Yesterday, the right-wing group Focus on the Family released “The Attack on Christmas 2007, a list of businesses that advertise during the holidays. Barnes & Noble (B&N) is listed in the “Ugly” category for “censor[ing]” Christmas in holiday advertising.
On The O’Reilly Factor yesterday, the group’s Carrie Gordon Earll and Bill O’Reilly — a fighter in the War on Christmas — slammed the business community for “avoiding using the word Christmas.”
But when Earll criticized B&N for “intentionally removing the word Christmas” and “using that holiday theme,” O’Reilly cowered. “We got - now Barnes and Noble, they say to be fair to them, because they sell a lot of book at Barnes and Noble,” he said:
EARLL: And I’m going to spend my money some place that’s not scared to wish me a Merry Christmas.
O’REILLY: And I think a lot of people feel the same way, which is why we reversed the trend, but I’m not going to come down hard on Barnes & Noble. I think, you know, Dick Sporting Goods, you know, they may want to rethink this.
Watch it:
O’Reilly, author of seven books, recently released Kids Are Americans Too. Over the years, he has bragged about a chummy relationship with America’s largest bookstore:
– The Riggio brothers, who run B&N, are good guys and are doing the right thing. Corporate dignity is important and never ridiculous. [8/21/07]
– Barnes & Noble has been great to us, as are all the retailers. [10/3/06]
– I have a good relationship with the CEO, Len Riggio, and he wouldn’t do anything underhanded. [10/25/05]
After giving B&N a pass, O’Reilly ended the show shilling for his books: “Finally, time for the mail. Tons of it last night. But first, a big thank you for making the paperback of Culture Warrior a huge hit.”
Do O’Reilly’s personal book sales take precedent over fighting the “War On Christmas?”
selective morality. How unchristian.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:54 amThe truth is out.... the War on Christmas only applies where it doesn't interfere with crass commercialism....
December 14th, 2007 at 11:57 amThat's too hilarious, especially considering the fact that Barnes and Noble has long been considered a "blue company', sending most of their political donations to Democrats. (Can't remember the exact percentage, but a lot.)
In fact, they were supporting Democrats when it wasn't even the thing to do. (Unlike today when corporate America can see the writing on the wall.)
December 14th, 2007 at 11:57 amDo O’Reilly’s personal book sales take precedent over fighting the “War On Christmas?â€
Don't make me laugh. Of course. The neocon thought process selectively exempts anybody or anything essential to his own interests.
This is why so many right wingers are vehemently in favor of deporting all illegals immediately. EXCEPT their gardener, their nanny, etc.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:58 ambtw:
Hello Everybody.
:)
December 14th, 2007 at 11:58 amHow transparently greedy,Loofah Man!
December 14th, 2007 at 12:00 pmB&N are Orally's Halliburton. Mercenaries in his war on Christmas.
That's why Billy looks the other way.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:00 pmHi to you,Frosty! Maybe his book sells well there? What personal greed.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:01 pmWHY don't these "war on Christmas" zealots publish a list of retailers who DO use the word "Christmas" in their advertising and in their greetings to customers?
There are so many who have chosen not to that it's impossible to assemble a comprehensive list. Therefore, the "Christmas warriors" just cherry-pick retailers they especially want to target.
Not that it's going to matter. If a consumer wants to buy a Nintendo Wii, he/she will buy it from a retailer that has them in stock -- no matter what the cashier says to them on their way out.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:01 pmYou folks sure do hate this Bill O'Reilly fellow.
He must be a pretty bad guy for the people who run this site to spend so much time parcing his every word.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:02 pmWhen I see O'Liely's face on these threads, I am physically nauseated to the point of not spending much time even writing about someone who has made himself so totally irrelevant to the american lanscape. Yawn, yawn.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:02 pmCharlesJames: Yawn, yawn pretty much sums it up for me. He's a known con artist and liar - so why bother? I agree with you - Billy O's totally irrelevant.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:03 pmBill O doesn't want to p!ss off the buyers at Barnes & Noble, that's for sure. He'd find his books buried on the bottom shelf, stuffed behind the latest home improvement volumes.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:04 pmAnd he's not an especially creative or intelligent con artist to boot. He's a very "ho hum con artist" who deserves no attention.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:04 pmgummitch: you got it.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:04 pmHe must be a pretty bad guy for the people who run this site to spend so much time parcing his every word.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
He's a pompous blowhard. It's always fun to point out the hypocrisy of pompous blowhards.
Why do you hate fun?
December 14th, 2007 at 12:05 pmWhat a transparent and overt distraction technique this is - focusing on the word Christmas when some of our patriots will die before they can get home for Christmas, if they are even scheduled to do so. How sick.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:05 pmgummitch: He hates fun because he's a reptard, that's why.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:06 pmMaybe Loofah will come up with the next distraction technique: Focusing on New Year's Eve??
December 14th, 2007 at 12:06 pmThis is just another battle in the 'conservative's' War on Reality.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:09 pmOther battles include the War on Science, the War on Common Sense, the War on Basic Human Rights, the War on Enlightenment, and not least, the War on the US Constitution.
Aww, geeeez.....Billo makes himself a joke, without help from a single "SP".
Think what he could accomplish with our help.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:09 pmYou folks sure do hate this Bill O’Reilly fellow.
He must be a pretty bad guy for the people who run this site to spend so much time parcing his every word.
Comment by Charles James Napier
Well, he is your spokesperson, isn't he? He is hypocritical and unAmerican - both traits that can be placed at your feet. He is a blight on the national landscape and a small number of bedwetters hang on his every word. Why they do that, I do not know. Your side seems to value what he has to say.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:10 pmYou folks sure do hate this Bill O’Reilly fellow.
He must be a pretty bad guy for the people who run this site to spend so much time parcing his every word.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
chuck you couldn't be more right. he is a pretty bad guy.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:10 pmWell I see TP is back to lot's of shit for o'lilie again.....There are other thing's to post on....Off I go to some other more interesting site's that don't donate time to this sack of shit...
December 14th, 2007 at 12:11 pmWell, he is your spokesperson, isn’t he? He is hypocritical and unAmerican - both traits that can be placed at your feet. He is a blight on the national landscape and a small number of bedwetters hang on his every word. Why they do that, I do not know. Your side seems to value what he has to say.
Comment by StratRat — December 14, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
agreed. but chuck isn't that kind of cowboy. he's straight, ok?
chuck, your thoughts?
December 14th, 2007 at 12:11 pmComment by Witch1 — December 14, 2007 @ 12:11 pm
you'll be missed.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:12 pmStratRat,
I've never paid much attention to him, but I do like the way he gets a rise out of you all.
Very amusing.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:14 pmGee I am so glad to have a "list" of good and bad companies to do my shopping with. Does anyone really listen to this bunch seriously, I would think it would just be for having a laugh at the ridiculous monalog after a stressful day, sorta like a cartoon.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:18 pmO'Reilly's just a typical blowhard, sometimes he's right, sometimes he's wrong....Not my cup of tea, but he's not exactly evil.
I reserve my anger for this type of television:
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1625.htm
December 14th, 2007 at 12:18 pmHe's not a very committed culture warrior, is he?
Happy Holidays, Bill!
December 14th, 2007 at 12:21 pmhttp://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1625.htm
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:18 pm
chuck, the link doesn't work.
btw, you are straight, right?
December 14th, 2007 at 12:21 pmps - chuck the link doesn't work, could you tell us about this anger of yours?
December 14th, 2007 at 12:23 pmI’ve never paid much attention to him, but I do like the way he gets a rise out of you all.
Very amusing.
Comment by Charles James Napier
I think you missed the point.
The point being Bill-O only has a show because folks tune in. Commercially, the 28%r's keep him in business, and on the air. Those same uninformed souls buy his books - which furthers his images of relevance. If Bill-O's followers didn't procreate or vote, I wouldn't care one toss about him.
His audience is part and parcel of Americas problems right now, and we need smart people, not uninformed 'culture warriors'.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:25 pmJust a thought wonder why Rush and Bill haven't taken up the Halliburton case against the victim. You know, she was obviously enjoying being locked in a cargo container against her will. They seem to enjoy being sadistic.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:26 pmComment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:18 pm
Why don't you reserve your judgment for the adults influencing those children? Fundamentalism of any flavor is dangerous.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:26 pmIf I wanted to know what that disingenuous sociopath had to say on a daily basis, I would... you know... watch him.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:27 pmTheir bad guys unless he makes money off their sales, then it's the old Republican values again. Slam anyone you don't like for no damn reason, just maybe that black heart of his, and reward anyone who you profit from.
Bush/Cheney/Bill OIQ
Hague Trials '09
Buck Fush
December 14th, 2007 at 12:31 pmVery amusing.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:14 pm
Gee, Chuckles... we must be pretty important to have you come here and parse out our every statement!
Tootles!
Tres amusing, as the French would say.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:33 pmZooey,
Why don’t you reserve your judgment for the adults influencing those children?
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That's exactly what I do.
Those poor children are brain-washed from the most tender age, like nazi youth.
Very sad.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:33 pmI'm really tired hearing about O'Reilly ...the guy is a multi millionaire jerk who plays a leading role in the dumbing down of America.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:34 pmThose poor children are brain-washed from the most tender age, like nazi youth.
Very sad.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:33 pm
Just like fundamentalist Christian children.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:35 pmInteresting how these guys love them some free market system, except when a marketing decision that makes good business sense (inclusive of all potential customers in its advertising) rubs them the wrong way.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:36 pmComment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:33 pm
chuck, is this your way of saying that you were brain-washed too? very sad. tell us more about it, if you can.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:36 pmHis audience is part and parcel of Americas problems right now, and we need smart people, not uninformed ‘culture warriors’.
Comment by StratRat
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Don't the people who share his views have a place in the conversation?
You sound as if you think he should just shut up...or be silenced.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:36 pmCharlie napier; I thought this place makes you sick?
You using TP as some sort of primitive weight-loss strategy or somethin'?
December 14th, 2007 at 12:37 pmHis audience is part and parcel of Americas problems right now, and we need smart people, not uninformed ‘culture warriors’.
Comment by StratRat
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Don’t the people who share his views have a place in the conversation?
You sound as if you think he should just shut up…or be silenced.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
Can you point out where exactly StratRat said anybody should be "silenced"?
Please Charlie, if you're going to try to keep up here, at least do it without distorting others' arguments or building straw men, okay?
December 14th, 2007 at 12:39 pmJust like fundamentalist Christian children.
Comment by Zooey
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I'm no religious fundamentalist, but I've never heard any Christian children calling for God to wipe out the Jews...or any other ethnic group for that matter.
That's not a small difference.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:40 pm#44 His views are concocted of whatever Murdock wants, O'Reilly is a sad, mean hearted man, along with Rush.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:41 pmI’m no religious fundamentalist, but I’ve never heard any Christian children calling for God to wipe out the Jews…or any other ethnic group for that matter.
That’s not a small difference.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
Watch "Jesus Camp." If you have a soul, it will make you weep.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:42 pmComment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
chuck, were you abused as a child?
December 14th, 2007 at 12:42 pmO'Reilly....exposed....hypocrite....enough said....
December 14th, 2007 at 12:43 pmOnce again, Charles' complete lack of historical knowledge leaves him looking the fool.
(psssst. Chuck - the nazi germans were christians, as are our very own, homegrown Klansmen - both have advocated the extermination of other races/creeds)
December 14th, 2007 at 12:44 pmDo the homeschoolers not let their kids study history, or what?
December 14th, 2007 at 12:44 pmI’m no religious fundamentalist, but I’ve never heard any Christian children calling for God to wipe out the Jews…or any other ethnic group for that matter.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
"Christian" adults on a daily basis proudly and enthusiastically call for the destruction and murder of all Muslims.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:45 pmBill evidently has "other priorities" when it comes to fighting certain parts of the war on Christmas.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:46 pmWhy is TP so obsessed with Bill O’Reilly. Bill’s a friggin’ pervert.
Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:45 pm
Evil should be exposed.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:47 pma nooz station allows one of it's numbers to advertise for a friend?
that is a prime example of the teevee. one large advertisement, all the time, no let up.
but every american knows about what can fix their pecker, vaginal itch, herpes, but it won't stop the transmission of std, their depression, the Moleman-Grinsdorf syndrome that causes one in 130 million people to have a hair grow just there in your ear.
If you keep watching this garbage, the only thing that is going to reward you is when he explodes on air, or one of his guests does something to him. otherwise, you are watching hatespew and it will affect you with constipation and other publicly offensive little issues.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:47 pmI find an individual posting under the name Charles James Napier more than a tad bit disturbing.
Creepy.
"Come here instantly. Come here at once and make your submission, or I will in a week tear you from the midst of your village and hang you"
-CJN
Wave that freak flag high - I guess.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:47 pmCharlie, you're in luck. Frank M is here.
Frank makes you look like a Nobel laureate, Charlie.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:47 pmBill’s a friggin’ pervert.
Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:45 pm
that might explain why chuck's here – he was abused as a child.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:47 pmI thought this place makes you sick?
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It does.
Still, I'm intrigued by the psychology of the commenters here.
What motivates you folks to while away your days in such a redundant and hate-filled enviornment?
December 14th, 2007 at 12:48 pm“Christian†adults on a daily basis proudly and enthusiastically call for the destruction and murder of all Muslims.
Comment by Dr. Matt
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Could you provide me a few examples?
December 14th, 2007 at 12:49 pmStill, I’m intrigued by the psychology of the commenters here.
What motivates you folks to while away your days in such a redundant and hate-filled enviornment?
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
heh. ho boy.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:50 pmStill, I’m intrigued by the psychology of the commenters here.
What motivates you folks to while away your days in such a redundant and hate-filled enviornment?
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
... he says as he whiles away his day in what he feels is a redundant & hate-filled environment. That makes sense. You find it redundant & hate-filled... we don't. But you wonder why we spend time here while ignoring your own motives. You're as big a moron as O'Reilly.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:50 pmYou sound as if you think he should just shut up…or be silenced.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
Just educated. BillO is bigoted, racist, only has morals as long as it doesn't interfere with making money, and he's hateful. Hardly what I would call christian morals.
Most christians in america, like most americans, are middle-class. These people (most americans) do not benefit in any way from BillO or BushCo. If you were to design an anti-christ, you couldn't do any better than this current wave of them.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:50 pmJesus' General has a great post:
Makris v. O'Reilly, The Opera
http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2007/12/makris-v-oreilly-opera.html
December 14th, 2007 at 12:51 pm#57: And who are you to say what’s evil and what’s not? No man is qualified to pass such judgement.
Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
Oh come on Frank. GWB seems to think he's able to make that distinction. So does the topic of this thread, O'Reilly. Every Republican I've heard post on these boards & take office feels they are capable of determining evil... they see it everywhere.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:52 pm#57: And who are you to say what’s evil and what’s not? No man is qualified to pass such judgement.
Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
But but but what about the Axis of Evil, according to President Bush?
Is he not qualified to pass judgement, as you claim? Or is he no man at all, but a godly presence sent here to us poor mortal humans, in order to bring us salvation and deliver us from the evil evilness of evil evildoers?
Please, do tell! My sense of morality is shaking as I type this, and I fear for the well being of my immortal soul! Enlighten me, I beg of you!
December 14th, 2007 at 12:52 pm#57: And who are you to say what’s evil and what’s not? No man is qualified to pass such judgement.
Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
You just passed judgment on Bill O'Reilly by calling him a pervert. Now you're passing judgment on someone else for passing judgment. Do you see how this appears to be hypocritcal?
December 14th, 2007 at 12:53 pmWhat motivates you folks to while away your days in such a redundant and hate-filled enviornment?
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
Fighting against anti-christs, fascists, fear-mongers, war-mongers, and people who put money above all else is a virtue. It's fighting the good fight.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:53 pm#63 - That includes Bush, right?
December 14th, 2007 at 12:53 pmBill’s a friggin’ pervert.
Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:45 pm
And who are you to say what’s evil and what’s not? No man is qualified to pass such judgement.
Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
ooops, someone here thinks they're "qualified" frankie.
eh?
ps - frankie were you abused as a child? (don't answer if you were)
December 14th, 2007 at 1:00 pmIt only becomes redundant after the trolls show up, waving their unicorns around, demanding attention.
What is it about the psychoilogy of trolls, that keeps them coming back?
(other than the benefits of learning some history and improving their vocabularies?)
December 14th, 2007 at 1:03 pmCould you provide me a few examples?
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war. ~ mAnn Coulter
Yee-haw! This is the America -- this is the America that those Islamic-fascist, robe-wearing, throwback bums have never seen! Let's get it on! Let's bring it on! Bomb Iran, bring our boys home now! Bomb Iran, bring our boys home now! Bomb Iran, bring our boys home now! Let's get it on! Bomb Iran, bring our boys home now! Wipe Hezbollah out of America! Cut the tentacles of Iran off! Cut the tentacles of that octopus off now! Get every hunter in America armed to the teeth! Throwback bastards! I'm so sick of them! I'm so sick of the brainwashing about Islam and Muslims and the Koran! Shove it! Shove it all! I'm sick of it!~ Weiner-Savage
December 14th, 2007 at 1:07 pmFighting against anti-christs, fascists, fear-mongers, war-mongers, and people who put money above all else is a virtue. It’s fighting the good fight.
Comment by Namtillaku
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Oh, so that's what you think you're doing.
Well, keep fighting that good fight!...and give those fascists one good kick in the pants for me.
Adios.
December 14th, 2007 at 1:07 pm#57: And who are you to say what’s evil and what’s not? No man is qualified to pass such judgement.
Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
Who exactly are you to claim "no man is qualified to pass such judgement [sic]"?
O'Racist claimed that anyone that reads DKos is a Nazi and worships the devil. Where is your fake outrage?
December 14th, 2007 at 1:08 pmYou sound as if you think he should just shut up…or be silenced.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
No we think he should be challenged and mocked. See, that's what we're trying to do here. And when we have whining children like you hanging around at least we know somebody is hearing our mockery.
December 14th, 2007 at 1:09 pmOnce again, Charles’ complete lack of historical knowledge leaves him looking the fool.
Comment by tombaker — December 14, 2007 @ 12:44 pm
Now be fair, almost everything he says makes him look like a fool, why limit it to his lack of historical knowleedge?
December 14th, 2007 at 1:12 pmComment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 1:07 pm
"adios"?
chuckie, winners never quit and quitters never win.
December 14th, 2007 at 1:12 pmBill’s a friggin’ pervert.
Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 12:45 pm
that might explain why chuck’s here – he was abused as a child.
Comment by joe cantwell — December 14, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
I just choked on my water, too funny.
December 14th, 2007 at 1:14 pmchuckie, winners never quit and quitters never win.
Comment by joe cantwell
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Or as the great Charles Bukowski once said:
"If you never gamble, you'll never win"
Gotta go...but worry not, I'll come visit next week.
December 14th, 2007 at 1:16 pmYou sound as if you think he should just shut up…or be silenced.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
You mean like Bush tries to silence those who disagree with him?
December 14th, 2007 at 1:16 pmWe don't believe in that, only you Republicans do.
Gotta go…but worry not, I’ll come visit next week.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
I'm all tingly with anticipation. :P
December 14th, 2007 at 1:17 pmGotta go…but worry not, I’ll come visit next week.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
why bother? you don't really care.
December 14th, 2007 at 1:18 pm"challenged and mocked" - - u go shayne!!
best chuckle so far today
December 14th, 2007 at 1:21 pmGotta go…but worry not, I’ll come visit next week.
Comment by Charles James Napier
Thanks for the warning, chuckles...Don't let the blog hit you in the arse on yer way out.
December 14th, 2007 at 1:28 pmStill, I’m intrigued by the psychology of the commenters here.
What motivates you folks to while away your days in such a redundant and hate-filled enviornment?
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
I think I recognize this Chuckie troll. I'm pretty sure its an old troll under a different name.
He always posts projection or strawmen and never has any factual backing to his argument. He never has any factual basis to defend his statement
His moniker choice, a militant british general who was also the ruthless governor of Sind ( now part of Pakistan ) after he conquered Sind in 1843 speaks volumes about his personality.
December 14th, 2007 at 1:37 pmWhat is the psychology of someone who identifies himself with a ruthless person?
I’m disgusted by the psychology of this troll here.
What motivates you folks to while away your days in such a redundant and hate-filled enviornment?
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 14, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
Because, sadly, people like you are easily influenced by loudmouth zealots. ANd then you go out and vote. Since intelligence is not a prnrequisite to voting, the best we can do is expose the hypocrisy, maybe then, people won't be so easily fooled into voting for tards like Bush again.
You're welcome.
December 14th, 2007 at 1:42 pmBut didn't O'Reilly announce the other day that he had "won" the war on Christmas ?
If he won, then there is no more war. "Mission Accomplished" banners hang from the flight deck.
Oh, wrong war.
December 14th, 2007 at 2:04 pmAgain, this is the same thing as the hypocrisy shown when the guy went from lamenting that that cute black girl on the weight machine 'couldn't see anyone else' because of the ring on her finger to 'You heathen, you're going to hell!' when he found out the cute black girl was bi.
'Do as I say, not as I do.' Any surprise that O'Reilly is a hypocrite? And any surprise that Frank M and Daryll support him?
Heh.
December 14th, 2007 at 2:24 pmNice job, Frank. That was a lot of words you typed. If we can just get you to start making sense, we may have something.
"Every significant leader in the history has been ruthless to the bone"? Like George Washington, right. He ordered his men to treat British prisoners with dignity, but I hear he was vicious when he was playing whist.
And Ghandi. That man was a snake. Kill you as soon as look at you. And Martin Luther King, too.
And JESUS! There was a significant leader in history, no? What a back-stabber, eh, Frank?
December 14th, 2007 at 2:31 pmgo ralph, u crazy astute dromedary so-and-so!!!!!
December 14th, 2007 at 2:35 pmI thought Frank was going to end up at Ralph Nader, the way his post was tracking.
December 14th, 2007 at 2:36 pmAnd so, Frank M, how does Bill O'Reilly with his bogus "War on Christmas" compare to LeMay?
December 14th, 2007 at 2:49 pmI thought Bile won his straw-man war on Santa Klaus.
December 14th, 2007 at 2:55 pmOreilly Seems to think Christ is Jesus' last name. Its not. Christ means messiah.
Happy Messiah!
December 14th, 2007 at 2:59 pmthat's just as incoherent as it gets, frank.
December 14th, 2007 at 3:04 pmYou sound as if you think he should just shut up…or be silenced.
Comment by Charles James Napier
I don't think he should shut up or be silenced. I do believe that he should tell the truth, though. And to O'Reilly, truth is what he says it is, not what is real. The guy is a sociopath and anyone who watches him is pretty much brain dead. You would have to be brain dead to watch him for more than 5 minutes.
December 14th, 2007 at 3:17 pmthat’s just as incoherent as it gets, frank.
Comment by tombaker
I gotta agree with you on that one Tom. Francine's mental breakdown is proceeding at a rapid clip these days. Pretty soon he's going to go off the rails completely.
December 14th, 2007 at 3:18 pm"Every significant leader in the history has been ruthless to the bone - some of them have simply been able to sugarcoat it better than others. You can’t create nations, lead revolutions (or squash them) or force profound changes in a human society without being ruthless."
Some examples of Eisenhower's ruthlessness?
December 14th, 2007 at 3:28 pmI just did my xmas shopping B&N, and as I always do, I either hid or turned backwards or upside down books from bor, hannity, coulter, inghram, as well as any other wingnut author who occupied a full front cover position, replacing them with reasonable, progressive titles.
Am I a nazi?
Jesus
December 14th, 2007 at 3:33 pmOreilly Seems to think Christ is Jesus’ last name. Its not. Christ means messiah.
Happy Messiah!
Comment by Xisithrus — December 14, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
Not to mention Christ himself was more likely to utter the words Happy Holidays than Merry Christmas, don't you think. Or Chag Sameach actually.
December 14th, 2007 at 3:36 pmI thought Bile won his straw-man war on Santa Klaus.
Comment by Xisithrus — December 14, 2007 @ 2:55 pm
Yeah but then he had to go yell "Bring 'em on!" and start his crap all over.
December 14th, 2007 at 3:36 pmAs far as Jesus goes, he was ruthless to the extreme.
Comment by Frank M — December 14, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
Jesus, ruthless? Do explain.
December 14th, 2007 at 3:38 pmThere is no war on Christmas but please don't tell because the fantasy brings me such amusement. It is marketing schtick for some dumbasses hoping to garbner ratings. Bill doesn't belive the shit he says anymore than Rush does, Howard Stern or anyone else. Those who believe this stuff are being played
December 14th, 2007 at 3:58 pm"This so-called ill treatment and torture in detention centers, stories of which were spread everywhere among the people, and later by the prisoners who were freed were not, as some assumed, inflicted methodically, but were excesses committed by individual prison guards, their deputies, and men who laid violent hands on the detainees"
Frank - would you say you agree with the above?
December 14th, 2007 at 4:31 pmYes, we couldn't possibly risk having Barnes & Noble display Falafel Boy's book in a lower-visibility part of the store, now could we?
December 14th, 2007 at 4:51 pm113
December 14th, 2007 at 5:02 pmIt would be great if all customers also had to spell run as the bent over to examine this tripe
Frank left before telling us about how "ruthless" Jesus was? How surprising!
December 14th, 2007 at 5:29 pmbecause they sell a lot of book at Barnes and Noble,â€
O'Reilly obviously meant that Barnes and Noble sells a lot of his books.
December 14th, 2007 at 7:10 pmFrank seems to have a different definition than most of us have for the word "ruthless". Frank seems to think that when a general is forced to make a difficult decision that he knows will cost the lives of some of his men in order to accomplish a greater military objective, he's exhibiting "ruthlessness".
In other words, rather than backtrack a half step and admit that his earlier statement about every leader being "ruthless" was foolish, Frank is predictably trapped into extending his foolishness.
Frank is so much fun.
December 14th, 2007 at 8:19 pm"One example is the battle of Kasserine Pass. He knew that the men weren’t trained properly (yet) and that there was a problem with the general staff, but he had to send them against Rommel’s battle-hardened Afrika Korps. The Brits were going and the French Morocco was defended by Vichy France troops who were itching to fight the Brits (the British attack on the French fleet earlier that year) - the entire campaign had to look like it was led by the Americans in order to minimize armed conflict with the French.
So, he sent the GIs in and it was a disaster. That price had to be paid for the foothold in Africa."
Comment by Frank M
That wasn't ruthlessness. It was dealing with the realities of the situation.
December 14th, 2007 at 8:43 pm"He must be a pretty bad guy for the people who run this site to spend so much time parcing his every word."
Well, yeah, he is. Thanks for noticing.
December 14th, 2007 at 11:44 pmDo O’Reilly’s personal book sales take precedent over fighting the “War On Christmas?
December 17th, 2007 at 11:47 amOf course they do!! O'Lielly's thirst for the $$$$ is so great that he could become a televangeli$t in the mold of Roberts, Robberson, Foulwell, Joyce Meyer, Cashflow Dollar, Benny Hinn, the Crouches, and all the other God-botherers whose mantra is "Let us prey"