Congress sends war funding bill to Bush.
Congress passed the defense authorization bill Friday, “sending President Bush a defense bill requiring no change in strategy” in Iraq and “another $189.4 billion for the Iraq and Afghan wars.” The legislation also authorizes “more help to troops returning from combat and set conditions on contractors and pricey weapons programs” as well as a 3.5 percent pay raise for service members. Bush is expected to sign the legislation into law.
Sort Comments By: Top Rated | Date
WTF? When we finally store the capital with torches and pirchfors the Dems will not be spared either.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:10 pmahem - storm
December 14th, 2007 at 10:11 pmI just….. don’t….. get it.
*blinks*
~Sean
December 14th, 2007 at 10:14 pmYep! it appear’s you are correct and I agree…Blessings
December 14th, 2007 at 10:14 pmTheb insanity continues!
December 14th, 2007 at 10:19 pmThe Democrats are insane. I’m honestly considering voting for a Thug for the first time in my life. If we’re trying to destroy the country, why play politics with it? Just let the Republicans handle it. Jesus H. Christ. Un. Freekin’. Be. Lieveable.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:21 pmThe Dems roll over and play dead……again.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:22 pmahem - pitchforks
(da nada)
December 14th, 2007 at 10:23 pmI started off thinking that the demos couldn’t show their hand until they had maneuvered the repubs into a corner.
Now I’m very, very confused.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:25 pm8 - too pissed off to spellchek :-)
December 14th, 2007 at 10:26 pmNothing confusing about it. The dems have sold The People down the river just like the Repubs have. It’s time to show your disgust by disaffiliating with the Democratic Party and registering Independent. Hate to say it but I told you so.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:28 pmThe Repturds lie, cheat and steal and the Spineless Dems just roll over and play dead. That’s about the size of it. It’s time for the people to take control back of our government and country. We surely can’t count on any dems to do it for us.
In fact, if Hillary, Barak, and Edwards don’t get back to filibuster the intel immunity, then they will be penalized by the voters in 08.
I can see it clearly now: The Repturds are criminals and the Dems are complicit. Who’s the ONLY man who has the ability to clean up this disaster within? Al Gore!
December 14th, 2007 at 10:30 pmWhat was the #1 mandate of the people overhwelmingly when they put their faith and trust in these democrats to give them the majority?? END THE WAR IN IRAQ! What are they doing? Funding it even further with OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS against our own wishes. This amount to stealing this money from the people outright.
EVERY DEMOCRAT WHO VOTED FOR THIS CHARADE NEEDS TO BE PITCHED OUT OF CONGRESS AT THE END OF THEIR NEXT TERM.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:32 pmTime to clean House(s) of Congress. Sweep these corporate shills out and down the drain.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:43 pmWEAK DEMOCRATS. NO NO… THEY ARE NOT WAEK, THEY ARE WAR CRIMINAL PARTNERS! SHAME ON THIS IDIOTIC CONGRESS. THEY ALSO ARE WAR CRIMINALS, IT IS MORE THAN CLEAR! GUTLESS BUNCH OF WEAK WAR CRIMINALS!
December 14th, 2007 at 10:48 pmTHE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD BE SURROUNDING CONGRESS AND THE WHITE HOUSE AND STOPING THE CRIME RAMPAGE PERPETRATED BOTH BY THE WH AND A WEAK CONGRESS. SHAME ON PELOSI, SHAME ON REAID! HOW LOW WILL AMERICA GO?????
December 14th, 2007 at 10:51 pmHere comes some bad news for Kenneth Blackwell and his vote rigging in the Ohio 2004 election! He’s going to fry. New Sup. of Elections switching to paper ballots because DRE’s failed the test. Hoorah!
December 14th, 2007 at 10:51 pmcheck it out - http://www.bradblog.com/
WTF? When we finally store the capital with torches and pirchfors the Dems will not be spared either.
Comment by Dreary Urbanite —
I COULD AGREE WITH YOU MORE!!!!
December 14th, 2007 at 10:52 pmThe Dems roll over and play dead……again.
Comment by Zooey
That is an excellent comment!!!hahahahaha!!!!
December 14th, 2007 at 10:54 pmok lets see…..if a sargent is making 1500 a month…3.5% would be less than 75 bucks a month.How Nice of them…Conditions on Contractors…….doubt it….and help for the returning troops….what exactly does that mean…..they’ve already butchered there benefits…so…….they accomplished nothing………..grrreattt
December 14th, 2007 at 10:56 pmHi RU! I’ve been gone and these past few threads are quite depressing for those of us who had a shred of hope that the Dems would work for the people finally. I think I’m going to throw in the towel on even trying to work for change. This country has sold itself down the river and I have absolutely no faith in either party at this point. Why should we bother when they don’t give a crap about the people for whom they work - us?
I think it’s time to take a very long break from it all since nothing we think, say, or do matters one iota to those in power. They’ve totally forgotten that they are our “public servants”. If Hillary, Barak and Edwards don’t take a stand on any of this nonsense, then they don’t deserve to be voted into office.
If they don’t have the guts to stand up for the people, then what the hell are they doing wasting their time and ours in this ridiculous campaign bull$hit? Can you tell that I’m totally disgusted? I’m outraged.
If Chris Dodd is the ONLY democrat with a spine who is willing to filibuster and stop this nonsense, then he will get the independent votes which will take away from the democrat candidate and I’d have to admit that they will deserve it.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:58 pmThese Dems have to go. ‘The legislation also authorizes “more help to troops returning from combat”‘ By cutting other social programs. It becomes Paygo when it comes to the veterans but it is “emergency funding” when it comes to Iraq. I am tempted to vote Green next year, damn the consequences.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:58 pmDoes anybody know where the roll-call can be found?
December 14th, 2007 at 10:59 pmI am beyond disgusted with this group of spineless democrats who are merely republicans in disguise. To hell with them all.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:00 pmI think you guys are right….If Dodd does do this filibuster and he ends up with no support(Clinton,Biden,Obama) he will certainly get my support…I want to see who shows up and backs his play here.The 3 other names I mentioned have stated they would support his filibuster….now we’ll see who is who.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:04 pmhttp://www.senate.gov/ legislative/ LIS/ roll_call_lists/ roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00259 …..Roll Call….this is a good place to start.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:08 pmDid congress vote to give themselves apay raise yet ?don’t worry it coming.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:09 pmJust another freakie Friday in bushworld…..Of course I agree with all of you and have been totaly disgusted for a long time, weary also…I’m still going with Kucenich and he’s the only dem. I will vote for, in fact will write him in if he does not make it through this sherade of a campaign, you all do as you choose..Please let me know when and where we will load the bus’s and march with pitch fork’s, I would like a window seat..Blessings
December 14th, 2007 at 11:17 pmThanks mudshark, great link. My state went the right way. Not surprised at Feingold, shocked at Kohl.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:30 pmEveryone should be used to this by now.
We’ve all seen it for years.
They kill their own people by the thousands while plunging their country into
unheard of debt and killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people, women
and children while devastating our environment, laughing at our laws,
shredding the Constitution and destroying our standing across the world.
How does that song go ? . . . ‘We keep waiting for the world to change’ ? . .
There is only one way home for us . . . death . . . or victory.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:31 pm“President Bush’s steadfast determination has won again.”
That look in Bush’s eyes? Not “steadfast determination”. It is pure stupidity. Deer in the headlights. It is the look of the 6 year old when you ask him to spell onomatopoeia. Or when you ask a conservative how to spell compassion.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:33 pmwow what a bargain
are they sure there’s no way we could spend more on it?
December 14th, 2007 at 11:37 pmTotal capitulation by the Dems.
I am not surprised. They capitulated when the war was going badly 9 months ago. Now they would have to choke off the effort when things are as good as they have been in years.
A late Friday afternoon vote on the busiest shopping weekend of the year. This WOULD be a perfect time for a Congressional pay raise.
Progressives, you have no party. Veritas is right.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:40 pmNeither Bigfoot, nor the Cheerleader Prince, will ever defeat me.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:47 pmif winning means pawning the stars and stripes to the Chinese, for the sake of squandering our military and our reputation, then losing will be fine with me.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:49 pmIt’s pretty funny how you libs keep calling President Bush stupid, yet he defeates you at every turn.
If he’s as stupid as you say, then what does that make you?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 14, 2007 @ 11:46 pm
This is actually a very good point.
Progressives, you have no party.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:54 pmK - -see 37.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:55 pm“It’s pretty funny how you libs keep calling President Bush stupid, yet he defeates you at every turn.”
How has he defeated “us libs”? He is not defeating anybody. There are enough money-hungry whores in the Democratic party (not libs) where all he has to do is wave a Benjamin and they fall in line. ”
If he’s as stupid as you say, then what does that make you?”
Well, if he and I were on Jeopardy, it would make me a millionaire.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:58 pmYou on the other hand, seem to think he is a pretty bright guy. What does that make you?
December 14th, 2007 at 11:59 pmI wonder how much it would cost to send every Democratic member of the Senate a backbone for Xmas?
December 15th, 2007 at 12:00 amWitch 1
December 15th, 2007 at 12:01 amTell the bus to stop here in Illinois on your way to Washington D.C. I am locating my pitchfork and torch now.
Nothing we say or do gets their attention - so we will have to show them we are not kidding.
It’s pretty funny how you libs keep calling President Bush stupid, yet he defeates you at every turn.
If he’s as stupid as you say, then what does that make you?
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 14, 2007 @ 11:46 pm
He defeats all Americans at every turn. He destroys this country a little more every time his evil minions do his bidding. There is no question that he has spied on members of Congress, and is blackmailing many. You republican tools who crow about these victories are just pawns in the GOP game of destroying our democracy and taking our freedom. You are all traitors.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:03 amK - -see 37.
Comment by tombaker — December 14, 2007 @ 11:55 pm
Yes…it is a depressing thought. But somehow, my bet is on the US over China. This decade is a major replay of the 20’s in many respects from an economic standpoint. There is pain coming our way, no doubt, but not more, I think, than we can take.
I doubt Pat Buchannen has many fans here, but he was vehemently against NAFTA and the Iraq invasion…for all that he wrote Nixon’s speeches there are times I think he is the only real conservative left.
Anyhow, when pressed in an interview about America’s imminent demise, he conceded that America has always posessed amazing recuperative powers. I think he is right. I hope he is right.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:04 amyou like borrowing that $ from communists, biggie?
pinko.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:04 am#40
December 15th, 2007 at 12:05 amBush is intellectually stupid, educationally ignorant, socially oafish, but politically savvy. He learned long ago to exploit his birth privileges with little effort, except to smash his opponents with the sheer force of his family’s wealth and power.
that’s whatcha got, K
a 2 trillion dollar brooklyn bridge to baghdad
congratulations.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:05 ami hope to see all the optimism and smugness from righties once the dollar’s worth 60 cents canadian.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:06 ami hope to see all the optimism and smugness from righties once the dollar’s worth 60 cents canadian.
Comment by tombaker — December 15, 2007 @ 12:06 am
No smugness or optimism here. I am only a rightie by comparison to the TP Spectrum…
December 15th, 2007 at 12:10 am“It makes me just as bright as him, and much brighter than you.”
You might want to add delusional to your self-awareness list.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:15 am“No smugness or optimism here. I am only a rightie by comparison to the TP Spectrum…”
Congratulations.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:16 amNothing confusing about it. The dems have sold The People down the river just like the Repubs have. It’s time to show your disgust by disaffiliating with the Democratic Party and registering Independent. Hate to say it but I told you so.
Comment by patooty
I’ve been there and done that. And don’t bother sending Nancy Pelosi an e-mail from either her Contact page on her Speaker site or from her Congressperson page, because she isn’t taking any e-mails. The Speaker contact page bounces your e-mail and her California Congressperson page sends you a canned reply telling you that if you are not a “registered” California constituent, she isn’t interested in what you have to say.
God I wish there was some way that “we the people” could kick both Pelosi and Reid to the curb.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:16 am“Nothing confusing about it. The dems have sold The People down the river just like the Repubs have. It’s time to show your disgust by disaffiliating with the Democratic Party and registering Independent. Hate to say it but I told you so.”
I don’t understand what you are saying. Republicans are still worse than Dems. Why would I, suddenly become a wishy-washy centrist indy?
December 15th, 2007 at 12:18 amNo, the Bush administration wins, the Democratic Congress caves, America loses.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:20 amEvery now and then a thread arises where the TP conventional wisdom folk dare the “trolls” to post.
I feel bad for you guys tonight. You have been so totally had by the Dems. If I were a Progressive I’d kill my computer and go drink.
Bigfoot is right. Veritas is right. Tombaker is right.
Go Obama.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:23 amI don’t understand what you are saying. Republicans are still worse than Dems. Why would I, suddenly become a wishy-washy centrist indy?
Comment by Sabyen91
Because if enough Democrats quit the party and become Independents it will send a strong message to the Democratic party that the DLC is killing the party and putting the Democrats in extreme jeopardy. The Democrats are going to need us “grass roots” kind of people to get out there and work hard to defeat the Republiscum congressmen and Senators. But the way they are going, no one is going to heed their call and we will end up with either another Republican President or a Congress that is not very different from what it is now, with a Democratic President. That will still end in gridlock because the Republiscums will continue their obstruction and nothing will get done and nothing will change.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:24 am“Because if enough Democrats quit the party and become Independents it will send a strong message to the Democratic party that the DLC is killing the party and putting the Democrats in extreme jeopardy.”
Tell you what, as soon as my district stops electing Tammy Baldwin and Russ Feingold…I will become independent. And becoming an independent is NOT going to change my vote. If I can help it no Republican will represent me.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:29 amI’m going to barf.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:30 amThere you go. cold hard left says third party.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:30 am‘Remeber the plan that said it was better for Congress to split the legislation into micro bills instead of big bills that were easy to defeat. The money that Congress is dangling in front of Bush is like a carrot on a stick. Bush keeps saying “Show me the money!†Thinking Congress doesn’t have the appropriations set aside. They keep saying, “O…I got your money Baby…say hey!‒
Sorry, but I don’t buy it. Pelosi and Reid are huge wimps or are bought along with most Dems. Or they are so used to losing they miss it. There is no grand plan by them.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:36 amThere you go. cold hard left says third party.
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 12:30 am
Yeah, well, he really hates the Prog agenda, whereas I just find it distasteful.
You would all be fools to abandon the Dems absent an amazingly charismatic leader who actually Could form a Progressive Party.
Believe it or not, I think Obama could be that man. He exudes charisma. He talks a good vision. He would be VERY hard for the largely white christian male Repubs to block. And secretly, I think he is more radical than anyone suspects.
You could elect a Democrat and get a Progressive. The same is likely true of Edwards but he is the only one of the Big 3 Dem nominees who has no chance of winning.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:39 amObama is a DLC hack. I don’t think I am going to vote for him. Thanks for the tip though.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:43 amjustasking. What makes you think I am a troll? Other than the fact that I don’t read (according to you).
December 15th, 2007 at 12:44 amI can see bigfoot has stuck his bigfoot in his big mouth again….at any rate…lets see what happens in the next general election…shall we?Then come back at post your Bullsh!t
December 15th, 2007 at 12:45 amSabyen 91..ignore them……..
December 15th, 2007 at 12:47 amYou are probably right mudsharks…Just feeling a little froggy.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:49 amHow is Obama secretly more radical than anyone suspects? In your thinking Keltoi?
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 12:42 am
It is just a hunch. Were he to gain power, he could BE as radical as he wanted.
Look, the Race Card is a monster in American politics. When you look at Jackson, Sharpton et al….I would say an apparent moderate like O could do incredible things once he had the big chair.
He is the product of a bi-racial marriage between a Muslim and a Christian who spent some of his upbringing outside the US. He has been candid about using drugs.
Those three things alone would make him the most radical President we have had since FDR.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:50 amIf I were a Progressive I’d kill my computer and go drink.
Comment by Keltoi at Night
Huh???
I consider myself a progressive and I couldn’t care less about Dems. To me, political groups will always watch their backs against the common people, which is the whole deal of a plutocracy.
I think this is far worst for Bush and for the national extremists behind his actions. People is getting tired of the whole scam of free market crap and how the market is gonna solve everything, meanwhile the world’s most powerful middle class (US) is being depleted by neoliberal economic structures.
And funny enough, as the worldwide breach between poor and rich people is getting bigger and bigger, Marx is spot on 150 years later.
Now, Hardcore left is not Al Gore, come on. I urge you to go to any university in Italy to know what hard-core left is. Any 18 kid can refute you any of your usual and boring jingoistic propaganda.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:52 amKeltoi, so you are going with the “he is a black and his dad was a Muslim” deal? Sorry, he supported Joe Lieberman. Sounds awfully liberal to me.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:53 amWhat are you speaking of, justasking? What did I say that offended you?
December 15th, 2007 at 12:55 amAre you talking about the supposed “aid for veterans”? If so, I have read MORE about that than these links. I will give you links to stories about how much BS that really is.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:57 amKeltoi, so you are going with the “he is a black and his dad was a Muslim†deal? Sorry, he supported Joe Lieberman. Sounds awfully liberal to me.
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 12:53 am
The art of Triangulating is doing it in such a way no one knows you are doing it. Clinton is tagged with that label, Obama is not.
I am telling you, once in power I think he’d shock the US, especially since he’d have a majority in Congress. It is as close to a 3rd Party as you guys are going to get.
December 15th, 2007 at 12:57 amNo, Obama is tagged with it among many progressives. He has been as DLC as is possible. Why do you think he would change after being elected? And why not Hillary?
December 15th, 2007 at 12:58 amAre you going to say anything substantial, justasking, or are you just going to smear me?
December 15th, 2007 at 12:59 am“Our troops who are captured endure worse at the hands of the enemy, so a waterboarding, as practiced by the United States, would be far preferable.”
Wow, moral relativitism from a ReThug. Surprising. What about the fact that torture is not a good way to get info. Or are you just looking for ways to punish the enemy?
December 15th, 2007 at 1:02 am“There is no choice but victory.”
Nice sound bite. I think they used that one in Vietnam as well.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:03 amgood points re: Obama, k - i’ve had hopeful thoughts along those lines about him, too
sayben - i know you’re no troll, and will vouch.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:04 amNo, Obama is tagged with it among many progressives. He has been as DLC as is possible. Why do you think he would change after being elected? And why not Hillary?
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 12:58 am
Hill-a-Copter is the definition of status quo. She is the only Dem in the race that would be indistinguisable from a Repub.
Did you notice how right after Bush was elected he refused to go after the Clintons in any way shape or form? A vote for Hillary is a vote for more of the same.
Unless the Rs nominate McCain, which it looks like they won’t, they are toast in the 08. So whoever wins the Dem nomination will be Prez.
Now,you may be right, O may be DLC, but you KNOW Hill is - all she wants is the spot, just the same way W wanted it to match up to Bush 41.
Nominating Hillary is crazy on multiple levels, I hope to the Gods Obama wins in Iowa.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:05 ambiggie, on the other hand….
let’s just say “the coherence” is not his strongest suit.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:06 amThanks, tomB.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:06 amBill Clinton was the best Republican president ever. I think that’s whay the righties have such a hardon for him to this day.
HRC would be a little, teeny bit to the left of Bill, but she’s still a playa. Nonetheless, a D is still an apple to an R’s brussels sprout; really got to stretch to compare them.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:08 amSabyen91, you are doing great, man.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:09 ami don’t think K’s that far down the scale, by a longshot
December 15th, 2007 at 1:09 amKeltoi, I fully agree. Hillary might as well be a Republican. I WOULD vote for Obama over her because he is still not as tarnished as she is. But the only progressive credentials he has are in his speeches. His voting record doesn’t jive. I would be a Kucinich voter if I thought it wouldn’t be pointless (come on, have you seen his wife???) I think Edwards is the guy that progs should get behind. He IS electable (at least in the general election). He beats the crap out of any and all Repubs in polls.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:10 amEliminating Saddam Hussein and setting up a U.S. friendly democracy in the middle east is part of a long term strategy to eliminate terrorism, either through understanding, or destruction.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
You forgot the WMDs near Tikrit, somewhere, tool.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:11 amThanks Juan and tom, no, Keltoi certainly isn’t that far down or I wouldn’t have wasted hundreds of words on him.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:11 amI think Bigfoot is unaware that regime change is forbidden by International Laws.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:12 amjustasking, stop being such a dildo and tell me what your problem is.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:12 amjustasking, stop being such a dildo and tell me what your problem is.
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 1:12 am
I was thinking he was being more of a prick. Dildo, huh?
Could be…
December 15th, 2007 at 1:14 amI think Bigfoot is unaware that waterboarding is illegal by US and International laws.
I think Bigfoot is unaware that invading Iraq has spawned more terrorism than ever.
I think Bigfoot is unaware that Bush has NOT captured OBL. I repeat, the man who supposedly brought down the WTC in New York under the admin of Bush has NOT BEEN CAUGHT. Guess, he is brilliant.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:15 ami’ve beaten my head against biggie’s wall of noise enough
when they won’t respond to plain-as-day items honestly, you know it’s time to cut your losses, and save your breath, other than the occasional, well-aimed pin-prick to the old pompous-bubble
taking apart righty reasoning is easy-as-pie - all you need to do is ask them to hold themselves to their own standards, and you’ve pretty well got’em hog-tied, like a 2 year-old razorback sow that’s destined for the smoker.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:16 amand have saved lives.
Comment by O. Bigfoot
Another lie.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:17 am“http://pmcarpenter.blogs.com/p_m_carpenters_commentary/2007/12/how-to-screw-up.html”
Read our good friend P.M. You will see why I said what I did. And before you claim somebody is a concern troll you might want to read other things.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:17 amBigfoot has yet not explained his mistake when he said that Ahmadinejad wanted to wipe Israel out of existence. Or as he uses to say: Isreal.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:18 am“OR…maybe you’re just a semi-informed person on the late night thread shift. Either way, you’re not helping, Sabyen.”
OR…you are not as well-informed as you think. Come on. Zooey came to my defense. If that is not proof of my pureness as a prog…I don’t know what is.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:19 amYou know what, justasking? I DO argue with fellow progressives. When I disagree with them. For you to call me a troll just shows me you are very narrowminded.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:22 amjust- what necessitated this whole “get up in sayben’s face” deal, anyway? just asking.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:23 amI think Bigfoot is unaware that regime change is forbidden by International Laws.
Comment by Juan C.
OBigFootInMouth, like his idol George Bush, could care less about International Laws. They don’t apply to them. They are the Kings and they can do whatever they damn well please.
What I fear is that something terrible is going to happen to this country and there will be no one out there willing to help us out. We have alienated pretty much everyone out there.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:23 amComment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 1:19 am
Really? How would you know?
December 15th, 2007 at 1:24 amtom, I believe it was this post.
“These Dems have to go. ‘The legislation also authorizes “more help to troops returning from combatâ€â€˜ By cutting other social programs. It becomes Paygo when it comes to the veterans but it is “emergency funding†when it comes to Iraq. I am tempted to vote Green next year, damn the consequences.”
December 15th, 2007 at 1:25 am“ok…Sabyen. Tell me this. What’s going to happen next with this appropriations bill?”
I would say it goes to Bush and he will be giggling like a schoolgirl for days.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:26 ambenderbee tries jumpin’ me all the goddamned time too - no idea why - never really disagreed with him about anything.
there’s plenty to dispute, that still amount to progress
closing off dispute with incoherence, that’ the righty way, and the only way that should be rejected categorically.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:27 amReally? How would you know?
Comment by Zooey
Hehehe. :D
December 15th, 2007 at 1:28 amjustasking. Give up already. I understand you are embarassed but bulling forward with insults will not help you.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:30 amHehehe. :D
Comment by Juan C. — December 15, 2007 @ 1:28 am
;)
December 15th, 2007 at 1:30 amAnd you might want to stop calling me a troll. I am guessing if you take a vote you are the one who most TP posters would consider the troll.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:31 am*you
December 15th, 2007 at 1:32 amWhat?
December 15th, 2007 at 1:32 amclosing off dispute with incoherence, that’ the righty way, and the only way that should be rejected categorically.
Comment by tombaker
I think Bart has an issue about having the last word, about humiliating the rival, about being attacked. It is sad, cause he is SO funny and spot on sometimes.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:34 amjust -
I get pissed at the D’s too, though I’m usually more quiet about it here, where any little item like that will be transformed by trolls into monkeypoop, to be flung around incoherently.
it would be good to have more discussion like that, but it just wouldn’t be possible here. the folks at kos manage to keep things on-track a litte better, but at the cost of being so big and busy as to be impersonal.
it’s a matter of - we either transform the D’s, or use them as a springboard to a 3rd party. from my pov, transforming is a shorter, straighter line, therefore preferable. heck, look what wackos have managed to do with the gop. i don’t think we should take exactly the same tack (lol), but i think you see my point re: the malleability of a party.
let sayben vent re: the D’s. it’s not like he’s going to find a Nader to vote for next fall. i don’t think anyone’s going to take any chances.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:35 amComment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 1:29 am
Your the one acting like a f_cking concern troll. STFU, idiot.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:37 amtombaker, I wouldn’t vote for Nader anyway :). He was such a hypocrite…railing against big business while owning stock in Occidental Oil. You are right. I would like to do it internally but my district includes Madison, WI. We already have great liberal reps. Voting Green would be stupid.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:38 ami didn’t mean Bart does that - he does what he does, but he doesn’t do the righty thing.
it’s the biggies, et al, who tilt at us with unicorns of rhetoric, that stifle discussion with incoherence.
(viva che!)
just - “concern trolls”, like capt mantastic, annoy me more than i care to tell - i’m feelin’ you all the way on that. there are ways to deal with them, too. sayben ain’t one of’em, far as i can tell.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:40 amNo, justasking, what you are not understanding is that the financing for the f^cking Iraq war is considered emergency while the funds for the veterans are considered budgetary and apparantly paygo (if you need a definition, just google it). Stop being such a moron.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:40 ami was kidding sayben - just trying to come up with a useful example.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:41 amCaptain Mantastic is no concern troll. He is a true righty, dyed in the wool troll. Concern trolls are those that say when we are attacking Israeli policy that “Come on guys, we don’t want to sound anti-semetic or anything. Come on!!!!)
December 15th, 2007 at 1:42 amOh, tom, I was just using your opening to define my position.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:44 am“Come ‘ere…I’ll whisper it to you…now where’s that Dildo?”
Somehow I don’t think you are going to be around long.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:44 amlabels aside, i stand by my statements, and even my defense of you, sabyen (sorry, been typo’ing the hell out of your handle)
December 15th, 2007 at 1:45 aminnyhoo - viva che y’all, and bust it up out there this weekend, wontcha?
December 15th, 2007 at 1:46 amThank you tom. I don’t take offense to people massacreing (sp?) my fake handle.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:46 am…now where’s that Dildo?
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 1:40 am
Up your ass, as usual.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:46 amCome ‘ere…I’ll whisper it to you…now where’s that Dildo?
Comment by justasking
Oh, a sex joke… how original. Ignore.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:47 amUp your ass, as usual.
Comment by Zooey
I was waiting for your answer before I had another drink of water here!!!
Hilarious!!!!
December 15th, 2007 at 1:48 amjustasking, I don’t believe there is any such thing as Bush getting his money back. He asked for money and the Congress gave it to him. I would love to be proved wrong. Maybe I don’t understand how appropriations work. Do you have a link?
December 15th, 2007 at 1:51 amHilarious!!!!
Comment by Juan C. — December 15, 2007 @ 1:48 am
Heh.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:51 am“I’m just trying to stay on topic of the thread. I see nothing nefarious about what ALL democrats are doing. Maybe you’re just tired Sabyen. Maybe you need a nap”
Feeling just fine. I will ignore the insult as long as you respond to my last post.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:52 amLet’s see…who called me a dildo first..hmmm…Sabyen.
nasty.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 1:54 am
Are you excusing yourself?
December 15th, 2007 at 1:57 amThen Zooey said I was more like a “prickâ€. And I told him that I thought he had more class than that. At least during the day threads. But he’s preety quiet then. That might explain that. He doesn’t say much around the real hard hitting intellectuals.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 1:56 am
Thank you for proving you don’t know SHIT.
Dismissed.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:59 am“Let’s see…who called me a dildo first..hmmm…Sabyen.
nasty.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 1:54 am
Recommend (0) | Report Abuse
Then Zooey said I was more like a “prickâ€. And I told him that I thought he had more class than that. At least during the day threads. But he’s preety quiet then. That might explain that. He doesn’t say much around the real hard hitting intellectuals.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 1:56 am”
Are you kidding? You were being a prick AND a dildo. Now you feel slighted? Grow up.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:59 amI tried being polite and asked for your point of view. You clearly were talking out your ass. So…give me a step by step process. Or shut the hell up and admit you don’t know shit.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:02 amMy point of view is Congress JUST gave Bush $189.4 BILLION. Yours is that it was already Bush’s to do with as he will.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:06 amThis is far less complicated than most people seem to realize.
With rare exception, elected officials in Washington, D.C. place top priority on representing the interests of their most generous campaign contributors, regardless of its impact on their constituents. If and when this occurs, large infusions of corporate cash just prior to the election can fund the necessary advertising blitzkrieg to sway enough voters to keep their sock puppet in office.
And if all else fails, that former congressperson can anticipate a much more lucrative career as a corporate board member or lobbyist. For a politician willing to “play ball” this is a can’t lose proposition, at least for them personally.
For the first time in many years, the Democrats have the wind at their backs with regard to corporate financial support, now receiving more than half of the campaign contributions from almost every corporate category. Their giddy euphoria upon again receiving such generous infusions of campaign money parallels that of a drug addict having suffered withdrawal symptoms for a long time, finally receiving another injection of their preferred drug. The drug pusher/junkie metaphor seems fitting. For information regarding the extent of this transformation, please see http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1007/6359.html
Similarly, defense contractors have purchased the loyalties of the Democratic party, and for the first time since 1994, are giving more than half of their campaign monies to the Dems. Any meaningful reduction in the U. S. presence in Afghanistan and/or Iraq would predictably hurt their corporate bottom lines, with these monies quickly shifting back to Republicans. For a graphic illustration of this concept, please refer to: http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.asp?Ind=D
The advantage for the Dems is that they have moved so far into the territory once held by the Republicans, that the only means for the Republicans to distinguish themselves is by taking positions on the extreme right, a potentially self-destructive strategy.
This would seem to be the Dems strategy, in a nutshell.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:09 amLOL, nice try Bigfoot. You really do believe whatever Rush Limpballs tells you, don’t you?
December 15th, 2007 at 2:10 amGotta love unfettered greed, curmudgeon.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:12 amAnd yes, I am brilliant. Thank you for acknowledging that.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 15, 2007 @ 2:21 am
Yep, about as brilliant as a shiny new penny — and just as valuable.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:23 amCongratulations justasking!!!! So, we win?
December 15th, 2007 at 2:29 amShit, let’s appropriate 5.5 TRILLION since it doesn’t mean anything. That would just be funny!!!
December 15th, 2007 at 2:30 amBERT’s afraid of Hillary.
That’s just too funny. Ralph? Is that you?
December 15th, 2007 at 2:32 amJustasking if you have to remove your head before you stick the dildo up there?
December 15th, 2007 at 2:32 amBy the way, justasking, nobody has to go back to some little sub-committee to get the funds. The Dems just gave the Thugs all the money they need to keep the Iraq war going for the next year. You get that, right?
December 15th, 2007 at 2:34 amBert thinks Bush can steal a third election.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:35 am“Justasking if you have to remove your head before you stick the dildo up there?”
Shayne, I am thinking if the answer is no…I feel sorry for him.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:36 amShayne, I am thinking if the answer is no…I feel sorry for him.
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 2:36 am
Either way t’s kind of a lose lose proposition.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:38 amDid you just tell Shayne to chill out? Is that a joke?
December 15th, 2007 at 2:38 amShayne…I really don’t have one. It was a joke. That was a long time ago. Chill out.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 2:36 am
I knew he didn’t have a head. That explains a lot.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:38 amJustasking, although I wasn’t really, I am thoroughly chilled. Maybe you should take your own advice.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:38 amLOL, yes isn’t a whole lot better, you are right.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:39 amDid you just tell Shayne to chill out? Is that a joke?
Comment by Sabyen91 — December 15, 2007 @ 2:38 am
Hey, I think “justaskingforit” is in charge now. We better behave ourselves.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:39 amHe doesn’t have a head? Perhaps because he gives it away all the time.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:40 amOooh Justasking is using his thesaurus. How does he do that while he’s giving all that head … away.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:42 amHe doesn’t have a head? Perhaps because he gives it away all the time.
Comment by Shayne — December 15, 2007 @ 2:40 am
Heh. On that note, I will leave the concern troll to your tender mercies.
Goodnight!
December 15th, 2007 at 2:42 amjustasking, let me give you a little advice. If you like TP and would like to stick around…don’t be a jerk to other progs. You can get away with it with a lot of righties (if they really are trolls). I am a long-time poster but most people don’t know that because I changed handles but they absolutely realized you were attacking a liberal and it is not ok to do for no reason. I might be wrong. If so, somebody please let me know.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:42 amYou tell him O. Bigtoot. You’re in charge of pure crapola around here. I think justasking is treading on your turf.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:43 amNight Zoo. Thanks.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:43 amOh, justasking…what Shayne said.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:44 amAre you telling Shayne to be quiet? Women don’t take that very well.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:45 amNo Sabyen91 I don’t know who justasking is but he’s acting like a jerk. That’s easy enough to see.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:46 amIt is nice of you to admit that Harry and Nancy are not liberals. And no, we don’t love them. They are bought and paid for by you. Not sure how you can be proud of that.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:47 amOK Bert, which one of your stellar candidates is going to win the election then? The actor, the bible thumper, the mormon? You got us shaking now.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:48 amI don’t either Shayne. You also don’t know who I am. I was JPark awhile ago (pre-registration). So…a long time ago.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:49 amBigfoot, have you ever actually seen a study that says mainstream America is diametrically opposed to liberals? I have seen the opposite. You righties can’t sell an idea without lying.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:51 amZooey is not a he and I am sure she will be flattered. You are not her first stalker.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:51 amThe opinion of 24% of mainstream Americans Bigtool, you’re getting a little carried away with yourself aren’t you.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:51 amI know JPark Zooey let me know. These trolls don’t know that we all know each other. They are just floundering here like they do in real life. Have you visited us at all?
December 15th, 2007 at 2:53 amjustasking, pseudo-intellectual is fine. It is an insult but it is better than being a big sucking vacuum of anti-intelligence. I am truly sorry. I know it isn’t your fault.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:54 amWrong yet again, justasking. He did it for the future of the United States in a strategy that is simply beyond the comprehension of the radical left.
Comment by O. Bigfoot — December 15, 2007 @ 2:51 am
Oh that is funny Biggoof, I can hardly stop laughing. This is a put on right. Nobody is delusional enough to believe W has done anything for the future of the United States. You must have meant the future of the oil companies, right? Oh you slay me you big joker you.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:55 amO. Bigfoot, tsk, tsk. It is sad what you believe.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:55 amjustasking. Did you just insult my intelligence and then tell me I was “pwned”? You do see the humor in that…right?
December 15th, 2007 at 2:56 am“I’m female Sabyen.”
Sadly, the gender is now tainted.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:57 amOk, I responded to BERT once. Never again. It is pointless to talk to a neanderthal like him.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:58 amProject much justasking? Hey JPark you got pwnd? Funny I’ve never heard an intellectual tell somebody they just got pwnd intellectually or even owned for that matter.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:58 amBigfoot, the awl is barely considered a tool.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:59 amSounds like an oxymoron to me Shayne.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:59 amMaybe that’s why you keep stepping on it Biggoof.
December 15th, 2007 at 2:59 am‘“anti-intellectualâ€?!? You jibe like Hillary.’
What? Doesn’t every liberal use the word? Considering the right is exactly that? I seriously doubt your credentials.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:00 amjustasking, sorry, you weren’t talking to me. I wasn’t your target.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:01 amYeah Bert we kind of lost our tolerance when W stole the second elections. Now we don’t take any prisoners. Better get with the program. Your way behind the curve, but you’re staying in your comfort zone that way. You want tolerance why don’t you go watch O’Reilly, everything I know about tolerance I learned at Fox News.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:03 am“Mainstream America consists of the outright majority, Shayne.”
Check out any generic Republican vs. Dem poll. Republicans are good at lying or they would NEVER win an election.l
December 15th, 2007 at 3:04 amy’all?
December 15th, 2007 at 3:04 amjustasking, where exactly is it intellectual to use the term “pwned”?
December 15th, 2007 at 3:05 amJustasking is tells us she’s a female while she’s calling Zooey a he. Oh the irony.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:05 amOr y’all
December 15th, 2007 at 3:05 amjustasking has a lot of testosterone. That is all I can say.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:07 amy’all are boring when you’re not giving windbag political opinions.
Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 3:03 am
More irony. And you’re boring when you are giving windbag political opinions. Of course the fact that you cut and paste them from Wikipedia has something to do with the tedius factor.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:07 amI think she’s shaving as we speak.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:08 amThat Halo 3 reference is original, I’ve only seen is used 2 or 3 times tonight.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:09 amNo, anti-intellectual IS a word. Not made up.
According to Websters…
: opposing or hostile to intellectuals or to an intellectual view or approach
You do know how ironic this is right? You, a supposed intellectual claiming anti-intellectual isn’t a word and getting totally pwned? Heh.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:09 amBigAwl, it is still not a compliment. 4 feet long and a quarter of an inch wide. Not really.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:10 amWhen she said you were a bigtool I don’t think she was referring to your member.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:11 amUm, justasking, you deny the existence of the dictionary?
December 15th, 2007 at 3:11 amYou better cut back on the weed justasking. Maybe then you’ll realize how boring you are.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:11 amOr stupid.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:12 amWow justasking got pwned. You better straigten up justasking before you get hurt.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:13 amI think justasking is more boring than stupid but I could be wrong JP. Maybe a 50/50 split.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:14 amI think her (if it isn’t MA) unimpenetrable arrogance is more annoying than boring OR stupid. Yes, justasking unimpenetrable IS a word.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:16 amAnd if you don’t get it unimpenetrable is a joke.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:16 amWho is bashing you for cutting and pasting Wiki? Nobody. You are being bashed for being a jack-ass.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:18 amOh, and who doesn’t know what HE is talking about?
December 15th, 2007 at 3:19 amDid you even read my link? If you think you are still right you are either obstinate, stupid or insane.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:19 amJustasking are you trying to be thick as a brick or does it just come naturally for you? Never mind, nobody really cares.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:21 amYou sound so…born again.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:23 amHere’s a couple of other words you might want to look up justasking; pretentious, pompous and bloviating. I think your picture might be right next to all three of them.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:23 amBy the way, I can be much more vulgar, if you would like.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:23 amShayne, bloviating CAN’T be a word!!!
December 15th, 2007 at 3:24 amBorn again? Boring again?
December 15th, 2007 at 3:24 amI looked it up and say justasking’s picture. Honest.
December 15th, 2007 at 3:25 amDamn, I was wrong. Oops, did I just say a naughty word??? :(
December 15th, 2007 at 3:26 amjustasking, it is late. And still one hundred percent of the liberals here don’t believe you are one or our own.