0:
By on Dec 13th, 2007 at 1:30 pm
View Most Popular
Advertisement
What We're About
What We're Fighting For
What We're Fighting Against
Featured
Subscribe to the Progress Report
Topic CloudView topics sorted by popularity
Afghanistan
Bachmann
Beck
Boehner
Bush
Business
Cheney
Civil Rights
Congress
Corporate Ethics
Dobbs
Education
Election
Energy
Environment
Ethics
Fox News
Gingrich
Glenn Beck
Global Warming
Guantanamo
Health Care
Immigration
International Relations
Justice
LGBT
Lieberman
Limbaugh
Media
Military
O'Reilly
Obama
Palin
Pelosi
Politics
Race
Radical Right
Religion
Steele
Stimulus
Tea Parties
Technology
Terrorism
Veterans
Women's Rights
Visit Our Affiliated Sites
Reports
In-depth studies on select topics
Got a hot tip?
Have a hot news tip? We'd love to hear from you. Use the form below to send us the latest.
ArchivesBlog Roll
HaHa
Bush is teh Loser!
December 13th, 2007 at 1:33 pmBecause he’s radioactive.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:33 pmOh how they love the chimpster.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:34 pmHere’s a news flash for you “progressives.†Bush isn’t on the ballott (sic).
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
Here’s a news flash for you Regressives: Bush is the face of the Republican Party.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
December 13th, 2007 at 1:35 pmHere’s a news flash for you “progressives.†Bush isn’t on the ballott.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
——–
Here a news for YOU right wingnut doofus idiot….
In november neither are any republicans
Dem Landslide is on the way…
December 13th, 2007 at 1:35 pmHere’s a news flash for you “progressives.†Bush isn’t on the ballott.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
Neither is Ronald Reagan. In fact, he’s dead. That hasn’t stopped the Republican candidates from regularly invoking his name. If Bush wasn’t a complete and utter disaster as President, you can bet these candidates would be comparing themselves to him.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:36 pmBush may not have been mentioned but he was the smell of death in the air.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:36 pmNeither is Ronald Reagan. In fact, he’s dead.
Yeah, but in defence of reagan, he was brain dead while in office too.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:37 pmHere’s a news flash for you “progressives.†Bush isn’t on the ballott.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
But his ideology most certainly is and, therefore, should be discussed.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:38 pm0: Also the number of times the Republican referenced any real facts during the debate.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:38 pmThe format of that debate was absolutely useless. NOTHING of substance could be addressed, because time and topic were over constrained.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:39 pmHere’s another newsflash for you “progressives.†Thanks to your help Nancy Pelosi is the face of the Democrat party. You should be proud.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
Laff !
Pelosi will be speaker of the house in a totally democratic government in about 1 year.
And shes got some nice liberal agaendas too….
Sorry you wont be able to stop it …heh, heh…
I guess Bush shouldnt have lost Iraq, wrecked the country and made everybody hate republicans…
Enjoy Liberal rule………….
December 13th, 2007 at 1:41 pm11:
Most Americans have no idea who the House speaker is, ever. Everyone the world over knows what a general clusterf@ck Bush is. Good luck selling what he’s been making.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:42 pmToday is Black Thursday: the seventh anniversary of the Bush secret fascist overthrow of our Democracy on 13 December 2000, with Five Supreme Idiots giving election-stealer Bush the keys to the Oval Office. And its been downhill ever since…
December 13th, 2007 at 1:42 pmHere’s a newsflash for you “neoconservatives”. Thanks to your help George Bush is the face of the Republicanic (since you don’t use the “ic” for “Democratic”, I figure you must want it) party and, worse, the United States as a whole. You should be pounded.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:43 pmThe format of that debate was absolutely useless. NOTHING of substance could be addressed.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 13, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
Sounds to me like the PERFECT forum for a Republican debate.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:43 pmPoisoned politics: one bad apple will spoil the whole barrel.
Ah well: The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:43 pmJason: I didn’t see the debate, but most of them are generally useless. I like Biden’s idea: each debate should have one topic (the environment, the economy, etc). Then we might get some depth to them.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:44 pmThe format of that debate was absolutely useless. NOTHING of substance could be addressed, because time and topic were over constrained.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 13, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
What a break for the useless Republicanic candidates who have no substance or constraint.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:44 pmZERO FOR A TOTAL ZERO! Very appropriate.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:47 pm#20, Frosty,
Perhaps that could be interesting, but I suspect such a debate would get boring and repetitive. I think a better debate is each candidate listing their priorities, and what they would focus on in their first hundred days. That would be more informative AND more interesting.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:48 pmPLC: What a dreadfully boring (ho-hum) gaggle of losers they were yesterday. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a larger group of conmen and losers one one stage together – unless it was Bush, Cheney and some of his cronies.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:49 pmEven if Chimpy’s name isn’t mentioned, the candidates refer to him obliquely with great disdain. Certainly not respect.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:50 pmAll of the “moderators” at these joint GOP press conferences seem to be observing a code of silence on the subject of our current administration. More “liberal media bias.”
December 13th, 2007 at 1:52 pmThe format of that debate was absolutely useless. NOTHING of substance could be addressed, because time and topic were over constrained.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 13, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
It was set up to play to the Republicans’ strength. They have no opinions of substance so it wouldn’t make sense to structure the format in that manner. They should have just put a pulpit in front of each nominee and let them make shite up & demand faith from their followers.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:53 pmHas Bush become Voldemort to the republican party?
December 13th, 2007 at 1:53 pmThe format of that debate was absolutely useless. NOTHING of substance could be addressed, because time and topic were over constrained.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 13, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
Sounds like the debate and the debaters were made for each other. Nothing of substance.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:54 pmHere’s another newsflash for you Stalinists: your god Algore isn’t on the ballott either.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
Oh, CHL, you do try so hard. And fall so short.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:56 pm0: Number of times President Bush was referenced in yesterday’s Republican presidential debate.
Easy explanation. Republicans love hate. They love to talk about hate. So topics covered, in no particular order, include: Hillary, Mexican immigrants, taxes, Iran, welfare, global warming, abortion, gay marriage, Muslims.
Stuff they love, like lobbyists’ money, Bush, pork, dwarf-wrestling, pumpkin pie and hookers never get talked about. Unless of course they can be used to attack something they hate.
And therefore Bush, being a useless tool, never gets mentioned.
Am I right?
December 13th, 2007 at 1:56 pmI can say for sure that his name will be brought up in any general election debates. Brought up and wrapped around the Republicanic (nice, PLC) candidate’s neck like a noose with an anchor on it.
Bye bye, Republicans. None of your clowns are even close to electable in the general even without the “Bush problem”. Stand alone they’re pretty awful. Tarred with the last seven years of crap, they don’t even rate the cartoon channel.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:58 pmHere’s another newsflash for you Stalinists: your god Algore isn’t on the ballott either.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
We should feel sorry for this retardate troll today…. because hes trying very hard and were laffing in his face!
They didnt mention bush ONCE !!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAH !!!
OUR GREAT LEADER !
FREEDOM ISNT FREE !!!
HAHA
not once….
R.I.P. G.O.P.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:59 pmHere’s another newsflash for you Stalinists: your god Algore isn’t on the ballott either.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
A damn shame. It’s fun to see you foaming at the mouth, though, as you slowly realize that the Republicans are screwed in the next election cycle. Your desperation is painfully obvious.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:59 pmComment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
This putrid freak gets worse every day. It makes me sick.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:00 pmHere’s a news flash for you “progressives.†Bush isn’t on the ballott.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
No, Bush isn’t on the ballot. Neither is any former president. However, candidates of both parties regularly invoke the names of leaders of their parties they are proud of in order to get voters to make some sort of association between them and their hero. The fact that nobody even mentioned Bush during the debate speaks volumes — nobody wants to be associated with him or his policies.
Unfortunately, even though the Republicans won’t mention Bush by name, they still support Bush on the Iraq war, the use of torture, global warming, tax cuts for the rich, funding for SCHIP, erosion of constitutional rights for Americans, etc. Even though Bush isn’t on the ballot, it appears his ideology will be.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:00 pmHistory will not be kind to the GOP
December 13th, 2007 at 2:02 pm“I think a better debate is each candidate listing their priorities, and what they would focus on in their first hundred days. That would be more informative AND more interesting.”
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 13, 2007 @ 1:48 pm
I like that idea for some of the debates, but it would depend too much upon the honesty of the politicians involved. We’d probably get more than our fair share of spin, no?
Heard an idea once, years ago, that the way to do these debates is to have the topics laid out in advance, then have experts in the topic ready to respond and challenge the candidates when they come out with real whopper that isn’t supported by the facts. Often the moderators aren’t savvy enough to pick up on things that need instant fact checking.
Anyway, the debates couldn’t be much worse…
December 13th, 2007 at 2:02 pmThis putrid freak gets worse every day. It makes me sick.
Comment by VerbalKint — December 13, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
No. you should cheer up…. theyre losing it more and more everyday.
Wait till the economy crashes…. they can kiss permanent tax cuts goodbye too….
and of course Americans will blame the decider for that too.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:02 pmRepublicans love hate. They love to talk about hate.
———————————————————————–
Sorry but there is far more hatred on the Left. Everyt thread here at TP is overflowing with deranged hatred. There is no conservative comparison to the demented hatred at Lefty sites like TP, HuffPo and Kos.
Without Leftist hatred this web would not even exist.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:03 pmI never thought I say this but Time magazine has a good article on the fate of the Republican presidential candidates.
Among other gems:
December 13th, 2007 at 2:05 pm
Here’s another newsflash for you Stalinists: your god Algore isn’t on the ballott either.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
First, please, it’s ballot.
And second, please, Trotskyite not Stalinist. Us Algore cultist fanatics more readily identify with people who never led their country.
Thank you.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:05 pmWow. The first wave of trolls in this thread failed so badly, Troll Central had to throw in wave after wave of reinforcements.
Unfortunately, the new forces aren’t any better armed than the front line guys. In fact, they’re almost completely defenseless.
It’s really quite pitiful.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:07 pmThanks for reminding me. Happy hour is four hours away.
Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
As if you’re not already drunk. At least I hope you are, to post the inane crap that you do sober is actually rather scary.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:07 pmComment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
One word. CLINTON.
Ha – scared you?
December 13th, 2007 at 2:09 pmRepublicans love hate. They love to talk about hate.
———————————————————————–
Sorry but there is far more hatred on the Left. Everyt thread here at TP is overflowing with deranged hatred. There is no conservative comparison to the demented hatred at Lefty sites like TP, HuffPo and Kos.
Without Leftist hatred this web would not even exist.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
You ever read the insane rantings posted on Hot Air, Town Hall and all the other nutjob web sites? Please. I assume you have, you sound just like them. At least we let you post here, I’m not allowed to post on any of those, anything contrary to the party line isn’t allowed.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:10 pmBut how many times we heard …” I’ll cut your taxes’ was mentioned…?!.
Giuliani does not think that our huge defict of 9.3 trillion dollars is a threat to our national security,when it is all funded by foreign countries( about 1/8 from China). He thinks only terrorism is the only threat.
Giuliani thinks that we can solve this huge problem of deficit by issuing more tax breaks and loot the US Treaury again,by sending refund checks.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:10 pmOne word. CLINTON.
Ha – scared you?
Comment by robbez
——————————————
I honestly have no idea what you’re trying to say.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:13 pmStalinists? Al Gore a God? No wonder you swallow whole the BS from the WH.
Anyone here become a member of the Stalinist party? anyone?
How about deifying Mr. Gore? Didn’t think so.
It’s rather silly that a poster would throw such drivel out and then expect to be taken seriously.
No sir, not gonna a do it. It wouldn’t be prudent.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:13 pmCHL; call us “Stalinists” comrade, if you please.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:14 pmRush limbaugh, Hannity, Mike Savage to name a few. No hate there. Just endless fact stating scholars. No slurs, no missguiding, no hate.
Is this opposite day?
December 13th, 2007 at 2:16 pmCharles James Napier, He of Great Sanctimony Spoke Thusly:
And thank Jeebus for that… Leftist hatred for the hijacking of this country by mentally defective people such as you is our last hope.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:17 pmIs this opposite day?
Comment by hellinabucket — December 13, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
Hahahaha.
:D
December 13th, 2007 at 2:18 pmWithout Leftist hatred this web would not even exist.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
We only hate those who support violating rule of law. fckwits like you…..
December 13th, 2007 at 2:19 pmYou folks aren’t Stalinist, but you are the same types of useful idiots that trusted Stalin in his day just as you put your faith behind Americas enemies today.
You are not Stalinists, just naive fools driven by your simple hatreds and a Utopian vision of the future.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:19 pmRush limbaugh, Hannity, Mike Savage to name a few. No hate there…
Comment by hellinabucket
————————————————
Well, you are right about Savage.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:21 pmWhy all the hate Chuckie? Care to discuss this alleged naive foolishness? Pick a topic and lets begin Chuckster.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:21 pmPLC: What a dreadfully boring (ho-hum) gaggle of losers they were yesterday. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a larger group of conmen and losers one one stage together – unless it was Bush, Cheney and some of his cronies.
Comment by patooty — December 13, 2007 @ 1:49 pm
I’ve seen a bunch of puppets on a stage waiting for the puppeteer to use them. I’d vote for one of those puppets over any one of the Republicanic blockheads. They were more interesting and much less likely to damage our country.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:22 pmI wouldn’t be voting for another puppet. Look at who was the puppet master this last time.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:25 pmYou folks aren’t Stalinist, but you are the same types of useful idiots that trusted Stalin in his day just as you put your faith behind Americas enemies today.
You are not Stalinists, just naive fools driven by your simple hatreds and a Utopian vision of the future.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 2:19 pm
You and the Good Ol’ Boys didn’t do much jawbonin’ about history or political science when you were ridin’ in the Winnebago, headin’ for Bob’s Country Bunker, did you? I can tell, ’cause, you got some of the terminology down, but you don’t show much understandin’ o’ what it means.
But I bet backstage, a coupla buzz words do ya just fine. Sure works fer Rushbo.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:26 pmRush limbaugh, Hannity, Mike Savage to name a few. No hate there…
Comment by hellinabucket
————————————————
Well, you are right about Savage.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 2:21 pm
Oh thanks for admitting Savage, and Rush no hate there, please that’s all he has (I think he hates himself as well, hence the drug addiction). Hannity is filled with it. Coulter and Malkin, the Bobsy Twins of Hate. And if it’s not hate, it’s fear. The GOP has become the party of intolerance and irrational fear, that’s really all you guys have. Don’t throw stones when your entire house is made of brittle glass.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:27 pmralph the wonder llama,
You and the Good Ol’ Boys didn’t do much jawbonin’ about history or political science when you were ridin’ in the Winnebago, headin’ for Bob’s Country Bunker, did you?
—————————————————————-
Huh?
December 13th, 2007 at 2:31 pmThe airways are filled with rightwing audio snakeoil salesmen. All trying to out far right the next one. Just listen to a caller attempting to offer a differing opinion. Cut off and then cut down. Then go listen to Thom Hartman and how he deals with differing opinion. Night and day.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:32 pm“You are not Stalinists, just naive fools driven by your simple hatreds and a Utopian vision of the future.”
Yeah, what have progressive values ever done for the world anyway? Other than abolish slavery, given every adult the vote, established a minimum wage, cleaned up the air, cleaned up the water, given us a forty hour workweek, abolished child labor, established public schools for all.
You know, all that “utopian” hatred stuff.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:33 pmHey! Look here!~!~!
I’m still relevant! I can veto healthcare for the poor!
I can get a Senate cloture vote killed, so you have to do exactly as I want!
I’m still the derisiver…
December 13th, 2007 at 2:33 pmHuh?
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 2:31 pm
Just the llama’s way of joshing you about your utter ignorance of history, Stalinism or just about anything else, based on your comments.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:33 pmralph the wonder llama,
Post 64 proved post 62. Nice set up. No wonder you are the wonder llama.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:35 pmHuh?
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 2:31 pm
You don’t know that the actor who played the lead singer of the Good Ol’ Boys and driver of the Winnebago in Blues Brothers was Charles Napier?
December 13th, 2007 at 2:37 pmThanks, PLC. We do what we can.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:38 pmTo all you supporters of Bush and his Neo-Cons:
We know you can make smart ass comments about the overlapping disasters of the Bush regime. That is perfectly clear on this thread. Now, since you support Bush, what about showing some respect for our children and grandchildren by taking seriously the crises we confront as Americans:
1. The Iraq War & Occupation — (save the “all is going well” song & dance) because we Americans are responsible more than 1,000,000 Iraqi deaths and 80,000 US casualties, not to mention the destruction of a country that did not attack us.
2. Global climate crisis — 7 wasted years of Bush rule has been a set-back to the actions needed to save our environment. Heckuva Job, Bushie.
3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. . . Too many crises to outline here. Enough of the rightwing smart asses. Let’s see some responsibility for Bush’s failed presidency. How about it, Jason?
December 13th, 2007 at 2:38 pmhellinabucket,
I will agree with you that there is to much vitriol in today’s political discourse.
The only conservative talk radio host that I listen to is Dennis Prager because he prefers calls from people who disagree with him…..and he is never rude to them.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:39 pmYou don’t know that the actor who played the lead singer of the Good Ol’ Boys and driver of the Winnebago in Blues Brothers was Charles Napier?
Comment by ralph the wonder llama
———————————————————-
Didn’t know that.
I haven’t seen that movie in 20 years or more.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:41 pmDitch Mitch KY,
we Americans are responsible more than 1,000,000 Iraqi deaths…
————————————————————————————
You’re insane.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:44 pmWell then Charles, what topic would like to discuss in a civil manner. I promise not to fill my posts with hate or foolish utopian fantasy.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:46 pmYou are not Stalinists, just naive fools driven by your simple hatreds and a Utopian vision of the future.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 2:19 pm
For your information, I am a veteran who has bleed for this country, while you are a scum sucking neocon fascist piece of crap.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:47 pmCharles, the man’s sanity doesn’t change the number of deaths of Iraqis that are attributed to this conflict and the US.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:51 pmActually, Charles #75, I’m not insane.
The number of Iraqi deaths — as established by Lancet and Johns Hopkins University is higher than 1,000,000. The last number I saw was 1,180,000. These two reputable institutions also determine death & casualty counts for natural disasters and they are both held in high regard.
Maybe you don’t know that 4,000,000+ Iraqis have been displaced from their homes since March 2003. Of that number 2,000,000 have left the country. The living conditions of these displaced Iraqis is wretched. I’m sure you know that electricity is below pre-war levels and sanitation is atrocious. Lack of clean water is another crisis ignored by the Bushies.
So Charles — the insanity is Bush’s War and the 24% in the US who continue to support Bush. That, my dear man, IS INSANE.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:54 pmLast years Congressional report shows estimates around 700,000.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RS22537.pdf
December 13th, 2007 at 2:55 pmFacts, schmacts. Bush never lets “facts” get in the way of what he knows is right!
December 13th, 2007 at 3:03 pmThe Lancet numbers are a politically motivated fabrication and you know it.
Also, this is the first war in which WE are held responsible for every killing committed by our enemy.
Al-Qaeda blows up a Shiite mosque and kills 50 or 100 innocents and YOU attribute those deaths to America….That’s some very twisted reasoning, but then I suppose you subscribe to the Ward Churchill line of thinking where even 9/11 is the fault of the US rather than the people who actually committed the slaughter.
Maybe “insane” is the wrong word; you’re actually just plain anti-American.
December 13th, 2007 at 3:07 pmI’ve always rated him as a big “Zero” from the very day he wasn’t elected.
Bush/Cheney/Jason/CHL
Hague Trials ‘09
Buck Fush
December 13th, 2007 at 3:07 pmThe Lancet / Johns Hopkins toll of Iraqi deaths was 655,000 in 2005, and their latest estimate is 1,180,000 (one million, one hundred eighty thousand). The sad fact is that we have no idea how many Iraqis have died as a result of the US invasion on 3/19/03 and the four-year nine-month US occupation of Iraq. You see, Iraqis don’t matter in the US calculation.
Yesterday, the US total casualties reached 80,000, with almost 4,000 US troops dead, 1000+ contractors dead, and of the injured, more than 30,000 have sustained major life altering injuries. Our military and their families have paid an extraordinarily high price for Bush’s disastrous arrogant invasion of Iraq. FOR WHAT?
December 13th, 2007 at 3:08 pm“Our military and their families have paid an extraordinarily high price for Bush’s disastrous arrogant invasion of Iraq. FOR WHAT?”
Comment by Ditch Mitch KY — December 13, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
For the oil. Oh wait, we don’t have that yet, either.
December 13th, 2007 at 3:10 pmWell, what do you expect when you launch a preemptive war. You break it, you buy it…
But I wouldn’t expect you to even be able to consider such a notion because you surely believe that we were “justified” in going into Iraq.
December 13th, 2007 at 3:12 pmCharles, I beg your pardon. I am a patriotic American who has opposed Bush’s War against Iraq since August 2002 when Andrew Card said the Bush administration would “see the War after Labor Day.” Remember the sell job, Charles? I certainly do.
Remember WMD, mushroom clouds, hype and fear, “9/11, 9/11, 9/11,” and best of all — “you’re unpatriotic if you don’t support Bush’s War?”
Well now, who’s the fool? At least you can be man enough to admit you were wrong — dead wrong — to support Bush and allow him to take our great country over the cliff into a disastrous War with no end in sight. Unfortunately, for our military families, THEY have paid the ultimate price for Bush’s foreign policy calamity.
December 13th, 2007 at 3:16 pm“I will agree with you that there is to much vitriol in today’s political discourse.” -Charles Emerson Winchester III
Actually – if you knew the first thing about American Political History, you’d know for sure that statement is exactly opposite the truth.
Actual History books are widely available through our Public Library system (while we still have one) – it used to be one of the best in the world, but ranks pretty far down the list now, thanks to “improvements” to our civil infrastructure implemented by Conservative and Republicans.
Anyhow – if you were to browse the newspapers from the alleged “good old days” you would see that the levels of bellligerence and hyperbole of those times was wayyyyy beyond anything bandied about today. Those were the “bare knuckle” days in every way. Today’s catty, parsimonious partisanship more closely resembles a jr. high playground fuss amongst a group of girls (no offense, sisters) than it does anything remotely “vitriolic” or “hateful”
Get a clue – and a history book, and stop peddling dime store political mythology.
December 13th, 2007 at 3:17 pmDitch Mitch KY,
Unfortunately, for our military families, THEY have paid the ultimate price for Bush’s foreign policy calamity.
———————————————————————————
Please stop pretending that you care about our military men and women when only moments ago you held them responsible for the of murder over a million people.
I’m out of here for a while..The lunacy at this website makes me sick.
December 13th, 2007 at 3:21 pmchl quit again?
girl just can’t stand losing all the time.
December 13th, 2007 at 3:21 pmMaybe “insane†is the wrong word; you’re actually just plain anti-American.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 3:07 pm
chuck. really. you don’t mean that, do you?
December 13th, 2007 at 3:23 pmWell, this liberal is filled with hate today: hatred for the cynical thieving thugs who are destroying America and the Good Germans who pimp for them.
Premptive war. Torture. Treason. Lies. Scandal. Corruption.
I hate you all for what you’re doing to MY country.
December 13th, 2007 at 3:24 pmI’m out of here for a while..The lunacy at this website makes me sick.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
Why don’t you do yourself a favor and come back in a couple of years…
December 13th, 2007 at 3:25 pmI’m out of here for a while..The lunacy at this website makes me sick.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 13, 2007 @ 3:21 pm
Good, because this Veteran is sick of your pandering to fascists and your lies.
December 13th, 2007 at 3:30 pmGood riddance to you.
Happy hour is four hours away.
Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
make sure you toast the death and burial of the conservative movement in the USA, since it’s over. I’m glad you’re so happy about losing three wars, slaughtering thousands of women and children, and sending US tropps to their needless deaths. You’re a bundle of laught
December 13th, 2007 at 3:31 pms.
I’ll be toasting the demise of Righty-ism while I watch it roast on the spit on “the tee-vee”
When the Tweety’s and Punkinheads have flopped their sluggish asses up onto the “rid us of’em” bandwagon, and they have, THEN you know the bell’s a-tollin’, and for whom.
December 13th, 2007 at 3:34 pmchuck?
chuck???
December 13th, 2007 at 3:41 pmI sure do hope someone brings that statistic to Poppy and Bar’s attention – I’d be happy knowing Barbara’s “beautiful mind” had a chance to reflect on how miserable a failure her precious little cheerleader turned out to be.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:01 pmBush was not mentioned because it’s not a good idea. Why isn’t it a good idea you ask? Because Bush is unpopular. People don’t like him. Most people know he’s a complete loser.
This is the non-political reason why Bush was never mentioned.
And none of us know for sure if Algore will be on the ballot, or not.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:09 pmHey Dixie
Where’s Osama, and why are the Taliban running 4/5 of Afghanistan again.
You keep the war going, and we’ll take the next 2 trillion dollars from you and your descendents.
Do you even know, Dixie, how many 0’s a trillion has??
Are you happy to know you owe that much to the Chinese, who are Communists.
Big Bad Righties beat on Castro all the time, but they don’t have the balls to stop borrowing money and buying crap from China, can they?
How’s that Chinese Communist lunch taste, Dixie?
December 13th, 2007 at 4:18 pmComment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
“We haven’t lost a war yet.”
– Um…Vietnam? Oh wait — that wasn’t technically a “war”. Come to think of it, neither is Iraq. I guess you get a pass on this one due to semantics.
“Gore would have done nothing after 9/11. Just like his old boss.”
December 13th, 2007 at 4:19 pm– Gore no doubt would have pursued the parties responsible, just as his “old boss” pursued the perpetrators of the Murrah Building bombing in Oklahoma City. I doubt that Gore would have invaded a country that had nothing to do with the terrorist attacks on 9/11. If Gore was in charge, we might have even caught OBL by now, since we wouldn’t have squandered our resources following other agendas.
Tombaker, I admire you for venturing into that briar patch of stupid that SM planted there.
He went for the strategy of flinginging many many feces against the wall, hoping that we wouldn’t be able to clean them all up before the stench overpowers us. it’s usually a pretty effective strategy.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:24 pmDixie – you’re wrong on every single point in that post, and there are mountains of proof of it.
There’s not a single GOP candidate that can win – and even so they’re doing their very best to destroy each other and their party’s credibility before the nominating convention has even taken place.
The USA is more than 50% Democrat, and 38% Republican, according to the latest voter registration data. The rest are Independents, who split in favor of the Democrats.
You can holler all you want – sky’s still Blue, and so is the USA!
Get over it.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:25 pmGore no doubt would have pursued the parties responsible, just as his “old boss†pursued the perpetrators of the Murrah Building bombing in Oklahoma City.
Comment by missmolly — December 13, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
mismolly, don’t forget the even more relevant example of pursuing those responsible for the first WTC bombing, convicting and jailing them.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:26 pmThe Cheerleader Prince’s program is failure writ large, and even hardcore cons like Paul Braig Roberts and John Dean think so. There’s a list as long as my arm of R’s and Cons who have washed their hands of this outfit, it’s been all over the press, and everyone whose exclusive source if information isn’t an am radio goddamn well knows it.
I’m sick of people coming around here armed with unicorns and boogeymen, claiming they’re here for “an honest debate”
Children are savvy enough to identify their trip as the BS it is.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:28 pmAgain, tom, you wage the good fight and you wage it well, when the only response that I can muster to SM’s blather is “Oh yeah? Sez you!”
Sometimes I just get overwhelmed by the Stupid.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:28 pmYeah, southernboy, I guess if you pull your statistics straight out of your ass, they can “prove” whatever shit you want, eh?
The rest of us prefer facts.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:38 pmGore would have done nothing after 9/11. Just like his old boss. I agreed with the war going into it. And we cannot cut and run now. We need to finish what we started and then go home. And please spare the bulls*it that you care about Iraqis. If you did, you would understand the need for our ongoing presence there.
Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
Gore being denied the presidency assured the success of the 9/11 attacks. Gore would never have attacked the wrong country in any event. 5 years later, and that war is lost, as is Afghanistan, and the GWOT. Lost. Your foolish, ignorant bravado is the typical fascist idiocy that the Nazis tried to pull before they were put in their place, as your idiot GOP will be. You don’t have a chance, fortunately for America. And caring for the Iraqis doesn’t include slaughtering them by the thousands, in my book, you Nazi pig.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:40 pmRalph, I’m struggling with my inability to merely ignore them, which is what I know I/we should do.
It’s also occurred to me that a lot more of the good discussion that does take place could if this was a closed forum, where unicorn-soldiers, flame-brawlers, and the clearly incoherent could be kept out.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:41 pmthis website makes me sick.
Comment by Charles James Napier
GOOD, and I hope it makes you real sick, really, really sick, and I hope it make you sick every time your vile, stupid, scum sucking, subhuman self logs in here. No I really mean that, I hope it makes you very sick.
Bush/Cheney/Charles
Hague Trials ‘09
Buck Fush
December 13th, 2007 at 4:42 pm†F Bush†is all they got right now.
Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
and it’s all they need. enjoy happy hour, make sure you drink to the deaths of a million Iraqis and the murder of countless women and children by your brave conservative chickenhawk warmongers, like you. I can understand your need to obliterate yourself midweek; you can see the end of the conservative movement looming. Too bad for y8ou, but great for real Aemricans.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:54 pmComment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
Your misogyny is so telling. Using the words you do to describe women, it’s clear that you are an abusive alcoholic who cannot have any relationship with women. I pity you and any women who have to deal with you.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:54 pmIi’s interesting that you see big government tax and spenders like Bush 1 and 2 and Reagan as conservatives, dixie chick; they are fascists, straight up, which is why a chickenshit like you will happily eat their shit.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:56 pmDrop dead, you bigoted redneck moron.
December 13th, 2007 at 5:07 pmComment by Leftside Annie — December 13, 2007 @ 4:38 pm
Just like you do Annie? Glad you can still see yourself.
Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 4:53 pm
SM, translated for the non-thinking impaired:
“I know you are but what am I?”
December 13th, 2007 at 5:17 pmCalling Hillary a skank is childs play with what some you call conservative women. Don’t even try to play this game. I pity the fact that you and I can’t meet in person. My beautiful and lovely wife would laugh at you! And then probably say something to the effect,†where did you meet such an obnoxious person?â€
Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
This is comedy gold. First S&M actually says it’s okay for me because you are worse (with no evidence, of course). Then it spirals into an imaginary world where its imaginary wife would laugh at someone, thereby rendering them presumably emasculated? What? What’s the point?
And the “obnoxious person” bit thrown in? tell the truth, S&M: happy hour started a little early today, didn’t it? Didn’t anybody ever tell you that you shouldn’t drink and blog?
December 13th, 2007 at 5:22 pmSM, translated for the non-thinking impaired:
“I know you are but what am I?â€
Comment by ralph the wonder llama — December 13, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
Uhhh, ok ralph. Good one. No, really ralph, good one.
Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 5:23 pm
See, everybody? I knew if we dumbed it down far enough, eventually, S&M would be able to get it.
Congrats, S&M!
December 13th, 2007 at 5:27 pmCome on Ralph, fess up. Be honest and tell us what you have written about conservative women. You’re a Chickesh*t if you don’t. But it’s different because it’s Hillary right? She’s not going to get a free pass to the White House. “Misogny, misogny, misogny for Hillary!!!!â€
Haven’t started yet tomb.
Comment by Southern Man — December 13, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
Why don’t you tell me what I’ve written about conservative women, if you’re so sure I’m guilty of the same offenses as you? Quote it back to me. I challenge you.
And when did I ever accuse you or anyone on this board of misogyny? I’ve accused you of stupidity, sure, and I stand by that accusation. Your posts on this thread alone are ample evidence to prove that point. The fact that you now seem to think that all progressives are the same, all think the same things and post the same comments is just more vidence of your stupidity.
December 13th, 2007 at 5:37 pmHey, southern pansy, coulter, harris, et al are bimbos and nazi-enabling skank whores and traitors to America. that just happens to be the truth. your name-calling is just your lack of balls shreiking out, as if we hadn’t figured that out from you fearful, cowardly coscksucking of bushco. the country was founded by liberals as a liberal democracy, and your fascist leaders have had to steal elections and buy up the media to silence them, making it all too easy for them to convince those of room-temperature IQs, like you, halfwit, that this country is conservative. Only in the last 20 years, as you have destroyed the middle class and revived bigotry and racism, has the conservative element raised its ugly head again, and look where it’s gotten us-right into the toilet, rapidly becomeing a 3rd-class nation, militarily weak, economically a joke, morally repulsive. The only chance for survival of the USA as a free country is liberals, the same as it was the last time a petty tyrant attempted to rule from a position of ignorance.
December 13th, 2007 at 5:57 pm“Haven’t started yet tomb.”
…to be coherent? Y, I kinda noticed.
December 13th, 2007 at 6:25 pmBush is the face, the poster boy of modern day Republicanism.
December 13th, 2007 at 7:47 pmThere is no separating the two. Bush has acted exactly the way the Repub party wanted him to act and the Repub party has gotten everything they ever wanted from him.
It’s time to tie these Repub candidates to Bush so tight that even flip-floppers like Giuliani and Romney won’t be able to wiggle their way away from Bush.