Comments on: Gore draws ‘rapturous’ ‘ovation’ at U.N. climate meeting.

By: Pyre

Pyre — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:54:04 +0000

I just wish he would have named the man he quoted — Pastor Martin NiemÃ¶ller [spelled “Niemoeller” if the umlaut cannot be shown) — and quoted him correctly:

“First, they came for the communists, and I did not speak out because I was not a communist. Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me.”
(Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen, ich war ja kein Kommunist. Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen, ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat. Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten, habe ich geschwiegen, ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter. Als sie die Juden holten, habe ich geschwiegen, ich war ja kein Jude. Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.)

It makes a difference, you know, because NiemÃ¶ller listed the sequence of events correctly, and Gore’s misquotation did not.

By: Lefty Patriot

Lefty Patriot — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:20:47 +0000

I think O. Bigfoot thought he was being clever.

Comment by Longo â€” December 13, 2007 @ 7:04 pm

bigfoot never had a thought of his own in his life

By: Longo

Longo — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:04:24 +0000

I think O. Bigfoot thought he was being clever.

By: ralph the wonder llama

ralph the wonder llama — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:41:30 +0000

Did O’ Bigfool actually try to prove some point about the “cultism” of global warming by seizing on an adjectival word choice in an article about a speech?

Oh, yeah, I’m convinced.

By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper

Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:22:49 +0000

cold hard left: “How much Co2 did he burn on the way to Bali?”

I see. If you are for doing something about global warming why not lay off the flying around.

OK. How about this: if you support the war in Iraq, then sign up and get your fat ass over there.

By: Proud American Liberal

Proud American Liberal — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:04:19 +0000

“Gore recieves â€œrapturousâ€ ovation? Hmmmmâ€¦.can the comparisons between religion and the cult of global warming be any plainer?”

That’s a pretty llloooonnnnngggggg stretch, there O. What else you got?

By: Bush Cover Ups

Bush Cover Ups — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:00:34 +0000

The US is trying to remove a reference to 25-40% cuts in carbon pollution by 2020 for developed countries, which remained in the draft roadmap released by the UN yesterday.

By: DigDug

DigDug — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:55:20 +0000

The debate is over; all we now see is propaganda articles. Political propaganda is NOT science. UK court says Gore is a fraud.

Comment by DrColes

Your right about one thing: the debate is over. GW is real and caused by humans.

By: DigDug

DigDug — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:53:47 +0000

In addition to these national academies, the following institutions specializing in climate, atmosphere, ocean, and/or earth sciences have endorsed or published the same conclusions as presented in the IPCC report:

NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS)
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
National Academy of Sciences (NAS)
State of the Canadian Cryosphere (SOCC)
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
Royal Society of the United Kingdom (RS)
American Geophysical Union (AGU)
American Institute of Physics (AIP)
National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
American Meteorological Society (AMS)
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society (CMOS)

Are they also frauds?

By: DigDug

DigDug — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:51:56 +0000

The debate is over; all we now see is propaganda articles. Political propaganda is NOT science. UK court says Gore is a fraud.

Comment by DrColes

This is a list of the scientific organizations behind the findings in the IPCC report on global warming:

Academia Brasiliera de CiÃªncias (Bazil)
Royal Society of Canada
Chinese Academy of Sciences
AcademiÃ© des Sciences (France)
Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany)
Indian National Science Academy
Accademia dei Lincei (Italy)
Science Council of Japan
Russian Academy of Sciences
Royal Society (United Kingdom)
National Academy of Sciences (United States of America)
Australian Academy of Sciences
Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts
Caribbean Academy of Sciences
Indonesian Academy of Sciences
Royal Irish Academy
Academy of Sciences Malaysia
Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences

Are they all frauds too?

By: Lefty Patriot

Lefty Patriot — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:43:27 +0000

Yes, bigfoot, in your complete ignorance, ignore the signs of the destruction of the planet. It goes perfectly with the rest of your “philosophy” of lies and murder.

By: Longo

Longo — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:30:52 +0000

That’s good, O.Bigfoot.

By: Proud American Liberal

Proud American Liberal — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:02:38 +0000

Dr. Coles makes his own case for denying the GW deniers. In spite of mountains of evidence FOR GW (George Soros can’t afford to pay for all of it), all Dr. Coles has IS opinion. Not one fact. Not one scientific report. What he does have is a few reports bought and paid for by oil and gas comanies and right wing think tanks (no bias there, cough, cough). Science investigates and comes to a conclusion based on the evidence. Consensus comes from multiple investigations arriving at the same or a similar conclusion.

CaptainMantastic: our nation has NO economic sovereignty. It has been handed over to MULTI-NATIONAL CORPORATIONS long before the GW debate heated up. I’ll bet you are one of those who believes your 4th amendment rights don’t need protecting, either.

By: DrColes

DrColes — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:39:43 +0000

The debate is over; all we now see is propaganda articles. Political propaganda is NOT science. UK court says Gore is a fraud. August 2007 Update: Man-made Catastrophic Global Warming Not True. Unfortunately, Hansen is a political hack of George Soros. Further, flawed NASA Global Warming data paid for by George Soros. In order to be an intelligent reader you must have a basic knowledge. Please do your own homework; a starting point http://www.InteliOrg.com/ Remember CONSENSUS is NEVER science itâ€™s always a POLITICAL STATEMENT (a Party Line).

By: DigDug

DigDug — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:50:14 +0000

Does he also remember years ago, scientists telling us we were in for another ice age?

Comment by CaptainMantastic

It is true that there were some predictions of an “imminent ice age” in the 1970s, but a cursory comparison of those warnings and today’s reveals a huge difference.

Today, you have a widespread scientific consensus, supported by national academies and all the major scientific institutions, solidly behind the warning that the temperature is rising, anthropogenic CO2 is the primary cause, and it will worsen unless we reduce emissions.

In the 1970s, there was a book in the popular press, a few articles in popular magazines, and a small amount of scientific speculation based on the recently discovered glacial cycles and the recent slight cooling trend from air pollution blocking the sunlight. There were no daily headlines. There was no avalanche of scientific articles. There were no United Nations treaties or commissions. No G8 summits on the dangers and possible solutions. No institutional pronouncements. You could find broader “consensus” on a coming alien invasion.

Quite simply, there is no comparison.

By: pbg

pbg — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:45:52 +0000

‘Our economic sovereignty.’
Interesting phrase.
It assumes that ‘we’ have rulership over our economic life, and is used to say that it would be horrible to surrender it to foreign governments.
But do ‘we’, the people of the United States, have economic sovereignty?
And, more to the point, do you, Captain Mantastic, believe that we should?
You do not. You and yours object to governmental regulations, you object to raising the minimum wage, you object to national health care. You brand it ’socialism.’
The very idea that the voters of this country could decide they want universal health care, or global-warming regulations, or welfare of most sorts, is hateful to you.
But that’s ‘economic sovereignty,’ CM. You cherish it. You don’t want it to leave our shores.
A national treasure. That you despise.

Of course, I could be wrong. In fact, I probably am.
When you say ‘our’ economic sovereignty, you’re not talking about America, but about the big multinational corporations, that you identify with.
It’s all clear now! No contradiction! ‘We’ can’t lose ‘our’ economic sovereignty means that we. the big corporations, should never be bound by the UN, foreign countries, or the great unwashed electorate of the United States, who just want handouts anyway. That’s the sovereignty you want to protect!

I’m sorry, Captain, I had you all wrong. In my defense,I made the understandable assumption that you viewed yourself as an American.

Silly me.

By: doro

doro — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:39:27 +0000

One year and 41 days until our next Republican president.

Comment by cold_hard_left â€” December 13, 2007 @ 1:43 pm

Rapture anyone? Same likelyhood.

By: missmolly

missmolly — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:31:32 +0000

One year and 41 days until our next Republican president.

Comment by cold_hard_left â€” December 13, 2007 @ 1:43 pm

There you go with your doom-and-gloom predictions. I’m confident that the American public won’t be fooled again, and the Democrats will take the White House. So cheer up!

By: Leftside Annie

Leftside Annie — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:05:39 +0000

Global warming doesn’t exist – because Glenn Beck/Rush/Billo/Sean Insanity/Chimpy/deluded Repukes say so…..

Ri-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-ght.

And I’m the Pope.

By: Juan C.

Juan C. — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:03:49 +0000

BTW, sorry for my poor grammar. I need coffee.