FLASHBACK: Conservatives Tried To Kill The Senate ‘Minority’s Right To Filibuster’ Three Years Ago
FLASHBACK: Conservatives Tried To Kill The Senate ‘Minority’s Right To Filibuster’ Three Years Ago
In The New York Times this morning, reporter David M. Herszenhorn analyzes the “muscle flexing” by conservatives in Congress, who he says “effectively have a stranglehold on the Senate.” Herzehhorn notes that Senate conservatives are now “so accustomed to blocking measures” that they reflexively objected to an AMT patch they wanted, forcing them to scramble “to approve it later”:
In fact, the Senate Republicans are so accustomed to blocking measures that when the Democrats finally agreed last week to their demands on a bill to repair the alternative minimum tax, the Republicans still objected, briefly blocking the version of the bill that they wanted before scrambling to approve it later.
Herzehhorn goes on to explain that the conservatives believe they are “merely exercising the minority’s right to filibuster“:
The Republicans are not shy about their strategy, which they say is merely exercising the minority’s right to filibuster, which has existed since the earliest days of the Senate.
He does not mention, however, that just three years ago, many of the same conservatives (then in control of Congress) threatened to use the “nuclear option” to remove “the minority’s right to filibuster” judicial nominations.
Conservative Senate leaders who are now doing everything they can to obstruct critical legislation, were “not shy” three years ago about their willingness to do away with the filibuster:
Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS): “[Filibustering] is wrong. It’s not supportable under the Constitution. And if they insist on persisting with these filibusters, I’m perfectly prepared to blow the place up.”
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) spokesman: “Senator McConnell always has and continues to fully support the use of what has become known as the ‘[nuclear]‘ option in order to restore the norms and traditions of the Senate.”
Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX): “I support the [nuclear] option, I support a rule change, I support elimination of the unconstitutional filibuster by any legal means.”
Just because conservatives aren’t “shy” about their obstructionism doesn’t mean they’re not hypocrites.
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They are DEFINITELY hypocrites.
Witness SCUMBAGS like David Vitter and Dan Burton and Newt Gingrich and Tom Delay calling Bill Clinton a "scumbag".
DEFINITELY HYPOCRITES, yup...
Sincerely,
NRA Gun Nutes
December 12th, 2007 at 4:54 pmBack when they were still working on that whole "permanent Republican Majority" project of theirs. How funny is that at this date in time??
December 12th, 2007 at 4:54 pmAnd the Dems kept their f-in' powder dry. And it's still sitting.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:54 pmThey lost it all, to gain a thankless ingrate 4 more years.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:55 pmRepubliscum thy name is hypocrite.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:56 pmWhy the hell doesn't this shock me? These bastards are pure scum!!! The day Democrats come to the realization that republicans are scum and start dealing with them accordingly, will be the day Demcrats have a permanent majority. I sure as hell can't wait.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:57 pmThis is just the Republican motto:
Something is only wrong until we do it. Then it's peachy.
Which follows their mission statement:
Supporting a culture of life, but only until a person is born. After that, too bad.
And, of course, their vision statement:
To tell everyone who will listen that government is ineffective, and then to prove it once elected into office.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:58 pmMy question then is why are the Democrats, to use Trent's words, "blowing the place up." It's not for lack of flammable material. I'm sure they could find a match.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:59 pmCan I point out that while they TALKED about the nuclear option, they never actually DID it? And as I recall, it was over the issue of Judicial Nominations, not over the passage of legislation.
I am certain the precise reason the "Gang of 14" Senators came to the rescue of Senate tradition is all of them either were, had been or could imagine being in the minority and wanted to preserve the tradition of the filibuster. It was a bi-partisan compromise which got some judges confirmed, some discarded permenantly. It is also ancient history.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:02 pmwhat it is, keltoi, aside from "ancient history" (what's your standard for antiquity, btw?) is damning evidence that the party of the right in this country has degenerated to the point it is no longer distinguishable from a common organized crime syndicate.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:05 pmHey, I just want Democrats to talk to the voting public about the 57 separate filibusters so far when the public asks them why it's been so hard to get things done. This is just one reason why Dems will have supermajorities in both houses of congress after the 2008 election.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:05 pm#9 Keltoi...The mugger only talked about shooting me when he had the gun to my head. Silly me--maybe I shouldn't have given him my wallet.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:05 pmIt's absolute Bullshit that RepubCo says, "We're going to filibuster", and the Dems collapse again and again. Once upon a time, filibustering meant standing up for hours and really holding things up on principle by endless talking. I can't believe that this useless, castrated fart that Dems bow down to is even called a filibuster. If this is what the filibuster was saved from being "nuked" for, it was a waste of time.
Dems are LETTING themselves get bent over and screwed. For all practical purposes, they are asking for it. It really is disgusting.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:09 pmCan I point out that while they TALKED about the nuclear option, they never actually DID it?
Comment by Keltoi — December 12, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
Yes, you certainly can point out that what they say is relatively meaningless.
I wish more people would keep that in mind. Judge these people by what they DO, not by what they SAY.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:10 pmThe voters SHOULD 'blow them up' in the next election.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:10 pmNow Dixie here, he'd be comfortable with the mob running the country, 'cause he's a Soprano or something, but I don't think we can translate that to American voters who are not already "made", as it were.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:10 pmwhat it is, keltoi, aside from “ancient history†(what’s your standard for antiquity, btw?) is damning evidence that the party of the right in this country has degenerated to the point it is no longer distinguishable from a common organized crime syndicate.
Comment by tombaker — December 12, 2007 @ 5:05 pm
It sure seems like a long time ago...
As far as your description of the Republicans, do you base that on the use of the filibuster or is that just ad hominem? If you extend the same description to the Dems for the use of the fillibuster I am with you. Otherwise, it seems you have a double standard.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:12 pmWhat did you expect? The dems did the same exact thing. Now it’s being done back to them, and it’s “not fairâ€.
Comment by Southern Man — December 12, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
No one is saying "it's not fair", SM. Please pay attention. This thread is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of the Republican Senate leadership. I don't think any Democrat has called for abolishing the filibuster.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:13 pm#9 Keltoi…The mugger only talked about shooting me when he had the gun to my head. Silly me–maybe I shouldn’t have given him my wallet.
Comment by Menehune — December 12, 2007 @ 5:05 pm
They DIDN"T give away their wallet - a compromise was worked out by the Gang of 14 as I described.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:13 pmIs the DeLay/Abramoff thing of sufficient age that you've forgotten it, too, Keltoi? You remember- -the "pay to play" Congress that "the Hammer" (always laugh at that one) presided over???
December 12th, 2007 at 5:15 pmThis thread is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of the Republican Senate leadership. I don’t think any Democrat has called for abolishing the filibuster.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — December 12, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
And the Dems are whining about the use of the filibuster like the Repubs were when they held the majority.
Is a thread really needed to point out the blatant hypocrisy of ALL politicians? I am pretty sure it is a job requirement.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:16 pmWhat did you expect? The dems did the same exact thing. Now it’s being done back to them, and it’s “not fairâ€.
No they did not do the "exact same thing". Instead of using the filibuster or threatening to as the Republicans have done, they rolled over and cut a "deal" in which they wouldn't use it for fear of having it taken away from them.
What is wrong with you?
December 12th, 2007 at 5:16 pmAS IF the Democrats would actually bully and punish the Republicans for obstructionism... HILARIOUS!!!!
December 12th, 2007 at 5:18 pmWe've got Exhibits A through JJ to pore over as regards the GOP - how much evidence, exactly, do we need at hand, before we can fairly characterize their operation as "outside the law"?
December 12th, 2007 at 5:18 pmIs the DeLay/Abramoff thing of sufficient age that you’ve forgotten it, too, Keltoi? You remember- -the “pay to play†Congress that “the Hammer†(always laugh at that one) presided over???
Comment by tombaker — December 12, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
The former was run out of Congress and the latter is warming a jail cell.
I haven't forgotten, but it is irrelevant now.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:19 pmBeing a hypocrite is an essential part of the psychological makeup of Republicans and their supporters.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:19 pmOutside of the Late Mayor Daley's Cook County machine, there is no example in the annals of American Political History of a group of Democrats doing anything remotely like the R's have done in the last 2 decades.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:20 pmRepublicans live in a hypocrisy free zone.
And, anything in their past they don't want to talk about is always "ancient history".
It's all part of the cognitive dissonance required to remain a Republican.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:20 pm26 - It is??? How??? That's one you'll have to prove.
You'd better clue in the FBI agents who are still getting information from Abramoff in prison. There are still several Grand Juries to be convened, and there will be further indicments, and it will all involve R's.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:21 pmWhat is wrong with you?
Comment by lefty — December 12, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
What is wrong with Southern Man is that he is a fabricator, a liar, and a hypocrite. In other words, he is a typical Republican.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:23 pmThe Republicans *didn't* use the so called nuclear option, they only threatened to. They should have used it, but they are wussies.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:23 pmAnd the Dems are whining about the use of the filibuster like the Repubs were when they held the majority.
Comment by Keltoi — December 12, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
"The Dems" are whining about the use of the filibuster by people who said this:
[Filibustering] is wrong. It’s not supportable under the Constitution. And if they insist on persisting with these filibusters, I’m perfectly prepared to blow the place up.
THAT is the issue. Democrats have never suggested that the filibuster is wrong or hould be abolished.
But they are also pointing out that the ineffectiveness of the Senate to pass needed bills is due to Republican obstructionism -- another term until recently derisively employed by those who now practice the strategy, and practice it proudly. The theory of compromise is severely wounded, and as much as you would like to paint both parties as the culprits, it ain't so. The Republicans delivered the most serious wounds.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:25 pm26 - It is??? How??? That’s one you’ll have to prove.
You’d better clue in the FBI agents who are still getting information from Abramoff in prison. There are still several Grand Juries to be convened, and there will be further indicments, and it will all involve R’s.
Comment by tombaker — December 12, 2007 @ 5:21 pm
Well, future tense is future tense. We have people here who are SURE Bush is going to be put on trial at the Hague in 09. Speculation is just that, but I am SURE TP will be kind enough to link up these indictments if/when they get handed down.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:25 pmI didn't say anything about the Hague, or the Cheerleader Prince.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:27 pmThe Republicans *didn’t* use the so called nuclear option, they only threatened to.
Comment by ClintonWasImpeachedAndDisbarred
No, but they whined like the spoiled little brats they are for years about Tom Daschle and his obstructionist Democrats. WAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
You are correct, they did sound like a bunch of wussies.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:27 pmSure Billy - he can get them from Darth Dick, who still has a shitload of them from his greeting-as-a-liberator.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:29 pmThe theory of compromise is severely wounded, and as much as you would like to paint both parties as the culprits, it ain’t so. The Republicans delivered the most serious wounds.
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — December 12, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
There isn't enough time left in our lives to say who is most culpable, even if it were worth it, which it isn't. Both parties are Chock-a-Block with hypocrits and hyper-partisan freaks who damage the country and the political process. Arguing over who is worse is like comparing the Miami Dolphins to the Atlanta Falcons.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:29 pmComment by Billy Hill — December 12, 2007 @ 5:28 pm
What does 600 pounds of asparagus cost?
December 12th, 2007 at 5:29 pmFLOWERS! Thats the answer. Harry should buy more flowers and hand them out...
Comment by Billy Hill
Only if he puts bees in them.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:29 pmThe post is slanted toward making one believe only the republicans use the fillubuster.
Comment by Southern Man — December 12, 2007 @ 5:21 pm
No, the post is "slanted" toward making one believe that the Republicans are the only ones who b!tched about the filibuster, and then turned around and used it more than any Senate minority in recent history when they lost their majority.
Now that Democrats are in the majority, they respect the filibuster (they respect it so much that they don't even make the Republicans follow through and actually filibuster) and, though it makes it harder for them to pass bills, they DO NOT advocate abolishing it.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:30 pmThe Republicans *didn’t* use the so called nuclear option, they only threatened to. They should have used it, but they are wussies.
Comment by ClintonWasImpeachedAndDisbarred — December 12, 2007 @ 5:23 pm
If they HAD used it, the election of '06 would have left them all but powerless in the Senate. Is that what you had in mind when you said "they should have used it"?
December 12th, 2007 at 5:31 pmSame old Righty-crybaby BULL - from the people who wouldn't know a fair fight if it'd put'em in the hospital.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:32 pmThere isn’t enough time left in our lives to say who is most culpable, even if it were worth it, which it isn’t. Both parties are Chock-a-Block with hypocrits and hyper-partisan freaks who damage the country and the political process. Arguing over who is worse is like comparing the Miami Dolphins to the Atlanta Falcons.
Comment by Keltoi
How embarrassing has it become for the Republican wingnuts that their only defense left is to whine, "Both parties are just as bad!"
My, how the mighty have fallen.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:32 pmBilly, I'm telling you, all that cough syrup is gonna give you an ulcer.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:33 pmIt is also ancient history.
Comment by Keltoi
It's ancient history to you and your ilk because it is an inconvenient truth. You do realize that the Democrats could have done the same thing that the Republiscums are doing now when they were in the minority. But they didn't, did they? And why didn't they do that? Could it be because they respect our system of government and felt that they needed to work with their Republiscum team mates to pass laws. The only time they even threatened to filibuster was when Bush was trying to ram through particularly heinous judicial appointments. And then the crybaby Republiscums started throwing a tantrum and threatened to do away with the filibuster altogether. I am feeling like it's too bad the Democrats didn't force them to do it. If they had, the Democrats would be passing legislation today and Bush would be vetoing it. At least the American public would see who the true obstructionists are.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:34 pmCongress has been prostituted. All of it.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:35 pmThere is no place in our Constitution that allows Congress to subvert the will of it's majority. However, somehow, they have designed a runaway rules committee, a system of denying bills to get out of committee, and a system of denying the public a fair hearing of the bills presented. But, it has worked both ways. Dems and Repubs have been responsible for this corrupting of our forefathers hopeful design.
I’m not a republican. I am sick of both parties,
Comment by Southern Man
There's another one. Can't defend his disgusting, lying, hypocritical, corrupt, Republican leaders anymore, so just fall back on the ol', "Both parties are just as bad."
December 12th, 2007 at 5:36 pmI’m not a republican. I am sick of both parties, and have been for a long time. Why don’t you debate instead of attacks? Because you can’t. All you have are insults based on your own misgivings in life.
Comment by Southern Man
Could it be because you never say anything that is worth discussing? Pretty much all that comes out of your mouth is the Republiscum talking points. For not being a Republiscum, you sure do support a lot of their positions.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:36 pmAwwww - that's just precious - another "I'm not a Republican" Righty claiming he's really an "independent"
That's real popular with the righties these days - wonder why?
December 12th, 2007 at 5:36 pmKeltoi and SouthernMan merely demonstrate the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of the Republicans and conservatives. It is why they must be treated as they would treat others, i.e. ad morally inferior and deserving of scorn.
1. The Bush administration used executive signing statements more than all prior presidents combined. The administration used these signing statetments to such a degree that the ABA (far from a liberal organization) protested the damage that was being done to our form of government.
2. The Republican leadership of this Congress publicly announced that they would use the fillabuster to tie up merely for partisan political gain in the 2008 session. Indeed, their use of the fillabuster is far higher than that exercised previously by either party.
However, the argument of moral equivalency will be the first words out of the mouths of these scum. Degree does not matter, partisan purpose does not matter and the truth certainly does not matter.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:41 pmJMOHR, here, here!
December 12th, 2007 at 5:48 pmI cannot support political parties that continue to ignore the very principles our country was founded upon. One principle dictates that government is not top down, but from bottom up. Too much power over our destiny and our innate responsibility to make our own way has been given up for the sake of having a "safe" life. Our forefathers would say we suck as Americans. You want change? Then march, demonstrate ,and raise the heat on our so-called leaders.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:50 pmLIES! LIES! LIES! All the democrats did was fillibuster. And when they weren’t fillibustering, nothing was coming out of committe. Bush didn’t veto a single bill until this year. Why. Because nothing got through. Compromise my ass. S.S. was hijacked by the dems. They didn’t even want to debate it. Why.:â€It’s our issue, not republicans. We’ll deal with it when a democrat is back in power. We can’t give them a win on such an important issue!!â€. You seem to remember what you want. And it’s all sh*t.
Comment by Southern Man — December 12, 2007 @ 5:48 pm
You're a true revisionist. Nothing came out of committee over the last six years? Bush didn't veto anything because he had both houses with Republican majorities and could pretty much ram through whatever legislation he wanted, except that even some of the Republicans balked at stupidity like his Social Security plans.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:52 pmCould "Southern Man" be more dishonest? Hard to imagine. Here you go liar - a Washington Post article from 2005 explaining why REPUBLICANS decided not to move forward with Social Security legislation: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/15/AR2005091502200.html
December 12th, 2007 at 5:55 pmBush even committed an impeachable offense trying to sell his hack privatization plans to the public. He went around saying that Treasury Bonds were "worthless pieces of paper." That's a direct violation of the terms of the 14th Amendment.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:57 pmWrong again ralph. The republicans didn’t force the democrats to “follow through and actually filibuster†either. A silent filibuster is what is used now, and it was stated by republicans. They hear enough of the lefts crap. C-SPAN would have been doomed.
Comment by Southern Man — December 12, 2007 @ 5:40 pm
Please point out where you say I'm wrong.
A "silent filibuster" is not a filibuster. It is the threat of a filibuster. A filibuster, properly termed, is a procedural move whereby debate is kept open until a vote is taken to end it, or until all speakers have said what they want to say. In the olden days, all it took to keep a filibuster alive was for a single Senator to stay awake and keep talking. If he finished or fell alseep and there was no one left to speak, the filibuster ended.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:57 pmLIES! LIES! LIES! All the democrats did was fillibuster. And when they weren’t fillibustering, nothing was coming out of committe. Bush didn’t veto a single bill until this year. Why. Because nothing got through.
Comment by Southern Man — December 12, 2007 @ 5:48 pm
SM, you are an idiot. In your second sentence you contradict your first. In your fifth you imply that not only did Bush not veto a single bill (Why? Because the Republican Congress gave him everything he wanted) but that he didn't even SIGN a single bill. After all, if "nothing got through" then there wouldn't have been anything on his desk to sign, would there?
December 12th, 2007 at 6:02 pmWhy are we still not focused on fixing S.S. His plan wasn’t the end all. But it was a start. And now we aren’t even discussing or debating it. Why? Because it’s a democrat issue. The democrats killed debate on SS.
Comment by Southern Man — December 12, 2007 @ 6:01 pm
Wrong. The PEOPLE killed debate on Social Security. Bush tried to shop his plan to privatize social security around the country, and it just died. people didn't want what he was selling.
December 12th, 2007 at 6:04 pmSouthern Tool: "Why are we still not focused on fixing S.S."
Because it's not really that much of a problem. And, if you don't believe me, I'm sure your economic guru, Alan Greenspan might be more convincing:
RUSSERT (9/23/07): Do you believe either political party has stepped up to the crisis we face with Social Security and Medicare in the coming years?
GREENSPAN: I do not.
RUSSERT: How big a crisis will that be?
GREENSPAN: Social Security is not a big crisis. We are approximately 2 percent points of payroll short over the very long run. It's a significant closing of the gap, but it's doable, and doable in any number of ways.
December 12th, 2007 at 6:04 pmWhy don’t you debate instead of attacks? Because you can’t. All you have are insults based on your own misgivings in life.
Comment by Southern Man — December 12, 2007 @ 5:33 pm
Debate what? Your patently false statements? I don't debate liars.
December 12th, 2007 at 6:05 pmAnd one more thing, SM: you lied when you claimed you aren't a Republican.
December 12th, 2007 at 6:06 pmGREENSPAN: Social Security is not a big crisis. We are approximately 2 percent points of payroll short over the very long run. It’s a significant closing of the gap, but it’s doable, and doable in any number of ways.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — December 12, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
But, but, but . . . Crisis!
Conservatives have been set on killing Social Security purely on ideological grounds since, well, since FDR. The "crisis" has been manufactured purely for that purpose, but most "conservatives" have no idea the malarkey they've been sold. To them, it's "socialism" and therefore evil; simple logic or facts need not apply.
December 12th, 2007 at 6:08 pmConservatives have been set on killing Social Security purely on ideological grounds since, well, since FDR. The “crisis†has been manufactured purely for that purpose, but most “conservatives†have no idea the malarkey they’ve been sold. To them, it’s “socialism†and therefore evil; simple logic or facts need not apply.
Comment by gummitch — December 12, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
Dang it, gum. I don't know how many "Recommends" I've given you over the last few days. Keep makin' sense, okay?
December 12th, 2007 at 6:11 pmDang it, gum. I don’t know how many “Recommends†I’ve given you over the last few days. Keep makin’ sense, okay?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — December 12, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
Feel the love! I'm always recommending your comments, not just because they make sense but because they make me laugh.
December 12th, 2007 at 6:16 pmgummitch: "To them, it’s “socialism†and therefore evil; simple logic or facts need not apply."
Right. Like the fact that before Social Security, poverty among the elderly was off the frickin scale!
December 12th, 2007 at 6:16 pmRight. Like the fact that before Social Security, poverty among the elderly was off the frickin scale!
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — December 12, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
That's only because those geezers didn't invest their pennies! They deserve to starve.
December 12th, 2007 at 6:17 pmYou're doing fine yourself, Ralph, hence my recommends to you!!
December 12th, 2007 at 6:17 pmAw, shucks.
December 12th, 2007 at 6:26 pmFor more background, see:
December 12th, 2007 at 6:42 pm"Up or Down Vote: Death of a GOP Talking Point."
And, I'm guessing that if Mitt Romney ends up being his party's nominee, convention attendees will not be chanting "Flip flop, flip flop" next year either. They all seem to be aflicted with a strange selective memory syndrome.
December 12th, 2007 at 6:51 pmRalph, Gummitch, Col. Ripper, tombaker, missmolly and several others have been earning many recommends from me in the last couple of days--excellent comments, all! I wish I could hang out more during the weekdays, I'm missing so much!
December 12th, 2007 at 7:35 pmI would love to see these holier-than-thou, repug scumbags actually get that legislation passed. One day they will become the minority again (after we've had enough of their "compassionate conservatism, hypochristian, warmongering, environment hating, middle class & poor hating, kiss the corporation's asses, bullsh*t"). When that happens, they will have screwed themselves in the ass! Go ahead, GOPers. I dare you to pass that legislation!
December 12th, 2007 at 8:47 pm"They DIDNâ€T give away their wallet - a compromise was worked out by the Gang of 14 as I described."
Huh? From my recollection of ancient history the Rethugs got almost everything they wanted (except the two low level judges that not even the moderates could stomach). The Dems rolled over and told the Republicans they didn't need Vaseline.
December 12th, 2007 at 9:27 pm"Understood. I am trying to point out that the dems use the fillubuster process as well."
Understood, and it wasn't the Dems who threatened to "go nuclear". It was the whining P'sOS Rethugs.
December 12th, 2007 at 9:29 pm'Awwww - that’s just precious - another “I’m not a Republican†Righty claiming he’s really an “independentâ€'
If it walks like a goose and steps like a goose. They are just following O'Reilly's lead. I am not a registered Republican!! And you can check it out next week after I change my affiliation.
December 12th, 2007 at 9:30 pmI think the Democrats suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.
The Repugs should be made to eat their words every day, 10 times a day until they are voted out of office.
December 12th, 2007 at 10:42 pmAgreed, Bonnie, or they are just wimps. They are begging to become the minority again.
December 12th, 2007 at 10:44 pmSo, you are a normal poster now, Bartlebee?
December 13th, 2007 at 12:31 amWhatever, Bartlebee, keep being a jack-ass. Enjoy it.
December 13th, 2007 at 12:45 amI am curious, when did I ignore 3 comments?
December 13th, 2007 at 12:45 amYou are an idiot Bartlebee. You are doing nothing but making yourself look like an ass.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:02 amNow, that would be fair if I was truly changing names. Report me, you moron. Have them track my IP. I have never been anybody but JPark and Sabyen91. You are a paranoid freak.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:05 amWhatever, Bartlebee, grow up.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:10 am"I make 3 comments in good humor, and then in crawls your pathetic festering puss filled caracass, to attack me out of the blue."
You were being a troll before. I think it was a fair question.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:20 am"Go take a hike little man. You’ve been measured, weighed and found wanting."
You really do have a problem with self-esteem, don't you?
December 13th, 2007 at 1:20 amAnyway, I am going to bed. You might want to check out those IPs and realize just how many people think you are a tool. Have a great morning.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:22 amCaption Contest:
I've been in a public bathroom with all three of these guys, and not one of them is longer than this.
December 13th, 2007 at 5:25 amThis is a brilliant post, this should be read on the evening news for 30 minutes straight.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:08 pm