How boring.

Have you ever READ AFJI?

I read it from the time I was in the Army until a few years ago, and I can tell you that it would never submit to any pressure from “liberals”.

Just read any article published by Ralph Peters, or better yet, read his books. Unless he has gone through a radical realignment of his politics in the past month, he is definitely “right of right-center”.

And who exactly are these “liberals” who are forcing their will on military publications? Considering that 90% of their advertisers are military-based industries, I doubt it’s from that angle.

Mukasey may have a conflict of interest problem already, and may have to call upon a Special Prosecutor.

Jose Padilla’s lawyers argued before the Florida Federal Court that Abu Zubaydah was tortured into saying Padilla was an al Qaeda associate. The DOJ dismissed Padilla’s allegations as “meritless,” asserting Padilla’s legal team could not prove that Abu Zubaydah had been tortured. Well, it’s clear now that they certainly COULD have, if the tapes of the interrogations of Abu Zubaydah had been made available!

Now here is where Mukasey’s role comes into question. U.S. District Judge Mukasey, now attorney general, was the one who signed the warrant used by the FBI to arrest Padilla in May 2002. Court records show the warrant relied in part on information obtained from Abu Zubaydah’s interrogation. So we have a problem Houston.

The Attorney General can only issue a warrant based upon legally obtained evidence, and confessions under torture are certainly not “legally obtained”. So either Mukasey was misrepresented the evidence, and would be liable to be potentially a party in those who were presented with “perjured evidence”; or he knew that torture was used in obtaining the confession and ignored it.

In either case he is unsuitable to run an investigation, as it will, inevitably, involved himself. Thus a Special Prosecutor is necessary.

OFF TOPIC:

Replying to Frank M. no matter how off color, off base, and just plane wrong that he can be, legitimizes him and his trollish behavior.

Just an FYI

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Since when is torture… L E G A L?

Listen to the punditry justify torture.
Listen to them justify Christianity.

Who
Would
Jesus
Torture?

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I posted this too late the other day to generate any feedback so here it is again for your thoughts today. Interesting that Frankie is still spewing his same thoughtless emotional rubbish.

The truly sad thing is the US has a long proven history of being complicit in torture. Going all the way back to the 60s at least in Latin and Central America. What is happening now under W is just pushing the envelope further. It used to be that torture was kept under wraps. Today the neocons openly advocate its use, while employing legal “scholars” like John Yoo who create the illusion of legality for those acts.
So now, we have reached the stage where it is not only permissable to torture, (under a bunch of euphamisms,) but it is “necessary” and “good” to “have a national discussion” about the merits of using torture! Truly, black has become white.
Just listen to Frank M here to see and understand the minds of those who advocate and justify torture. Max-1 wants to “figure out how you (Frank M) think”. I propose that there is no real “thinking” going on. Only acting out emotional fantasies while hoping to overcome some insuffurable inferiority feelings they suffer from. Their “reasons” and “justifications” have nothing to do with thought, other than that which will allow them to do what ever they want without the fear of punishment.
That our leaders in the legislature allow this to continue is a tragedy of major proporations. And that includes Democrats as well as republics!

“It’s a sad day when even our military has been forced to kowtow before the liberals. I wonder who got to them.”

Frank M shows his ignorance. The military has opposed these “enhanced” forms of interrogation from the very beginning. We saw TJAG (The Judge Advocate General) for each of the services object to the torture memo. The active duty military TJAGS were removed from the loop and shrub’s political appointees without military justice expertise loosend the rules. One does not get to be the highest ranking attorney within a uniformed service by kowtowing to the liberals. Twenty-eight retired general officers have taken a stand against water boarding.

Yes Frank, do you feel proud of yourself for championing the type of interrogation practices practiced by Hitler, Stalin, Saddam and the Communists of the old Soviet Union and North Vietnam? Does it make you proud to know that not a single one of our allies from the cold war uses this practice? Do you enjoy knowing that you condone a practice that has been considered a crime by our courts for over 100years whether practiced by civilian law enforcement, our military or our enemies?

Yes Frank, you have proven yourself to belong to the same type of fascists that the United States has always opposed. Feel proud to be the scum of the earth? Feel proud to belong to a class of morally depraved individuals deserving of death? This world would be better off without you. If you want to help the long term survival of this country and culture, cut your own life short.

Comment by VerbalKint — December 13, 2007 @ 5:08 pm

But he’s confessed to being a fascist, so he’s already far more honest than most of the trolls here. He’s not in as much denial as they are.

Comment by Wayne — December 13, 2007 @ 5:01 pm

Frankie is a self-professed fascist. ’nuff said.

Comment by Frank M — December 13, 2007 @ 4:55 pm

It’s a sad day when even fascist apologists like yourself refuse to learn anything, even when actual experts in the field correct you.

Comment by Frank M — December 13, 2007 @ 4:55 pm

The Army field manual has banned waterboarding and stated it is illegal under US Law since before Bush was ever (P)resident, dimwit.

If you had ever had enough courage to follow your stances and joined up, you would know this, coward.

In fact, he’s probably getting ready to dismiss the entire magazine as a cowardly socialist tool. They’re gonna be sorry.