Comments on: Majority of public believes U.S. is in a recession. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:16:24 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Jeremy in Denver http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4189637 Jeremy in Denver Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:23:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4189637 *to ClintonWasImpeachedAndDisbrred* Ahem, would you like fries with that? :p *yawn* Not going to bother with the 3270834209732th time of saying 'jobs available today are shit jobs that don't pay enough to live on'. They didn't get it the other 3270834209731 times.... *to ClintonWasImpeachedAndDisbrred*

Ahem, would you like fries with that? :p

*yawn* Not going to bother with the 3270834209732th time of saying ‘jobs available today are shit jobs that don’t pay enough to live on’. They didn’t get it the other 3270834209731 times….

]]> By: ClintonWasImpeachedAndDisbarred http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4188290 ClintonWasImpeachedAndDisbarred Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:24:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4188290 Clearly there is no recession, as there would need to be nine months of economic decline to qualify as a recession. Regardless of the silly naysayers, the economy is doing very well. The tax cuts had a nice lasting effect and unemployment is at historic lows. Essentially if you don't have a job its because you don't want one. Clearly there is no recession, as there would need to be nine months of economic decline to qualify as a recession.

Regardless of the silly naysayers, the economy is doing very well. The tax cuts had a nice lasting effect and unemployment is at historic lows. Essentially if you don’t have a job its because you don’t want one.

]]> By: bernard quatermass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187508 bernard quatermass Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:07:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187508 "That a majority of Americans are not quite brilliant?" If we can cite you as a representative, there'd be a whale of a lot more to say on that subject. “That a majority of Americans are not quite brilliant?”

If we can cite you as a representative, there’d be a whale of a lot more to say on that subject.

]]> By: Menehune http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187441 Menehune Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:23:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187441 If you all remember the last Bush recession, they never fessed up that we were even in one until they announced that "well, yes, we were in a recession after all, but now we've emerged from it. Look for the same thing here--they put out the rosy "estimated" numbers on the front page of the Biz section and all over CNBC and CNN and then quietly revise them later downward on the lower corner of page 8 of the WSJ business section. Watch for it--it is happening again. Whether we are actually in one yet is semantics--there have to be consecutive quarters of negative growth--but we will not escape one this time. Our last recovery was fueled by the housing boom and people's rising sense of personal wealth as house prices went through the roof. There is nothing to fuel the next recovery--unless (are you listening Capt. Mantastic?) there is a next big boom fueled by the need to switch to a green economy. We need that boom to originate in America, since we are in debt up to our gills. People have taken all the equity out of their homes to buy shit. They have run up their credit cards to buy more. We could be in for some protracted pain if our hidebound leaders think they can keep our country going on smoke and mirrors. If you all remember the last Bush recession, they never fessed up that we were even in one until they announced that “well, yes, we were in a recession after all, but now we’ve emerged from it. Look for the same thing here–they put out the rosy “estimated” numbers on the front page of the Biz section and all over CNBC and CNN and then quietly revise them later downward on the lower corner of page 8 of the WSJ business section. Watch for it–it is happening again. Whether we are actually in one yet is semantics–there have to be consecutive quarters of negative growth–but we will not escape one this time. Our last recovery was fueled by the housing boom and people’s rising sense of personal wealth as house prices went through the roof. There is nothing to fuel the next recovery–unless (are you listening Capt. Mantastic?) there is a next big boom fueled by the need to switch to a green economy. We need that boom to originate in America, since we are in debt up to our gills. People have taken all the equity out of their homes to buy shit. They have run up their credit cards to buy more. We could be in for some protracted pain if our hidebound leaders think they can keep our country going on smoke and mirrors.

]]> By: joe cantwell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187430 joe cantwell Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:34:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187430 Comment by DreamCrusher — December 12, 2007 @ 3:31 am <strong>"huck" huckabee: </strong> <strong>"don't mormons believe that jesus and the devil are brothers?" </strong> dc, as a satan worshipper, can you tell us what your thoughts on this are? <em>yes, no... maybe</em>? Comment by DreamCrusher — December 12, 2007 @ 3:31 am

“huck” huckabee:

“don’t mormons believe that jesus and the devil are brothers?”

dc, as a satan worshipper, can you tell us what your thoughts on this are? yes, no… maybe?

]]> By: joe cantwell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187428 joe cantwell Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:28:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187428 90% of the US public believes in God, as well, so what’s your point here, Think Progress? That a majority of Americans are not quite brilliant? Comment by DreamCrusher — December 12, 2007 @ 3:31 am dc, according to bill o'reilly you are a devil worshipper. <strong>"If you read these far-left websites, you’re a devil worshipper. You are.”</strong> - bill o’reilly, fox news “the o’reilly factor”, 12/07/07 eh? 90% of the US public believes in God, as well, so what’s your point here, Think Progress? That a majority of Americans are not quite brilliant?

Comment by DreamCrusher — December 12, 2007 @ 3:31 am

dc, according to bill o’reilly you are a devil worshipper.

“If you read these far-left websites, you’re a devil worshipper. You are.”
- bill o’reilly, fox news “the o’reilly factor”, 12/07/07

eh?

]]> By: Juan C. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187411 Juan C. Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:14:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187411 <em>The GDP, largely a function of corporate profit, is about as relevant to the economic state of affairs for the average citizen as the weather on Mars is to climate change on Earth. Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper</em> This whole post is priceless. The GDP, largely a function of corporate profit, is about as relevant to the economic state of affairs for the average citizen as the weather on Mars is to climate change on Earth.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper

This whole post is priceless.

]]> By: joe cantwell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187392 joe cantwell Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:20:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187392 “When people who are honestly mistaken learn the truth, they will either cease being mistaken, or cease being honest” - Anonymous Comment by tombaker — December 12, 2007 @ 12:12 am a riddle the trolls will never solve... “When people who are honestly mistaken learn the truth, they will either cease being mistaken, or cease being honest” – Anonymous

Comment by tombaker — December 12, 2007 @ 12:12 am

a riddle the trolls will never solve…

]]> By: tombaker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187390 tombaker Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:12:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187390 "When people who are honestly mistaken learn the truth, they will either cease being mistaken, or cease being honest" - Anonymous “When people who are honestly mistaken learn the truth, they will either cease being mistaken, or cease being honest” – Anonymous

]]> By: joe cantwell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187373 joe cantwell Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:28:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187373 Comment by muckdog — December 11, 2007 @ 10:22 pm <strong>it all changes in 2008.</strong> (<em>please don't blow up any daycare centers, ok? just learn to be good losers</em>.) Comment by muckdog — December 11, 2007 @ 10:22 pm

it all changes in 2008.

(please don’t blow up any daycare centers, ok? just learn to be good losers.)

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187371 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:24:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187371 Captain Mantastic: "Rudd in Australian has begun to backtrack for that very reason." Hey stupid: Rudd is pulling out of Iraq and signing the Kyoto Treaty. Dream on dummy. He's there because Howard was Bush's best friend and the Australians just can't stand Bush. If you knew anybody in Austrailia, you'd know that 9 out of 10 people you talk to there hate Bush's guts. Captain Mantastic: “Rudd in Australian has begun to backtrack for that very reason.”

Hey stupid: Rudd is pulling out of Iraq and signing the Kyoto Treaty. Dream on dummy. He’s there because Howard was Bush’s best friend and the Australians just can’t stand Bush. If you knew anybody in Austrailia, you’d know that 9 out of 10 people you talk to there hate Bush’s guts.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187369 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:21:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187369 muckdog: "Have you noticed how the Dems haven’t been talking about Iraq? Oh, we’re winning and the surge is working. On to the next topic…" Sure, a-hole, let's talk about Iraq. The "surge" is not working because the effectiveness of the "surge" was supposed to have been measured by political progress in Iraq. That was the reason Bush gave us for the surge. Just because he's pulled another bait and switch, don't expect thinking people to fall for it. Of course, you're sitting there in your sociopathic trance congratulating yourself over all of this while over 850 of our soldiers have been killed this year and thousands have been wounded - FOR WHAT? So that the Iraqis could reach political compromise and a functioning government. That hasn't happened yet, so despite what the corporate media tells you, the "surge" hasn't worked you ignorant tool. muckdog: “Have you noticed how the Dems haven’t been talking about Iraq? Oh, we’re winning and the surge is working. On to the next topic…”

Sure, a-hole, let’s talk about Iraq. The “surge” is not working because the effectiveness of the “surge” was supposed to have been measured by political progress in Iraq. That was the reason Bush gave us for the surge. Just because he’s pulled another bait and switch, don’t expect thinking people to fall for it. Of course, you’re sitting there in your sociopathic trance congratulating yourself over all of this while over 850 of our soldiers have been killed this year and thousands have been wounded – FOR WHAT? So that the Iraqis could reach political compromise and a functioning government. That hasn’t happened yet, so despite what the corporate media tells you, the “surge” hasn’t worked you ignorant tool.

]]> By: joe cantwell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187367 joe cantwell Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:20:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187367 Rudd in Australian has begun to backtrack for that very reason. http://au.news.yahoo.com/071203/2/p/155bi.html Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 11, 2007 @ 5:51 pm rudd, who'd he beat in the recent election? he was a good friend of bush's (didn't help though)... what was his name again?... good strong conservative, really loved bush (it just didn't help him, wonder why?)... just can't remember his name. oh well he was a conservative, so what difference does it make? eh? Rudd in Australian has begun to backtrack for that very reason.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/071203/2/p/155bi.html

Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 11, 2007 @ 5:51 pm

rudd, who’d he beat in the recent election? he was a good friend of bush’s (didn’t help though)… what was his name again?… good strong conservative, really loved bush (it just didn’t help him, wonder why?)… just can’t remember his name. oh well he was a conservative, so what difference does it make?

eh?

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187364 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:16:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187364 It always cracks me up when conservatives talk up the GDP as if they know what they're talking about. The GDP, largely a function of corporate profit, is about as relevant to the economic state of affairs for the average citizen as the weather on Mars is to climate change on Earth. Here's a thought you stupid corporate tools: if poverty is on the rise, if consumer spending is down, if consumer confidence is down, if capital expenditure projections are down, AND the GDP DOESN'T show us in a recession, maybe we're measuring the issue incorrectly. Maybe, just maybe, we're measuring it in a way which is helpful to large corporations and their message, but not helpful to the average citizen. It always cracks me up when conservatives talk up the GDP as if they know what they’re talking about. The GDP, largely a function of corporate profit, is about as relevant to the economic state of affairs for the average citizen as the weather on Mars is to climate change on Earth. Here’s a thought you stupid corporate tools: if poverty is on the rise, if consumer spending is down, if consumer confidence is down, if capital expenditure projections are down, AND the GDP DOESN’T show us in a recession, maybe we’re measuring the issue incorrectly. Maybe, just maybe, we’re measuring it in a way which is helpful to large corporations and their message, but not helpful to the average citizen.

]]> By: joe cantwell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187362 joe cantwell Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:13:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187362 This means our party, the Democrats will win! Comment by Megatron — December 11, 2007 @ 10:47 pm yes it does. This means our party, the Democrats will win!

Comment by Megatron — December 11, 2007 @ 10:47 pm

yes it does.

]]> By: joe cantwell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187361 joe cantwell Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:13:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187361 Ah, the old trick of a lib network brainwashing people into thinking the economy is in the tank (IT ISN’T!) and that we are in a recession (WE AREN’T) and then, after days or weeks of this drilling into people’s brains, taking a poll which is almost guaranteed to give the results the libs want!! Comment by John Kerry — December 11, 2007 @ 10:39 pm but <em>jk</em> you aren't fooled, are you? Ah, the old trick of a lib network brainwashing people into thinking the economy is in the tank (IT ISN’T!) and that we are in a recession (WE AREN’T) and then, after days or weeks of this drilling into people’s brains, taking a poll which is almost guaranteed to give the results the libs want!!

Comment by John Kerry — December 11, 2007 @ 10:39 pm

but jk you aren’t fooled, are you?

]]> By: Krazny http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187354 Krazny Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:58:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187354 People feel the economy is bad, because they are having to spend more for basic needs like food, and utilities. As long as average americans feel their paychecks will adequately cover their expenses, with a little left over for fun, they will be happy. However the trillions on Iraq, coupled with the collapse of the sub-prime market, and the recent roller coaster ride of the stock market, aren't helping. Are we in a recession? No I don't think so, could we be in a recession? Yes, the instability caused by Bush and his cronies, has filtered down onto the American public. Ever ask yourself why the Canadian dollar is worth more then US currency? People feel the economy is bad, because they are having to spend more for basic needs like food, and utilities. As long as average americans feel their paychecks will adequately cover their expenses, with a little left over for fun, they will be happy. However the trillions on Iraq, coupled with the collapse of the sub-prime market, and the recent roller coaster ride of the stock market, aren’t helping. Are we in a recession? No I don’t think so, could we be in a recession? Yes, the instability caused by Bush and his cronies, has filtered down onto the American public. Ever ask yourself why the Canadian dollar is worth more then US currency?

]]> By: tombaker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187347 tombaker Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:40:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187347 thanks John Gibson, or whoever this clown is here to repeat. thanks John Gibson, or whoever this clown is here to repeat.

]]> By: muckdog http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187336 muckdog Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:22:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187336 Have you noticed how the Dems haven't been talking about Iraq? Oh, we're winning and the surge is working. On to the next topic... Hey, foreclosures are up. Trash talk the economy! But we're not in a recession. We'd have to have 2 consecutive quarters of negative GDP, and we don't even have 1 yet. Last GDP was zooming. Most economists are predicting a 1.5-2.5% GDP for the next quarter or two. Not even close to a recession. So later 2008? Unlikely. 2009? Maybe. Have you noticed how the Dems haven’t been talking about Iraq? Oh, we’re winning and the surge is working. On to the next topic…

Hey, foreclosures are up. Trash talk the economy!

But we’re not in a recession. We’d have to have 2 consecutive quarters of negative GDP, and we don’t even have 1 yet. Last GDP was zooming. Most economists are predicting a 1.5-2.5% GDP for the next quarter or two. Not even close to a recession. So later 2008? Unlikely. 2009? Maybe.

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/comment-page-2/#comment-4187256 Lefty Patriot Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:57:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/11/majority-of-public-believes-us-is-in-a-recession/#comment-4187256 Captainmanhadler lost any cred he might have imagined he had with the ridiculous question about the economy vs. planetary survival. He's a full-fledged koolaid chugger, when he can get Bush's teeny little cock out of his mouth. Captainmanhadler lost any cred he might have imagined he had with the ridiculous question about the economy vs. planetary survival. He’s a full-fledged koolaid chugger, when he can get Bush’s teeny little cock out of his mouth.

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