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Bush knew — Iran NIE edition.

By Faiz Shakir on Dec 17th, 2007 at 7:28 pm

Bush knew — Iran NIE edition.

President Bush has said he first learned that there was new intelligence on Iran’s nuclear program “in August” when DNI Mike McConnell told him “we have some new information.” The White House later revealed that Bush was told at that time that Iran’s nuclear weapons program “may be suspended.” Gareth Porter of IPS News writes that “it now appears” that “Bush likely knew about that intelligence as early as February or March 2007,” months before the White House has conceded.



43 Responses to “Bush knew — Iran NIE edition.”

  1. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Maybe so, but at least he didn’t lie about a BLOWJ*B!


  2. stefan says:

    “at least”? Lying about a blow job is worse than lying about efforts to start a war? How so, exactly?


  3. Nevar says:

    It all depends on the definition of the word “when”


  4. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Sorry, stefan — forgot the /sarc notation. I was making sport of the predictably sanctimonious response of the typical wingnut.


  5. Ditch Mitch KY says:

    It is impeachment time.

    Thanks to Dodd for stopping the FISA bill in its tracks today. This is proof that gutsy action has an impact. Now we need a forceful response to the “news” that Bush Boy knew about the NIE Report — not is August 2007 (which he denied) — but in February or March 2007.

    What are we waitin’ for? IMPEACH CHENEY & BUSH.


  6. Badmoodman says:

    In my country, we call this an absolute, complete, overwhelming, comprehensive, thorough, sweeping, universal, total, global and panoramic lack of responsibility.


  7. stefan says:

    Ah no prob Ralph – I realized later my irony filter was disabled! The best overt clue is the phrase that begins “But Clinton…”


  8. GSD says:

    You mean Bush is a lying sack of shit?

    You don’t say.

    -GSD


  9. mary says:

    I have no doubt that Bush is lying through his teeth as usual, but this assertion is based on the assumption that the critical info was part of a PDB. Was it included in a PDB? Did Bush’s eyes glaze over when this was being discussed? Was he thinking about Barney that morning? Did it go in one ear and out the other? Was the critical information downplayed during its presentation? Was the thrust of that day’s PDB about how to repress this inconvenient information?

    Bush being told critical information doesn’t necessarily mean that he actually understood and retained the information.


  10. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Bush being told critical information doesn’t necessarily mean that he actually understood and retained the information.

    Comment by mary — December 17, 2007 @ 7:45 pm

    One of the best observations I’ve seen today.


  11. mary says:

    Why thank you llamita!

    (I saw someone call you that recently and I thought it was great! Especially since it was done in an affectionate sort of way.)


  12. sacopenapa says:

    TIME TO IMPEACH, INDICT AND IMPRISON GEORGE WC. BUSH, CHENNEY AND THE REST OF THEIR JUNTA!


  13. ForTruth says:

    The wingnutsâ„¢ really do get all emotional and serious about Bubba’s behaviors in the oval office. They really feel this was worse than what Bush is doing. I know, it sounds amazing. That’s why “Clinton did it!”â„¢ is so widely used among the wingnutsâ„¢.


  14. sacopenapa says:

    Bush being told critical information doesn’t necessarily mean that he actually understood and retained the information.

    Comment by mary

    Hahahahahahaaaaa! That is soooo funny!


  15. Marie says:

    Bush lied —- again!
    I think it is pathological with him.


  16. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Comment by mary — December 17, 2007 @ 7:51 pm

    Ooo, I’m getting nicknames, kind words… I like it here.

    I can understand why the trolls keep coming back. They don’t get many kind words, but they do get nicknames.


  17. willyloman says:

    Never before has a President and Vice President deserved to be impeached more than these.
    Yet our Speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, is working behind the scenes with House Democrats, not to build a consensus for impeachment, but to do just the opposite. To keep others from succeeding in their effort to hold this president accountable by means of impeachment.
    With the FISA bill looming in the Senate, we have to show the leaders of the House and Senate that this is still our country. Please read the petition to replace Pelosi with a Democratic Representative who will bring impeachment proceedings to the floor.

    http://www.petitiononline.com/everyman/petition.html


  18. mary says:

    Comment by ralph the wonder llama — December 17, 2007 @ 8:02 pm

    You mean like this?

    chilly_pliable_wrong

    That one was thanks to tombaker.


  19. sacopenapa says:

    Sorry if I offended you… I called you llamita, but it realy was on a nice and friendly way. I meant well. I think I was agreing in what you have said. Really sorry if I offended and i didn’ mean to sound like a troll.


  20. Jeannie See says:

    I can’r believe they decided to shelve the FISA vote until after the first of the year. I guess vacation is more important.


  21. mary says:

    Comment by willyloman — December 17, 2007 @ 8:10 pm

    At the rate Nancy Pelosi is going she’ll be as reviled as Bush! Maybe already is!


  22. mary says:

    Comment by sacopenapa — December 17, 2007 @ 8:11 pm

    Oh I don’t think ralph took it the wrong way! See my post #12. I thought it was cute personally. I think ralph was fine with it if I may be so presumptuous.


  23. solai says:

    IMO, what he found out in August was that he wasn’t going to be able to keep the info under wraps.


  24. mary says:

    Does sacopenapa mean anything? Or is that your nickname for yourself? : )


  25. Saint Augustine says:

    BUSH KNEW

    AND CHENEY TOO

    Turk 182


  26. Doc Rock says:

    Did anyone with a lick of sense believe otherwise? He would have been told almost immediately when it was analyzed and vetted!


  27. mary says:

    What I want to know is did those Israeli “intelligence” officials that are here to campaign against the latest NIE sway anyone that mattered yet?

    “An Israeli delegation is making an unscheduled visit to the United States amid disagreements over the recent American intelligence report on Iran.”

    http://voanews.com/english/2007-12-16-voa28.cfm


  28. mary says:

    I’m sure that Israeli intelligence is much better than the U.S.’s…..


  29. Jack Jett says:

    Another lie that he he will get away with because jeebus protects him.

    jack
    http://www.yabbadabbahubbado.com


  30. sacopenapa says:

    Sacopenapa, the last pa sounds like “panamerica”. It means in Tupi Guarani, the aborigenes from Brazil, dark lagoon. It was the original name of the lagoon in Rio de Janeiro, the one that is around Ipanema (another Tupi Guarani name). Sacopenapa=Dark lagoon.
    PS. Thank Mary for you comments and reasurances! I really laughed with the one about Bush retaining information! Very funny!!!


  31. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Comment by sacopenapa — December 17, 2007 @ 8:11 pm

    No apologies necessary, saco. No offense taken. As Mary suggests, I appreciated the spirit and affection with which you made the remark.


  32. mary says:

    Dark lagoon eh? How mysterious and exotic! I love it!


  33. mary says:

    There’s a huge population of Brazilians in my town. Most of them are illegal immigrants, which makes for some local friction, but you should see the spontaneous parades they tie traffic up with when something good happens for Brazil. I think this town would be a lot more boring without them.


  34. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Dark lagoon eh? How mysterious and exotic! I love it!

    Comment by mary — December 17, 2007 @ 8:46 pm

    Oh, so now you’re sweet on saco? Just because he’s mysterious and exotic?

    Aren’t llamas exotic?

    I can’t catch a break.


  35. Abby says:

    The really sad part is that the fact that this US President lied to the American people, and that he did that repeatedly, just to provoke another unnecessary war where he could kill more innocents, does not rise to the level of news anymore. What a shitty state of affairs.

    USA? USA? USA?

    ?


  36. ohplease says:

  37. ForTruth says:

  38. Lefty Patriot says:

    Actually, CHL, you moron, the source for this is Mike McConnell, the new Director of National Security. Not that he couldn’t be an abject liar, as all Republicans are, but this looks like perfectly good information. No wonder you’re in tears about it.


  39. Sabyen91 says:

    “And of course…who do all of us good left nut libs believe?????

    One guess: the always credible Gareth Porter (who????????).”

    No, even better!!!! We believe Mike effing McConnell!!!!


  40. Sabyen91 says:

    “Your source for this is the IPS? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.”

    What? Are you being ironic? This coming from a Fox zombie? Are you kidding?


  41. patooty says:

    If Sy Hersh knew about it in the Fall of 06 and wrote his article in November of 07, you KNOW that BUSH KNEW all about it at that time or before that time. Who are they trying to kid?

    Besides, if Bush didn’t know and a civilian writer knew about it, then he doesn’t deserve to be commander in chief due to his ignorance.


  42. Mimo says:

    Bush knew, they blew.

    Bush lied, they died.


  43. RickS says:

    Your source for this is the IPS? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.

    Comment by cold_hard_left

    You actually believe what Bush says?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!



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