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By Faiz on Dec 13th, 2007 at 1:30 pm

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Number of times President Bush was referenced in yesterday’s Republican presidential debate.

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  1. Frosty Cupcake Says:

    Because he’s radioactive.


  2. StratRat Says:

    Oh how they love the chimpster.


  3. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Here’s a news flash for you “progressives.” Bush isn’t on the ballott (sic).

    Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:33 pm

    Here’s a news flash for you Regressives: Bush is the face of the Republican Party.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


  4. overlap Says:

    Here’s a news flash for you “progressives.” Bush isn’t on the ballott.

    Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:33 pm

    ——–

    Here a news for YOU right wingnut doofus idiot….

    In november neither are any republicans

    Dem Landslide is on the way…


  5. gummitch Says:

    Here’s a news flash for you “progressives.” Bush isn’t on the ballott.

    Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:33 pm

    Neither is Ronald Reagan. In fact, he’s dead. That hasn’t stopped the Republican candidates from regularly invoking his name. If Bush wasn’t a complete and utter disaster as President, you can bet these candidates would be comparing themselves to him.


  6. Bobwurst Says:

    Bush may not have been mentioned but he was the smell of death in the air.


  7. Bobwurst Says:

    Neither is Ronald Reagan. In fact, he’s dead.

    Yeah, but in defence of reagan, he was brain dead while in office too.


  8. PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    Here’s a news flash for you “progressives.” Bush isn’t on the ballott.

    Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:33 pm

    But his ideology most certainly is and, therefore, should be discussed.


  9. Wayne Says:

    0: Also the number of times the Republican referenced any real facts during the debate.


  10. Jason M. Hendler Says:

    The format of that debate was absolutely useless. NOTHING of substance could be addressed, because time and topic were over constrained.


  11. overlap Says:

    Here’s another newsflash for you “progressives.” Thanks to your help Nancy Pelosi is the face of the Democrat party. You should be proud.

    Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:38 pm

    Laff !

    Pelosi will be speaker of the house in a totally democratic government in about 1 year.

    And shes got some nice liberal agaendas too….

    Sorry you wont be able to stop it …heh, heh…

    I guess Bush shouldnt have lost Iraq, wrecked the country and made everybody hate republicans…

    Enjoy Liberal rule………….


  12. Frosty Cupcake Says:

    11:

    Most Americans have no idea who the House speaker is, ever. Everyone the world over knows what a general clusterf@ck Bush is. Good luck selling what he’s been making.


  13. Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre Says:

    Today is Black Thursday: the seventh anniversary of the Bush secret fascist overthrow of our Democracy on 13 December 2000, with Five Supreme Idiots giving election-stealer Bush the keys to the Oval Office. And its been downhill ever since…


  14. PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    Here’s a newsflash for you “neoconservatives”. Thanks to your help George Bush is the face of the Republicanic (since you don’t use the “ic” for “Democratic”, I figure you must want it) party and, worse, the United States as a whole. You should be pounded.


  15. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    The format of that debate was absolutely useless. NOTHING of substance could be addressed.

    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 13, 2007 @ 1:39 pm

    Sounds to me like the PERFECT forum for a Republican debate.


  16. EvilPoet Says:

    Poisoned politics: one bad apple will spoil the whole barrel.

    “I don’t care whether they like me at the cocktail parties, or not. I want to be able to leave this office with my integrity intact.” -President Bush, 05-07-06

    Ah well: The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry.


  17. Frosty Cupcake Says:

    Jason: I didn’t see the debate, but most of them are generally useless. I like Biden’s idea: each debate should have one topic (the environment, the economy, etc). Then we might get some depth to them.


  18. PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    The format of that debate was absolutely useless. NOTHING of substance could be addressed, because time and topic were over constrained.

    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 13, 2007 @ 1:39 pm

    What a break for the useless Republicanic candidates who have no substance or constraint.


  19. patooty Says:

    ZERO FOR A TOTAL ZERO! Very appropriate.


  20. Jason M. Hendler Says:

    #20, Frosty,

    Perhaps that could be interesting, but I suspect such a debate would get boring and repetitive. I think a better debate is each candidate listing their priorities, and what they would focus on in their first hundred days. That would be more informative AND more interesting.


  21. patooty Says:

    PLC: What a dreadfully boring (ho-hum) gaggle of losers they were yesterday. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a larger group of conmen and losers one one stage together - unless it was Bush, Cheney and some of his cronies.


  22. patooty Says:

    Even if Chimpy’s name isn’t mentioned, the candidates refer to him obliquely with great disdain. Certainly not respect.


  23. Eric Says:

    All of the “moderators” at these joint GOP press conferences seem to be observing a code of silence on the subject of our current administration. More “liberal media bias.”


  24. Dave C Says:

    The format of that debate was absolutely useless. NOTHING of substance could be addressed, because time and topic were over constrained.

    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 13, 2007 @ 1:39 pm

    It was set up to play to the Republicans’ strength. They have no opinions of substance so it wouldn’t make sense to structure the format in that manner. They should have just put a pulpit in front of each nominee and let them make shite up & demand faith from their followers.


  25. hellinabucket Says:

    Has Bush become Voldemort to the republican party?


  26. hellinabucket Says:

    The format of that debate was absolutely useless. NOTHING of substance could be addressed, because time and topic were over constrained.

    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 13, 2007 @ 1:39 pm

    Sounds like the debate and the debaters were made for each other. Nothing of substance.


  27. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Here’s another newsflash for you Stalinists: your god Algore isn’t on the ballott either.

    Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:54 pm

    Oh, CHL, you do try so hard. And fall so short.


  28. Dumb_Fox Says:

    0: Number of times President Bush was referenced in yesterday’s Republican presidential debate.

    Easy explanation. Republicans love hate. They love to talk about hate. So topics covered, in no particular order, include: Hillary, Mexican immigrants, taxes, Iran, welfare, global warming, abortion, gay marriage, Muslims.

    Stuff they love, like lobbyists’ money, Bush, pork, dwarf-wrestling, pumpkin pie and hookers never get talked about. Unless of course they can be used to attack something they hate.

    And therefore Bush, being a useless tool, never gets mentioned.

    Am I right?


  29. justme Says:

    I can say for sure that his name will be brought up in any general election debates. Brought up and wrapped around the Republicanic (nice, PLC) candidate’s neck like a noose with an anchor on it.

    Bye bye, Republicans. None of your clowns are even close to electable in the general even without the “Bush problem”. Stand alone they’re pretty awful. Tarred with the last seven years of crap, they don’t even rate the cartoon channel.


  30. overlap Says:

    Here’s another newsflash for you Stalinists: your god Algore isn’t on the ballott either.

    Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:54 pm

    We should feel sorry for this retardate troll today…. because hes trying very hard and were laffing in his face!

    They didnt mention bush ONCE !!!!!!!

    HAHAHAHAH !!!

    OUR GREAT LEADER !

    FREEDOM ISNT FREE !!!

    HAHA

    not once….

    R.I.P. G.O.P.


  31. gummitch Says:

    Here’s another newsflash for you Stalinists: your god Algore isn’t on the ballott either.

    Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:54 pm

    A damn shame. It’s fun to see you foaming at the mouth, though, as you slowly realize that the Republicans are screwed in the next election cycle. Your desperation is painfully obvious.


  32. VerbalKint Says:

    Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:33 pm

    This putrid freak gets worse every day. It makes me sick.


  33. missmolly Says:

    Here’s a news flash for you “progressives.” Bush isn’t on the ballott.

    Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:33 pm

    No, Bush isn’t on the ballot. Neither is any former president. However, candidates of both parties regularly invoke the names of leaders of their parties they are proud of in order to get voters to make some sort of association between them and their hero. The fact that nobody even mentioned Bush during the debate speaks volumes — nobody wants to be associated with him or his policies.

    Unfortunately, even though the Republicans won’t mention Bush by name, they still support Bush on the Iraq war, the use of torture, global warming, tax cuts for the rich, funding for SCHIP, erosion of constitutional rights for Americans, etc. Even though Bush isn’t on the ballot, it appears his ideology will be.


  34. Bush Cover Ups Says:

    History will not be kind to the GOP


  35. Frosty Cupcake Says:

    “I think a better debate is each candidate listing their priorities, and what they would focus on in their first hundred days. That would be more informative AND more interesting.”

    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 13, 2007 @ 1:48 pm

    I like that idea for some of the debates, but it would depend too much upon the honesty of the politicians involved. We’d probably get more than our fair share of spin, no?

    Heard an idea once, years ago, that the way to do these debates is to have the topics laid out in advance, then have experts in the topic ready to respond and challenge the candidates when they come out with real whopper that isn’t supported by the facts. Often the moderators aren’t savvy enough to pick up on things that need instant fact checking.

    Anyway, the debates couldn’t be much worse…


  36. overlap Says:

    This putrid freak gets worse every day. It makes me sick.

    Comment by VerbalKint — December 13, 2007 @ 2:00 pm

    No. you should cheer up…. theyre losing it more and more everyday.

    Wait till the economy crashes…. they can kiss permanent tax cuts goodbye too….

    and of course Americans will blame the decider for that too.


  37. Charles James Napier Says:

    Republicans love hate. They love to talk about hate.
    ———————————————————————–

    Sorry but there is far more hatred on the Left. Everyt thread here at TP is overflowing with deranged hatred. There is no conservative comparison to the demented hatred at Lefty sites like TP, HuffPo and Kos.

    Without Leftist hatred this web would not even exist.


  38. gummitch Says:

    I never thought I say this but Time magazine has a good article on the fate of the Republican presidential candidates.

    Among other gems:

    McCain, already 71, would be the oldest President in history. Giuliani has so far tiptoed around the subjects of his ex-wives, his alienated children and questions about his business practices. Romney has been elected to office exactly once, has a record of changing his positions on an unusually wide range of issues, and just announced that he’s a Mormon to a nation that might not otherwise have known or even cared. Though as smooth as corn syrup on the outside, preacherman Huckabee is low on cash, light on organization and may not be able to fill the pews in New Hampshire the way he did in Iowa. And then there’s Thompson, who has not found the transition from Hollywood’s low-lit soundstages to politics’ brighter lights as forgiving as many had hoped. Staffers have fled his campaign in horror throughout the fall, complaining that the candidate listens only to his wife. Thompson’s condition was summed up best by a New Hampshire woman who, when asked in a rival campaign’s focus group for her impressions of all the candidates, responded to a picture of the TV actor by saying, “Is he still running?”


  39. Dumb_Fox Says:

    Here’s another newsflash for you Stalinists: your god Algore isn’t on the ballott either.

    Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:54 pm

    First, please, it’s ballot.

    And second, please, Trotskyite not Stalinist. Us Algore cultist fanatics more readily identify with people who never led their country.

    Thank you.


  40. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Wow. The first wave of trolls in this thread failed so badly, Troll Central had to throw in wave after wave of reinforcements.

    Unfortunately, the new forces aren’t any better armed than the front line guys. In fact, they’re almost completely defenseless.

    It’s really quite pitiful.


  41. Blue Stater Says:

    Thanks for reminding me. Happy hour is four hours away.

    Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 1:55 pm

    As if you’re not already drunk. At least I hope you are, to post the inane crap that you do sober is actually rather scary.


  42. robbez_92107 Says:

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 2:03 pm

    One word. CLINTON.

    Ha - scared you?


  43. Blue Stater Says:

    Republicans love hate. They love to talk about hate.
    ———————————————————————–

    Sorry but there is far more hatred on the Left. Everyt thread here at TP is overflowing with deranged hatred. There is no conservative comparison to the demented hatred at Lefty sites like TP, HuffPo and Kos.

    Without Leftist hatred this web would not even exist.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 2:03 pm

    You ever read the insane rantings posted on Hot Air, Town Hall and all the other nutjob web sites? Please. I assume you have, you sound just like them. At least we let you post here, I’m not allowed to post on any of those, anything contrary to the party line isn’t allowed.


  44. tarazan Says:

    But how many times we heard …” I’ll cut your taxes’ was mentioned…?!.

    Giuliani does not think that our huge defict of 9.3 trillion dollars is a threat to our national security,when it is all funded by foreign countries( about 1/8 from China). He thinks only terrorism is the only threat.

    Giuliani thinks that we can solve this huge problem of deficit by issuing more tax breaks and loot the US Treaury again,by sending refund checks.


  45. Charles James Napier Says:

    One word. CLINTON.

    Ha - scared you?

    Comment by robbez
    ——————————————

    I honestly have no idea what you’re trying to say.


  46. hellinabucket Says:

    Stalinists? Al Gore a God? No wonder you swallow whole the BS from the WH.

    Anyone here become a member of the Stalinist party? anyone?

    How about deifying Mr. Gore? Didn’t think so.

    It’s rather silly that a poster would throw such drivel out and then expect to be taken seriously.

    No sir, not gonna a do it. It wouldn’t be prudent.


  47. Uncle Ho Says:

    CHL; call us “Stalinists” comrade, if you please.


  48. hellinabucket Says:

    Rush limbaugh, Hannity, Mike Savage to name a few. No hate there. Just endless fact stating scholars. No slurs, no missguiding, no hate.

    Is this opposite day?


  49. FearandSmear Says:

    Charles James Napier, He of Great Sanctimony Spoke Thusly:

    Without Leftist hatred this web would not even exist.

    And thank Jeebus for that… Leftist hatred for the hijacking of this country by mentally defective people such as you is our last hope.


  50. Frosty Cupcake Says:

    Is this opposite day?

    Comment by hellinabucket — December 13, 2007 @ 2:16 pm

    Hahahaha.

    :D


  51. Wayne Says:

    Without Leftist hatred this web would not even exist.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 2:03 pm

    We only hate those who support violating rule of law. fckwits like you…..


  52. Charles James Napier Says:

    You folks aren’t Stalinist, but you are the same types of useful idiots that trusted Stalin in his day just as you put your faith behind Americas enemies today.

    You are not Stalinists, just naive fools driven by your simple hatreds and a Utopian vision of the future.


  53. Charles James Napier Says:

    Rush limbaugh, Hannity, Mike Savage to name a few. No hate there…

    Comment by hellinabucket
    ————————————————

    Well, you are right about Savage.


  54. hellinabucket Says:

    Why all the hate Chuckie? Care to discuss this alleged naive foolishness? Pick a topic and lets begin Chuckster.


  55. PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    PLC: What a dreadfully boring (ho-hum) gaggle of losers they were yesterday. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a larger group of conmen and losers one one stage together - unless it was Bush, Cheney and some of his cronies.

    Comment by patooty — December 13, 2007 @ 1:49 pm

    I’ve seen a bunch of puppets on a stage waiting for the puppeteer to use them. I’d vote for one of those puppets over any one of the Republicanic blockheads. They were more interesting and much less likely to damage our country.


  56. hellinabucket Says:

    I wouldn’t be voting for another puppet. Look at who was the puppet master this last time.


  57. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    You folks aren’t Stalinist, but you are the same types of useful idiots that trusted Stalin in his day just as you put your faith behind Americas enemies today.

    You are not Stalinists, just naive fools driven by your simple hatreds and a Utopian vision of the future.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 2:19 pm

    You and the Good Ol’ Boys didn’t do much jawbonin’ about history or political science when you were ridin’ in the Winnebago, headin’ for Bob’s Country Bunker, did you? I can tell, ’cause, you got some of the terminology down, but you don’t show much understandin’ o’ what it means.

    But I bet backstage, a coupla buzz words do ya just fine. Sure works fer Rushbo.


  58. Blue Stater Says:

    Rush limbaugh, Hannity, Mike Savage to name a few. No hate there…

    Comment by hellinabucket
    ————————————————

    Well, you are right about Savage.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 2:21 pm

    Oh thanks for admitting Savage, and Rush no hate there, please that’s all he has (I think he hates himself as well, hence the drug addiction). Hannity is filled with it. Coulter and Malkin, the Bobsy Twins of Hate. And if it’s not hate, it’s fear. The GOP has become the party of intolerance and irrational fear, that’s really all you guys have. Don’t throw stones when your entire house is made of brittle glass.


  59. Charles James Napier Says:

    ralph the wonder llama,

    You and the Good Ol’ Boys didn’t do much jawbonin’ about history or political science when you were ridin’ in the Winnebago, headin’ for Bob’s Country Bunker, did you?
    —————————————————————-

    Huh?


  60. hellinabucket Says:

    The airways are filled with rightwing audio snakeoil salesmen. All trying to out far right the next one. Just listen to a caller attempting to offer a differing opinion. Cut off and then cut down. Then go listen to Thom Hartman and how he deals with differing opinion. Night and day.


  61. Frosty Cupcake Says:

    “You are not Stalinists, just naive fools driven by your simple hatreds and a Utopian vision of the future.”

    Yeah, what have progressive values ever done for the world anyway? Other than abolish slavery, given every adult the vote, established a minimum wage, cleaned up the air, cleaned up the water, given us a forty hour workweek, abolished child labor, established public schools for all.

    You know, all that “utopian” hatred stuff.


  62. RUCerious Says:

    Hey! Look here!~!~!

    I’m still relevant! I can veto healthcare for the poor!

    I can get a Senate cloture vote killed, so you have to do exactly as I want!

    I’m still the derisiver…


  63. gummitch Says:

    Huh?

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 2:31 pm

    Just the llama’s way of joshing you about your utter ignorance of history, Stalinism or just about anything else, based on your comments.


  64. PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    ralph the wonder llama,

    Post 64 proved post 62. Nice set up. No wonder you are the wonder llama.


  65. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Huh?

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 2:31 pm

    You don’t know that the actor who played the lead singer of the Good Ol’ Boys and driver of the Winnebago in Blues Brothers was Charles Napier?


  66. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Thanks, PLC. We do what we can.


  67. Ditch Mitch KY Says:

    To all you supporters of Bush and his Neo-Cons:

    We know you can make smart ass comments about the overlapping disasters of the Bush regime. That is perfectly clear on this thread. Now, since you support Bush, what about showing some respect for our children and grandchildren by taking seriously the crises we confront as Americans:

    1. The Iraq War & Occupation — (save the “all is going well” song & dance) because we Americans are responsible more than 1,000,000 Iraqi deaths and 80,000 US casualties, not to mention the destruction of a country that did not attack us.

    2. Global climate crisis — 7 wasted years of Bush rule has been a set-back to the actions needed to save our environment. Heckuva Job, Bushie.

    3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. . . Too many crises to outline here. Enough of the rightwing smart asses. Let’s see some responsibility for Bush’s failed presidency. How about it, Jason?


  68. Charles James Napier Says:

    hellinabucket,

    I will agree with you that there is to much vitriol in today’s political discourse.

    The only conservative talk radio host that I listen to is Dennis Prager because he prefers calls from people who disagree with him…..and he is never rude to them.


  69. Charles James Napier Says:

    You don’t know that the actor who played the lead singer of the Good Ol’ Boys and driver of the Winnebago in Blues Brothers was Charles Napier?

    Comment by ralph the wonder llama
    ———————————————————-

    Didn’t know that.

    I haven’t seen that movie in 20 years or more.


  70. Charles James Napier Says:

    Ditch Mitch KY,

    we Americans are responsible more than 1,000,000 Iraqi deaths…
    ————————————————————————————

    You’re insane.


  71. hellinabucket Says:

    Well then Charles, what topic would like to discuss in a civil manner. I promise not to fill my posts with hate or foolish utopian fantasy.


  72. Wayne Says:

    You are not Stalinists, just naive fools driven by your simple hatreds and a Utopian vision of the future.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 2:19 pm

    For your information, I am a veteran who has bleed for this country, while you are a scum sucking neocon fascist piece of crap.


  73. hellinabucket Says:

    Charles, the man’s sanity doesn’t change the number of deaths of Iraqis that are attributed to this conflict and the US.


  74. Ditch Mitch KY Says:

    Actually, Charles #75, I’m not insane.

    The number of Iraqi deaths — as established by Lancet and Johns Hopkins University is higher than 1,000,000. The last number I saw was 1,180,000. These two reputable institutions also determine death & casualty counts for natural disasters and they are both held in high regard.

    Maybe you don’t know that 4,000,000+ Iraqis have been displaced from their homes since March 2003. Of that number 2,000,000 have left the country. The living conditions of these displaced Iraqis is wretched. I’m sure you know that electricity is below pre-war levels and sanitation is atrocious. Lack of clean water is another crisis ignored by the Bushies.

    So Charles — the insanity is Bush’s War and the 24% in the US who continue to support Bush. That, my dear man, IS INSANE.


  75. hellinabucket Says:

    Last years Congressional report shows estimates around 700,000.

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RS22537.pdf


  76. Frosty Cupcake Says:

    Facts, schmacts. Bush never lets “facts” get in the way of what he knows is right!


  77. Charles James Napier Says:

    The Lancet numbers are a politically motivated fabrication and you know it.

    Also, this is the first war in which WE are held responsible for every killing committed by our enemy.

    Al-Qaeda blows up a Shiite mosque and kills 50 or 100 innocents and YOU attribute those deaths to America….That’s some very twisted reasoning, but then I suppose you subscribe to the Ward Churchill line of thinking where even 9/11 is the fault of the US rather than the people who actually committed the slaughter.

    Maybe “insane” is the wrong word; you’re actually just plain anti-American.


  78. Buckie Boy Says:

    I’ve always rated him as a big “Zero” from the very day he wasn’t elected.

    Bush/Cheney/Jason/CHL
    Hague Trials ‘09

    Buck Fush


  79. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    Here’s a news flash for you “progressives.” Bush isn’t on the ballott.

    No, but his WAR CRIMINAL STENCH is…

    When I was in DC during the ‘94 elections, the Rapeublics ran an ad that started “Bill Clinton and the Democrats are at it again….”

    It was VERY EFFECTIVE, with the exception of a TRAITOR like Oliver North.

    So, although TRAITOR Bush is NOT running, his WAR CRIMINAL STENCH clings to his goose-stepping obstructionist azs-lickers.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


  80. Ditch Mitch KY Says:

    The Lancet / Johns Hopkins toll of Iraqi deaths was 655,000 in 2005, and their latest estimate is 1,180,000 (one million, one hundred eighty thousand). The sad fact is that we have no idea how many Iraqis have died as a result of the US invasion on 3/19/03 and the four-year nine-month US occupation of Iraq. You see, Iraqis don’t matter in the US calculation.

    Yesterday, the US total casualties reached 80,000, with almost 4,000 US troops dead, 1000+ contractors dead, and of the injured, more than 30,000 have sustained major life altering injuries. Our military and their families have paid an extraordinarily high price for Bush’s disastrous arrogant invasion of Iraq. FOR WHAT?


  81. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    Al-Qaeda blows up a Shiite mosque and kills 50 or 100 innocents and YOU attribute those deaths to America….That’s some very twisted reasoning, but then I suppose you subscribe to the Ward Churchill line of thinking where even 9/11 is the fault of the US rather than the people who actually committed the slaughter.

    And so we attack Iraq, right?

    Al Queda? The ones being FINANCED by TRAITOR Bush’s Saudi FRIENDS, right?

    Anti-American?

    Pretty much describes TRAITOR Bush the MURDERER punk COXUCKER.

    Sincerely,

    NRA Gun Nutes


  82. Frosty Cupcake Says:

    “Our military and their families have paid an extraordinarily high price for Bush’s disastrous arrogant invasion of Iraq. FOR WHAT?”

    Comment by Ditch Mitch KY — December 13, 2007 @ 3:08 pm

    For the oil. Oh wait, we don’t have that yet, either.


  83. FearandSmear Says:

    Also, this is the first war in which WE are held responsible for every killing committed by our enemy.

    Well, what do you expect when you launch a preemptive war. You break it, you buy it…

    But I wouldn’t expect you to even be able to consider such a notion because you surely believe that we were “justified” in going into Iraq.


  84. Ditch Mitch KY Says:

    Charles, I beg your pardon. I am a patriotic American who has opposed Bush’s War against Iraq since August 2002 when Andrew Card said the Bush administration would “see the War after Labor Day.” Remember the sell job, Charles? I certainly do.

    Remember WMD, mushroom clouds, hype and fear, “9/11, 9/11, 9/11,” and best of all — “you’re unpatriotic if you don’t support Bush’s War?”

    Well now, who’s the fool? At least you can be man enough to admit you were wrong — dead wrong — to support Bush and allow him to take our great country over the cliff into a disastrous War with no end in sight. Unfortunately, for our military families, THEY have paid the ultimate price for Bush’s foreign policy calamity.


  85. tombaker Says:

    “I will agree with you that there is to much vitriol in today’s political discourse.” -Charles Emerson Winchester III

    Actually - if you knew the first thing about American Political History, you’d know for sure that statement is exactly opposite the truth.

    Actual History books are widely available through our Public Library system (while we still have one) - it used to be one of the best in the world, but ranks pretty far down the list now, thanks to “improvements” to our civil infrastructure implemented by Conservative and Republicans.

    Anyhow - if you were to browse the newspapers from the alleged “good old days” you would see that the levels of bellligerence and hyperbole of those times was wayyyyy beyond anything bandied about today. Those were the “bare knuckle” days in every way. Today’s catty, parsimonious partisanship more closely resembles a jr. high playground fuss amongst a group of girls (no offense, sisters) than it does anything remotely “vitriolic” or “hateful”

    Get a clue - and a history book, and stop peddling dime store political mythology.


  86. Charles James Napier Says:

    Ditch Mitch KY,

    Unfortunately, for our military families, THEY have paid the ultimate price for Bush’s foreign policy calamity.
    ———————————————————————————

    Please stop pretending that you care about our military men and women when only moments ago you held them responsible for the of murder over a million people.

    I’m out of here for a while..The lunacy at this website makes me sick.


  87. joe cantwell Says:

    chl quit again?

    girl just can’t stand losing all the time.


  88. joe cantwell Says:

    Maybe “insane” is the wrong word; you’re actually just plain anti-American.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 3:07 pm

    chuck. really. you don’t mean that, do you?


  89. Leftside Annie Says:

    Well, this liberal is filled with hate today: hatred for the cynical thieving thugs who are destroying America and the Good Germans who pimp for them.

    Premptive war. Torture. Treason. Lies. Scandal. Corruption.

    I hate you all for what you’re doing to MY country.


  90. RUCerious Says:

    I’m out of here for a while..The lunacy at this website makes me sick.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 3:21 pm

    Why don’t you do yourself a favor and come back in a couple of years…


  91. Wayne Says:

    I’m out of here for a while..The lunacy at this website makes me sick.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 3:21 pm

    Good, because this Veteran is sick of your pandering to fascists and your lies.
    Good riddance to you.


  92. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    Please stop pretending that you care about our military men and women when only moments ago you held them responsible for the of murder over a million people.

    I’m out of here for a while..The lunacy at this website makes me sick.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 3:21 pm

    Actually, that would be AWOL coward COXUCKER and MURDERER punk TRAITOR Bush and his Chickenhawk goose-steppers.

    Who short-changed the military on equipment such as body armor and LIED to the troops about their “mission”.

    As far as being “out of here for a while”, since the “lunacy” makes you “sick”, why not go to Red State, Little Green Bushballs, where

    you’ll be “appreciated” and leave us REAL Americans who care about the USA and the TROOPS for GOOD, not just a WHILE?

    We don’t need TRAITORS like Bush or YOU here…

    Sincerely,

    NRA Gun Nutes


  93. Lefty Patriot Says:

    Happy hour is four hours away.

    Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 1:55 pm

    make sure you toast the death and burial of the conservative movement in the USA, since it’s over. I’m glad you’re so happy about losing three wars, slaughtering thousands of women and children, and sending US tropps to their needless deaths. You’re a bundle of laught
    s.


  94. tombaker Says:

    I’ll be toasting the demise of Righty-ism while I watch it roast on the spit on “the tee-vee”

    When the Tweety’s and Punkinheads have flopped their sluggish asses up onto the “rid us of’em” bandwagon, and they have, THEN you know the bell’s a-tollin’, and for whom.


  95. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    Happy hour is four hours away.

    Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 1:55 pm

    So, you gonna celebrate an AWOL coward like TRAITOR Bush starting an ILLEGAL WAR, while the MASTERMIND of 9/11 is FREE in Pakistan?

    Or will you CHEER the DEATHS of 4000 US soldiers and 1 MILLION Iraqis due to the LIES of this AWOL coward TRAITOR to the USA?

    Yup.

    To your “health”, goose-stepper.

    Sincerely,

    NRA Gun Nutes


  96. joe cantwell Says:

    chuck?

    chuck???


  97. tombaker Says:

    I sure do hope someone brings that statistic to Poppy and Bar’s attention - I’d be happy knowing Barbara’s “beautiful mind” had a chance to reflect on how miserable a failure her precious little cheerleader turned out to be.


  98. ForTruth Says:

    Bush was not mentioned because it’s not a good idea. Why isn’t it a good idea you ask? Because Bush is unpopular. People don’t like him. Most people know he’s a complete loser.

    This is the non-political reason why Bush was never mentioned.

    And none of us know for sure if Algore will be on the ballot, or not.


  99. tombaker Says:

    Hey Dixie

    Where’s Osama, and why are the Taliban running 4/5 of Afghanistan again.

    You keep the war going, and we’ll take the next 2 trillion dollars from you and your descendents.

    Do you even know, Dixie, how many 0’s a trillion has??

    Are you happy to know you owe that much to the Chinese, who are Communists.

    Big Bad Righties beat on Castro all the time, but they don’t have the balls to stop borrowing money and buying crap from China, can they?

    How’s that Chinese Communist lunch taste, Dixie?


  100. missmolly Says:

    Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 4:07 pm

    “We haven’t lost a war yet.”
    – Um…Vietnam? Oh wait — that wasn’t technically a “war”. Come to think of it, neither is Iraq. I guess you get a pass on this one due to semantics.

    “Gore would have done nothing after 9/11. Just like his old boss.”
    – Gore no doubt would have pursued the parties responsible, just as his “old boss” pursued the perpetrators of the Murrah Building bombing in Oklahoma City. I doubt that Gore would have invaded a country that had nothing to do with the terrorist attacks on 9/11. If Gore was in charge, we might have even caught OBL by now, since we wouldn’t have squandered our resources following other agendas.


  101. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Tombaker, I admire you for venturing into that briar patch of stupid that SM planted there.

    He went for the strategy of flinginging many many feces against the wall, hoping that we wouldn’t be able to clean them all up before the stench overpowers us. it’s usually a pretty effective strategy.


  102. tombaker Says:

    Dixie - you’re wrong on every single point in that post, and there are mountains of proof of it.

    There’s not a single GOP candidate that can win - and even so they’re doing their very best to destroy each other and their party’s credibility before the nominating convention has even taken place.

    The USA is more than 50% Democrat, and 38% Republican, according to the latest voter registration data. The rest are Independents, who split in favor of the Democrats.

    You can holler all you want - sky’s still Blue, and so is the USA!

    Get over it.


  103. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Gore no doubt would have pursued the parties responsible, just as his “old boss” pursued the perpetrators of the Murrah Building bombing in Oklahoma City.

    Comment by missmolly — December 13, 2007 @ 4:19 pm

    mismolly, don’t forget the even more relevant example of pursuing those responsible for the first WTC bombing, convicting and jailing them.


  104. tombaker Says:

    The Cheerleader Prince’s program is failure writ large, and even hardcore cons like Paul Braig Roberts and John Dean think so. There’s a list as long as my arm of R’s and Cons who have washed their hands of this outfit, it’s been all over the press, and everyone whose exclusive source if information isn’t an am radio goddamn well knows it.

    I’m sick of people coming around here armed with unicorns and boogeymen, claiming they’re here for “an honest debate”

    Children are savvy enough to identify their trip as the BS it is.


  105. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Again, tom, you wage the good fight and you wage it well, when the only response that I can muster to SM’s blather is “Oh yeah? Sez you!”

    Sometimes I just get overwhelmed by the Stupid.


  106. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    The polls are getting nastier and nastier for Skank Girl. The republicans have it right. Don’t mention Bush, we are the ones running for office. The democrats need to do the same. But they are still under the illusion that Bush is running. That’s why you’re beloved liberals are goin to lose. They can’t get their message to the other side like Reagan and Clinton did. ” F Bush” is all they got right now.

    Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 4:21 pm

    Skank girl? Barbara Bush?

    Yeah, don’t mention TRAITOR Bush–he’s tainted with DEATH and BLOOD on his hands, as well as being a LIAR and COWARD.

    And actually for the NEXT president we have:

    ARREST Bush the TRAITOR!!!


  107. Leftside Annie Says:

    Yeah, southernboy, I guess if you pull your statistics straight out of your ass, they can “prove” whatever shit you want, eh?

    The rest of us prefer facts.


  108. Lefty Patriot Says:

    Gore would have done nothing after 9/11. Just like his old boss. I agreed with the war going into it. And we cannot cut and run now. We need to finish what we started and then go home. And please spare the bulls*it that you care about Iraqis. If you did, you would understand the need for our ongoing presence there.

    Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 4:07 pm

    Gore being denied the presidency assured the success of the 9/11 attacks. Gore would never have attacked the wrong country in any event. 5 years later, and that war is lost, as is Afghanistan, and the GWOT. Lost. Your foolish, ignorant bravado is the typical fascist idiocy that the Nazis tried to pull before they were put in their place, as your idiot GOP will be. You don’t have a chance, fortunately for America. And caring for the Iraqis doesn’t include slaughtering them by the thousands, in my book, you Nazi pig.


  109. tombaker Says:

    Ralph, I’m struggling with my inability to merely ignore them, which is what I know I/we should do.

    It’s also occurred to me that a lot more of the good discussion that does take place could if this was a closed forum, where unicorn-soldiers, flame-brawlers, and the clearly incoherent could be kept out.


  110. Buckie Boy Says:

    this website makes me sick.

    Comment by Charles James Napier

    GOOD, and I hope it makes you real sick, really, really sick, and I hope it make you sick every time your vile, stupid, scum sucking, subhuman self logs in here. No I really mean that, I hope it makes you very sick.

    Bush/Cheney/Charles
    Hague Trials ‘09

    Buck Fush


  111. Lefty Patriot Says:

    ” F Bush” is all they got right now.

    Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 4:21 pm

    and it’s all they need. enjoy happy hour, make sure you drink to the deaths of a million Iraqis and the murder of countless women and children by your brave conservative chickenhawk warmongers, like you. I can understand your need to obliterate yourself midweek; you can see the end of the conservative movement looming. Too bad for y8ou, but great for real Aemricans.


  112. Blue Stater Says:

    Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 4:21 pm

    Your misogyny is so telling. Using the words you do to describe women, it’s clear that you are an abusive alcoholic who cannot have any relationship with women. I pity you and any women who have to deal with you.


  113. Lefty Patriot Says:

    Ii’s interesting that you see big government tax and spenders like Bush 1 and 2 and Reagan as conservatives, dixie chick; they are fascists, straight up, which is why a chickenshit like you will happily eat their shit.


  114. Leftside Annie Says:

    Drop dead, you bigoted redneck moron.


  115. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Comment by Leftside Annie — December 13, 2007 @ 4:38 pm

    Just like you do Annie? Glad you can still see yourself.

    Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 4:53 pm

    SM, translated for the non-thinking impaired:

    “I know you are but what am I?”


  116. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Calling Hillary a skank is childs play with what some you call conservative women. Don’t even try to play this game. I pity the fact that you and I can’t meet in person. My beautiful and lovely wife would laugh at you! And then probably say something to the effect,” where did you meet such an obnoxious person?”

    Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 5:11 pm

    This is comedy gold. First S&M actually says it’s okay for me because you are worse (with no evidence, of course). Then it spirals into an imaginary world where its imaginary wife would laugh at someone, thereby rendering them presumably emasculated? What? What’s the point?

    And the “obnoxious person” bit thrown in? tell the truth, S&M: happy hour started a little early today, didn’t it? Didn’t anybody ever tell you that you shouldn’t drink and blog?


  117. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    SM, translated for the non-thinking impaired:

    “I know you are but what am I?”

    Comment by ralph the wonder llama — December 13, 2007 @ 5:17 pm

    Uhhh, ok ralph. Good one. No, really ralph, good one.

    Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 5:23 pm

    See, everybody? I knew if we dumbed it down far enough, eventually, S&M would be able to get it.

    Congrats, S&M!


  118. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Come on Ralph, fess up. Be honest and tell us what you have written about conservative women. You’re a Chickesh*t if you don’t. But it’s different because it’s Hillary right? She’s not going to get a free pass to the White House. “Misogny, misogny, misogny for Hillary!!!!”

    Haven’t started yet tomb.

    Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 5:30 pm

    Why don’t you tell me what I’ve written about conservative women, if you’re so sure I’m guilty of the same offenses as you? Quote it back to me. I challenge you.

    And when did I ever accuse you or anyone on this board of misogyny? I’ve accused you of stupidity, sure, and I stand by that accusation. Your posts on this thread alone are ample evidence to prove that point. The fact that you now seem to think that all progressives are the same, all think the same things and post the same comments is just more vidence of your stupidity.


  119. Lefty Patriot Says:

    Hey, southern pansy, coulter, harris, et al are bimbos and nazi-enabling skank whores and traitors to America. that just happens to be the truth. your name-calling is just your lack of balls shreiking out, as if we hadn’t figured that out from you fearful, cowardly coscksucking of bushco. the country was founded by liberals as a liberal democracy, and your fascist leaders have had to steal elections and buy up the media to silence them, making it all too easy for them to convince those of room-temperature IQs, like you, halfwit, that this country is conservative. Only in the last 20 years, as you have destroyed the middle class and revived bigotry and racism, has the conservative element raised its ugly head again, and look where it’s gotten us-right into the toilet, rapidly becomeing a 3rd-class nation, militarily weak, economically a joke, morally repulsive. The only chance for survival of the USA as a free country is liberals, the same as it was the last time a petty tyrant attempted to rule from a position of ignorance.


  120. tombaker Says:

    “Haven’t started yet tomb.”

    …to be coherent? Y, I kinda noticed.


  121. OxyCon Says:

    Bush is the face, the poster boy of modern day Republicanism.
    There is no separating the two. Bush has acted exactly the way the Repub party wanted him to act and the Repub party has gotten everything they ever wanted from him.
    It’s time to tie these Repub candidates to Bush so tight that even flip-floppers like Giuliani and Romney won’t be able to wiggle their way away from Bush.


  122. Arn Gunnutes Says:

    Bush is the face of the modern day Rapeublic party.

    An AWOL coward son-of-privilege who avoided Vietnam when it was HIS turn, but LIES to send soldiers to an UNNECESSARY WAR.

    Bush is a MURDERER, LIAR, TORTURER, and TRAITOR to the USA.

    One who uses God and Jesus to justify his GENOCIDE.

    Pretty much like the REST of the Chickenhawk Rapeublic party.

    Not even flip-floppers like Mitt, Rudy and Fred will be able to get away from the TREASONOUS STENCH of

    TRAITOR George W. Bush.

    Sincerely,

    NRA Gun Nutes



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