Gore draws ‘rapturous’ ‘ovation’ at U.N. climate meeting.
Gore draws ‘rapturous’ ‘ovation’ at U.N. climate meeting.
At the 190-nation talks on global warming in Bali yesterday, former vice president Al Gore drew “rapturous applause and cheers” when he criticized the Bush administration for opposing mandatory limits on greenhouse gas emissions: “My own country the United States is principally responsible for obstructing progress in Bali.” Watch a portion of Gore’s speech:
Gore drew an even louder ovation when he “reminded delegates that President George W. Bush has only one year and 40 days left in the White House.”
Transcript:
GORE: Just this week, new evidence has been presented. I remember years ago, listening to the scientists who specialize in the study of ice and snow, express concern sometime toward the end of the 21st century, we might even face the possibility of losing the entire North polar ice cap. I remember only three years ago, when they revised their estimates to say it could happen halfway through the century, by 2050. I remember at the beginning of this year, when I was shocked, along with others, to hear them say it could happen in as little as 34 years. And now, this week, they tell us it could completely disappear in as little as 5-7 years.
One of the victims of the horrors of the Third Reich in Europe during World War II, wrote a famous passage about the beginnings of the killings and he said, “First they came for the Jews, and I was not a Jew, so I said nothing. Then they came for the gypsies, and I was not a gypsy, and I said nothing.” And he listed several other groups, and with each one, he said nothing. And then he said, “And then they came for me.”
For those who have believed this climate crisis was going to affect their grandchildren, and still said nothing, and who were shaken a bit to admit that it would affect their children, still did and said nothing. It is affecting us, in the present generation.
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Best President we ever had.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:02 pmBest President we were cheated out of.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:06 pmHow shameful is it that Al Gore has to urge those at the climate change conference to “ignore the US” and act for the good of the earth…?
* America *
December 13th, 2007 at 1:07 pm1776-2007
R.I.P.
Here, trollie trollie trollie…
December 13th, 2007 at 1:08 pmThis is heartbreaking…
December 13th, 2007 at 1:10 pm“…… Bush has only one year and 40 days left in the White House.â€
Thats still 1 year and 40 days too long…….
Someone get a cattle prod after Nancy “waterboarding is ok, but get that scary Impeachment table away from me” Pelosi.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:11 pmThere’s my President. This charlatan empty suit in the white house can’t hold a candle to Al. How much better the whole world (excluding Enron and Halliburton…) would have been if the Supremes hadn’t been such whores as to put little Georgie in office.
Come on 2009, HURRY!!!!
December 13th, 2007 at 1:12 pmCaptain, can you point us to any of these imminent plans “to allow a global governing body some control over individual nations economies”?
I must confess I haven’t heard of any concrete details of such a plan. So far, this charge sounds like a lot of conservative alarmism. But that couldn’t be; it’s the scientists who are the alarmists, right?
December 13th, 2007 at 1:14 pmEuropean nations threatened to boycott U.S.-led climate talks next month unless Washington compromises on emissions reductions.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:15 pmCaptain,
December 13th, 2007 at 1:19 pmWe’ve heard the refrain before, that actually doing something about global warming means ruining the economy, or giving over our “economic sovreignty” to the UN. If you are being serious, I would suggest that you have a very pessimistic idea of what this country is capable of when it is determined. If you’re doing the whole global warming denialist thing, the above still applies but your argument is profoundly weak and is a cynical attempt to convince others that saving the planet means they can’t buy a big screen teevee for Christmas.
Why are the right wing sync-o-twits so willing to cry out against the evils of a monolithic sovereignty stealing one world government, yet lick the arse of a loose collection of like minded Multi-national Corporations and their willing religion spouting political tools who are already busy taking the freedoms that people died for a couple centuries ago?
Oh yeah they’re hypocrites and intellectual dimwits, or getting paid to misinform.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:20 pmOff Topic
but well done TP getting a link on http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/
December 13th, 2007 at 1:21 pmAre you using enviromental catastrophe scenerios, to scare people into handing over their decisions to a central global governing body?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 13, 2007 @ 1:19 pm
Are you using economic catastrophe scenarios, to scare people into doing nothing to reduce man’s impact on the global climate?
It’s a legitimate question.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:21 pmCaptain,
December 13th, 2007 at 1:22 pmNo, it’s no longer legitimate to continue to engage in this pathological skepticism. Man made climate change has a broad consensus in the scientific community, and referencing a Time Magazine article from the ’80s is pathetically weak. You need to get off of your right wing, fossil fuel industry funded “think tanks” that feed you this bullshit. You and your ilk are making us the laughing stock of the world.
Global warming or man-made climate change may be the urgent issue that many claim it to be; however, the issue seems to be headed into a rush to allow a global governing body some control over individual nations economies.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 13, 2007 @ 1:09 pm
Fact: the Ice Caps are melting.
Fact: if the ice caps completely melt, it will break down the thermohaline circulation of the oceans currents which sends organic materials thoughout the oceans feeding plankton, which is the basic food of every other organism in the ocean.
This could lead to a massive dieoff in the oceans as well as adversely affecting weather patterns worldwide.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:25 pmHow much of an economic impact do you thing that will cause, Einstein?
wish this mother F would leave the white house now.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:25 pmI’m going to watch the democratic candidates debate now and make a wish, all those falling stars must be good for something
BTW. The Geminides meteor shower peaks tonight, so you can see heaps of falling stars to wish upon.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:28 pmFrank M: Not Cutting It Since 2007.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:30 pmGo, Al! I agree. It is too bad that Gore was cheated out from the 2000 Presidency by the clown President. This country would have been different under Gore’s leadership. But, when you do wrong like Bush did to this country, it comes back to bite you in the ass. Gore earned his nobel prize and Oscar for his work on Global Warming. And Bush earned and will be given his war prize on his way out the door in January 20, 2009.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:31 pmOh please. Why don’t you people put together your savings and buy a small island somewhere and make Al your benevolent ruler.
Comment by Frank M — December 13, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
Oh, please. Why don’t you get your savings together and buy a new brain, your current model is faulty.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:31 pmSpeaking truth to power. I respect that. Run, Al, Run!
December 13th, 2007 at 1:31 pmComment by CaptainMantastic — December 13, 2007 @ 1:26 pm
So scientists “urging government action” = “a handover of our economic sovereignty to the U.N”?
Thanks for the detailed response. And thanks for not stooping to the level of using “catastrophe scenarios” to sell your argument. /sarc
December 13th, 2007 at 1:32 pmGore drew an even louder ovation when he “reminded delegates that President George W. Bush has only one year and 40 days left in the White House.â€
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
December 13th, 2007 at 1:36 pmMan, you know the trolls are running out of juice when the best argument they can come up with is that Al Gore flew to Bali.
Here, trollie trollie trollie…
December 13th, 2007 at 1:37 pmWhy don’t you people put together your savings and buy a small island somewhere and make Al your benevolent ruler.
Too funny. Trying to convince people who believe in global warming and rising sea levels to go live on a small island.
Are you the type of guy who tries to sell Confederate flags in Harlem?
December 13th, 2007 at 1:40 pmHow much Co2 did he burn on the way to Bali?
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:34 pm
Oh give me a f cking break… Is THIS your argument?
You people are not only useless, you’re hopeless.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:41 pmHow much Co2 did he burn on the way to Bali?
I should think the awarness Gore has brought would have offset that CO2 emsions
As an example My house produced zero CO2 because 4 years ago I changes to windturbine electricity from http://www.good-energy.co.uk
Coal fired power stations will have produced 890 grammes of CO2 to generate 1kWh of electricity.
Natural gas will have produced 370 grammes/CO2 to generate 1kWh of electricity.
Nuclear power produces zero grammes of CO2 but it will have produced 0.011 grammes of high-level radioactive waste per kWh.
Good Energy supplies 100% renewable electricity, from wind, wave, small scale hydro and solar power. This will have generated zero grammes of CO2 per kWh and zero grammes of high-level radio active waste.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:42 pmWhen this Country faced challenges in the 20th Century, it found the will, drive, detrmination and wherewithal to overcome them. WW II, the Cold War and the Moon Race especially come to mind. It also required great political leadership and vision to tackle these challenges, something we lack today. It also required a shared sacrifice on the part of the American People to tackle those challenges. This is something else we lack.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:45 pmUntil there is a change in the culture of greed and avarice and corruption in Washington, then nothing will change. You first, must have Political Leadership that has a vision of what America can be and is willing to act to change and get the American People to buy into that change. When that happens, then great things are possible.
Uh-oh… looks like CHL broke into Billy Hill’s stash of cough syrup.
Billy gonna be mad.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:45 pmOh please. Why don’t you people put together your savings and buy a small island somewhere and make Al your benevolent ruler. He missed his chance and now he’s just trolling the world to get attention. He’s just lonely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO9mZ-OTfpo
Comment by Frank M — December 13, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
At least we have savings, not living pay check to pay check like most Republicans who continually, and inexplicably, vote against their own self interest.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:46 pmBritain plans 13,000 winturbines out at sea to generrate electricity for all household lighting by 2020
Scotland will be 100% total renewable energy by 2020
Walkers Crips now have CO2 values on their crips packets , one 25 gram packet of crips produces 75 grams CO2.
If every product in the planet had a CO2 rating we could choose greener products which would leave Chinese goods NOT CO2 friendly and selling LESS , that would be American products too going by the very very slow progress
December 13th, 2007 at 1:47 pmRegarding the “they were predicting a new ice age back then” line — it was never the scientific consensus. It was a hypothesis that was tested and found lacking.
http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/climate-change/dn11643
But I no longer expect any Republicans to understand the scientific process, or reality, for that matter.
The changes needed to address global warming make sense regardless of your position on global warming. They will strengthen our economy and our security.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:47 pmput CO2 values on packets, that way the world can choose what to buy and not
December 13th, 2007 at 1:48 pmHow much Co2 did he burn on the way to Bali?
Comment by cold_hard_left
CO2 is not burned. It is released as a product from the chemical combination between fuel and oxygen.
Idiot.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:49 pmGore would have been a remarkable president. I, like so many others, was devastated in 2000 when the Supreme Court handed the presidency to Dubya. Just imagine what we could have accomplished, and more importantly what we could have avoided. With Gore there would have never been an invasion and occupation of Iraq. With Gore there would have been a coordinated, international and capable alliance of nations to fight against Al Qaeda – instead of the “go it alone” approach of Bush.
I just want to weep every time I have to watch Bush speak, when I know that Gore would have been the leader that we so desperately need at this time in our history and at this point in our nation’s growth towards more freedom, more democracy and more stability for every American.
At least Gore is doing something to improve the image of America in the eyes of the world. What has Dubya done for us lately?
December 13th, 2007 at 1:50 pmOne year and 41 days until our next Republican president.
thats never going to happen ever again , The history books will make sure of that
December 13th, 2007 at 1:50 pmOne year and 41 days until I can buy an American product ………unless its Hillary
December 13th, 2007 at 1:51 pmComment by Bush Cover Ups — December 13, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
Links, please.
And, Nuclear Power is not CO2 free. It does not produces CO2 from operation, but it produced a hell lot of CO” with all the drilling in order to find uranium and its preparation into a suitable fissile material.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:53 pmI posted this on another thread, but it is really fits here:
British MP Edmund Burke
December 13th, 2007 at 1:54 pmAmerica has been going forward for 250 years and 8 years backward with Bush
December 13th, 2007 at 1:54 pmLINK PLEASE
http://www.good-energy.co.uk/our_fuel_mix
December 13th, 2007 at 1:55 pmJuan C
I agree Nuclear is not the way forward , renewables are
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The New IAEA regulations should keep newcomers away from producing their own enriched uranium. The US, UK, France, Germany, Russia, China and Japan will become the world’s nuclear filling stations. Under the auspices of the IAEA these suppliers will dictate the rules, the prices and the currencies they want to get paid in. Iran has become the pretext and test case for their plans. The problems of tomorrow’s world economy are being shaped today.
we now have an anti-Iranian alliance of the US and E3. They smell the opportunity for a coup to seize world’s nuclear fuel market. To succeed, they would just need some legal sauce on the prohibition of uranium enrichment by non-nuclear-weapon states, with Iran as example. And a UN Security Council resolution would be enough, if it legalizes IAEA’s stand that it can forbid countries to enrich uranium.
Of course, they would make it impossible for Iran to stay within the Non-Proliferation Treaty then. To succeed their coup, they will have to take care, that Iran does not leave the organization before a resolution is successfully voted. For if so, there would not be any ground for a resolution anymore.
http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=551761
December 13th, 2007 at 2:00 pmThanks, Bush Cover Ups.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:01 pmBTW, sorry for my poor grammar. I need coffee.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:03 pmGlobal warming doesn’t exist – because Glenn Beck/Rush/Billo/Sean Insanity/Chimpy/deluded Repukes say so…..
Ri-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-ght.
And I’m the Pope.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:05 pmOne year and 41 days until our next Republican president.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:43 pm
There you go with your doom-and-gloom predictions. I’m confident that the American public won’t be fooled again, and the Democrats will take the White House. So cheer up!
December 13th, 2007 at 2:31 pmOne year and 41 days until our next Republican president.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 13, 2007 @ 1:43 pm
Rapture anyone? Same likelyhood.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:39 pm‘Our economic sovereignty.’
Interesting phrase.
It assumes that ‘we’ have rulership over our economic life, and is used to say that it would be horrible to surrender it to foreign governments.
But do ‘we’, the people of the United States, have economic sovereignty?
And, more to the point, do you, Captain Mantastic, believe that we should?
You do not. You and yours object to governmental regulations, you object to raising the minimum wage, you object to national health care. You brand it ’socialism.’
The very idea that the voters of this country could decide they want universal health care, or global-warming regulations, or welfare of most sorts, is hateful to you.
But that’s ‘economic sovereignty,’ CM. You cherish it. You don’t want it to leave our shores.
A national treasure. That you despise.
Of course, I could be wrong. In fact, I probably am.
When you say ‘our’ economic sovereignty, you’re not talking about America, but about the big multinational corporations, that you identify with.
It’s all clear now! No contradiction! ‘We’ can’t lose ‘our’ economic sovereignty means that we. the big corporations, should never be bound by the UN, foreign countries, or the great unwashed electorate of the United States, who just want handouts anyway. That’s the sovereignty you want to protect!
I’m sorry, Captain, I had you all wrong. In my defense,I made the understandable assumption that you viewed yourself as an American.
Silly me.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:45 pmDoes he also remember years ago, scientists telling us we were in for another ice age?
Comment by CaptainMantastic
It is true that there were some predictions of an “imminent ice age” in the 1970s, but a cursory comparison of those warnings and today’s reveals a huge difference.
Today, you have a widespread scientific consensus, supported by national academies and all the major scientific institutions, solidly behind the warning that the temperature is rising, anthropogenic CO2 is the primary cause, and it will worsen unless we reduce emissions.
In the 1970s, there was a book in the popular press, a few articles in popular magazines, and a small amount of scientific speculation based on the recently discovered glacial cycles and the recent slight cooling trend from air pollution blocking the sunlight. There were no daily headlines. There was no avalanche of scientific articles. There were no United Nations treaties or commissions. No G8 summits on the dangers and possible solutions. No institutional pronouncements. You could find broader “consensus” on a coming alien invasion.
Quite simply, there is no comparison.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:50 pmThe debate is over; all we now see is propaganda articles. Political propaganda is NOT science. UK court says Gore is a fraud. August 2007 Update: Man-made Catastrophic Global Warming Not True. Unfortunately, Hansen is a political hack of George Soros. Further, flawed NASA Global Warming data paid for by George Soros. In order to be an intelligent reader you must have a basic knowledge. Please do your own homework; a starting point http://www.InteliOrg.com/ Remember CONSENSUS is NEVER science it’s always a POLITICAL STATEMENT (a Party Line).
December 13th, 2007 at 3:39 pmDr. Coles makes his own case for denying the GW deniers. In spite of mountains of evidence FOR GW (George Soros can’t afford to pay for all of it), all Dr. Coles has IS opinion. Not one fact. Not one scientific report. What he does have is a few reports bought and paid for by oil and gas comanies and right wing think tanks (no bias there, cough, cough). Science investigates and comes to a conclusion based on the evidence. Consensus comes from multiple investigations arriving at the same or a similar conclusion.
CaptainMantastic: our nation has NO economic sovereignty. It has been handed over to MULTI-NATIONAL CORPORATIONS long before the GW debate heated up. I’ll bet you are one of those who believes your 4th amendment rights don’t need protecting, either.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:02 pmThat’s good, O.Bigfoot.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:30 pmYes, bigfoot, in your complete ignorance, ignore the signs of the destruction of the planet. It goes perfectly with the rest of your “philosophy” of lies and murder.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:43 pmThe debate is over; all we now see is propaganda articles. Political propaganda is NOT science. UK court says Gore is a fraud.
Comment by DrColes
This is a list of the scientific organizations behind the findings in the IPCC report on global warming:
Academia Brasiliera de Ciências (Bazil)
Royal Society of Canada
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Academié des Sciences (France)
Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany)
Indian National Science Academy
Accademia dei Lincei (Italy)
Science Council of Japan
Russian Academy of Sciences
Royal Society (United Kingdom)
National Academy of Sciences (United States of America)
Australian Academy of Sciences
Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts
Caribbean Academy of Sciences
Indonesian Academy of Sciences
Royal Irish Academy
Academy of Sciences Malaysia
Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
Are they all frauds too?
December 13th, 2007 at 4:51 pmIn addition to these national academies, the following institutions specializing in climate, atmosphere, ocean, and/or earth sciences have endorsed or published the same conclusions as presented in the IPCC report:
NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS)
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
National Academy of Sciences (NAS)
State of the Canadian Cryosphere (SOCC)
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
Royal Society of the United Kingdom (RS)
American Geophysical Union (AGU)
American Institute of Physics (AIP)
National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
American Meteorological Society (AMS)
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society (CMOS)
Are they also frauds?
December 13th, 2007 at 4:53 pmThe debate is over; all we now see is propaganda articles. Political propaganda is NOT science. UK court says Gore is a fraud.
Comment by DrColes
Your right about one thing: the debate is over. GW is real and caused by humans.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:55 pmThe US is trying to remove a reference to 25-40% cuts in carbon pollution by 2020 for developed countries, which remained in the draft roadmap released by the UN yesterday.
December 13th, 2007 at 5:00 pm“Gore recieves “rapturous†ovation? Hmmmm….can the comparisons between religion and the cult of global warming be any plainer?”
That’s a pretty llloooonnnnngggggg stretch, there O. What else you got?
December 13th, 2007 at 5:04 pmcold hard left: “How much Co2 did he burn on the way to Bali?”
I see. If you are for doing something about global warming why not lay off the flying around.
OK. How about this: if you support the war in Iraq, then sign up and get your fat ass over there.
December 13th, 2007 at 6:22 pmDid O’ Bigfool actually try to prove some point about the “cultism” of global warming by seizing on an adjectival word choice in an article about a speech?
Oh, yeah, I’m convinced.
December 13th, 2007 at 6:41 pmI think O. Bigfoot thought he was being clever.
December 13th, 2007 at 7:04 pmI think O. Bigfoot thought he was being clever.
Comment by Longo — December 13, 2007 @ 7:04 pm
bigfoot never had a thought of his own in his life
December 13th, 2007 at 8:20 pmI just wish he would have named the man he quoted — Pastor Martin Niemöller [spelled “Niemoeller” if the umlaut cannot be shown) — and quoted him correctly:
It makes a difference, you know, because Niemöller listed the sequence of events correctly, and Gore’s misquotation did not.
December 17th, 2007 at 12:54 am