President Bush has said he first learned that there was new intelligence on Iran’s nuclear program “in August” when DNI Mike McConnell told him “we have some new information.” The White House later revealed that Bush was told at that time that Iran’s nuclear weapons program “may be suspended.” Gareth Porter of IPS News writes that “it now appears” that “Bush likely knew about that intelligence as early as February or March 2007,” months before the White House has conceded.
Maybe so, but at least he didn’t lie about a BLOWJ*B!
December 17th, 2007 at 7:30 pm“at least”? Lying about a blow job is worse than lying about efforts to start a war? How so, exactly?
December 17th, 2007 at 7:33 pmIt all depends on the definition of the word “when”
December 17th, 2007 at 7:33 pmSorry, stefan — forgot the /sarc notation. I was making sport of the predictably sanctimonious response of the typical wingnut.
December 17th, 2007 at 7:35 pmIt is impeachment time.
Thanks to Dodd for stopping the FISA bill in its tracks today. This is proof that gutsy action has an impact. Now we need a forceful response to the “news” that Bush Boy knew about the NIE Report — not is August 2007 (which he denied) — but in February or March 2007.
What are we waitin’ for? IMPEACH CHENEY & BUSH.
December 17th, 2007 at 7:35 pmIn my country, we call this an absolute, complete, overwhelming, comprehensive, thorough, sweeping, universal, total, global and panoramic lack of responsibility.
December 17th, 2007 at 7:36 pmAh no prob Ralph – I realized later my irony filter was disabled! The best overt clue is the phrase that begins “But Clinton…”
December 17th, 2007 at 7:38 pmYou mean Bush is a lying sack of shit?
You don’t say.
-GSD
December 17th, 2007 at 7:44 pmI have no doubt that Bush is lying through his teeth as usual, but this assertion is based on the assumption that the critical info was part of a PDB. Was it included in a PDB? Did Bush’s eyes glaze over when this was being discussed? Was he thinking about Barney that morning? Did it go in one ear and out the other? Was the critical information downplayed during its presentation? Was the thrust of that day’s PDB about how to repress this inconvenient information?
Bush being told critical information doesn’t necessarily mean that he actually understood and retained the information.
December 17th, 2007 at 7:45 pmBush being told critical information doesn’t necessarily mean that he actually understood and retained the information.
Comment by mary — December 17, 2007 @ 7:45 pm
One of the best observations I’ve seen today.
December 17th, 2007 at 7:47 pmWhy thank you llamita!
(I saw someone call you that recently and I thought it was great! Especially since it was done in an affectionate sort of way.)
December 17th, 2007 at 7:51 pmTIME TO IMPEACH, INDICT AND IMPRISON GEORGE WC. BUSH, CHENNEY AND THE REST OF THEIR JUNTA!
December 17th, 2007 at 7:53 pmThe wingnutsâ„¢ really do get all emotional and serious about Bubba’s behaviors in the oval office. They really feel this was worse than what Bush is doing. I know, it sounds amazing. That’s why “Clinton did it!”â„¢ is so widely used among the wingnutsâ„¢.
December 17th, 2007 at 7:54 pmBush being told critical information doesn’t necessarily mean that he actually understood and retained the information.
Comment by mary
December 17th, 2007 at 7:57 pmHahahahahahaaaaa! That is soooo funny!
Bush lied —- again!
December 17th, 2007 at 7:59 pmI think it is pathological with him.
Comment by mary — December 17, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
Ooo, I’m getting nicknames, kind words… I like it here.
I can understand why the trolls keep coming back. They don’t get many kind words, but they do get nicknames.
December 17th, 2007 at 8:02 pmNever before has a President and Vice President deserved to be impeached more than these.
Yet our Speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, is working behind the scenes with House Democrats, not to build a consensus for impeachment, but to do just the opposite. To keep others from succeeding in their effort to hold this president accountable by means of impeachment.
With the FISA bill looming in the Senate, we have to show the leaders of the House and Senate that this is still our country. Please read the petition to replace Pelosi with a Democratic Representative who will bring impeachment proceedings to the floor.
http://www.petitiononline.com/everyman/petition.html
December 17th, 2007 at 8:10 pmComment by ralph the wonder llama — December 17, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
You mean like this?
chilly_pliable_wrong
That one was thanks to tombaker.
December 17th, 2007 at 8:10 pmSorry if I offended you… I called you llamita, but it realy was on a nice and friendly way. I meant well. I think I was agreing in what you have said. Really sorry if I offended and i didn’ mean to sound like a troll.
December 17th, 2007 at 8:11 pmI can’r believe they decided to shelve the FISA vote until after the first of the year. I guess vacation is more important.
December 17th, 2007 at 8:14 pmComment by willyloman — December 17, 2007 @ 8:10 pm
At the rate Nancy Pelosi is going she’ll be as reviled as Bush! Maybe already is!
December 17th, 2007 at 8:15 pmComment by sacopenapa — December 17, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
Oh I don’t think ralph took it the wrong way! See my post #12. I thought it was cute personally. I think ralph was fine with it if I may be so presumptuous.
December 17th, 2007 at 8:18 pmIMO, what he found out in August was that he wasn’t going to be able to keep the info under wraps.
December 17th, 2007 at 8:19 pmDoes sacopenapa mean anything? Or is that your nickname for yourself? : )
December 17th, 2007 at 8:20 pmBUSH KNEW
AND CHENEY TOO
Turk 182
December 17th, 2007 at 8:24 pmDid anyone with a lick of sense believe otherwise? He would have been told almost immediately when it was analyzed and vetted!
December 17th, 2007 at 8:26 pmWhat I want to know is did those Israeli “intelligence” officials that are here to campaign against the latest NIE sway anyone that mattered yet?
“An Israeli delegation is making an unscheduled visit to the United States amid disagreements over the recent American intelligence report on Iran.”
http://voanews.com/english/2007-12-16-voa28.cfm
December 17th, 2007 at 8:28 pmI’m sure that Israeli intelligence is much better than the U.S.’s…..
December 17th, 2007 at 8:30 pmAnother lie that he he will get away with because jeebus protects him.
jack
December 17th, 2007 at 8:31 pmhttp://www.yabbadabbahubbado.com
Sacopenapa, the last pa sounds like “panamerica”. It means in Tupi Guarani, the aborigenes from Brazil, dark lagoon. It was the original name of the lagoon in Rio de Janeiro, the one that is around Ipanema (another Tupi Guarani name). Sacopenapa=Dark lagoon.
December 17th, 2007 at 8:33 pmPS. Thank Mary for you comments and reasurances! I really laughed with the one about Bush retaining information! Very funny!!!
Comment by sacopenapa — December 17, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
No apologies necessary, saco. No offense taken. As Mary suggests, I appreciated the spirit and affection with which you made the remark.
December 17th, 2007 at 8:34 pmDark lagoon eh? How mysterious and exotic! I love it!
December 17th, 2007 at 8:46 pmThere’s a huge population of Brazilians in my town. Most of them are illegal immigrants, which makes for some local friction, but you should see the spontaneous parades they tie traffic up with when something good happens for Brazil. I think this town would be a lot more boring without them.
December 17th, 2007 at 8:50 pmDark lagoon eh? How mysterious and exotic! I love it!
Comment by mary — December 17, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
Oh, so now you’re sweet on saco? Just because he’s mysterious and exotic?
Aren’t llamas exotic?
I can’t catch a break.
December 17th, 2007 at 8:50 pmThe really sad part is that the fact that this US President lied to the American people, and that he did that repeatedly, just to provoke another unnecessary war where he could kill more innocents, does not rise to the level of news anymore. What a shitty state of affairs.
USA? USA? USA?
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December 17th, 2007 at 9:10 pmChimpeach!
December 17th, 2007 at 9:21 pmChimpeach! Yes!
December 17th, 2007 at 9:28 pmActually, CHL, you moron, the source for this is Mike McConnell, the new Director of National Security. Not that he couldn’t be an abject liar, as all Republicans are, but this looks like perfectly good information. No wonder you’re in tears about it.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:37 pm“And of course…who do all of us good left nut libs believe?????
One guess: the always credible Gareth Porter (who????????).”
No, even better!!!! We believe Mike effing McConnell!!!!
December 18th, 2007 at 2:12 am“Your source for this is the IPS? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.”
What? Are you being ironic? This coming from a Fox zombie? Are you kidding?
December 18th, 2007 at 2:16 amIf Sy Hersh knew about it in the Fall of 06 and wrote his article in November of 07, you KNOW that BUSH KNEW all about it at that time or before that time. Who are they trying to kid?
Besides, if Bush didn’t know and a civilian writer knew about it, then he doesn’t deserve to be commander in chief due to his ignorance.
December 18th, 2007 at 7:58 amBush knew, they blew.
Bush lied, they died.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:16 amYour source for this is the IPS? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.
Comment by cold_hard_left
You actually believe what Bush says?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 18th, 2007 at 10:11 am