ACLU asks federal judge to hold CIA in contempt.
By on Dec 12th, 2007 at 11:57 am
ACLU asks federal judge to hold CIA in contempt.
The ACLU filed a petition with a federal judge today “charging that the [CIA] flouted a court order when it destroyed at least two videotapes documenting the harsh interrogation of prisoners in its custody.” In October 2003 and May 2004, the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York had ordered the CIA to preserve “all records pertaining to the treatment of detainees in its custody.”
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Seems pretty clear-cut to me…
Here’s a question for the Trolls-of-the-Day: How could the CIA/Bushco argue that those tapes were not “records pertaining to the treatment of detainees in its custodyâ€?
December 12th, 2007 at 12:01 pmThings like this don’t work out so well when the Bushies have managed to corrupt the justice system as well as every other part of government.
I’m not going to hold my breath.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:02 pmACLU is a terrorst group. They all live with their parents and hold GEDs and degrees public schools. They are not the 21st centry.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:02 pmThe trolls are getting started early today. A lot of bad news for the Bush criminal gang is coming out, so I am not surprised that a troll frenzy is starting up. They have been dispatched to disrupt and derail discussion of the many crimes and human rights violations committed by the Bush administration. But obviously the trolls have nothing at all to go on, judging from their bizarre and ludicrous comments. The troll factory had to release them early today before they could be trained in the new talking points, which wouldn’t amount to much, anyway.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:07 pmYeah, whatever he said.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:08 pmACLU is a terrorst group. They all live with their parents and hold GEDs and degrees public schools. They are not the 21st centry.
Comment by JD Murphy — December 12, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
So is the ACLU a terrorist group because they live with their families. Seems like thay would be exhibiting “family values” or are people who are you suggesting people who live with their families are some how terrorists?
Also, how is it possible for a practicing attorney to only have a GED?
December 12th, 2007 at 12:09 pmAwesome!! – Can’t wait to see Righties trashing the ACLU all day long.
Don’t worry, Righties, they will still supply you with a good lawyer when the time comes. Fact is, ACLU is the only power on Earth that could or would defend you from most of us, who would happily see you jailed for sedition.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:11 pmComment by dim wit — December 12, 2007 @ 12:09 pm
Say what ?
December 12th, 2007 at 12:12 pmACLU asks judges to do everything.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:13 pmiggy the j-d.
he’s just here as part of the college republicans media blitz. (the ann coulter chapter, out of pepperdine)
December 12th, 2007 at 12:13 pmhe’s hoping to add these posts to his “c.v.” so he can get a fellowship at U of Chicago, to get close to Strauss.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:15 pmbush is a quitter. he quit on the miliatary, he quit on all his parents’ friends who funded his bankruptcies, he quit on his drinking, then quit on his sobriety, he quit on the constitution, he quit on the soliders he sent to die in Iraq and afhgansitan, he quit on america.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:17 pmhe’s hoping to add these posts to his “c.v.†so he can get a fellowship at U of Chicago, to get close to Strauss.
Comment by tombaker — December 12, 2007 @ 12:15 pm
Well, JD certainly has the Straussian lying down, and is working very hard on the straussian treason; he’s close, too.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:17 pmBUT – he never really quit cheerleading – his one true calling.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:18 pmACLU asks judges to do everything.
Comment by JD Murphy — December 12, 2007 @ 12:13 pm
Don’t all lawsuits/trials ask the court to rule upon something?
December 12th, 2007 at 12:23 pmI’m surprised JD could spell ACLU. Maybe he learned at the YMCA where he lives. It’s no wonder he supports W as president.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:24 pmwhy do bushies hate the aclu?
is it the
American?
or the
Civil Liberties?
or the
Union?
hmmm……
December 12th, 2007 at 12:24 pmThe “Odd” thing about the ACLU is they support The Constitution of the US. I fail to see how they can be criticized for something so basic as to applying the law equally to all.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:26 pmmy dad just bought me a new mustang, somethin yall dont have.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:27 pmNO doubt about it, folks; JD Murphy is a liberal pretending to be a troll.
JD, you don’t have to convince us that trolls are stupid. We’re all in on the joke.
Nice work, though. Good performance.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:30 pmComment by JD Murphy — December 12, 2007 @ 12:27 pm
sorry, my mistake.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:32 pmHAYDEN, BUSH, NEGROPONTE AND CHENNEY SHOULD BE HANDCUFFED AND TAKEN TO AN INTERNATIONAL COURT FOR WAR CRIMES! HAGE 09! WATERBOARD CHENNEY AND RICE!
December 12th, 2007 at 12:34 pm19 – well well, don’t we all just feel SO inadequate right now?
wtf are u here for, boy?
December 12th, 2007 at 12:35 pmThe trolls are getting started early today. A lot of bad news for the Bush criminal gang is coming out, so I am not surprised that a troll frenzy is starting up.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:37 pmComment by VerbalKint
I AGREE!!!!! THEY ARE SOUNDING DESPERATE! BUSH &Co. HAGE 09!
my dad just bought me a new mustang, somethin yall dont have.
Comment by JD Murphy — December 12, 2007 @ 12:27 pm
WOW!!!!! YOU MUST HAVE SUCH A LITTLE DICK!
December 12th, 2007 at 12:38 pmThe new and improved DOJ ???
MuKasey..”I think the Justice Department is capable of doing whatever it appears needs to be done,” Mukasey said. “The question of a special prosecutor is the most hypothetical of hypotheticals, and that isn’t going to be faced until it happens. And if it has to be, it will be.”
Mukasey may have a conflict of interest problem already, and may have to call upon a Special Prosecutor.
Jose Padilla’s lawyers argued before the Florida Federal Court that Abu Zubaydah was tortured into saying Padilla was an al Qaeda associate. The DOJ dismissed Padilla’s allegations as “meritless,†asserting Padilla’s legal team could not prove that Abu Zubaydah had been tortured. Well, it’s clear now that they certainly COULD have, if the tapes of the interrogations of Abu Zubaydah had been made available!
Now here is where Mukasey’s role comes into question. U.S. District Judge Mukasey, now attorney general, was the one who signed the warrant used by the FBI to arrest Padilla in May 2002. Court records show the warrant relied in part on information obtained from Abu Zubaydah’s interrogation. So we have a problem Houston.
The Attorney General can only issue a warrant based upon legally obtained evidence, and confessions under torture are certainly not “legally obtainedâ€. So either Mukasey was misrepresented the evidence, and would be liable to be potentially a party in those who were presented with “perjured evidenceâ€; or he knew that torture was used in obtaining the confession and ignored it.
In either case he is unsuitable to run an investigation, as it will, inevitably, involved himself. Thus a Special Prosecutor is necessary.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:40 pmComment by tombaker — December 12, 2007 @ 12:35 pm
Are you challenging me? want to meet somewhere?
December 12th, 2007 at 12:41 pmComment by sacopenapa — December 12, 2007 @ 12:38 pm
having that mustang sacocrap makes it easy for me to take up the easy girls.
Bet you couldt do that
December 12th, 2007 at 12:42 pmACLU is a terrorst group. They all live with their parents and hold GEDs and degrees public schools. They are not the 21st centry.
Comment by JD Murphy — December 12, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
Normally I ignore this type of post as just a faint buzzing sound from a troll attempting to say something inflammatory to derail the thread. But this blather is so over the top (and it’s been a slow morning), so I’ll respond.
“ACLU is a terrorst (sic) group.”
– And you are basing this accusation on…what? Who or what have they bombed recently — no, make that EVER? Has the term “terrorist” joined “Communist” and “liberal” on the list of words-that-used-to-have-meaning-but-are-now-just-randomly-hurled-as-insults?
“They all live with their parents…”
– It’s possible that some of the younger ones do. Many teens put aside their video games to get involved in causes they deem important to the world and to their future. The ACLU, like many non-profit organizations, benefit from young volunteers to help on telephones, mass mailings, etc. As far as the adults in the organization go, I’m not aware of any statistical information regarding their living status.
“…and hold GEDs and degrees public schools.”
– This clause makes no sense. I assume you are slamming people who have GEDs and/or have received a public school education. In the first place, many people in the ACLU (and ALL of their lawyers) are professionals with advanced degrees. In the second place, a public school education isn’t necessarily a bad thing. I received a public school education (and no college), yet I can construct a clause with proper grammar and spelling, which is more than you can do.
“They are not the 21st centry (sic).”
December 12th, 2007 at 12:46 pm– Au contraire. They are every bit as relevant in the 21st century as they were in the 20th. Protecting the civil rights of all Americans and defending the U.S. Constitution never goes out of style.
Comment by Mr JJ — December 12, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
December 12th, 2007 at 12:46 pmHOW REFRESHING IS TO HEAR ADULT COMENTRY! I AGREE WITH YOU!
JD Murphy , I WOULD LOVE TO “PLAY” WITH YOU, HOWEVER, THE LEVEL OF YOUR DISCOURSE IS FAR BELOW BUSHES CRIMINAL ACTS… “MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU!”
December 12th, 2007 at 12:48 pmPS. YOU NEED A MUSTANG TO GET TO THE GIRLS?????!!!!!!!!!
December 12th, 2007 at 12:50 pmMUST BE VERY VERY LITTLE INDEED!
December 12th, 2007 at 12:50 pmI have nothin to say to you sacocwapa
December 12th, 2007 at 1:08 pm27 – no – I’m asking you “wtf are you doing here?”
not that i expect a straight answer – certainly not from a phony troll-punk
so – wtf are you doing here?
December 12th, 2007 at 1:08 pmpunkass fratboy.
u in the same frat as trent lott’s kid or something, and this is your overprivileged punkass idea of entertainment, before you go out date-raping sorority girls tonight???
December 12th, 2007 at 1:10 pm“I do not need a Mustang – I’ve got a bag of roofies”
-JD punkass, fratboy.
December 12th, 2007 at 1:11 pmWow. I never thought I’d see a thread where Southern Man would actually RAISE the collective IQ of the troll contingent.
Oh, but I keep forgetting — JD Murphy isn’t a real troll. He’s a liberal pretending to be a troll.
Sorry, SM; you’re still bringing up the rear.
December 12th, 2007 at 1:23 pmDixieboy – the same ACLU that would defend you for flying the stars and bars over your illegal weapons cache.
Ain’t Freedom Grand?
December 12th, 2007 at 1:31 pm“Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the boisterous sea of liberty” – Thomas Jefferson
guess that makes you one of those “timid men” don’t it, Dixie??
December 12th, 2007 at 1:37 pmand no – one would have to be utterly daft to think that some neo-nazi anti-aclu blog is in any way shape or form “equal to” the aclu.
do you think we’re as dull-witted as you and you buddies??
December 12th, 2007 at 1:38 pmI have nothin to say to you sacocwapa
Comment by JD Murphy — December 12, 2007 @ 1:08 pm
THAT IS BECAUSE YOU LACK ON INTELECTUAL WEIGHT TO ARGUE AFTER YOUR “VERY CLEVER MUSTANG” COMENTARY.
December 12th, 2007 at 1:43 pmget rid of the entire bush crime cabal and this includes his very own, wholly owned DOJ and the CIA.
December 12th, 2007 at 1:49 pmgeez – Dixie’s even more timid than I thought.
another Righty cut-and-runner
December 12th, 2007 at 2:06 pmjd murpee’s mom is uglier than sen. byrd’s scrotum.
December 12th, 2007 at 2:14 pmre 39:
December 12th, 2007 at 2:17 pmyup, and the same ACLU that supported your drug-addled draftdodging hypocrite hero rush when the feds were trying to gain access to his medical records, and the same ACLE that fought to let you march in Skokie IL when you and your sheet wearing buddies wanted to goose-step through that jewish community.
ol’Dixie never came back – I musta skeered him, and now he’s out trying to relocate his stash of weapons before the Feds can get there.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:26 pm