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O’Reilly Exempts Barnes & Noble From His ‘War On Christmas’: ‘They Sell A Lot Of Books’

Yesterday, the right-wing group Focus on the Family released “The Attack on Christmas 2007, a list of businesses that advertise during the holidays. Barnes & Noble (B&N) is listed in the “Ugly” category for “censor[ing]” Christmas in holiday advertising.

On The O’Reilly Factor yesterday, the group’s Carrie Gordon Earll and Bill O’Reilly — a fighter in the War on Christmas — slammed the business community for “avoiding using the word Christmas.”

But when Earll criticized B&N for “intentionally removing the word Christmas” and “using that holiday theme,” O’Reilly cowered. “We got - now Barnes and Noble, they say to be fair to them, because they sell a lot of book at Barnes and Noble,” he said:

EARLL: And I’m going to spend my money some place that’s not scared to wish me a Merry Christmas.

O’REILLY: And I think a lot of people feel the same way, which is why we reversed the trend, but I’m not going to come down hard on Barnes & Noble. I think, you know, Dick Sporting Goods, you know, they may want to rethink this.

Watch it:

[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/OReillyBarnesAndNoble.320.240.flv]

O’Reilly, author of seven books, recently released Kids Are Americans Too. Over the years, he has bragged about a chummy relationship with America’s largest bookstore:

The Riggio brothers, who run B&N, are good guys and are doing the right thing. Corporate dignity is important and never ridiculous. [8/21/07]

Barnes & Noble has been great to us, as are all the retailers. [10/3/06]

I have a good relationship with the CEO, Len Riggio, and he wouldn’t do anything underhanded. [10/25/05]

After giving B&N a pass, O’Reilly ended the show shilling for his books: “Finally, time for the mail. Tons of it last night. But first, a big thank you for making the paperback of Culture Warrior a huge hit.”

Do O’Reilly’s personal book sales take precedent over fighting the “War On Christmas?”

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114 Responses to “O’Reilly Exempts Barnes & Noble From His ‘War On Christmas’: ‘They Sell A Lot Of Books’”

  1. hellinabucket Says:

    selective morality. How unchristian.


  2. raynman Says:

    The truth is out.... the War on Christmas only applies where it doesn't interfere with crass commercialism....


  3. Frosty Cupcake Says:

    That's too hilarious, especially considering the fact that Barnes and Noble has long been considered a "blue company', sending most of their political donations to Democrats. (Can't remember the exact percentage, but a lot.)

    In fact, they were supporting Democrats when it wasn't even the thing to do. (Unlike today when corporate America can see the writing on the wall.)


  4. missmolly Says:

    Do O’Reilly’s personal book sales take precedent over fighting the “War On Christmas?”

    Don't make me laugh. Of course. The neocon thought process selectively exempts anybody or anything essential to his own interests.

    This is why so many right wingers are vehemently in favor of deporting all illegals immediately. EXCEPT their gardener, their nanny, etc.


  5. Frosty Cupcake Says:

    btw:

    Hello Everybody.

    :)


  6. patooty Says:

    How transparently greedy,Loofah Man!


  7. Dumb_Fox Says:

    B&N are Orally's Halliburton. Mercenaries in his war on Christmas.

    That's why Billy looks the other way.


  8. patooty Says:

    Hi to you,Frosty! Maybe his book sells well there? What personal greed.


  9. missmolly Says:

    WHY don't these "war on Christmas" zealots publish a list of retailers who DO use the word "Christmas" in their advertising and in their greetings to customers?

    There are so many who have chosen not to that it's impossible to assemble a comprehensive list. Therefore, the "Christmas warriors" just cherry-pick retailers they especially want to target.

    Not that it's going to matter. If a consumer wants to buy a Nintendo Wii, he/she will buy it from a retailer that has them in stock -- no matter what the cashier says to them on their way out.


  10. Charles James Napier Says:

    You folks sure do hate this Bill O'Reilly fellow.

    He must be a pretty bad guy for the people who run this site to spend so much time parcing his every word.


  11. patooty Says:

    When I see O'Liely's face on these threads, I am physically nauseated to the point of not spending much time even writing about someone who has made himself so totally irrelevant to the american lanscape. Yawn, yawn.


  12. patooty Says:

    CharlesJames: Yawn, yawn pretty much sums it up for me. He's a known con artist and liar - so why bother? I agree with you - Billy O's totally irrelevant.


  13. gummitch Says:

    Bill O doesn't want to p!ss off the buyers at Barnes & Noble, that's for sure. He'd find his books buried on the bottom shelf, stuffed behind the latest home improvement volumes.


  14. patooty Says:

    And he's not an especially creative or intelligent con artist to boot. He's a very "ho hum con artist" who deserves no attention.


  15. patooty Says:

    gummitch: you got it.


  16. gummitch Says:

    He must be a pretty bad guy for the people who run this site to spend so much time parcing his every word.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:02 pm

    He's a pompous blowhard. It's always fun to point out the hypocrisy of pompous blowhards.

    Why do you hate fun?


  17. patooty Says:

    What a transparent and overt distraction technique this is - focusing on the word Christmas when some of our patriots will die before they can get home for Christmas, if they are even scheduled to do so. How sick.


  18. patooty Says:

    gummitch: He hates fun because he's a reptard, that's why.


  19. patooty Says:

    Maybe Loofah will come up with the next distraction technique: Focusing on New Year's Eve??


  20. Bob Says:

    This is just another battle in the 'conservative's' War on Reality.
    Other battles include the War on Science, the War on Common Sense, the War on Basic Human Rights, the War on Enlightenment, and not least, the War on the US Constitution.


  21. tombaker Says:

    Aww, geeeez.....Billo makes himself a joke, without help from a single "SP".

    Think what he could accomplish with our help.


  22. StratRat Says:

    You folks sure do hate this Bill O’Reilly fellow.

    He must be a pretty bad guy for the people who run this site to spend so much time parcing his every word.

    Comment by Charles James Napier

    Well, he is your spokesperson, isn't he? He is hypocritical and unAmerican - both traits that can be placed at your feet. He is a blight on the national landscape and a small number of bedwetters hang on his every word. Why they do that, I do not know. Your side seems to value what he has to say.


  23. joe cantwell Says:

    You folks sure do hate this Bill O’Reilly fellow.

    He must be a pretty bad guy for the people who run this site to spend so much time parcing his every word.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:02 pm

    chuck you couldn't be more right. he is a pretty bad guy.


  24. Witch1 Says:

    Well I see TP is back to lot's of shit for o'lilie again.....There are other thing's to post on....Off I go to some other more interesting site's that don't donate time to this sack of shit...


  25. joe cantwell Says:

    Well, he is your spokesperson, isn’t he? He is hypocritical and unAmerican - both traits that can be placed at your feet. He is a blight on the national landscape and a small number of bedwetters hang on his every word. Why they do that, I do not know. Your side seems to value what he has to say.

    Comment by StratRat — December 14, 2007 @ 12:10 pm

    agreed. but chuck isn't that kind of cowboy. he's straight, ok?

    chuck, your thoughts?


  26. joe cantwell Says:

    Comment by Witch1 — December 14, 2007 @ 12:11 pm

    you'll be missed.


  27. Charles James Napier Says:

    StratRat,

    I've never paid much attention to him, but I do like the way he gets a rise out of you all.

    Very amusing.


  28. texaslady Says:

    Gee I am so glad to have a "list" of good and bad companies to do my shopping with. Does anyone really listen to this bunch seriously, I would think it would just be for having a laugh at the ridiculous monalog after a stressful day, sorta like a cartoon.


  29. Charles James Napier Says:

    O'Reilly's just a typical blowhard, sometimes he's right, sometimes he's wrong....Not my cup of tea, but he's not exactly evil.

    I reserve my anger for this type of television:

    http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1625.htm


  30. Zooey Says:

    He's not a very committed culture warrior, is he?

    Happy Holidays, Bill!


  31. joe cantwell Says:

    http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1625.htm

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:18 pm

    chuck, the link doesn't work.

    btw, you are straight, right?


  32. joe cantwell Says:

    ps - chuck the link doesn't work, could you tell us about this anger of yours?


  33. StratRat Says:

    I’ve never paid much attention to him, but I do like the way he gets a rise out of you all.

    Very amusing.

    Comment by Charles James Napier

    I think you missed the point.

    The point being Bill-O only has a show because folks tune in. Commercially, the 28%r's keep him in business, and on the air. Those same uninformed souls buy his books - which furthers his images of relevance. If Bill-O's followers didn't procreate or vote, I wouldn't care one toss about him.

    His audience is part and parcel of Americas problems right now, and we need smart people, not uninformed 'culture warriors'.


  34. texaslady Says:

    Just a thought wonder why Rush and Bill haven't taken up the Halliburton case against the victim. You know, she was obviously enjoying being locked in a cargo container against her will. They seem to enjoy being sadistic.


  35. Zooey Says:

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:18 pm

    Why don't you reserve your judgment for the adults influencing those children? Fundamentalism of any flavor is dangerous.


  36. norbizness Says:

    If I wanted to know what that disingenuous sociopath had to say on a daily basis, I would... you know... watch him.


  37. Buckie Boy Says:

    Their bad guys unless he makes money off their sales, then it's the old Republican values again. Slam anyone you don't like for no damn reason, just maybe that black heart of his, and reward anyone who you profit from.

    Bush/Cheney/Bill OIQ
    Hague Trials '09

    Buck Fush


  38. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Very amusing.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:14 pm

    Gee, Chuckles... we must be pretty important to have you come here and parse out our every statement!

    Tootles!

    Tres amusing, as the French would say.


  39. Charles James Napier Says:

    Zooey,

    Why don’t you reserve your judgment for the adults influencing those children?
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    That's exactly what I do.

    Those poor children are brain-washed from the most tender age, like nazi youth.

    Very sad.


  40. Evergreen2U Says:

    I'm really tired hearing about O'Reilly ...the guy is a multi millionaire jerk who plays a leading role in the dumbing down of America.


  41. Zooey Says:

    Those poor children are brain-washed from the most tender age, like nazi youth.

    Very sad.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:33 pm

    Just like fundamentalist Christian children.


  42. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Interesting how these guys love them some free market system, except when a marketing decision that makes good business sense (inclusive of all potential customers in its advertising) rubs them the wrong way.


  43. joe cantwell Says:

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:33 pm

    chuck, is this your way of saying that you were brain-washed too? very sad. tell us more about it, if you can.


  44. Charles James Napier Says:

    His audience is part and parcel of Americas problems right now, and we need smart people, not uninformed ‘culture warriors’.

    Comment by StratRat
    ----------------------------------------------------

    Don't the people who share his views have a place in the conversation?

    You sound as if you think he should just shut up...or be silenced.


  45. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Charlie napier; I thought this place makes you sick?

    You using TP as some sort of primitive weight-loss strategy or somethin'?


  46. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    His audience is part and parcel of Americas problems right now, and we need smart people, not uninformed ‘culture warriors’.

    Comment by StratRat
    —————————————————-

    Don’t the people who share his views have a place in the conversation?

    You sound as if you think he should just shut up…or be silenced.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:36 pm

    Can you point out where exactly StratRat said anybody should be "silenced"?

    Please Charlie, if you're going to try to keep up here, at least do it without distorting others' arguments or building straw men, okay?


  47. Charles James Napier Says:

    Just like fundamentalist Christian children.

    Comment by Zooey
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    I'm no religious fundamentalist, but I've never heard any Christian children calling for God to wipe out the Jews...or any other ethnic group for that matter.

    That's not a small difference.


  48. texaslady Says:

    #44 His views are concocted of whatever Murdock wants, O'Reilly is a sad, mean hearted man, along with Rush.


  49. Zooey Says:

    I’m no religious fundamentalist, but I’ve never heard any Christian children calling for God to wipe out the Jews…or any other ethnic group for that matter.

    That’s not a small difference.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:40 pm

    Watch "Jesus Camp." If you have a soul, it will make you weep.


  50. joe cantwell Says:

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:40 pm

    chuck, were you abused as a child?


  51. Dr. Matt Says:

    O'Reilly....exposed....hypocrite....enough said....


  52. tombaker Says:

    Once again, Charles' complete lack of historical knowledge leaves him looking the fool.

    (psssst. Chuck - the nazi germans were christians, as are our very own, homegrown Klansmen - both have advocated the extermination of other races/creeds)


  53. tombaker Says:

    Do the homeschoolers not let their kids study history, or what?


  54. Dr. Matt Says:

    I’m no religious fundamentalist, but I’ve never heard any Christian children calling for God to wipe out the Jews…or any other ethnic group for that matter.
    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:40 pm

    "Christian" adults on a daily basis proudly and enthusiastically call for the destruction and murder of all Muslims.


  55. Menehune Says:

    Bill evidently has "other priorities" when it comes to fighting certain parts of the war on Christmas.


  56. Dr. Matt Says:

    Why is TP so obsessed with Bill O’Reilly. Bill’s a friggin’ pervert.
    Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:45 pm

    Evil should be exposed.


  57. oldtree Says:

    a nooz station allows one of it's numbers to advertise for a friend?
    that is a prime example of the teevee. one large advertisement, all the time, no let up.
    but every american knows about what can fix their pecker, vaginal itch, herpes, but it won't stop the transmission of std, their depression, the Moleman-Grinsdorf syndrome that causes one in 130 million people to have a hair grow just there in your ear.

    If you keep watching this garbage, the only thing that is going to reward you is when he explodes on air, or one of his guests does something to him. otherwise, you are watching hatespew and it will affect you with constipation and other publicly offensive little issues.


  58. alpuz3 Says:

    I find an individual posting under the name Charles James Napier more than a tad bit disturbing.

    Creepy.

    "Come here instantly. Come here at once and make your submission, or I will in a week tear you from the midst of your village and hang you"

    -CJN

    Wave that freak flag high - I guess.


  59. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Charlie, you're in luck. Frank M is here.

    Frank makes you look like a Nobel laureate, Charlie.


  60. joe cantwell Says:

    Bill’s a friggin’ pervert.

    Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:45 pm

    that might explain why chuck's here – he was abused as a child.


  61. Charles James Napier Says:

    I thought this place makes you sick?
    ----------------------------------------------

    It does.

    Still, I'm intrigued by the psychology of the commenters here.

    What motivates you folks to while away your days in such a redundant and hate-filled enviornment?


  62. Charles James Napier Says:

    “Christian” adults on a daily basis proudly and enthusiastically call for the destruction and murder of all Muslims.

    Comment by Dr. Matt
    -------------------------------------------------------------

    Could you provide me a few examples?


  63. alpuz3 Says:


    Still, I’m intrigued by the psychology of the commenters here.

    What motivates you folks to while away your days in such a redundant and hate-filled enviornment?

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm

    heh. ho boy.


  64. Dave C Says:

    Still, I’m intrigued by the psychology of the commenters here.

    What motivates you folks to while away your days in such a redundant and hate-filled enviornment?

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm

    ... he says as he whiles away his day in what he feels is a redundant & hate-filled environment. That makes sense. You find it redundant & hate-filled... we don't. But you wonder why we spend time here while ignoring your own motives. You're as big a moron as O'Reilly.


  65. Namtillaku Says:

    You sound as if you think he should just shut up…or be silenced.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:36 pm

    Just educated. BillO is bigoted, racist, only has morals as long as it doesn't interfere with making money, and he's hateful. Hardly what I would call christian morals.

    Most christians in america, like most americans, are middle-class. These people (most americans) do not benefit in any way from BillO or BushCo. If you were to design an anti-christ, you couldn't do any better than this current wave of them.


  66. Saint Augustine Says:

    Jesus' General has a great post:

    Makris v. O'Reilly, The Opera

    http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2007/12/makris-v-oreilly-opera.html


  67. Dave C Says:

    #57: And who are you to say what’s evil and what’s not? No man is qualified to pass such judgement.

    Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm

    Oh come on Frank. GWB seems to think he's able to make that distinction. So does the topic of this thread, O'Reilly. Every Republican I've heard post on these boards & take office feels they are capable of determining evil... they see it everywhere.


  68. Luis M Says:

    #57: And who are you to say what’s evil and what’s not? No man is qualified to pass such judgement.
    Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm

    But but but what about the Axis of Evil, according to President Bush?

    Is he not qualified to pass judgement, as you claim? Or is he no man at all, but a godly presence sent here to us poor mortal humans, in order to bring us salvation and deliver us from the evil evilness of evil evildoers?

    Please, do tell! My sense of morality is shaking as I type this, and I fear for the well being of my immortal soul! Enlighten me, I beg of you!


  69. gummitch Says:

    #57: And who are you to say what’s evil and what’s not? No man is qualified to pass such judgement.

    Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm

    You just passed judgment on Bill O'Reilly by calling him a pervert. Now you're passing judgment on someone else for passing judgment. Do you see how this appears to be hypocritcal?


  70. Namtillaku Says:

    What motivates you folks to while away your days in such a redundant and hate-filled enviornment?

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm

    Fighting against anti-christs, fascists, fear-mongers, war-mongers, and people who put money above all else is a virtue. It's fighting the good fight.


  71. EvilPoet Says:

    #63 - That includes Bush, right?


  72. joe cantwell Says:

    Bill’s a friggin’ pervert.

    Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:45 pm

    And who are you to say what’s evil and what’s not? No man is qualified to pass such judgement.

    Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm

    ooops, someone here thinks they're "qualified" frankie.

    eh?

    ps - frankie were you abused as a child? (don't answer if you were)


  73. tombaker Says:

    It only becomes redundant after the trolls show up, waving their unicorns around, demanding attention.

    What is it about the psychoilogy of trolls, that keeps them coming back?

    (other than the benefits of learning some history and improving their vocabularies?)


  74. Dr. Matt Says:

    Could you provide me a few examples?

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:49 pm

    We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war. ~ mAnn Coulter

    Yee-haw! This is the America -- this is the America that those Islamic-fascist, robe-wearing, throwback bums have never seen! Let's get it on! Let's bring it on! Bomb Iran, bring our boys home now! Bomb Iran, bring our boys home now! Bomb Iran, bring our boys home now! Let's get it on! Bomb Iran, bring our boys home now! Wipe Hezbollah out of America! Cut the tentacles of Iran off! Cut the tentacles of that octopus off now! Get every hunter in America armed to the teeth! Throwback bastards! I'm so sick of them! I'm so sick of the brainwashing about Islam and Muslims and the Koran! Shove it! Shove it all! I'm sick of it!~ Weiner-Savage


  75. Charles James Napier Says:

    Fighting against anti-christs, fascists, fear-mongers, war-mongers, and people who put money above all else is a virtue. It’s fighting the good fight.

    Comment by Namtillaku
    ---------------------------------------------

    Oh, so that's what you think you're doing.

    Well, keep fighting that good fight!...and give those fascists one good kick in the pants for me.

    Adios.


  76. Dr. Matt Says:

    #57: And who are you to say what’s evil and what’s not? No man is qualified to pass such judgement.
    Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm

    Who exactly are you to claim "no man is qualified to pass such judgement [sic]"?

    O'Racist claimed that anyone that reads DKos is a Nazi and worships the devil. Where is your fake outrage?


  77. Shayne Says:

    You sound as if you think he should just shut up…or be silenced.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:36 pm

    No we think he should be challenged and mocked. See, that's what we're trying to do here. And when we have whining children like you hanging around at least we know somebody is hearing our mockery.


  78. Shayne Says:

    Once again, Charles’ complete lack of historical knowledge leaves him looking the fool.

    Comment by tombaker — December 14, 2007 @ 12:44 pm

    Now be fair, almost everything he says makes him look like a fool, why limit it to his lack of historical knowleedge?


  79. joe cantwell Says:

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 1:07 pm

    "adios"?

    chuckie, winners never quit and quitters never win.


  80. Shayne Says:

    Bill’s a friggin’ pervert.

    Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:45 pm

    that might explain why chuck’s here – he was abused as a child.

    Comment by joe cantwell — December 14, 2007 @ 12:47 pm

    I just choked on my water, too funny.


  81. Charles James Napier Says:

    chuckie, winners never quit and quitters never win.

    Comment by joe cantwell
    ----------------------------------------------

    Or as the great Charles Bukowski once said:

    "If you never gamble, you'll never win"

    Gotta go...but worry not, I'll come visit next week.


  82. Wayne Says:

    You sound as if you think he should just shut up…or be silenced.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:36 pm

    You mean like Bush tries to silence those who disagree with him?
    We don't believe in that, only you Republicans do.


  83. Zooey Says:

    Gotta go…but worry not, I’ll come visit next week.
    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 1:16 pm

    I'm all tingly with anticipation. :P


  84. joe cantwell Says:

    Gotta go…but worry not, I’ll come visit next week.

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 1:16 pm

    why bother? you don't really care.


  85. tombaker Says:

    "challenged and mocked" - - u go shayne!!

    best chuckle so far today


  86. StratRat Says:

    Gotta go…but worry not, I’ll come visit next week.

    Comment by Charles James Napier

    Thanks for the warning, chuckles...Don't let the blog hit you in the arse on yer way out.


  87. Wayne Says:

    Still, I’m intrigued by the psychology of the commenters here.
    What motivates you folks to while away your days in such a redundant and hate-filled enviornment?
    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm

    I think I recognize this Chuckie troll. I'm pretty sure its an old troll under a different name.

    He always posts projection or strawmen and never has any factual backing to his argument. He never has any factual basis to defend his statement

    His moniker choice, a militant british general who was also the ruthless governor of Sind ( now part of Pakistan ) after he conquered Sind in 1843 speaks volumes about his personality.
    What is the psychology of someone who identifies himself with a ruthless person?
    I’m disgusted by the psychology of this troll here.


  88. slappy magoo Says:

    What motivates you folks to while away your days in such a redundant and hate-filled enviornment?

    Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm

    Because, sadly, people like you are easily influenced by loudmouth zealots. ANd then you go out and vote. Since intelligence is not a prnrequisite to voting, the best we can do is expose the hypocrisy, maybe then, people won't be so easily fooled into voting for tards like Bush again.

    You're welcome.


  89. MapleStreet Says:

    But didn't O'Reilly announce the other day that he had "won" the war on Christmas ?

    If he won, then there is no more war. "Mission Accomplished" banners hang from the flight deck.

    Oh, wrong war.


  90. Jeremy in Denver Says:

    Again, this is the same thing as the hypocrisy shown when the guy went from lamenting that that cute black girl on the weight machine 'couldn't see anyone else' because of the ring on her finger to 'You heathen, you're going to hell!' when he found out the cute black girl was bi.

    'Do as I say, not as I do.' Any surprise that O'Reilly is a hypocrite? And any surprise that Frank M and Daryll support him?

    Heh.


  91. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Nice job, Frank. That was a lot of words you typed. If we can just get you to start making sense, we may have something.

    "Every significant leader in the history has been ruthless to the bone"? Like George Washington, right. He ordered his men to treat British prisoners with dignity, but I hear he was vicious when he was playing whist.

    And Ghandi. That man was a snake. Kill you as soon as look at you. And Martin Luther King, too.

    And JESUS! There was a significant leader in history, no? What a back-stabber, eh, Frank?


  92. tombaker Says:

    go ralph, u crazy astute dromedary so-and-so!!!!!


  93. tombaker Says:

    I thought Frank was going to end up at Ralph Nader, the way his post was tracking.


  94. Squeaky Wheels Says:

    And so, Frank M, how does Bill O'Reilly with his bogus "War on Christmas" compare to LeMay?


  95. Xisithrus Says:

    I thought Bile won his straw-man war on Santa Klaus.


  96. Xisithrus Says:

    Oreilly Seems to think Christ is Jesus' last name. Its not. Christ means messiah.

    Happy Messiah!


  97. tombaker Says:

    that's just as incoherent as it gets, frank.


  98. bilbobaggins Says:

    You sound as if you think he should just shut up…or be silenced.
    Comment by Charles James Napier

    I don't think he should shut up or be silenced. I do believe that he should tell the truth, though. And to O'Reilly, truth is what he says it is, not what is real. The guy is a sociopath and anyone who watches him is pretty much brain dead. You would have to be brain dead to watch him for more than 5 minutes.


  99. bilbobaggins Says:

    that’s just as incoherent as it gets, frank.
    Comment by tombaker

    I gotta agree with you on that one Tom. Francine's mental breakdown is proceeding at a rapid clip these days. Pretty soon he's going to go off the rails completely.


  100. barfly Says:

    "Every significant leader in the history has been ruthless to the bone - some of them have simply been able to sugarcoat it better than others. You can’t create nations, lead revolutions (or squash them) or force profound changes in a human society without being ruthless."

    Some examples of Eisenhower's ruthlessness?


  101. Jesusinasidecar Says:

    I just did my xmas shopping B&N, and as I always do, I either hid or turned backwards or upside down books from bor, hannity, coulter, inghram, as well as any other wingnut author who occupied a full front cover position, replacing them with reasonable, progressive titles.

    Am I a nazi?

    Jesus


  102. Shayne Says:

    Oreilly Seems to think Christ is Jesus’ last name. Its not. Christ means messiah.

    Happy Messiah!

    Comment by Xisithrus — December 14, 2007 @ 2:59 pm

    Not to mention Christ himself was more likely to utter the words Happy Holidays than Merry Christmas, don't you think. Or Chag Sameach actually.


  103. Shayne Says:

    I thought Bile won his straw-man war on Santa Klaus.

    Comment by Xisithrus — December 14, 2007 @ 2:55 pm

    Yeah but then he had to go yell "Bring 'em on!" and start his crap all over.


  104. Shayne Says:

    As far as Jesus goes, he was ruthless to the extreme.

    Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 3:02 pm

    Jesus, ruthless? Do explain.


  105. dbadass Says:

    There is no war on Christmas but please don't tell because the fantasy brings me such amusement. It is marketing schtick for some dumbasses hoping to garbner ratings. Bill doesn't belive the shit he says anymore than Rush does, Howard Stern or anyone else. Those who believe this stuff are being played


  106. tombaker Says:

    "This so-called ill treatment and torture in detention centers, stories of which were spread everywhere among the people, and later by the prisoners who were freed were not, as some assumed, inflicted methodically, but were excesses committed by individual prison guards, their deputies, and men who laid violent hands on the detainees"

    Frank - would you say you agree with the above?


  107. curmudgeon Says:

    Yes, we couldn't possibly risk having Barnes & Noble display Falafel Boy's book in a lower-visibility part of the store, now could we?


  108. dbadass Says:

    113
    It would be great if all customers also had to spell run as the bent over to examine this tripe


  109. Shayne Says:

    Frank left before telling us about how "ruthless" Jesus was? How surprising!


  110. Gregor Samsa Says:

    because they sell a lot of book at Barnes and Noble,”

    O'Reilly obviously meant that Barnes and Noble sells a lot of his books.


  111. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Frank seems to have a different definition than most of us have for the word "ruthless". Frank seems to think that when a general is forced to make a difficult decision that he knows will cost the lives of some of his men in order to accomplish a greater military objective, he's exhibiting "ruthlessness".

    In other words, rather than backtrack a half step and admit that his earlier statement about every leader being "ruthless" was foolish, Frank is predictably trapped into extending his foolishness.

    Frank is so much fun.


  112. barfly Says:

    "One example is the battle of Kasserine Pass. He knew that the men weren’t trained properly (yet) and that there was a problem with the general staff, but he had to send them against Rommel’s battle-hardened Afrika Korps. The Brits were going and the French Morocco was defended by Vichy France troops who were itching to fight the Brits (the British attack on the French fleet earlier that year) - the entire campaign had to look like it was led by the Americans in order to minimize armed conflict with the French.

    So, he sent the GIs in and it was a disaster. That price had to be paid for the foothold in Africa."

    Comment by Frank M

    That wasn't ruthlessness. It was dealing with the realities of the situation.


  113. Sabyen91 Says:

    "He must be a pretty bad guy for the people who run this site to spend so much time parcing his every word."

    Well, yeah, he is. Thanks for noticing.


  114. Gabe Says:

    Do O’Reilly’s personal book sales take precedent over fighting the “War On Christmas?

    Of course they do!! O'Lielly's thirst for the $$$$ is so great that he could become a televangeli$t in the mold of Roberts, Robberson, Foulwell, Joyce Meyer, Cashflow Dollar, Benny Hinn, the Crouches, and all the other God-botherers whose mantra is "Let us prey"



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