Comments on: Reid to bring Intel committee FISA bill to floor Monday. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:33:18 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4194738 MapleStreet Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:39:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4194738 Each and every revelation have revealed more egregious intrusions into our lives and the potential for data to be gathered to destroy law-abiding folk who just happen to be either business or political rivals of the folks in charge. Lets not forget that one of the data mining companies was under Giuliani ? Does anyone believe that he would hesitate to use any law-enforement gathered information for a political or business advantage? And they still haven't come clean. ABSOLUTELY NO PROMISES OF AMNESTY BEFORE THEY HAVE COME CLEAN ON THE EXTENT OF THEIR ACTIVITIES ! Each and every revelation have revealed more egregious intrusions into our lives and the potential for data to be gathered to destroy law-abiding folk who just happen to be either business or political rivals of the folks in charge.

Lets not forget that one of the data mining companies was under Giuliani ? Does anyone believe that he would hesitate to use any law-enforement gathered information for a political or business advantage?

And they still haven’t come clean.

ABSOLUTELY NO PROMISES OF AMNESTY BEFORE THEY HAVE COME CLEAN ON THE EXTENT OF THEIR ACTIVITIES !

]]> By: Uosdwis http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4194208 Uosdwis Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:54:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4194208 The text of the amendment says they will be immune for spying <em>after</em> 9/11, but we know they were doing it prior, from the Qwest case. So it may not be as helpful as they think. Plus they have to say they didn't think it was illegal because the Bush admin said it was OK. In other words, "if the President does it, that means it is not illegal," thank you very much, Nixon. And that cannot work, I don't care how many Scalitos and Thomases you have. I just hope Chris Dodd rolls up his sleeves and declares "now we'll show you '60-vote cloture' wimps how a <strong>real</strong> filibuster works!" The text of the amendment says they will be immune for spying after 9/11, but we know they were doing it prior, from the Qwest case. So it may not be as helpful as they think. Plus they have to say they didn’t think it was illegal because the Bush admin said it was OK. In other words, “if the President does it, that means it is not illegal,” thank you very much, Nixon. And that cannot work, I don’t care how many Scalitos and Thomases you have.

I just hope Chris Dodd rolls up his sleeves and declares “now we’ll show you ‘60-vote cloture’ wimps how a real filibuster works!”

]]> By: gharlane http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4194203 gharlane Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:48:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4194203 <em>Did anyone read the letter that’s posted after you expand the post? Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 7:51 pm</em> Yes. Your point? Did anyone read the letter that’s posted after you expand the post?

Comment by justasking — December 15, 2007 @ 7:51 pm

Yes.

Your point?

]]> By: gharlane http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4194200 gharlane Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:45:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4194200 Tell me again why I should be supporting Democrats? Tell me again why I should be supporting Democrats?

]]> By: The Shadow http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4193824 The Shadow Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:14:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4193824 Which party is Harry Reid in anyway. Apparently he is afraid of the Republicans and needs to be replaced a majority leader. This guy has sold us OUT. We need to start a writting and calling campaign to drive him out as Majority Leader of the Democrats as well as Nancy Pelosi. They both need to be replaced with a Senator who isn't afraid and a Representative who has some guts. If someone will start this I will help by urging my friend and family to call. Lets start on Monday 17 December. Please comment on whether you are game for this or not. I incourage Republicans to help us get rid of these cowards too. Which party is Harry Reid in anyway. Apparently he is afraid of the Republicans and needs to be replaced a majority leader. This guy has sold us OUT. We need to start a writting and calling campaign to drive him out as Majority Leader of the Democrats as well as Nancy Pelosi. They both need to be replaced with a Senator who isn’t afraid and a Representative who has some guts. If someone will start this I will help by urging my friend and family to call. Lets start on Monday 17 December. Please comment on whether you are game for this or not. I incourage Republicans to help us get rid of these cowards too.

]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4193810 sacopenapa Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:06:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4193810 There’s only one reason why the Bush administration and Congress see it necessary to grant retroactive immunity to the telecoms. They wouldn’t need retroactive immunity if they hadn’t already broken the law. Bush plays the fool, and Reid plays the spineless wimp. And together they are playing the American public. Comment by Kane — December 15, 2007 Well said!!!!!!!!! There’s only one reason why the Bush administration and Congress see it necessary to grant retroactive immunity to the telecoms. They wouldn’t need retroactive immunity if they hadn’t already broken the law.

Bush plays the fool, and Reid plays the spineless wimp. And together they are playing the American public.

Comment by Kane — December 15, 2007
Well said!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4193809 sacopenapa Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:05:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4193809 If the telecom industry gets imunity for commiting a crime... REVOLUTUION!!!!!! If the telecom industry gets imunity for commiting a crime… REVOLUTUION!!!!!!

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4193750 Doc Rock Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:38:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4193750 Reid has betrayed every Democratic voter repeatedly. My donations now go to the ACLU and not Democratic candidates. Reid has betrayed every Democratic voter repeatedly. My donations now go to the ACLU and not Democratic candidates.

]]> By: Bullsmith http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4193702 Bullsmith Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:12:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4193702 If the supposedly Democratic-controlled Senate passes retroactive Amnesty for companies that broke they absolutely forfeit any shreds of respect I had remaining. I hope Harry Reid is never elected to office again. At least with the Republicans in charge you knew who blame. Reid is, frankly, little more than a traitor to those who voted for him. If the supposedly Democratic-controlled Senate passes retroactive Amnesty for companies that broke they absolutely forfeit any shreds of respect I had remaining. I hope Harry Reid is never elected to office again.

At least with the Republicans in charge you knew who blame. Reid is, frankly, little more than a traitor to those who voted for him.

]]> By: McE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4193701 McE Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:37:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4193701 Contact Harry Reid and let him know how you feel about immunity for companies that were "just following orders". Be as polite as possible. Phone: 202-224-3542 Fax: 202-224-7327 Toll Free for Nevadans: 1-866-SEN-REID (736-7343) Contact Harry Reid and let him know how you feel about immunity for companies that were “just following orders”. Be as polite as possible.

Phone: 202-224-3542
Fax: 202-224-7327
Toll Free for Nevadans:
1-866-SEN-REID (736-7343)

]]> By: loretta http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4193626 loretta Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:32:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4193626 NOOOOO! NOOOOO!

]]> By: rockyroad http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4193409 rockyroad Sat, 15 Dec 2007 08:23:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4193409 Hillary, Obama, and Biden go back to DC and stop this train wreck . . . show your stripes! Why should any voter believe that you represent a change, a new transparency, the return of the rule of law if you flake on this critical issue. It just may be the domino that causes the entire web of dominos to fall . . . if any of you fails to show and object, that one of you is a hypocrite, tuck your sorry tail and be gone. Must Americans scream our complaints into our telephones in order to be heard? ? Hillary, Obama, and Biden go back to DC and stop this train wreck . . . show your stripes!

Why should any voter believe that you represent a change, a new transparency, the return of the rule of law if you flake on this critical issue. It just may be the domino that causes the entire web of dominos to fall . . . if any of you fails to show and object, that one of you is a hypocrite, tuck your sorry tail and be gone.

Must Americans scream our complaints into our telephones in order to be heard?
?

]]> By: Kane http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4193237 Kane Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:15:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4193237 There's only one reason why the Bush administration and Congress see it necessary to grant retroactive immunity to the telecoms. They wouldn't need retroactive immunity if they hadn't already broken the law. Bush plays the fool, and Reid plays the spineless wimp. And together they are playing the American public. There’s only one reason why the Bush administration and Congress see it necessary to grant retroactive immunity to the telecoms. They wouldn’t need retroactive immunity if they hadn’t already broken the law.

Bush plays the fool, and Reid plays the spineless wimp. And together they are playing the American public.

]]> By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4193100 freeman Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:10:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4193100 The only 2 thing the democrats have done right in the last year have been the passage of a new fisa bill without retroactive immunity and a defence spending bill which tied a disavowal of torture and an immediate draw down of American troops to funding . Tonight harry reed and the democratic senate have undone these very small first steps and he and they will pay for it dearly among the progressive community . If the democrats want to stay viable they must do what the American people elected them for and end this unjust illegal and un American war and hold those who have violated our constitution and basic rights responsible . The only 2 thing the democrats have done right in the last year have been the passage of a new fisa bill without retroactive immunity and a defence spending bill which tied a disavowal of torture and an immediate draw down of American troops to funding .
Tonight harry reed and the democratic senate have undone these very small first steps and he and they will pay for it dearly among the progressive community . If the democrats want to stay viable they must do what the American people elected them for and end this unjust illegal and un American war and hold those who have violated our constitution and basic rights responsible .

]]> By: Saint Augustine http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4193092 Saint Augustine Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:06:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4193092 Well in 2009 we'll have to pass legislation recinding anything that is passed now that gives immunity. Well in 2009 we’ll have to pass legislation recinding anything that is passed now that gives immunity.

]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4193089 sacopenapa Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:03:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4193089 The congress must understand that further funding the Iraq occupation and granting telecomunication corporations imunity for ilegally spying on americans are issues that people around the globe are following! These actions by the american government are eroding its image even further! Outside the US, the only people that might feel friendly towards you are people inside the Israeli government, and some poor bastard in Kazackstan... The congress must understand that further funding the Iraq occupation and granting telecomunication corporations imunity for ilegally spying on americans are issues that people around the globe are following! These actions by the american government are eroding its image even further! Outside the US, the only people that might feel friendly towards you are people inside the Israeli government, and some poor bastard in Kazackstan…

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4193088 WaltTheMan Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:02:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4193088 They have all merged into the Demopubglican Party. We need a second party in this nation. They have all merged into the Demopubglican Party. We need a second party in this nation.

]]> By: Sabyen91 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4193080 Sabyen91 Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:54:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4193080 Reid is a traitor. Too bad he is from Utah. Not much chance of getting booted in the primary. Pelosi, on the other hand is from San Francisco... Reid is a traitor. Too bad he is from Utah. Not much chance of getting booted in the primary. Pelosi, on the other hand is from San Francisco…

]]> By: Max-1 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4193072 Max-1 Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:50:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4193072 . Since when has WARRANTLESS <b>EVER</b> been legal? I would impress upon the Senate; Prove when warrantless has been legal, then we can discuss about why IMMUNITY <b>FROM</b> the Fourth Amendment might be, or not, legal. . .

Since when has WARRANTLESS EVER been legal?

I would impress upon the Senate; Prove when warrantless has been legal, then we can discuss about why IMMUNITY FROM the Fourth Amendment might be, or not, legal.

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]]> By: OneCrankyDem http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-4193066 OneCrankyDem Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:44:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/14/reid-to-bring-intel-committee-fisa-bill-to-floor-monday/#comment-4193066 I'm back Dodd and his filibuster fo the Intel. Comm. Bill. Harry is trying to pull a fast one on us since he can't put anything over on the Republicans, he believes we are as dumb as he is. Screw that. Hopefully all the Candidates that have promised to back him up know enough to keep their word. This as to be a serious battle for us to win. Write Dodd and send him some support, and write to Clinton, Obama, and Biden to remind them of their promises. Screw you Harry, this is such a chickenshit move, I'm sorry I ever voted for you and never will again. I’m back Dodd and his filibuster fo the Intel. Comm. Bill. Harry is trying to pull a fast one on us since he can’t put anything over on the Republicans, he believes we are as dumb as he is. Screw that. Hopefully all the Candidates that have promised to back him up know enough to keep their word. This as to be a serious battle for us to win. Write Dodd and send him some support, and write to Clinton, Obama, and Biden to remind them of their promises.

Screw you Harry, this is such a chickenshit move, I’m sorry I ever voted for you and never will again.

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