Congress sends war funding bill to Bush.
By on Dec 14th, 2007 at 9:56 pm
Congress sends war funding bill to Bush.
Congress passed the defense authorization bill Friday, “sending President Bush a defense bill requiring no change in strategy” in Iraq and “another $189.4 billion for the Iraq and Afghan wars.” The legislation also authorizes “more help to troops returning from combat and set conditions on contractors and pricey weapons programs” as well as a 3.5 percent pay raise for service members. Bush is expected to sign the legislation into law.
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WTF? When we finally store the capital with torches and pirchfors the Dems will not be spared either.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:10 pmahem – storm
December 14th, 2007 at 10:11 pmI just….. don’t….. get it.
*blinks*
~Sean
December 14th, 2007 at 10:14 pmYep! it appear’s you are correct and I agree…Blessings
December 14th, 2007 at 10:14 pmTheb insanity continues!
December 14th, 2007 at 10:19 pmThe Democrats are insane. I’m honestly considering voting for a Thug for the first time in my life. If we’re trying to destroy the country, why play politics with it? Just let the Republicans handle it. Jesus H. Christ. Un. Freekin’. Be. Lieveable.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:21 pmThe Dems roll over and play dead……again.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:22 pmahem – pitchforks
(da nada)
December 14th, 2007 at 10:23 pmI started off thinking that the demos couldn’t show their hand until they had maneuvered the repubs into a corner.
Now I’m very, very confused.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:25 pm8 – too pissed off to spellchek :-)
December 14th, 2007 at 10:26 pmNothing confusing about it. The dems have sold The People down the river just like the Repubs have. It’s time to show your disgust by disaffiliating with the Democratic Party and registering Independent. Hate to say it but I told you so.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:28 pmThe Repturds lie, cheat and steal and the Spineless Dems just roll over and play dead. That’s about the size of it. It’s time for the people to take control back of our government and country. We surely can’t count on any dems to do it for us.
In fact, if Hillary, Barak, and Edwards don’t get back to filibuster the intel immunity, then they will be penalized by the voters in 08.
I can see it clearly now: The Repturds are criminals and the Dems are complicit. Who’s the ONLY man who has the ability to clean up this disaster within? Al Gore!
December 14th, 2007 at 10:30 pmWhat was the #1 mandate of the people overhwelmingly when they put their faith and trust in these democrats to give them the majority?? END THE WAR IN IRAQ! What are they doing? Funding it even further with OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS against our own wishes. This amount to stealing this money from the people outright.
EVERY DEMOCRAT WHO VOTED FOR THIS CHARADE NEEDS TO BE PITCHED OUT OF CONGRESS AT THE END OF THEIR NEXT TERM.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:32 pmTime to clean House(s) of Congress. Sweep these corporate shills out and down the drain.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:43 pmWEAK DEMOCRATS. NO NO… THEY ARE NOT WAEK, THEY ARE WAR CRIMINAL PARTNERS! SHAME ON THIS IDIOTIC CONGRESS. THEY ALSO ARE WAR CRIMINALS, IT IS MORE THAN CLEAR! GUTLESS BUNCH OF WEAK WAR CRIMINALS!
December 14th, 2007 at 10:48 pmTHE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD BE SURROUNDING CONGRESS AND THE WHITE HOUSE AND STOPING THE CRIME RAMPAGE PERPETRATED BOTH BY THE WH AND A WEAK CONGRESS. SHAME ON PELOSI, SHAME ON REAID! HOW LOW WILL AMERICA GO?????
December 14th, 2007 at 10:51 pmHere comes some bad news for Kenneth Blackwell and his vote rigging in the Ohio 2004 election! He’s going to fry. New Sup. of Elections switching to paper ballots because DRE’s failed the test. Hoorah!
December 14th, 2007 at 10:51 pmcheck it out – http://www.bradblog.com/
WTF? When we finally store the capital with torches and pirchfors the Dems will not be spared either.
Comment by Dreary Urbanite —
I COULD AGREE WITH YOU MORE!!!!
December 14th, 2007 at 10:52 pmThe Dems roll over and play dead……again.
Comment by Zooey
That is an excellent comment!!!hahahahaha!!!!
December 14th, 2007 at 10:54 pmok lets see…..if a sargent is making 1500 a month…3.5% would be less than 75 bucks a month.How Nice of them…Conditions on Contractors…….doubt it….and help for the returning troops….what exactly does that mean…..they’ve already butchered there benefits…so…….they accomplished nothing………..grrreattt
December 14th, 2007 at 10:56 pmHi RU! I’ve been gone and these past few threads are quite depressing for those of us who had a shred of hope that the Dems would work for the people finally. I think I’m going to throw in the towel on even trying to work for change. This country has sold itself down the river and I have absolutely no faith in either party at this point. Why should we bother when they don’t give a crap about the people for whom they work – us?
I think it’s time to take a very long break from it all since nothing we think, say, or do matters one iota to those in power. They’ve totally forgotten that they are our “public servants”. If Hillary, Barak and Edwards don’t take a stand on any of this nonsense, then they don’t deserve to be voted into office.
If they don’t have the guts to stand up for the people, then what the hell are they doing wasting their time and ours in this ridiculous campaign bull$hit? Can you tell that I’m totally disgusted? I’m outraged.
If Chris Dodd is the ONLY democrat with a spine who is willing to filibuster and stop this nonsense, then he will get the independent votes which will take away from the democrat candidate and I’d have to admit that they will deserve it.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:58 pmThese Dems have to go. ‘The legislation also authorizes “more help to troops returning from combat”‘ By cutting other social programs. It becomes Paygo when it comes to the veterans but it is “emergency funding” when it comes to Iraq. I am tempted to vote Green next year, damn the consequences.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:58 pmDoes anybody know where the roll-call can be found?
December 14th, 2007 at 10:59 pmI am beyond disgusted with this group of spineless democrats who are merely republicans in disguise. To hell with them all.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:00 pmI think you guys are right….If Dodd does do this filibuster and he ends up with no support(Clinton,Biden,Obama) he will certainly get my support…I want to see who shows up and backs his play here.The 3 other names I mentioned have stated they would support his filibuster….now we’ll see who is who.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:04 pmhttp://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00259 …..Roll Call….this is a good place to start.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:08 pmDid congress vote to give themselves apay raise yet ?don’t worry it coming.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:09 pmJust another freakie Friday in bushworld…..Of course I agree with all of you and have been totaly disgusted for a long time, weary also…I’m still going with Kucenich and he’s the only dem. I will vote for, in fact will write him in if he does not make it through this sherade of a campaign, you all do as you choose..Please let me know when and where we will load the bus’s and march with pitch fork’s, I would like a window seat..Blessings
December 14th, 2007 at 11:17 pmThanks mudshark, great link. My state went the right way. Not surprised at Feingold, shocked at Kohl.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:30 pmEveryone should be used to this by now.
We’ve all seen it for years.
They kill their own people by the thousands while plunging their country into
unheard of debt and killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people, women
and children while devastating our environment, laughing at our laws,
shredding the Constitution and destroying our standing across the world.
How does that song go ? . . . ‘We keep waiting for the world to change’ ? . .
There is only one way home for us . . . death . . . or victory.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:31 pm“President Bush’s steadfast determination has won again.”
That look in Bush’s eyes? Not “steadfast determination”. It is pure stupidity. Deer in the headlights. It is the look of the 6 year old when you ask him to spell onomatopoeia. Or when you ask a conservative how to spell compassion.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:33 pmwow what a bargain
are they sure there’s no way we could spend more on it?
December 14th, 2007 at 11:37 pmTotal capitulation by the Dems.
I am not surprised. They capitulated when the war was going badly 9 months ago. Now they would have to choke off the effort when things are as good as they have been in years.
A late Friday afternoon vote on the busiest shopping weekend of the year. This WOULD be a perfect time for a Congressional pay raise.
Progressives, you have no party. Veritas is right.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:40 pmNeither Bigfoot, nor the Cheerleader Prince, will ever defeat me.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:47 pmif winning means pawning the stars and stripes to the Chinese, for the sake of squandering our military and our reputation, then losing will be fine with me.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:49 pmIt’s pretty funny how you libs keep calling President Bush stupid, yet he defeates you at every turn.
If he’s as stupid as you say, then what does that make you?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 14, 2007 @ 11:46 pm
This is actually a very good point.
Progressives, you have no party.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:54 pmK – -see 37.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:55 pm“It’s pretty funny how you libs keep calling President Bush stupid, yet he defeates you at every turn.”
How has he defeated “us libs”? He is not defeating anybody. There are enough money-hungry whores in the Democratic party (not libs) where all he has to do is wave a Benjamin and they fall in line. ”
If he’s as stupid as you say, then what does that make you?”
Well, if he and I were on Jeopardy, it would make me a millionaire.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:58 pmYou on the other hand, seem to think he is a pretty bright guy. What does that make you?
December 14th, 2007 at 11:59 pmI wonder how much it would cost to send every Democratic member of the Senate a backbone for Xmas?
December 15th, 2007 at 12:00 amWitch 1
December 15th, 2007 at 12:01 amTell the bus to stop here in Illinois on your way to Washington D.C. I am locating my pitchfork and torch now.
Nothing we say or do gets their attention – so we will have to show them we are not kidding.
It’s pretty funny how you libs keep calling President Bush stupid, yet he defeates you at every turn.
If he’s as stupid as you say, then what does that make you?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 14, 2007 @ 11:46 pm
He defeats all Americans at every turn. He destroys this country a little more every time his evil minions do his bidding. There is no question that he has spied on members of Congress, and is blackmailing many. You republican tools who crow about these victories are just pawns in the GOP game of destroying our democracy and taking our freedom. You are all traitors.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:03 amK – -see 37.
Comment by tombaker — December 14, 2007 @ 11:55 pm
Yes…it is a depressing thought. But somehow, my bet is on the US over China. This decade is a major replay of the 20’s in many respects from an economic standpoint. There is pain coming our way, no doubt, but not more, I think, than we can take.
I doubt Pat Buchannen has many fans here, but he was vehemently against NAFTA and the Iraq invasion…for all that he wrote Nixon’s speeches there are times I think he is the only real conservative left.
Anyhow, when pressed in an interview about America’s imminent demise, he conceded that America has always posessed amazing recuperative powers. I think he is right. I hope he is right.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:04 amyou like borrowing that $ from communists, biggie?
pinko.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:04 am#40
December 15th, 2007 at 12:05 amBush is intellectually stupid, educationally ignorant, socially oafish, but politically savvy. He learned long ago to exploit his birth privileges with little effort, except to smash his opponents with the sheer force of his family’s wealth and power.
that’s whatcha got, K
a 2 trillion dollar brooklyn bridge to baghdad
congratulations.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:05 ami hope to see all the optimism and smugness from righties once the dollar’s worth 60 cents canadian.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:06 ami hope to see all the optimism and smugness from righties once the dollar’s worth 60 cents canadian.
Comment by tombaker — December 15, 2007 @ 12:06 am
No smugness or optimism here. I am only a rightie by comparison to the TP Spectrum…
December 15th, 2007 at 12:10 am“It makes me just as bright as him, and much brighter than you.”
You might want to add delusional to your self-awareness list.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:15 am“No smugness or optimism here. I am only a rightie by comparison to the TP Spectrum…”
Congratulations.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:16 amNothing confusing about it. The dems have sold The People down the river just like the Repubs have. It’s time to show your disgust by disaffiliating with the Democratic Party and registering Independent. Hate to say it but I told you so.
Comment by patooty
I’ve been there and done that. And don’t bother sending Nancy Pelosi an e-mail from either her Contact page on her Speaker site or from her Congressperson page, because she isn’t taking any e-mails. The Speaker contact page bounces your e-mail and her California Congressperson page sends you a canned reply telling you that if you are not a “registered” California constituent, she isn’t interested in what you have to say.
God I wish there was some way that “we the people” could kick both Pelosi and Reid to the curb.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:16 am“Nothing confusing about it. The dems have sold The People down the river just like the Repubs have. It’s time to show your disgust by disaffiliating with the Democratic Party and registering Independent. Hate to say it but I told you so.”
I don’t understand what you are saying. Republicans are still worse than Dems. Why would I, suddenly become a wishy-washy centrist indy?
December 15th, 2007 at 12:18 amNo, the Bush administration wins, the Democratic Congress caves, America loses.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:20 amEvery now and then a thread arises where the TP conventional wisdom folk dare the “trolls” to post.
I feel bad for you guys tonight. You have been so totally had by the Dems. If I were a Progressive I’d kill my computer and go drink.
Bigfoot is right. Veritas is right. Tombaker is right.
Go Obama.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:23 amI don’t understand what you are saying. Republicans are still worse than Dems. Why would I, suddenly become a wishy-washy centrist indy?
Comment by Sabyen91
Because if enough Democrats quit the party and become Independents it will send a strong message to the Democratic party that the DLC is killing the party and putting the Democrats in extreme jeopardy. The Democrats are going to need us “grass roots” kind of people to get out there and work hard to defeat the Republiscum congressmen and Senators. But the way they are going, no one is going to heed their call and we will end up with either another Republican President or a Congress that is not very different from what it is now, with a Democratic President. That will still end in gridlock because the Republiscums will continue their obstruction and nothing will get done and nothing will change.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:24 am“Because if enough Democrats quit the party and become Independents it will send a strong message to the Democratic party that the DLC is killing the party and putting the Democrats in extreme jeopardy.”
Tell you what, as soon as my district stops electing Tammy Baldwin and Russ Feingold…I will become independent. And becoming an independent is NOT going to change my vote. If I can help it no Republican will represent me.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:29 amI’m going to barf.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:30 amThere you go. cold hard left says third party.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:30 am‘Remeber the plan that said it was better for Congress to split the legislation into micro bills instead of big bills that were easy to defeat. The money that Congress is dangling in front of Bush is like a carrot on a stick. Bush keeps saying “Show me the money!†Thinking Congress doesn’t have the appropriations set aside. They keep saying, “O…I got your money Baby…say hey!‒
Sorry, but I don’t buy it. Pelosi and Reid are huge wimps or are bought along with most Dems. Or they are so used to losing they miss it. There is no grand plan by them.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:36 amThere you go. cold hard left says third party.
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 12:30 am
Yeah, well, he really hates the Prog agenda, whereas I just find it distasteful.
You would all be fools to abandon the Dems absent an amazingly charismatic leader who actually Could form a Progressive Party.
Believe it or not, I think Obama could be that man. He exudes charisma. He talks a good vision. He would be VERY hard for the largely white christian male Repubs to block. And secretly, I think he is more radical than anyone suspects.
You could elect a Democrat and get a Progressive. The same is likely true of Edwards but he is the only one of the Big 3 Dem nominees who has no chance of winning.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:39 amObama is a DLC hack. I don’t think I am going to vote for him. Thanks for the tip though.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:43 amjustasking. What makes you think I am a troll? Other than the fact that I don’t read (according to you).
December 15th, 2007 at 12:44 amI can see bigfoot has stuck his bigfoot in his big mouth again….at any rate…lets see what happens in the next general election…shall we?Then come back at post your Bullsh!t
December 15th, 2007 at 12:45 amSabyen 91..ignore them……..
December 15th, 2007 at 12:47 amYou are probably right mudsharks…Just feeling a little froggy.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:49 amHow is Obama secretly more radical than anyone suspects? In your thinking Keltoi?
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 12:42 am
It is just a hunch. Were he to gain power, he could BE as radical as he wanted.
Look, the Race Card is a monster in American politics. When you look at Jackson, Sharpton et al….I would say an apparent moderate like O could do incredible things once he had the big chair.
He is the product of a bi-racial marriage between a Muslim and a Christian who spent some of his upbringing outside the US. He has been candid about using drugs.
Those three things alone would make him the most radical President we have had since FDR.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:50 amIf I were a Progressive I’d kill my computer and go drink.
Comment by Keltoi at Night
Huh???
I consider myself a progressive and I couldn’t care less about Dems. To me, political groups will always watch their backs against the common people, which is the whole deal of a plutocracy.
I think this is far worst for Bush and for the national extremists behind his actions. People is getting tired of the whole scam of free market crap and how the market is gonna solve everything, meanwhile the world’s most powerful middle class (US) is being depleted by neoliberal economic structures.
And funny enough, as the worldwide breach between poor and rich people is getting bigger and bigger, Marx is spot on 150 years later.
Now, Hardcore left is not Al Gore, come on. I urge you to go to any university in Italy to know what hard-core left is. Any 18 kid can refute you any of your usual and boring jingoistic propaganda.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:52 amKeltoi, so you are going with the “he is a black and his dad was a Muslim” deal? Sorry, he supported Joe Lieberman. Sounds awfully liberal to me.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:53 amWhat are you speaking of, justasking? What did I say that offended you?
December 15th, 2007 at 12:55 amAre you talking about the supposed “aid for veterans”? If so, I have read MORE about that than these links. I will give you links to stories about how much BS that really is.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:57 amKeltoi, so you are going with the “he is a black and his dad was a Muslim†deal? Sorry, he supported Joe Lieberman. Sounds awfully liberal to me.
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 12:53 am
The art of Triangulating is doing it in such a way no one knows you are doing it. Clinton is tagged with that label, Obama is not.
I am telling you, once in power I think he’d shock the US, especially since he’d have a majority in Congress. It is as close to a 3rd Party as you guys are going to get.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:57 amNo, Obama is tagged with it among many progressives. He has been as DLC as is possible. Why do you think he would change after being elected? And why not Hillary?
December 15th, 2007 at 12:58 amAre you going to say anything substantial, justasking, or are you just going to smear me?
December 15th, 2007 at 12:59 am“Our troops who are captured endure worse at the hands of the enemy, so a waterboarding, as practiced by the United States, would be far preferable.”
Wow, moral relativitism from a ReThug. Surprising. What about the fact that torture is not a good way to get info. Or are you just looking for ways to punish the enemy?
December 15th, 2007 at 1:02 am“There is no choice but victory.”
Nice sound bite. I think they used that one in Vietnam as well.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:03 amgood points re: Obama, k – i’ve had hopeful thoughts along those lines about him, too
sayben – i know you’re no troll, and will vouch.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:04 amNo, Obama is tagged with it among many progressives. He has been as DLC as is possible. Why do you think he would change after being elected? And why not Hillary?
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 12:58 am
Hill-a-Copter is the definition of status quo. She is the only Dem in the race that would be indistinguisable from a Repub.
Did you notice how right after Bush was elected he refused to go after the Clintons in any way shape or form? A vote for Hillary is a vote for more of the same.
Unless the Rs nominate McCain, which it looks like they won’t, they are toast in the 08. So whoever wins the Dem nomination will be Prez.
Now,you may be right, O may be DLC, but you KNOW Hill is – all she wants is the spot, just the same way W wanted it to match up to Bush 41.
Nominating Hillary is crazy on multiple levels, I hope to the Gods Obama wins in Iowa.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:05 ambiggie, on the other hand….
let’s just say “the coherence” is not his strongest suit.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:06 amThanks, tomB.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:06 amBill Clinton was the best Republican president ever. I think that’s whay the righties have such a hardon for him to this day.
HRC would be a little, teeny bit to the left of Bill, but she’s still a playa. Nonetheless, a D is still an apple to an R’s brussels sprout; really got to stretch to compare them.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:08 amSabyen91, you are doing great, man.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:09 ami don’t think K’s that far down the scale, by a longshot
December 15th, 2007 at 1:09 amKeltoi, I fully agree. Hillary might as well be a Republican. I WOULD vote for Obama over her because he is still not as tarnished as she is. But the only progressive credentials he has are in his speeches. His voting record doesn’t jive. I would be a Kucinich voter if I thought it wouldn’t be pointless (come on, have you seen his wife???) I think Edwards is the guy that progs should get behind. He IS electable (at least in the general election). He beats the crap out of any and all Repubs in polls.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:10 amEliminating Saddam Hussein and setting up a U.S. friendly democracy in the middle east is part of a long term strategy to eliminate terrorism, either through understanding, or destruction.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
You forgot the WMDs near Tikrit, somewhere, tool.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:11 amThanks Juan and tom, no, Keltoi certainly isn’t that far down or I wouldn’t have wasted hundreds of words on him.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:11 amI think Bigfoot is unaware that regime change is forbidden by International Laws.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:12 amjustasking, stop being such a dildo and tell me what your problem is.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:12 amjustasking, stop being such a dildo and tell me what your problem is.
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 1:12 am
I was thinking he was being more of a prick. Dildo, huh?
Could be…
December 15th, 2007 at 1:14 amI think Bigfoot is unaware that waterboarding is illegal by US and International laws.
I think Bigfoot is unaware that invading Iraq has spawned more terrorism than ever.
I think Bigfoot is unaware that Bush has NOT captured OBL. I repeat, the man who supposedly brought down the WTC in New York under the admin of Bush has NOT BEEN CAUGHT. Guess, he is brilliant.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:15 ami’ve beaten my head against biggie’s wall of noise enough
when they won’t respond to plain-as-day items honestly, you know it’s time to cut your losses, and save your breath, other than the occasional, well-aimed pin-prick to the old pompous-bubble
taking apart righty reasoning is easy-as-pie – all you need to do is ask them to hold themselves to their own standards, and you’ve pretty well got’em hog-tied, like a 2 year-old razorback sow that’s destined for the smoker.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:16 amand have saved lives.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Another lie.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:17 am“http://pmcarpenter.blogs.com/p_m_carpenters_commentary/2007/12/how-to-screw-up.html”
Read our good friend P.M. You will see why I said what I did. And before you claim somebody is a concern troll you might want to read other things.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:17 amBigfoot has yet not explained his mistake when he said that Ahmadinejad wanted to wipe Israel out of existence. Or as he uses to say: Isreal.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:18 am“OR…maybe you’re just a semi-informed person on the late night thread shift. Either way, you’re not helping, Sabyen.”
OR…you are not as well-informed as you think. Come on. Zooey came to my defense. If that is not proof of my pureness as a prog…I don’t know what is.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:19 amYou know what, justasking? I DO argue with fellow progressives. When I disagree with them. For you to call me a troll just shows me you are very narrowminded.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:22 amjust- what necessitated this whole “get up in sayben’s face” deal, anyway? just asking.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:23 amI think Bigfoot is unaware that regime change is forbidden by International Laws.
Comment by Juan C.
OBigFootInMouth, like his idol George Bush, could care less about International Laws. They don’t apply to them. They are the Kings and they can do whatever they damn well please.
What I fear is that something terrible is going to happen to this country and there will be no one out there willing to help us out. We have alienated pretty much everyone out there.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:23 amComment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 1:19 am
Really? How would you know?
December 15th, 2007 at 1:24 amtom, I believe it was this post.
“These Dems have to go. ‘The legislation also authorizes “more help to troops returning from combatâ€â€˜ By cutting other social programs. It becomes Paygo when it comes to the veterans but it is “emergency funding†when it comes to Iraq. I am tempted to vote Green next year, damn the consequences.”
December 15th, 2007 at 1:25 am“ok…Sabyen. Tell me this. What’s going to happen next with this appropriations bill?”
I would say it goes to Bush and he will be giggling like a schoolgirl for days.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:26 ambenderbee tries jumpin’ me all the goddamned time too – no idea why – never really disagreed with him about anything.
there’s plenty to dispute, that still amount to progress
closing off dispute with incoherence, that’ the righty way, and the only way that should be rejected categorically.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:27 amReally? How would you know?
Comment by Zooey
Hehehe. :D
December 15th, 2007 at 1:28 amjustasking. Give up already. I understand you are embarassed but bulling forward with insults will not help you.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:30 amHehehe. :D
Comment by Juan C. — December 15, 2007 @ 1:28 am
;)
December 15th, 2007 at 1:30 amAnd you might want to stop calling me a troll. I am guessing if you take a vote you are the one who most TP posters would consider the troll.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:31 am*you
December 15th, 2007 at 1:32 amWhat?
December 15th, 2007 at 1:32 amclosing off dispute with incoherence, that’ the righty way, and the only way that should be rejected categorically.
Comment by tombaker
I think Bart has an issue about having the last word, about humiliating the rival, about being attacked. It is sad, cause he is SO funny and spot on sometimes.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:34 amjust –
I get pissed at the D’s too, though I’m usually more quiet about it here, where any little item like that will be transformed by trolls into monkeypoop, to be flung around incoherently.
it would be good to have more discussion like that, but it just wouldn’t be possible here. the folks at kos manage to keep things on-track a litte better, but at the cost of being so big and busy as to be impersonal.
it’s a matter of – we either transform the D’s, or use them as a springboard to a 3rd party. from my pov, transforming is a shorter, straighter line, therefore preferable. heck, look what wackos have managed to do with the gop. i don’t think we should take exactly the same tack (lol), but i think you see my point re: the malleability of a party.
let sayben vent re: the D’s. it’s not like he’s going to find a Nader to vote for next fall. i don’t think anyone’s going to take any chances.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:35 amComment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 1:29 am
Your the one acting like a f_cking concern troll. STFU, idiot.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:37 amtombaker, I wouldn’t vote for Nader anyway :). He was such a hypocrite…railing against big business while owning stock in Occidental Oil. You are right. I would like to do it internally but my district includes Madison, WI. We already have great liberal reps. Voting Green would be stupid.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:38 ami didn’t mean Bart does that – he does what he does, but he doesn’t do the righty thing.
it’s the biggies, et al, who tilt at us with unicorns of rhetoric, that stifle discussion with incoherence.
(viva che!)
just – “concern trolls”, like capt mantastic, annoy me more than i care to tell – i’m feelin’ you all the way on that. there are ways to deal with them, too. sayben ain’t one of’em, far as i can tell.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:40 amNo, justasking, what you are not understanding is that the financing for the f^cking Iraq war is considered emergency while the funds for the veterans are considered budgetary and apparantly paygo (if you need a definition, just google it). Stop being such a moron.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:40 ami was kidding sayben – just trying to come up with a useful example.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:41 amCaptain Mantastic is no concern troll. He is a true righty, dyed in the wool troll. Concern trolls are those that say when we are attacking Israeli policy that “Come on guys, we don’t want to sound anti-semetic or anything. Come on!!!!)
December 15th, 2007 at 1:42 amOh, tom, I was just using your opening to define my position.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:44 am“Come ‘ere…I’ll whisper it to you…now where’s that Dildo?”
Somehow I don’t think you are going to be around long.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:44 amlabels aside, i stand by my statements, and even my defense of you, sabyen (sorry, been typo’ing the hell out of your handle)
December 15th, 2007 at 1:45 aminnyhoo – viva che y’all, and bust it up out there this weekend, wontcha?
December 15th, 2007 at 1:46 amThank you tom. I don’t take offense to people massacreing (sp?) my fake handle.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:46 am…now where’s that Dildo?
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 1:40 am
Up your ass, as usual.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:46 amCome ‘ere…I’ll whisper it to you…now where’s that Dildo?
Comment by justasking
Oh, a sex joke… how original. Ignore.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:47 amUp your ass, as usual.
Comment by Zooey
I was waiting for your answer before I had another drink of water here!!!
Hilarious!!!!
December 15th, 2007 at 1:48 amjustasking, I don’t believe there is any such thing as Bush getting his money back. He asked for money and the Congress gave it to him. I would love to be proved wrong. Maybe I don’t understand how appropriations work. Do you have a link?
December 15th, 2007 at 1:51 amHilarious!!!!
Comment by Juan C. — December 15, 2007 @ 1:48 am
Heh.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:51 am“I’m just trying to stay on topic of the thread. I see nothing nefarious about what ALL democrats are doing. Maybe you’re just tired Sabyen. Maybe you need a nap”
Feeling just fine. I will ignore the insult as long as you respond to my last post.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:52 amLet’s see…who called me a dildo first..hmmm…Sabyen.
nasty.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 1:54 am
Are you excusing yourself?
December 15th, 2007 at 1:57 amThen Zooey said I was more like a “prickâ€. And I told him that I thought he had more class than that. At least during the day threads. But he’s preety quiet then. That might explain that. He doesn’t say much around the real hard hitting intellectuals.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 1:56 am
Thank you for proving you don’t know SHIT.
Dismissed.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:59 am“Let’s see…who called me a dildo first..hmmm…Sabyen.
nasty.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 1:54 am
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Then Zooey said I was more like a “prickâ€. And I told him that I thought he had more class than that. At least during the day threads. But he’s preety quiet then. That might explain that. He doesn’t say much around the real hard hitting intellectuals.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 1:56 am”
Are you kidding? You were being a prick AND a dildo. Now you feel slighted? Grow up.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:59 amI tried being polite and asked for your point of view. You clearly were talking out your ass. So…give me a step by step process. Or shut the hell up and admit you don’t know shit.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:02 amMy point of view is Congress JUST gave Bush $189.4 BILLION. Yours is that it was already Bush’s to do with as he will.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:06 amThis is far less complicated than most people seem to realize.
With rare exception, elected officials in Washington, D.C. place top priority on representing the interests of their most generous campaign contributors, regardless of its impact on their constituents. If and when this occurs, large infusions of corporate cash just prior to the election can fund the necessary advertising blitzkrieg to sway enough voters to keep their sock puppet in office.
And if all else fails, that former congressperson can anticipate a much more lucrative career as a corporate board member or lobbyist. For a politician willing to “play ball” this is a can’t lose proposition, at least for them personally.
For the first time in many years, the Democrats have the wind at their backs with regard to corporate financial support, now receiving more than half of the campaign contributions from almost every corporate category. Their giddy euphoria upon again receiving such generous infusions of campaign money parallels that of a drug addict having suffered withdrawal symptoms for a long time, finally receiving another injection of their preferred drug. The drug pusher/junkie metaphor seems fitting. For information regarding the extent of this transformation, please see http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1007/6359.html
Similarly, defense contractors have purchased the loyalties of the Democratic party, and for the first time since 1994, are giving more than half of their campaign monies to the Dems. Any meaningful reduction in the U. S. presence in Afghanistan and/or Iraq would predictably hurt their corporate bottom lines, with these monies quickly shifting back to Republicans. For a graphic illustration of this concept, please refer to: http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.asp?Ind=D
The advantage for the Dems is that they have moved so far into the territory once held by the Republicans, that the only means for the Republicans to distinguish themselves is by taking positions on the extreme right, a potentially self-destructive strategy.
This would seem to be the Dems strategy, in a nutshell.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:09 amLOL, nice try Bigfoot. You really do believe whatever Rush Limpballs tells you, don’t you?
December 15th, 2007 at 2:10 amGotta love unfettered greed, curmudgeon.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:12 amAnd yes, I am brilliant. Thank you for acknowledging that.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 15, 2007 @ 2:21 am
Yep, about as brilliant as a shiny new penny — and just as valuable.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:23 amCongratulations justasking!!!! So, we win?
December 15th, 2007 at 2:29 amShit, let’s appropriate 5.5 TRILLION since it doesn’t mean anything. That would just be funny!!!
December 15th, 2007 at 2:30 amBERT’s afraid of Hillary.
That’s just too funny. Ralph? Is that you?
December 15th, 2007 at 2:32 amJustasking if you have to remove your head before you stick the dildo up there?
December 15th, 2007 at 2:32 amBy the way, justasking, nobody has to go back to some little sub-committee to get the funds. The Dems just gave the Thugs all the money they need to keep the Iraq war going for the next year. You get that, right?
December 15th, 2007 at 2:34 amBert thinks Bush can steal a third election.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:35 am“Justasking if you have to remove your head before you stick the dildo up there?”
Shayne, I am thinking if the answer is no…I feel sorry for him.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:36 amShayne, I am thinking if the answer is no…I feel sorry for him.
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 2:36 am
Either way t’s kind of a lose lose proposition.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:38 amDid you just tell Shayne to chill out? Is that a joke?
December 15th, 2007 at 2:38 amShayne…I really don’t have one. It was a joke. That was a long time ago. Chill out.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 2:36 am
I knew he didn’t have a head. That explains a lot.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:38 amJustasking, although I wasn’t really, I am thoroughly chilled. Maybe you should take your own advice.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:38 amLOL, yes isn’t a whole lot better, you are right.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:39 amDid you just tell Shayne to chill out? Is that a joke?
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 2:38 am
Hey, I think “justaskingforit” is in charge now. We better behave ourselves.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:39 amHe doesn’t have a head? Perhaps because he gives it away all the time.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:40 amOooh Justasking is using his thesaurus. How does he do that while he’s giving all that head … away.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:42 amHe doesn’t have a head? Perhaps because he gives it away all the time.
Comment by Shayne — December 15, 2007 @ 2:40 am
Heh. On that note, I will leave the concern troll to your tender mercies.
Goodnight!
December 15th, 2007 at 2:42 amjustasking, let me give you a little advice. If you like TP and would like to stick around…don’t be a jerk to other progs. You can get away with it with a lot of righties (if they really are trolls). I am a long-time poster but most people don’t know that because I changed handles but they absolutely realized you were attacking a liberal and it is not ok to do for no reason. I might be wrong. If so, somebody please let me know.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:42 amYou tell him O. Bigtoot. You’re in charge of pure crapola around here. I think justasking is treading on your turf.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:43 amNight Zoo. Thanks.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:43 amOh, justasking…what Shayne said.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:44 amAre you telling Shayne to be quiet? Women don’t take that very well.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:45 amNo Sabyen91 I don’t know who justasking is but he’s acting like a jerk. That’s easy enough to see.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:46 amIt is nice of you to admit that Harry and Nancy are not liberals. And no, we don’t love them. They are bought and paid for by you. Not sure how you can be proud of that.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:47 amOK Bert, which one of your stellar candidates is going to win the election then? The actor, the bible thumper, the mormon? You got us shaking now.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:48 amI don’t either Shayne. You also don’t know who I am. I was JPark awhile ago (pre-registration). So…a long time ago.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:49 amBigfoot, have you ever actually seen a study that says mainstream America is diametrically opposed to liberals? I have seen the opposite. You righties can’t sell an idea without lying.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:51 amZooey is not a he and I am sure she will be flattered. You are not her first stalker.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:51 amThe opinion of 24% of mainstream Americans Bigtool, you’re getting a little carried away with yourself aren’t you.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:51 amI know JPark Zooey let me know. These trolls don’t know that we all know each other. They are just floundering here like they do in real life. Have you visited us at all?
December 15th, 2007 at 2:53 amjustasking, pseudo-intellectual is fine. It is an insult but it is better than being a big sucking vacuum of anti-intelligence. I am truly sorry. I know it isn’t your fault.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:54 amWrong yet again, justasking. He did it for the future of the United States in a strategy that is simply beyond the comprehension of the radical left.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 15, 2007 @ 2:51 am
Oh that is funny Biggoof, I can hardly stop laughing. This is a put on right. Nobody is delusional enough to believe W has done anything for the future of the United States. You must have meant the future of the oil companies, right? Oh you slay me you big joker you.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:55 amO. Bigfoot, tsk, tsk. It is sad what you believe.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:55 amjustasking. Did you just insult my intelligence and then tell me I was “pwned”? You do see the humor in that…right?
December 15th, 2007 at 2:56 am“I’m female Sabyen.”
Sadly, the gender is now tainted.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:57 amOk, I responded to BERT once. Never again. It is pointless to talk to a neanderthal like him.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:58 amProject much justasking? Hey JPark you got pwnd? Funny I’ve never heard an intellectual tell somebody they just got pwnd intellectually or even owned for that matter.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:58 amBigfoot, the awl is barely considered a tool.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:59 amSounds like an oxymoron to me Shayne.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:59 amMaybe that’s why you keep stepping on it Biggoof.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:59 am‘“anti-intellectualâ€?!? You jibe like Hillary.’
What? Doesn’t every liberal use the word? Considering the right is exactly that? I seriously doubt your credentials.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:00 amjustasking, sorry, you weren’t talking to me. I wasn’t your target.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:01 amYeah Bert we kind of lost our tolerance when W stole the second elections. Now we don’t take any prisoners. Better get with the program. Your way behind the curve, but you’re staying in your comfort zone that way. You want tolerance why don’t you go watch O’Reilly, everything I know about tolerance I learned at Fox News.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:03 am“Mainstream America consists of the outright majority, Shayne.”
Check out any generic Republican vs. Dem poll. Republicans are good at lying or they would NEVER win an election.l
December 15th, 2007 at 3:04 amy’all?
December 15th, 2007 at 3:04 amjustasking, where exactly is it intellectual to use the term “pwned”?
December 15th, 2007 at 3:05 amJustasking is tells us she’s a female while she’s calling Zooey a he. Oh the irony.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:05 amOr y’all
December 15th, 2007 at 3:05 amjustasking has a lot of testosterone. That is all I can say.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:07 amy’all are boring when you’re not giving windbag political opinions.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 3:03 am
More irony. And you’re boring when you are giving windbag political opinions. Of course the fact that you cut and paste them from Wikipedia has something to do with the tedius factor.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:07 amI think she’s shaving as we speak.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:08 amThat Halo 3 reference is original, I’ve only seen is used 2 or 3 times tonight.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:09 amNo, anti-intellectual IS a word. Not made up.
According to Websters…
: opposing or hostile to intellectuals or to an intellectual view or approach
You do know how ironic this is right? You, a supposed intellectual claiming anti-intellectual isn’t a word and getting totally pwned? Heh.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:09 amBigAwl, it is still not a compliment. 4 feet long and a quarter of an inch wide. Not really.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:10 amWhen she said you were a bigtool I don’t think she was referring to your member.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:11 amUm, justasking, you deny the existence of the dictionary?
December 15th, 2007 at 3:11 amYou better cut back on the weed justasking. Maybe then you’ll realize how boring you are.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:11 amOr stupid.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:12 amWow justasking got pwned. You better straigten up justasking before you get hurt.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:13 amI think justasking is more boring than stupid but I could be wrong JP. Maybe a 50/50 split.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:14 amI think her (if it isn’t MA) unimpenetrable arrogance is more annoying than boring OR stupid. Yes, justasking unimpenetrable IS a word.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:16 amAnd if you don’t get it unimpenetrable is a joke.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:16 amWho is bashing you for cutting and pasting Wiki? Nobody. You are being bashed for being a jack-ass.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:18 amOh, and who doesn’t know what HE is talking about?
December 15th, 2007 at 3:19 amDid you even read my link? If you think you are still right you are either obstinate, stupid or insane.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:19 amJustasking are you trying to be thick as a brick or does it just come naturally for you? Never mind, nobody really cares.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:21 amYou sound so…born again.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:23 amHere’s a couple of other words you might want to look up justasking; pretentious, pompous and bloviating. I think your picture might be right next to all three of them.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:23 amBy the way, I can be much more vulgar, if you would like.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:23 amShayne, bloviating CAN’T be a word!!!
December 15th, 2007 at 3:24 amBorn again? Boring again?
December 15th, 2007 at 3:24 amI looked it up and say justasking’s picture. Honest.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:25 amDamn, I was wrong. Oops, did I just say a naughty word??? :(
December 15th, 2007 at 3:26 amjustasking, it is late. And still one hundred percent of the liberals here don’t believe you are one or our own.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:27 amIs this your first trip to a liberal blog? Or are you this incompetent on every one.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:29 amI am ok with being vulgar. I am at peace with it.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:29 amAre you born again?
December 15th, 2007 at 3:30 amThat’s right JPark we can be less vulgar but justasking will always be just as boring. Sad really. Good thing this thread is dead anyway otherwise we’d have to flag he/she.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:31 amJPark maybe she likes you, that’s why she went to shave.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:32 amIf the thread was more lively nobody would notice her.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:32 amThat is so flattering!!!
December 15th, 2007 at 3:32 amShayne, aren’t you from Chicago?
December 15th, 2007 at 3:33 am“I was JPark awhile ago … So…a long time ago.”
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 2:49 am
“JPark Kenobi…now that’s a name I haven’t been called in a long long time.”
How the hell are ya, buddy? :)
December 15th, 2007 at 3:33 amIt is a philosophical mindset you don’t seem to be familiar with.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:33 amHey there, Jane! My Brewers have a roider!!! Gagne.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:34 amYou can beat a dead horse but you can’t make it run.
I believe they told just asking if he wanted to be mistaken for a liberal he should act like a pseudo intellectual.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:35 amFlag the twit.
As for the appropriation bill, I don’t care what the twit says. There should be no more funding for any military adventures in the Middle East, or anywhere else in the world, regardless of whether or not it’s “just” an appropriation bill.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:35 amIt is 2:35. I am not going to flag someone that is providing me amusement (ok, I admit, I am not bored).
December 15th, 2007 at 3:36 amYes I’m from Chicago, well not far from Chicago, actually I’m only out in the suburbs but have to go into the city every Saturday for my daughter’s music lesson. And then I have to go back Monday for an appointment. I should move back there.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:37 amGood point, Shayne. Apparantly all libs are supposed to be pseudo intellectuals. That is a very loaded right wing word but she had no idea what an anti-intellectual was (i.e. conservative).
December 15th, 2007 at 3:38 am“I haven’t stated by political affliations if that’s what you mean. Finding out how liberal one is takes a while. Not something you put on your voter registration card.”
Are you stoned? You questioned my progressiveness from the first comment.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:39 amI was watching Gwen Ifill on PBS this evening and there was a guy with a pretty good explanation of why the Democratic majority is having so many problems getting their agenda passed. If it wasn’t so late I could probably remember. TP might have something on it tomorrow though.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:39 amHmm, I have never heard Hillary curse at anybody. And you know I am hot so…
December 15th, 2007 at 3:40 amThat’s right justasking, your an “independent”. Very stereotypical. You can get away with clearing a thread like this one time because nobody cares tonight but next time you will get yourself flagged. FYI.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:41 am“Yes I’m from Chicago, well not far from Chicago, actually I’m only out in the suburbs but have to go into the city every Saturday for my daughter’s music lesson. And then I have to go back Monday for an appointment. I should move back there.”
I know exactly what you mean. I live between Madison and Milwaukee. Anything good and I have to drive an hour.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:41 amI didn’t even know there was a place for “liberal” on a voter registration card. Are you old enough to vote justasking?
December 15th, 2007 at 3:42 amI think here, near Madison there is one :) It is nice.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:43 amComment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 3:34 am
Looks like my Mets had previously had a few, too, at least I heard LoDuca (recently traded to the Nats), plus Todd Hundley and one of my (sigh) old faves, Todd Pratt. But it looks like the 2000 Yankees were chock-full of ‘em.
But I don’t want to go off topic here–the topic apparently being ‘why is justasking acting like a jerk’. I’m kinda curious (and confused) as to what justasking is talking about with the “Zooey…daytime…real intellectuals” bit.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:43 amI can getr in the city in 20 minutes when there’s no traffic, about once a year. Usually it a 90 minute ride unfortunately.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:43 amFortunately my town is ignored when it comes to voting. We have a lot of hillbillies.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:44 amI think justasking is trying to dazzle us with his brilliance, or baffle us with his bullshit, one. What are you doing up so late Jane? Or is it morning time for you already?
December 15th, 2007 at 3:44 amLo Duca seems like he just might be one of the big players.
It started when I challenged her view on the funding bill. I didn’t even challenge her. I just stated what I thought. She then jumped on me and called me a troll. I tried to get clarification…but I was just a troll. It kinda went on from there.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:46 amWe read the thread justasking and Sabyen91 did no such thing. You decided to pick one poster to go after and derail the thread. Don’t think for a minute anybody here believes you had a positive mission. If you want that crap to fly you better go back to the conservative sites.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:47 amWe a;; saw, that’s why she’s incurred so much wrath around here. Apparently she’s the only one who hasn’t noticed.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:48 amI’m off JPark, nice talking to you. Later.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:49 amMaybe you should look up rhetorical in the dictionary.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:49 amNight Shayne. I am about to slap down this lying little lady. Her last post was full of crap.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:50 amAs usual, Shayne, I should be in bed, I’m still recuperating. We got home around 11:00 pm from the party, fed the cats, watched Keith at midnight, then decided to hit the blogs. I was flipping through the comments on this thread, and was real happy to see our old friend JP again! It’s kinda late for you, too, though, isn’t it?
December 15th, 2007 at 3:51 amWhat the? You guys are going to leave me alone with justasking? Thanks! :(
December 15th, 2007 at 3:53 amIt sure is Jane but later for you. We are bad girls.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:55 amSorry, the thread was outta control. I thought I’d impart a little info so there wasn’t so much noise. Sometimes you have to take out the pack leader.
You are lying. I am in no way a leader and I did not claim to be. I said what the hell I felt and that is it.
” You were it. Now things are substantially more quiet. so much so it’s in private chat. where most of this stuff belongs. If I am new to these sites then like others your representation of being a political progressive or liberal was not a good one.”
Now, that is your opinion and it is clear your opinion is not exactly sought out. I have not been here for maybe 6 months and I have a different name. Apparently my progressive representation was a bit more realistic than yours.
I thought you were a paid shill. You act like one by you ofhandedness and vulgarity. Paid shills do that on other sites to disparage the blogs effectiveness and prominence. So it looks ugly to the casual surfer so that won’t get involved. You incite…not foster discussion.
Now, that is just stupid. You wouldn’t know a troll if it hit you in the mouth. Offhandedness and vulgarity? Join the human race. You can’t decide what is ugly to the casual surfer. That is the job of TP. Sure I incite. But you did first. I tried to ask you how I was a troll but you just kept at it. You claim I incite. Fine. You might want to look in the mirror first though.
By the way, this was a very polite response to your post.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:57 amNot leaving, Jane. Just took awhile with my response.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:58 amAre you guys Gints or Jets fans?
December 15th, 2007 at 3:58 amToo polite. You sir are a true gentleman.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:59 amThank you. I am guessing I will get a rude response.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:59 amJustasking, a word of advice, take it as you wish: If you want to correct a misperception, you probably shouldn’t start by shouting “PEOPLE!” And I think it was quite obvious that Sabyen is a liberal, not a troll by any means.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:02 am“I imagine that you could be a lot worse. That’s why I mentioned representation. You’re not a good representation of anyone’s political influence. You’re just a loud mouth. And you’re dry humpin this thread. It’s over. It’s been over.”
Are you joking? If what you say is true it is like scratching an itchy scabbie. Oh, you do know you are the scabbie right? My politeness is gone. You are fair game. Keep posting.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:04 amJets :( I have to be, their name is my full name’s initials.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:05 amI think me being liberal is one of her pet peaves, Jane. She somehow says that I am a loudmouth (she might be right) but she is the one that has drawn the ire of no less than 6 long-time posters.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:06 amjustasking. I am pretty sure I don’t care who you think has insight. I would rather not be like mighty aphrodite. Thanks, though.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:07 amWhat conservatives don’t understand is we don’t need a church to be a community. You are the outsider justasking. And we don’t take kindly to outsiders being rude to one of our own. Get it? Do you? I don’t think you see the big picture here.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:08 amWhile I feel sorry for you, Jane…at least you don’t root for that bunch of whiners that share the stadium with you.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:08 amNobody really cares what you “need” jackass. Or what you want, or think or feel for that matter.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:09 am“Don’t need your advice, Jane. Thanks.”
Wow, you have some balls on you. At least you don’t care what people think about you. I can respect that. That said…you are kind of a sh!thead.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:10 am“You’re not a good representation of anyone’s political influence. You’re just a loud mouth. And you’re dry humpin this thread.”
You’re not exactly the best example of “How to Win Friends and Influence People.” And, talking about dry humping, I’ll borrow from Zooey: you’re the one with the dildo.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:12 amYou know what? With your attitude you will never be in any kind of club. Whether it is the freaking letterman’s club in high school or that club where you actually have a friend.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:12 amDon’t bother, Jane. Kindness is lost on this one.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:13 amI really do feel sorry for you justasking. Maybe you don’t want friends?
December 15th, 2007 at 4:14 amFine, somebody more sympathetic than I will give it a shot some day.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:17 amComment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 4:12 am
Hair Club for Men? (I didn’t notice if justasking has mentioned its gender – or species, for that matter.)
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Kindness is lost on this one.
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 4:13 am
You know me, I’m a sucker for lost causes – hence my team affiliations.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:18 amLOL, the Mets have a lot of money. I am starting to feel really sorry for her. I can’t imagine what has made her so bitter (guessing she will say me).
December 15th, 2007 at 4:19 amWell, you are right!!! Here you go…here is the habeus corpus!!! Every freaking poster (that is not a troll) is for habeus corpus…but you decide to fight us instead of join us. I don’t get it.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:21 amYou can always go for that habeus corpus on your own, though. Good luck with that.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:22 amBy the way, Jane and her husband Wayne are a couple of the kindest people in the world. You insult them with your attitude. They WILL forgive you for it. I just hope you can forgive yourself.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:25 amCongratulations. You still have no friends. Sad.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:28 amI hope you get paid by the post.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:29 amJustasking sure verified her troll status. Thanks for letting us know we were right the whole time, jackass.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:32 amI must have trollovision or something.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:33 amHey, hopefully I made her rich. That was a pretty pointless night for the right.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:34 amThanks for the help Shayne. It is nice to know that others will back me up (yeah, I know she was really out there but still).
December 15th, 2007 at 4:37 amI don’t feel good about it though. I think she needed a friend. But she didn’t seem to want one.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:39 am345 comments! I think it’s a record.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 4:25 am
Not even close, I’m afraid. We had a thread that had more than 4,600 comments.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:40 amBoy, I am glad I wasn’t part of that one!!!
December 15th, 2007 at 4:41 amIt has been awhile, Wayne. How are you? What is your url again?
December 15th, 2007 at 4:42 amBy the way, I am a big Jets fan this week. J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets!!!!
December 15th, 2007 at 4:43 am4667, to be precise. JP, you should be VERY thankful that you were’nt part of that one. I was in it for a while, but it was one that effing Drudge sent its minions to disrupt. That was where every other comment a troll name-jacking. Totally f-d up.
And thanks for the compliments earlier. I’ve missed our discussions, friend.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:46 am“Do you people realize you’ve made me an overnight sensation. 345 comments! I think it’s a record. Wait until the big dogs wake up and see this comment box! I did it again! I’m a genius!”
Am I really as stupid as I think I am right now? I felt sorry for her (or him, whatever).
December 15th, 2007 at 4:46 amUgh, Drudge is such a scumbag. Should have hired Gannon. Drudge would have been too busy.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:47 amAm I really as stupid as I think I am right now? I felt sorry for her (or him, whatever).
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 4:46 am
Nah, you’re just tired, maybe?
December 15th, 2007 at 4:48 amI have been jumping around lately and reading a lot of different stuff. A lot of them refer to TP. TP is bigtime.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:49 amNo, I am just too soft.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:49 amI also tend to feel protective of women for some stupid reason. Or perhaps an evolutionary reason.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:50 amExcept for this week while I’ve been home sick, I have disciplined myself to limiting my blogging time to weekends, and even then mostly just nights. BTW, my name still links to Wayne’s site, but Wayne’s goes, well, I’ll just say ‘elsewhere.’
December 15th, 2007 at 4:56 amWell, I never!!! Wayne is all over the place? I will click on you and see what is going on. Now, you guys don’t like Ron Paul, do you?
December 15th, 2007 at 4:59 amGreat.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:02 amHmmm, did justasking leave in disappointment after we disabused her/it of the notion that she/it had made TP history? No genius, no pitiful claim to fame.
Even if I didn’t know about that nearly-5000-comment thread, we’ve had others over 700 before–I remember a couple of times when we were deliberately contesting who was going to be, say, the 500th commenter, then aim for the next milestone, etc.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:04 amNope, she crashed.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:05 amI don’t understand how posts take up virtual memory though. It is not saved in my cache.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:06 amSo, justasking, why would I care what Obama is saying? He is a Liebermanite. Yeah, I will pass on the Obamatrain.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:08 amOops, spoke too soon. Or, typed too slowly.
Ron Paul? Only to a certain degree. I prefer Kucinich, he adheres most closely to the Constitution. Unfortunately, the media is apparently too confused by so many candidates, so they only focus on the “top tier.”
But ya gotta love the way the rest of the country is finally learning about the real Rudy, right? :)
December 15th, 2007 at 5:08 amOh, I am up to 8. And counting.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:09 amKucinich is the best. Please don’t buy the Ron Paul BS. Dig deeper.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:09 amComment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 4:59 am
Well, according to tests I’ve taken (and comments I’ve seen that I can agree with), I am a Liberal Libertarian. There are some aspects of Ron paul’s message that i like, but the ones I like seem to be duplicated by Dennis Kucinich (out of NAFTA, restore constitutional government). But I also feel that both the Democratic and Republican parties are responsible for the royal screwing Americans have been given buy Corporate America, so I am more than happy to see neither party controlling a majority of either House. I would love to see enough third party candidates (from any party gain enough seats so that coalition-building would be needed to get laws passed. I’m tired of the either-or crap they force upon us because they want only themselves to bein power. That’s why I started my “Give ‘em the Bird, Vote For a Third!” campain on my blog. ANd I have to say, that after several months, I can re-port that it has gone largely ignored.
As a result of that 4000+ thread, several of us started the blog I link to in my posts here (it’s a wordpress blog, so it makes it easier). Jane still posts to our blog (it’s hers, too).
December 15th, 2007 at 5:10 amYeah, we always knew Giuliani was a philandering pig. Now the whole country gets to learn!!
December 15th, 2007 at 5:10 amNope, she crashed.
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 5:05 am
I almost did, too (well, my computer) searching for that record-comment thread. In fact, I think my computer’s still trying to ‘get it up’ in another window.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:11 amI respect that, Wayne. I disagree but I respect it. I am going to try to get folks to vote for a guy a believe in…John Edwards. I would be a Kucinich guy but he won’t be elected (for stupid reasons). Edwards is a long-shot with all the DLC scum around but he is the guy who can slaughter any Republican that comes along.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:14 amJustasking, who is YOUR candidate?
December 15th, 2007 at 5:15 am“Your cache is not virtual memory.”
Then you know more about computers (that isn’t surprising).
December 15th, 2007 at 5:16 amComment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 5:10 am
And Giuliani’s a blatant liar. He claims that his was one of the most transparent administrations in NYC history, and yet he was having questionable security expenses for his secret mistress billed to obscure government agencies, where they would be harder to find through FOIA requests. Transparent government my ass. And his security consulting business not only did business with people our government says are bad guys, but he collected some money consulting for the company that did some of the illegal wiretapping that went on. So he’s definitely scum. Why he enjoys any support among Republican voters is a mystery to me.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:16 amI don’t know Wayne. He is almost a liberal in some ways. I never believed he would get the Repub nomination and Huckabee’s rising is proof. The thing is, I think Giuliani is the only guy that can beat any of the Dems.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:18 amjustasking, I am now a racist pig?
December 15th, 2007 at 5:20 amBy the way, I don’t think Richards thought he was funny. He was out of control and nuts.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:21 amIf I am racist, show some evidence.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:22 amComment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 5:18 am
One of the things I dislike about the whole election discussion is the idea that people should vote not for the candidate who best represents their views, but for the candidate that can win. As I see it, this is simply encouraging people to abandon their principles and try, instead, “to win”, as if winning is the most important thing. When you abandon your principles to vote for someone the media is telling you is the only one that can win (and they are the ones saying that, not necessarily the voters, and I think political opinion polls are bullsh!t, but that’s another story), then you are not voting for your candidate but someone else’s. That’s not Democracy. You should vote for the candidate YOU want, not for the candidate THEY say you should want.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:25 amDon’t worry, we’re not “buy”ing Ron Paul. I really wish that Kucinich would be taken more seriously by the media. I registered on the Des Moined Register and laced into them for excluding him in the last Democratic debate. A lot of people were pissed off by that move.
Can I possibly hope that justasking’s “HAHA!” is in recognition of Wayne’s self-deprecating humor? Or is it in mean-spiritedness at the typos?
December 15th, 2007 at 5:26 amEdwards HEDGE FUND was responsible for the closing of Whirlpool/Maytag plants??? Are you kidding? A hedge fund???? Wow.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:26 am“One of the things I dislike about the whole election discussion is the idea that people should vote not for the candidate who best represents their views, but for the candidate that can win.”
I agree but that is the way it has always been. And this year is much better than most. I really do like Edwards.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:28 am“Don’t worry, we’re not “buyâ€ing Ron Paul.”
I am glad. The guy is nuts. He has one good idea. The rest of them…not so much.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:29 am“Didn’t imply that you were racist. Other “icst†maybe. I just said you think you’re funny. And outta control and nuts.”
Well, I am not sure what other ist you could imply I am when you compare me to Michael Richards.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:30 amI agree but that is the way it has always been.
But that doesn’t mean we have to keep playing into the Corporate-controlled media’s hands and continue doing what they say we should. It’s the media that told us people like Kucinich, Gravel, Paul were “not viable candidates”. It was the media who told us that no one suppoorted them. It’s the media that refuses to ask these voters if they support impeaching the vice president or president. And then these supposed poll results become self-fulfilling prophecies. People get told that these less-known guys aren’t worth it, so people drop their support for them. If the media would stop reporting daily poll results from uninformed voters, and just reported what the candidates said in their speeches, the “lower-tier” (media framing) candidates would probably do a lot better come caucus and primary day.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:35 amWho said I didn’t understand it? I chose to talk about Giuliani. You have an interesting sense of humor.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:35 amWayne, I have to say it is tough to feel I have to do something when I have Baldwin and Feingold representing me. I know it is unfair but I have great reps.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:36 amOk, justasking. Glad you are amused.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:37 amI really do like Edwards, too, and would certainly not be sorry if he won the nomination. A bunch of polls that, I believe, Chris Matthews showed the other day indicated that Edwards was favored vs any of the Republican front-runners. I was surprised and pleased to see that.
I like Obama, he is very charismatic and inspiring, and it would be a slap in the face the old-white-boy club and to the racists out there.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:37 amWhat is your problem justasking? Do you NEED attention?
December 15th, 2007 at 5:38 amI don’t like Obama one bit. I haven’t since he supported Traitor Joe Lieberman.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:39 amI have seen the polls, Jane. Edwards kicks all Republicans asses. Neither Hillary nor Obama do. What is wrong with Dems. Why would they vote for Hillary and Obama over Edwards when he would win by such large margins? I doubt his lead means he is taking away Republican votes.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:43 amConsidering my name is in every one of your posts…yeah, I think everything you say is about me.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:44 amComment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 5:39 am
You mean by not bothering to vote on the Kyl-Lieberman resolution? I see your point. That resolution is also one of several reasons that Hillary is not even under consideration by me.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:45 amNo, Jane. Obama was Lieberman’s protege. Obama endorsed Lieberman for Senate over the Democrat.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:47 amCongratulations!!! You must be raking in the dough!!!
December 15th, 2007 at 5:49 amSure, justasking.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:51 amI don’t have a blog. Why are you still here?
December 15th, 2007 at 5:52 amYou do know that blogs are kind of social, right? Because you don’t seem very social. Just saying.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:54 amI just SAID that he thought he was being funny the same as you do but you both come off as not witty but just plain vulgar. You thought your own vulgarity was funny and the rest of the world that reads this post and know you have a political blog that you’re trying to run. We see your true nature. It’s nasty.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 5:34 am
Your ambiguous use of pronouns makes it difficult to tell exactly who you’re addressing. Does “you both” refer to Sabyen and me, to Sabyen and Wayne, or to me and Wayne? If your comment started as a response to Sabyen, then switched to referring to Wayne (”you have a political blog that you’re trying to run”), perhaps you should have made it more clear.
However, I think it’s quite clear that you’re talking to yourself using the ‘royal’ “we” when you said “We see your true nature. It’s nasty.”
December 15th, 2007 at 5:57 amOk. Blogs are NOT social. TP kinda is or haven’t you noticed.
December 15th, 2007 at 5:58 amI think she meant I am both not witty and vulgar. I was hoping for witty and vulgar but not everybody likes my sense of humor. C’est la vie.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:01 amThen again she might have been calling you a bore as well. I can’t tell.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:02 amOk. Blogs are NOT social. TP kinda is or haven’t you noticed.
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 5:58 am
Of course they are, Sabyen91. In fact, I feel I made some very good friends on the blog we created (see my link), and have gotten closer to them since we did. And we all met on this particular blog. We have lively discussions on our blog. Don’t let anyone talk you out of a correct observation so easily. :)
December 15th, 2007 at 6:02 amYou do know when people are actually responding to each other…social. Yeah. Sorry. And if you don’t like people talking about vacations and the Mets…you might want to leave. And if you don’t like talk about the Packers you might REALLY want to leave.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:03 amLOL, Wayne, I am not easily swayed. I have a good 10 point sarcasm meter that I peg out every day though :)
December 15th, 2007 at 6:04 amOk, justasking, others don’t seem to mind. Only you. If you don’t like it you are free to leave.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:06 amWhat is funny is that I only occasionally post. And you are now making me some kind of TP star. It is a joke. You are extremely delusional.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:08 amHere I thought blogs were journals, newsletters, mini mags, rags, underground voice boxes. Didn’t know they were social…like to talk about vacations and the Mets.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 6:01 am
Nor are blogs just forums for you to display your boorishness in as many comments as possible. You may have noticed that we were having a fine discussion about politics in your (welcome) absence. Besides, there are other blogs that you can visit that stay more strictly on-topic, I suggest DailyKos, why don’t you go ahead and take a look? Oh, that’s right, you don’t need any advice from the likes of me.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:09 amWayne, I already clicked on your wife and added it to my favorites. She told me your link goes to other things. And she is right :)
December 15th, 2007 at 6:09 amHey, Sabyen91, congrats on the Packers. I’ll reserve comments on how they’ll fare against the NY Giants until the Giants actually clinch that playoff spot which, hopefully, will be this Sunday. Jane and I are Jets fans first, but when they start losing badly, we start rooting for the Giants. That was around week 4 or 5 this season.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:10 amUnless the Giants get to the NFC championship game they won’t play (the Pack beat those whiners in the second game of the season). Shockey, Toomer…ugh, they like crying. Sorry :) I really didn’t like the way they acted in the game. I am really rooting for the Jets. I despise the Pats (and their fans).
December 15th, 2007 at 6:12 amAgain, I don’t have a blog. You assume a lot of things but you are always wrong. Doesn’t that ever bother you?
December 15th, 2007 at 6:14 amjustasking. You should probably take it. You would make less of an ass of yourself. Jane has a good heart and you spit on her.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:18 amI despise the Pats (and their fans).
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 6:12 am
Join the club! I loved it when they said the opening line onthe game was 27 points for the Pats, but could go lower if field conditions are expected to be bad (which they now are). So it went down to 24! If the Jets can’t lose by less than 24 points, they should go ahead and fire the head coach. I figure losing by less than 10 would bne cause for celebration, since the Pats like to blow out their opponents early (and often.)
What I don’t understand is why when they were caught cheating (and they were cheating), they didn’t have to forfeit that game. It might have had a severe impact on both their seasons. Instead they pay big fines (Bellichek can afford his, I’m sure) and a lose a draft pick, but they get to keep the win! That’s simply rewarding bad behavior, since the win was unfairly gained.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:19 amUmm, never had a blog, never had the urge.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:19 amWayne, the Packers complained LAST year about it and nobody did anything. They have been cheating forever.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:20 amWhat really sucks is the keep their highest draft choice. They are going to get Darren McFadden because the Niners stink.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:22 amComment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 6:11 am
While you may know every detail of every vote in the Senate (and I’m not saying that you don’t), apparently reading comprehension isn’t your strong suite. Sabyen does NOT have a blog and he specifically TOLD you he doesn’t have a blog. WAYNE has a blog. If you must carry on about someone’s blog, please at least remember whose it is.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:22 amOk, justasking. Snottiness doesn’t count on the net.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:23 amIt was metaphorical. And you really need to grow up. It is f^cking 5:25 in the morning. I think Wayne and I can talk about football if we feel about it without having a half-retarded troll bothering us. I might be wrong though.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:26 amTo tell you the truth, S91, I don’t follow follow football to that level. When the Mets are doing well, I don’t even pay attention to football. Unfortunately for me, I stuck with them to the last game. So by the time I turned my attention to the Jets, the Giants had started winning again (after their own bad start), so I rooted for them. And the season is too short and my interest too little for me to bother paying attention to all the behind-the-scenes stuff. I don’t usually watch the pre-game shows, and I either blog or watch Wolf Blitzed ask foolish questions.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:27 amI am a more of a football guy than a baseball guy. I will follow the Crew this year but the Packers are my #1.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:29 amAnd you are not “sweet”. What is your point? Do you just want to be a d!ck? I think so.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:30 amYou are like a mosquito. You keep annoying. You get swatted once in awhile but you keep coming back and…well…you suck.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:32 amNo, it does not make it redundant. If I repeated it it would be redundant. You really don’t get the English language, do you?
December 15th, 2007 at 6:33 am“Jane’s turn sleeping.”
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 6:24 am
Nope. Just wondering why you’re still trying to be polite to me while you’re insulting Wayne. I also prefer to take the time to think about what I want to say and to try to choose my words carefully.
Now Wayne tells me that you’re picking on one of two typos that I’ve made in, what, 3 hours? Have some charity, I’ve been up all night.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:34 amBlame it on me, Jane. I have turned this sweet, demure girl into a evil demon. Or you could be realistic and realize this girl is bitter and hateful.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:36 amReport away, skank. You will never get the effect you want. :)
December 15th, 2007 at 6:37 amThe funny thing is I don’t even have to report you because you will never be welcome at TP with your incredible performance today.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:38 amUmm, spit on=disrespected. Hard to understand?
December 15th, 2007 at 6:40 amNah…I just like to see you keep blowing your top so I can report each instance of abuse.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 6:35 am
If you consider any of Sabyen’s responses to you as “blowing [his] top” or “abuse”, then all I can say is you haven’t been around blogs much, and you particularly haven’t been around some of the right-wing blogs–nasty, nasty stuff on those.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:42 amWhat mistake did Jane make? And how is it ironic? Warning: I am guessing I will rip you for whatever stupid answer you give.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:43 amI don’t feel the need to be charming to you, justasking. I am polite to most people out of respect. You don’t deserve that respect.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:44 amGood point, Jane. I have been pretty mild compared to the right. I have also been pretty mild compared to the worst I can get. This little girl isn’t worth my worst shot, though.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:46 amComment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 6:39 am
If I were criticizing your spelling, that would have made my typo (yes, of course I know how to spell “suit”) ironic. I do make typos, we all do, but I usually catch them right away and correct them.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:48 amjustasking, your little red flag doesn’t scare anybody. Nobody has done anything wrong, not even me. You have come back over and over and over. I think you like abuse.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:49 am“Or syhould I say the administrator. Either way, even if they don’t totally ban his name…it brings attention to his posts. Doesn’t look good when you’re trying to impress Faiz and stuff.”
I am not trying to impress anyone. syhould I try? Nobody is going to ban me for what I have said. You might get banned though for being a waste of time.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:52 amOk, justasking, flat is something I worry about.
December 15th, 2007 at 6:52 amYou do realize your idiotic reporting is going to get you banned right? Not that you care. Nobody likes you anyway.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:00 amComment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 6:47 am
Can I ask, in all seriousness, how long you have been reading TP? Until they started registration, they might as well have not had an administrator. Abusive comments (including death threats against commenters), racist comments, name-hijackings, etc., all got through and stayed up despite protests emailed to the administrator. I am pretty positive that no one else who read these last couple of hours of posts would consider any of Sabyen’s comments to you abusive.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:00 amI have perfect pitch. I don’t know flat.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:01 amJane, doesn’t mean she doesn’t have a persecution complex. It might be sad if it is true.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:03 am“We might make 500.”
Is that admission that you are a troll?
December 15th, 2007 at 7:04 am“Buy Congress A Backbone”. I like that idea… a LOT. Good way to get the message across maybe? If we could find a CHEAP (inexpensive) plastic spine (the kind used for anatomy classes), we could order in-bulk and each mail one to our reps and senators.
Imagine thousands of backbones showing up at their offices… it may be effective.
I wonder if MoveOn dot org could pick up on this idea? We should do it.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:04 amJane, don’t bother. She is an troll and should be treated as such.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:06 amIronic that you originally called ME a troll, eh, justasking?
December 15th, 2007 at 7:07 amComment by roolark — December 15, 2007 @ 7:04 am
If I may be so crude, it might be cheaper if we all just send each member of Congress a pair of blue-colored balls. The campaign could be “Buy Congress a Set.”
December 15th, 2007 at 7:08 amJane, not blue. That means they actually feel something.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:09 amOk, folks, let’s make this the last comment of the night for this post.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:10 amWhat a bunch of pμssies.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:11 amUnless you have something nasty to say about justasking. I would love to make her famous, for being an empty headed bimbo.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:12 amAww, you got 500 yourself. I don’t think that counts. Maybe you could send me YOUR pair, dude.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:15 amNo, Jane. You cannot ask. But thanks again anyway.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 7:05 am
Well, actually, I can (and did) ask, but you certainly have the right not to answer.
Well, it’s been a long night, and I have to get some sleep. Sabyen, it’s been great talking to you again. Please stop by to see us any time. :) Goodnight!
December 15th, 2007 at 7:18 amNight Jane, I certainly will.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:20 amGood night (morning?) Sabyen91. Enjoy your weekend, and try not to think about the ignorant people we see post here. Especially the ones who display terrible reading comprehension. Not worth your frustration.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:20 amWho would you shake hands with, justasking? Your invisible friend? You don’t have any real ones.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:21 amI am not frustrated. I am amused. Have a good night Wayne.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:22 amComment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 7:12 am
Hmmm, according to my computer, your 7:12 am post is #500. ‘Night!
December 15th, 2007 at 7:22 amLOL, not kidding? Sweet :) Night you two.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:23 amYour projection is embarassing. Get a training bra.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:24 amTime for bed. Congratulations on 500 justasking…your life is complete.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:27 amPresident Bush’s success rating in the Democratic-controlled House has fallen this year to a half-century low, and he prevailed on only 14 percent of the 76 roll call votes on which he took a clear position.
“So far this year, Democrats have backed the majority position of their caucus 91 percent of the time on average on such votes. That marks the highest Democratic unity score in 51 years.”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1728952&mesg_id=1728952
http://public.cq.com/docs/cqt/news110-000002576765.html
Don’t let the media rhetoric fool you. The Democrats have acquitted themselves quite well–especially given their bare majority in both houses, and a relentlessly obstructionist Republican minority.
December 15th, 2007 at 7:50 amWar machine is the most expensive one.It takes billions to keep it going.
I thought past experiences like Viet Nam war might have taught the Congress something,but here we are again caught by the same war trap.
This time it is in a different part of the world, with different reasons given..but the lives lost and dollars spending are , as always in every war, remain the same.
Pelosi and co. promised to press the brake pedal on war spending after their big victory last year,with slogans like ‘No blank checks for war’…we also hear a lot about coming ‘benchmarks’.
But Bush is now getting double the amount of dollars he was getting before the elections.
December 15th, 2007 at 8:00 amAll promises went in smoke and Pelosi,as a new Speaker, proved to be just another big talking politician.
Anyone here notice that the Dems did this at the end of a news cycle. No one will even know about this until Sunday, when the news is 2 days old.
I would like to congratulate the Dem Congress on a good energy bill, increasing CAFE standards, in cooperation with the UAW and the big 3 US automakers. I am confident, with that type of good policy making, they will be able to revisit the domestic energy production portion of the bill that failed to pass, sit down with congressional representatives from each state, and determine what works for all states.
Good job Congress, you are now working on America’s future.
December 15th, 2007 at 8:26 am516… Jason. Yes–I see what they did. The Dems have learned their lessons well from their masters. The journey to the Dark Side is now complete.
December 15th, 2007 at 8:55 ammy two cents… are being used now to sharpen the teeth on my pitchfork.
December 15th, 2007 at 9:32 amIS THERE A GOOD NETWORKING FORUM FOR US TO ORGANIZE OUR MOTIONS? ie TP user forum?
Put pelosi on the table.
Thought I’d try to repost this, since when I did so last night, it seems that I interrupted a personal chat room discussion:
This is far less complicated than most people seem to realize.
With rare exception, elected officials in Washington, D.C. place top priority on representing the interests of their most generous campaign contributors, regardless of its impact on their constituents. If and when this occurs, large infusions of corporate cash just prior to the election can fund the necessary advertising blitzkrieg to sway enough voters to keep their sock puppet in office.
And if all else fails, that former congressperson can anticipate a much more lucrative career as a corporate board member or lobbyist. For a politician willing to “play ball†this is a can’t lose proposition, at least for them personally.
For the first time in many years, the Democrats have the wind at their backs with regard to corporate financial support, now receiving more than half of the campaign contributions from almost every corporate category. Their giddy euphoria upon again receiving such generous infusions of campaign money parallels that of a drug addict having suffered withdrawal symptoms for a long time, finally receiving another injection of their preferred drug. The drug pusher/junkie metaphor seems fitting. For information regarding the extent of this transformation, please see http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1007/6359.html
Similarly, defense contractors have purchased the loyalties of the Democratic party, and for the first time since 1994, are giving more than half of their campaign monies to the Dems. Any meaningful reduction in the U. S. presence in Afghanistan and/or Iraq would predictably hurt their corporate bottom lines, with these monies quickly shifting back to Republicans. For a graphic illustration of this concept, please refer to: http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.asp?Ind=D
The advantage for the Dems is that they have moved so far into the territory once held by the Republicans, that the only means for the Republicans to distinguish themselves is by taking positions on the extreme right, a potentially self-destructive strategy.
This would seem to be the Dems strategy, in a nutshell.
Comment by curmudgeon — December 15, 2007 @ 2:09 am
The following quote by Ralph Nader in 2000 explains it all…
“The only difference between Bush and Gore is the velocity with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock at the door.”
December 15th, 2007 at 10:42 amDear Sir.
December 15th, 2007 at 11:29 amI will tell you this much; the disgraceful, cowardly actions and in-actions of Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein and the rest of the spineless Democrats makes them all enablers to the insane policies and idealogies of Bush and the Rest of the Republicans. They have a lions share of the guilt and the blame, their hands are just as bloody. To vote for any Democrats now is to declare oneself an enabler as well. There is no “good” choice. There is no “lesser of two evils”. They are one and the same.
I refuse to share in the guilt. I refuse to share the shame. The Democratic “leadership” has proven that we are powerless. Therefore, other than expressing this opinion to all, I will not participate in the ‘08 “elections”.
Thanks for nothing.
The Dems disappoint again! Make the Repugs pay for their damned war of Bush family revenge. Where are the Greens?
December 15th, 2007 at 11:33 am(sigh)
I really hope that members of the Democrat party are reading this.
After being a registered independent my entire adult life, I joined the Democrat party out of disgust for the way this country is being run and my desire to see things change. I’m not alone in that. I personally know several Republicans who feel that Republican party is NOT a conservative party but a Radical Right Wing party that does not represent their values.
Apparently, at least to an extent, the Electorate agreed with me.
The Democrats came to power with the electorate expecting change. They weren’t voted in to be a continuing rubber stamp to this administration.So far, every single time this administration wants something, regardless of how the public wants change, the Democrats give in without fail.
Why is Sen. Reid even bothering to block Recess Appointments? As I write this, Sen. Reid has expressed his intent to bring a bill to the floor granting Telecoms retroactive Immunity.
The Democrats are in a position to expose the Republican Party as the obstructionists in moving the Nation forward, but they refuse every time.
If the Democrat Party really want change, It’s Way Past time to exercise Political Backbone and force issues.
December 15th, 2007 at 11:43 amIf tier not willing to truly take a stand, then they just continue to be a Rubber Stamp to this administration.
WOW!
December 15th, 2007 at 11:54 amSo Bush IS a dictator, isn’t he?
He has the power to get whatever he wants, disregarding the law and the Congress.
I am so ashamed that the elected Dems are just a bunch of cowards. And worse, it seems that they are the only option we have…
If Blair is a Poodle the democrats are a bunch of puppies
December 15th, 2007 at 12:01 pm# 87 O.Bigfoot, (should read Bigmouth, no research capability) Before you comment so authoritatively, you should be sure that the US CIA waterboards in the fashion you think, and how do you know that the CIA has not killed several waterboarded prisoners? You don’t because you have no facts, because your gommit will not give out any. Not that they should, under the circumstances.
And I will not take the time or energy to comment at length about your idiotic view of the “war” in Iraq. You need to read up on guerilla warfare and insurrections and get back to us all. Such a simplistic view after all the evidence since Mar 2003 is inexcusable.
Please note that I have refrained from calling you a name appropo your intelligence, though it was difficult.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:19 pm# 525 HighPlainsJoker, That’s exactly the problem. This administration does not want any Oversight or accountability.
Apparently, by rolling over each and every time, The Democrats agree.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:25 pmWow. I’m sorry that most of this thread has turned out to be pure spam, courtesy of mock progressive, ‘justasking.’
December 15th, 2007 at 12:31 pmIf the Democrat Party really want change, It’s Way Past time to exercise Political Backbone and force issues.
Comment by S.D
Please do not contribute to the Republiscum’s insults to the Democrats. It is the “Democratic” party, not the “Democrat” party. You are a “Democrat” and a member of the “Democratic” party.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:44 pmAll you need to know to understand politics in the United States today is that money rules, and the large corporations call the shots no matter who is in power.
Unfortunately, this has left the Democratic party with two choices, both of which carry significant drawbacks:
1) They can be right on the issues, represent the wishes of the common people, see corporate campaign contributions disappear altogether, and return to a state of even greater insignificance as a completely neutered minority party.
2) They can sell out to their corporate masters, and, to the extent that any sense of decency remains, satisfy their benefactors, but at the same soften the adverse impact upon the common people to the extent that it does not offend those whose contributions are vital for their continued existence.
As long as corporate money rules, no meaningful change is possible. Until enough people demand that corporate money and influence be removed from the political equation, expect little, if any, departure from the status quo.
The power of the theocorpotocracy in this country cannot be underestimated. I define this term, which I cannot find in the dictionary as: the three-legged stool, the unholy alliance upon which power in this country rests — fundamentalist churches to deliver the votes, corporations to provide the money, and bought politicians who continue to curry the favor of the churches and corporations.
Should more citizens of this country eventually clamor for such changes, be assured that the theocorpotocracy in this country will not go down without a fight, the likes of which has not been witnessed in this country since the Civil War.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:51 pmbilbobaggins, A typo on my part, but the point is, I’m still a a member of the Democratic party and very disappointed.
I don’t know, Maybe the Democratic Party members in Congress and the Senate are afraid of looking “Weak” on “Terror”.
At the end of the day, IMO, our Nation is still going in the wrong direction.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:30 pm#67. Again…This was only an appropriations bill. Relax!
Breathe. Everything’s fine. Just a little histronics from the articles short explanation of the legislative process. Read the links.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 12:37 am
I only read up to comment #154, but I have to say ‘justasking’ is making some good points (minus the personal attacks). I think we have to realize this is not easy with the slim majority we have in congress. Congress seems to be dangling small bites with small conditions in every bite. So while it appears we are giving bush what he wants, we’re not. While I understand the want to defund the war entirely, congress doesn’t agree and doesn’t have the votes to do it.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:38 pmCurmudgeon, a thumbs up for your thought-provoking post. Theocorpotocracy. I like that word…though I might realign it to ‘theocorporocracy’ myself…and yes. Fundamentalist Churches funded by Big Business in order to deliver the votes for the corrupted mouthpieces in DC. Sums our government up nicely.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:04 pmNext Fall changes All.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:17 pmDon’t know what the Democratic leadership’s strategy is. but the money hasn’t been given yet—just “promised”. From NYT today:
“The Senate on Friday passed a defense policy bill for the 2008 budget year. It authorizes $696 billion in military spending, including $189 billion for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But it does not actually send any money to the Pentagon.”
Bush was complaining on the radio today that the money was not actually sent.
I agree with only Kucinich among all the candidates. Not one more penny for the war! It is counterproductive and we don’t have the money.
Looks like Sabyen and justasking really did not understand one another. Neither is a rightie nor a troll—sympathetic or otherwise.
December 15th, 2007 at 4:13 pmWow, it seems to have worked. I watched FNS and Chris Matthews, and NONE of them even mentioned Congress passing war funding. It was covered Saturday, then dropped by Sunday.
Actually, “progressives” do have a choice. This year, then can again run “progressives” against the Clintonista candidates in the primaries, to improve their “mix” within the Dem congress.
December 16th, 2007 at 10:56 amA question for libs – why don’t you push for a new Senate Majority Leader? Dianne Feinstein strikes me as a Senator smart enough to take yes for an answer, and not plan Quixotic strategies. Pelosi seems to capitulate late, but not TOO late like Reid, and you can claim having the first woman Senate Majority Leader in history – then you can run on Pelosi, Feinstein and Clinton as a trifecta.
Honestly, I said long ago that Hill’reh’s best move was to shoot for Senate Majority Leader, but she just wouldn’t settle for anything less than President – her loss, Feinstein’s gain.
December 16th, 2007 at 5:30 pm