +0000

O Bigfoot,

Don’t you get it? You have to believe in hell in order to go there.

By: Coffins Draped with a Flag

Coffins Draped with a Flag — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:42:11 +0000

And right wing Christianity doesn’t fit in with the founding principles. King’s version of White Christmas goes like this:
My favorite folks are white Christians
Who don’t give Democrats a break.
The God we believe in
Says, “Kill the heathen
And burn witches at the stake!”

By: Coffins Draped with a Flag

Coffins Draped with a Flag — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:39:49 +0000

How did this bill make it out of Committee and onto the floor for a vote? Just another Terry Schiavo fiasco.

By: RickS

RickS — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:35:34 +0000

thought America only has one religion, at least only one that counted.

Comment by RickS â€” December 11, 2007 @ 5:22 pm

Please explain as this doesnâ€™t seem to make any sense. These seems to indicate that the hatred of religious diversity lays at the feet of the intolerant not at the feet of political ideology

Comment by dbadass

I was actually questioning why Bigfoot on the one hand says that Christianity is the only religion that counts, but then says that “radical liberalism” hates America’s traditional religions (plural).

So is he saying that there are religions just as important as Christianity in this country?

That was the gist of my comment.

By: Clemdog

Clemdog — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:07:19 +0000

Fundamentalist believers today claim that the United States is a Christian Nation. This assertion is counterfeit and false! In fact, most of the early Constitutional forefathers not only vehemently opposed much of traditional Christian doctrine, but installed safeguards so that Christianity could not be adopted as the National Religion. Why? Because this Nation was brought into being in its Constitutional form in order to become a Spiritual Nation — and the two are not the same. A spiritual religion is one where man communes directly with God — there can be no manmade doctrines of belief — and this was the foundation of what our Diest forefathers called Natural Religion.
While it is true that traditional Christianity is an important part of the equation because it is imbued with the elevated concepts of TheWay and the teachings of Yeshua/Jesus, present-day Christianities self-imposed spiritual limitations in the form of the adoption of the doctrines of Pagan Rome, in conjunction with the very limited doctrines of Martin Luther and the framers of the Protestant Reformation, has relegated Christianity to an entry-level religion that teaches people to live in accordance with the simple faith while obstructing the solid food of the Gospel which is the Higher Mysteries of God. Thus, while Christianity poses an obstacle to the true spirituality envisioned by our Constitutional forefathers, it does serve the needs of the common people in preparing them for the Higher Spiritual Revelations that can only be learned from man’s Indwelling Source of True Knowledge.

By: candide

candide — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:49:38 +0000

We now are able to see the divisive effects of Republican failure to clearly honor the tradition of separation of church and state in America. Huckabee is questioning whether Mormons think Jesus and Satan were brothers. These fools are demanding that the congress stamp its imprimatur on Christianity. Romney says he wouldn’t think Moslems could be part of his cabinet. Ordained ministers and “bishops” are running for the highest office of the land, and the president claims to have intimate conversations with God Himself.

This is actually an opportunity for the Democrats. They should call attention to the divisiveness of this internecine struggle and illustrate how the clear separation of church and state is to the benefit of all of America’s citizens. By framing it as a tradition capable of uniting the people rather than dividing them, they might have some success in winning over the devout to a more secularized government…then again, a lot of these right wingnuts have their heads up their butts, so I may be wrong.

By: upright left

upright left — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:15:38 +0000

The United States is a primarily Christian Nation, always has been, and hopefully, always will be.

Comment by O. Bigfoot â€” December 11, 2007 @ 2:25 pm

Wrong.

Read this:
â€œCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religionâ€
- Our US Constitution

And then read it again, and again, and agin until you understand it.
Comment by DigDug â€” December 11, 2007 @ 2:50 pm

Saying that the U.S. is primarily a Christian nation is not a reference to a govt religion. It’s a statement of fact about the religion claimed by a majority of the people. ;)

By: upright left

upright left — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:09:13 +0000

Did TP post a similar negative article when there were similar resolutions regarding Ramadan And Diwali, or is TP only commenting in a negative way because this resultion happens to be about Christmas?

Comment by cold_hard_left â€” December 11, 2007 @ 2:21 pm

Itâ€™s because itâ€™s about hypocrisy, fool.

Comment by gummitch â€” December 11, 2007 @ 2:27 pm

It’s hypocrisy to expect the dominant religion in the nation to get at least the same recognition as the less common?

By: upright left

upright left — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:04:03 +0000

(lilâ€™ olâ€™ c_h_l just works SOOOO hard trying to conjure up those â€œgotchaâ€ moments, doesnâ€™t he? i, for one, think itâ€™s cute as can be)

Comment by tombaker â€” December 11, 2007 @ 2:24 pm

You did, however, fail to address the question of whether there was a similar post from TP when the resolutions were passed supporting Ramadan and Diwali. ;)

By: upright left

upright left — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:52:58 +0000

c_h_l – maybe you should have a chat with PatrioticLiberalChristian about how mean we are to Christians, before shooting your fool mouth off yet again.

Comment by tombaker â€” December 11, 2007 @ 2:23 pm

It’s easy enough to accept the Christianity of those who feel no need to defend it. Respect for PLC’s religion is evident in such posts as:

Good one. Be sure to get a good bulletproof vest, you know how them â€œchristiansâ€ like to shoot abortion doctors and other assorted athiests
Comment by Wayne â€” December 10, 2007 @ 3:33 pm

Perhaps the U.S. will need Jesus to survive,
if you pronounce it Hay-Zeus.
Comment by Saint Augustine â€” December 10, 2007 @ 3:43 pm

MiniTron, it doesnâ€™t matter what the other planks of his platform are, his sad devotion to fundi xianism renders takes precedence over his other views. His anti-science bias renders him a non-electable candidate.
Comment by RUCerious â€” December 10, 2007 @ 3:51 pm

I can feel the love for your fellow lib. It’s like the “Uncle Tom” of the lib/religion kind. ;)

By: abarts

abarts — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:51:55 +0000

I find it deeply disturbing the Congress is talking about religion. This cannot be a good sign of things to come.

By: tombaker

tombaker — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:54:04 +0000

“Rad-Lib Com-Symps are trying to dilute our precious essence, Mandrake!! That’s why we must act now!! before our precious bodily essences are too weak to see it through!!!!

By: DigDug

DigDug — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:41:26 +0000

â€œWhy is every article TP posts about Christianity anti-Christian? every article TP posts about Judaism anti-Jew? and every article TP posts about Muslims pro-Islam? Pure hypocrisy.

Comment by cold_hard_left â€” December 11, 2007 @ 2:53 pmâ€

I can answer that. Itâ€™s because one of the tenets of radical liberalism is the hatred of Americaâ€™s traditional religions and those who practice those religions.

Comment by O. Bigfoot

missmolly already de-bunked this very thoroughly in post #69. Read the thread before you post.

By: DigDug

DigDug — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:37:29 +0000

â€œBoth Hinduism, and Islam, are incompatible at their very core with the United Statesâ€™ basic governing principles. -Big (O)

Would Jesus do empire?

Comment by Xisithrus â€” December 11, 2007 @ 2:33 pmâ€

Perhaps, but I feel he would most likely do Kingdom.

Comment by O. Bigfoot

That doesn’t sound like democracy.

You do realize that a kingdon is a monarchy right?

By: dbadass

dbadass — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:37:11 +0000

thought America only has one religion, at least only one that counted.

Comment by RickS â€” December 11, 2007 @ 5:22 pm

Please explain as this doesn’t seem to make any sense. These seems to indicate that the hatred of religious diversity lays at the feet of the intolerant not at the feet of political ideology

By: RickS

RickS — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:22:34 +0000

“I can answer that. Itâ€™s because one of the tenets of radical liberalism is the hatred of Americaâ€™s traditional religions and those who practice those religions.”

I thought America only has one religion, at least only one that counted.