Let me clarify myself a little though. I sincerely don’t think CCW is for everyone…especially Rambo types! I’m a former Wayne County corrections officer with a few Detroit cops in the family. (The CO job was an easy one to quit.) I’m very familar with firearms but also too familiar with the criminal element. As you know, there are some very disturbed individuals out there with no regards for life when it comes to their perceived needs. The idea of someone wanting personal protection against such is no problem with me. Mace and/or stun guns are probably sufficient for most personal protection situations. However, nothing is more effective than a firearm for those whom can handle the responsibility.

My handle is actually quite fitting. Mycology is a passion and I’ve owned/operated a small mushroom farm, which included producing my own spawn. Seeing that you know what mycelium is you might understand the relevance to the handle. I like to stay underground digesting what is available with only the occasional post.

Have a great rest of the day.

Wait until you see the size of the woofers they put in his limo.

“Come get money with me,
if you curious to see
how it feels to be with a P-I-M-P”

Perhaps. But yelling “bang” if I had to use it would have been silly don’t ya think?

BTW- If I was a troll here I’d be more concerned about my handle.

Have I ever had to defend myself? Several times! Best example…attempted car-jack on 8-mile thwarted by simply showing a revolver.

And, shroomer guy, my poll is asking for first-hand experiences. Too many hypotheticals is how we end up in a gun mess in the first place.

[for the record, i am NOT anti-gun ownership]

Good point(s). W let the assault weapons ban expire and this includes magazine capacity limits for handguns. Strange…Poppy bush is the one who pushed for these bans in the first place. Fear of the NRA is to blame.

I also fully agree with you that CCW would have had little if any effect on the current shootings.

Personally, I have no problem with it, after reading about the stringent requirements you have to meet just to have your application accepted (it actually requires you to have a legitimate reason for carrying a concealed weapon).

So even with this law, a mentally disturbed teenager took what the police said was an AK-47 and opened fire, sending 30 rounds downrange.

I fired an AK-47 when I was in the Army, and I know that you can empty its 30 round magazine in almost 10 seconds. Anyone who had a concealed weapon would have to first observe this kid take the weapon out from under his coat, free their hands if they were holding something, then draw their own weapon, take a bead on him, and shoot, accurately.

My one question is: Why did he have access to a weapon that was originally designed to assault objectives? What reason does a civilian need a 30 round magazine, or the 18 round magazine of a Glock, for that matter?

I’ve been lurking here since before Ryan Neat used to spank MA all over this forum if anyone else remembers that. And I’m about as progressive as you can get. Don’t confuse “progressive” with “liberal” although this site has become somewhat liberal.

I am, however, a very strong union supporter and could point out MANY instances where the government has worked to undermine union efforts. Don’t speak of something you know absolutely nothing about concerning unions. (IMO, the democrats turned their backs on unions long ago…NAFTA for instance.) The only reason I consider myself a democrat is that I’m damn sure not a republican. (More an independent.) BTW, the current admin aren’t republicans either…they’re NEO-CONS. Check out the PNAC website if you’re not familiar with it.

Why are you all assuming that Shaldag is the “soldier of fortune” type whom spanks his monkey while “playing” with his firearms? Those types are in the minority by far. That’s kinda like believing that anyone who attends church services is a religious nut-job.

CCW? Depends on where you live IMO. I’m a Detroit native whom could tell stories all day about where CCW would have saved innocent lives. A few quick examples. A former neighbor was robbed then killed after his car broke down in a very high crime area. Best example…a high school friend is still in a “mental institution” after being forced to watch his wife being raped by a gang of thugs. She died as a result. (On Belle-Isle after the annual Detroit fireworks show in 89′ for those familiar with the area.) I’m betting that most of you anti’s live in lily white areas where these type of crimes rarely if ever occur.

I live in very “safe” rural Wisconsin now and would still CCW if I could. Violent crime is rare but it still occasionally happens. Wisconsin is one of the few states where CCW is not permitted.

tombaker- just because you have been fortunate is irrelevant. Talk to any victim of a violent crime. BTW, you’ve probably been left alone because of assumption that you are armed.

Quick poll – who here has ever been in a “self-defense” situation in real life.

I’ll start – I’m 41 years old, and have lived in urban neighborhoods few white people would so much as drive through, and spent a lot of time at nightclubs, bars, etc., and I’ve never so much as had to raise my voice in my own defense. Nary a burglar, a mugger, nor a random violent nut has ever crossed my path.

Do those people who have guns by the bed “just in case” also have a suitcase packed so they can fly to the Bahamas when they hit the lottery?

Do you have a “lightning strike kit” at the ready??

Do you (single guys only) keep 3 pillows on your bed, in case 2 women decide to go home with you??

I think someone has grossly overestimated the power of Ms Goldberg’s words. If this clown was correct, we’d have had legal weed 15 years ago.

I think this morning he found the inflatable doll out of air.

Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 11, 2007 @ 11:21 am

I’ve seen Hendler post some amazingly idiotic things here in the past, but this takes the cake. This is just sheer lunacy.

Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 11, 2007 @ 11:21 am

Do you ever get embarrassed from showing the dark depths of your stupidity for the world to see?

How about them “Urban Heat Islands”, Jason?

This fundie nutcase was a homeschooled Xian brat who went batshit crazy after being rejected by his homies…
READ, Jason, READ!!!!

as so on, and can see how they are fueled by those posting on supposedly “liberal” bloggers.

Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 11, 2007 @ 11:07 am

Since I have never seen posts on TP urging women to kill their children or molest their students, and I haven’t seen anybody here advocate going into churches or synagogues and staging shoot-em-ups, I assume you are implying that nutcases are somehow being driven by TP to commit insane acts of violence in some more indirect way.

This reminds me of Newt Gingrich pontificating about the Susan Smith case in South Carolina (for those of you who don’t remember, Smith was the mother who drowned her two little boys and blamed their disappearance on a carjacking by a black man). Using the case as a campaign point, Gingrich said in 1994, “I think that the mother killing the two children in South Carolina vividly reminds every American how sick the society is getting and how much we need to change things…the only way you get change is to vote Republican.”

And then the day before Election Day, Gingrich defended his comments by saying that violence and related ills arise from a Democratic-controlled political system, and when he was asked if the change he was offering the country would stop killings like those in South Carolina, he replied, ”Yes. In my judgment, there’s no question.”

All predictable blather from a bloviating politician anxious to blame all society’s ills on the other party.

Was Gingrich right? Probably not. A bigger influence on Smith than the Democratic-controlled Congress was her stepfather, who had sexually molested her for years, causing her to attempt suicide at ages 13, 15, and 18. This stepfather was a prominent Republican in South Carolina, and the local leader of Pat Robertson’s Christian Coalition.

Don’t be like Gingrich, Jason. There are many reasons why people go off the deep end and commit acts of violence. It’s hard for me to believe that TP would be at the top of the list.