Comments on: Dodd filibuster threat causes Reid to withdraw FISA bill. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:36:02 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: thecowboydictator http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4198100 thecowboydictator Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:23:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4198100 yesterday I was embarrassed to live in the state of ct with lieberman. Today I am very proud of Sen Dodd...God Bless You Sir! yesterday I was embarrassed to live in the state of ct with lieberman. Today I am very proud of Sen Dodd…God Bless You Sir!

]]> By: hanshiro http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196834 hanshiro Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:02:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196834 THANK YOU CHRIS DODD! I'll add Dodd's name to the other three dems who have balls: Kucinich, Waxman and Feingold. Beyond that, jellyfish appeasers like Reid, Pelosi, Jimmy-George WebbAllen and Feinstein need to be removed. They have lied to and betrayed their constituents. THANK YOU CHRIS DODD! I’ll add Dodd’s name to the other three dems who have balls: Kucinich, Waxman and Feingold.

Beyond that, jellyfish appeasers like Reid, Pelosi, Jimmy-George WebbAllen and Feinstein need to be removed. They have lied to and betrayed their constituents.

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196798 Leftside Annie Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:39:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196798 GOD BLESS CHRIS DODD!!! GOD BLESS CHRIS DODD!!!

]]> By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196765 freeman Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:18:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196765 Democracy can no longer afford , it would seem ,most of the lawyers in either party and recent polls and approval rating tell me I am not alone in this . Harry Reid democrats are setting the stage for a serious third party challenge . If the democrats want to remain viable in the next election cycle they had better act alot more like Chris Dodd . Democracy can no longer afford , it would seem ,most of the lawyers in either party and recent polls and approval rating tell me I am not alone in this . Harry Reid democrats are setting the stage for a serious third party challenge . If the democrats want to remain viable in the next election cycle they had better act alot more like Chris Dodd .

]]> By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196733 freeman Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:03:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196733 Harry Reid leader of the compliant majority , step down and make way for someone who is willing to make hard choices in the face of this un precedented assault on our constitutional rights and privacy by an administration which ignores the very laws which are passed by the elected representatives of the American people ,through the use of signing statements . Spying without oversight on the American people ,making wars for conquest of resources with a resume of torture , secret rendition, secret prisons , and secret government , to make stalin or hitler proud . Constructing democracy abroad with the bodies of a million souls and the body parts of many times that while dismantling our own feverishly at home . Harry Reid step down the democrats can no longer afford you . Harry Reid leader of the compliant majority , step down and make way for someone who is willing to make hard choices in the face of this un precedented assault on our constitutional rights and privacy by an administration which ignores the very laws which are passed by the elected representatives of the American people ,through the use of signing statements .
Spying without oversight on the American people ,making wars for conquest of resources with a resume of torture , secret rendition, secret prisons , and secret government , to make stalin or hitler proud .
Constructing democracy abroad with the bodies of a million souls and the body parts of many times that while dismantling our own feverishly at home . Harry Reid step down the democrats can no longer afford you .

]]> By: freeman http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196693 freeman Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:41:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196693 Thank you Senator Dodd you make me hopeful in the face of so much mediocrity . Keep the teeth in the new FISA bill , let harry reid keep his in a glass by his bed stand , he's gotten so very old . Thank you Senator Dodd you make me hopeful in the face of so much mediocrity . Keep the teeth in the new FISA bill , let harry reid keep his in a glass by his bed stand , he’s gotten so very old .

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196669 RUCerious Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:28:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196669 Good job, Senator Dodd. Between now and the time this is re-addressed in January, each and every Senator should receive approximately 44,000 copies of the Fourth Amendment in their email inbox. Good job, Senator Dodd. Between now and the time this is re-addressed in January, each and every Senator should receive approximately 44,000 copies of the Fourth Amendment in their email inbox.

]]> By: The Shadow http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196628 The Shadow Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:35:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196628 Hurray for Sen. Dodd. Finally a democrat with some BALLS. My friend got a real PAIR on you, Chris. Now I'm for DODD for President. He's the only DEM with balls enough to stand up the the republican minority. I only wish he was majority leader. Hurray for Sen. Dodd. Finally a democrat with some BALLS. My friend got a real PAIR on you, Chris. Now I’m for DODD for President. He’s the only DEM with balls enough to stand up the the republican minority. I only wish he was majority leader.

]]> By: Technodaoist http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196627 Technodaoist Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:28:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196627 <em>Sen. John Rockefeller (D-WV): “I’m disappointed legislation to modernize and improve FISA will now have to wait until January. As I’ve said many times, it is one of the most important bills before Congress, and one that should not be rushed in the final hours before Protect America Act expires.”</em> <strong> So you rush it now instead?</strong><strong> I don't know much about Rockefeller, but with that name I'd be tempted to say he is one of the faux-republican 'establishement' democrats... His actions and words only reinforce that impression.</strong> Sen. John Rockefeller (D-WV): “I’m disappointed legislation to modernize and improve FISA will now have to wait until January. As I’ve said many times, it is one of the most important bills before Congress, and one that should not be rushed in the final hours before Protect America Act expires.”

So you rush it now instead?

I don’t know much about Rockefeller, but with that name I’d be tempted to say he is one of the faux-republican ‘establishement’ democrats… His actions and words only reinforce that impression.

]]> By: patooty http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196622 patooty Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:09:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196622 Once again, we will find that this deceitful president only used these unconstitutional tools against the people - to gather evidence on political foes to silence them, to gather evidence on scientists and silence them, to gather evidence on people who disagree with him and blackmail them. Even if it's only done tacitly, it works. The final straw for the people will be when they realize they've been spied upon which is patently illegal and it didn't even protect them from attack. Once again, we will find that this deceitful president only used these unconstitutional tools against the people – to gather evidence on political foes to silence them, to gather evidence on scientists and silence them, to gather evidence on people who disagree with him and blackmail them. Even if it’s only done tacitly, it works.

The final straw for the people will be when they realize they’ve been spied upon which is patently illegal and it didn’t even protect them from attack.

]]> By: patooty http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196621 patooty Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:06:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196621 Bilbo: As the whistleblower indicated, Bush DID begin using the telecoms for illicit spying on americans immediately which means that it was in advance of 911. This information (the dates involved) is precisely why the bill was pushed back to allow for information to be gathered - critical information - like which telecoms were involved, the date they began the spying, etc. With this information gleaned from the telecons combined with the intel of foreign agencies warning of an attack, Bush will be rendered as a totally worthless president. It will be shown that Bush knew about 911 and did nothing to stop it. Why do you think Bush wants this to go away and be shoved under the rug? For precisely that reason. Once the people get the dates of what he knew and when he knew it (like the NIE report which he's now lying about), they will be outraged. Bilbo: As the whistleblower indicated, Bush DID begin using the telecoms for illicit spying on americans immediately which means that it was in advance of 911. This information (the dates involved) is precisely why the bill was pushed back to allow for information to be gathered – critical information – like which telecoms were involved, the date they began the spying, etc.

With this information gleaned from the telecons combined with the intel of foreign agencies warning of an attack, Bush will be rendered as a totally worthless president. It will be shown that Bush knew about 911 and did nothing to stop it.

Why do you think Bush wants this to go away and be shoved under the rug? For precisely that reason. Once the people get the dates of what he knew and when he knew it (like the NIE report which he’s now lying about), they will be outraged.

]]> By: patooty http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196620 patooty Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:02:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196620 Valiant effort by Chris Dodd! Kudos to Dodd for being a true patriot. He did a fabulous job describing what is going on and totally destroyed the argument(s) in favor of the defacto immunity. He also destroyed all of the arguments any Rethug presented. Warner, in particular, looked like a flaming moron using tired rhetoric and false assertions to make his point (the only point left to this guy is the point at the top of his head!). Now let's watch Dodd's numbers soar! Valiant effort by Chris Dodd! Kudos to Dodd for being a true patriot. He did a fabulous job describing what is going on and totally destroyed the argument(s) in favor of the defacto immunity. He also destroyed all of the arguments any Rethug presented. Warner, in particular, looked like a flaming moron using tired rhetoric and false assertions to make his point (the only point left to this guy is the point at the top of his head!).

Now let’s watch Dodd’s numbers soar!

]]> By: Bobwurst http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196614 Bobwurst Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:13:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196614 "So Jason, CHL or any other loon on this thread, what if it turns out to be true that Bush asked the Telcoms to spy on us weeks after he took office and well before 911 happened. Would you think that was OK? What possible reason could Bush have to spy on the citizens of the USA before any terrorist action happened? Comment by bilbobaggins" Since none of the right-wing loons answered, how about an answer from a left-wing loon? I'd be willing to bet that bush and his stooges, will say that this was their secret response to islamofacist threat blahblahblah, that they were defending america, that clinton didn't have the balls to do the job right, etc. and chl,(coldhardloser) jason, frank, drywall et al will eat it up, along with the msm. “So Jason, CHL or any other loon on this thread, what if it turns out to be true that Bush asked the Telcoms to spy on us weeks after he took office and well before 911 happened. Would you think that was OK? What possible reason could Bush have to spy on the citizens of the USA before any terrorist action happened?

Comment by bilbobaggins”

Since none of the right-wing loons answered, how about an answer from a left-wing loon? I’d be willing to bet that bush and his stooges, will say that this was their secret response to islamofacist threat blahblahblah, that they were defending america, that clinton didn’t have the balls to do the job right, etc. and chl,(coldhardloser) jason, frank, drywall et al will eat it up, along with the msm.

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196606 Doc Rock Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:35:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196606 Keep your eyes fixed on Reid, his lips are moving. Keep your eyes fixed on Reid, his lips are moving.

]]> By: cromstantinople http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196600 cromstantinople Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:00:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196600 anyone else want to kick Reid in his spineless back? Sure, this is a positive step but come on, look at what he's done. anyone else want to kick Reid in his spineless back? Sure, this is a positive step but come on, look at what he’s done.

]]> By: Max-1 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196592 Max-1 Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:24:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196592 <i>Liberals are clearly not interested in Protecting America. Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 10:32 pm</i> And you teams advance of ANTI-American values, unconstitutional principles is somehow keeping us safer? Then I say, go find that country where TREASON is LAWFUL. Where WARRANTLESS and TORTURE are legal. Go, find it. Be free to destroy other people's Liberty and pursuit of happiness. Just why is doing it in America's name anything BUT unpatriotic? WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA SO, THAT YOU SEEK TO UNDO HER? . Liberals are clearly not interested in Protecting America.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 10:32 pm

And you teams advance of ANTI-American values, unconstitutional principles is somehow keeping us safer?

Then I say, go find that country where TREASON is LAWFUL. Where WARRANTLESS and TORTURE are legal. Go, find it. Be free to destroy other people’s Liberty and pursuit of happiness. Just why is doing it in America’s name anything BUT unpatriotic?

WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA SO,
THAT YOU SEEK TO UNDO HER?

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]]> By: Max-1 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196591 Max-1 Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:19:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196591 . So, if Sen. Reid thinks providing retroactive immunity along with permission to continue to VIOLATE OUR RIGHTS, just what, then, does he support and defend? Possibly, the right for global corporations to VIOLATE OUR RIGHTS? T R E A S O N! . .

So, if Sen. Reid thinks providing retroactive immunity along with permission to continue to VIOLATE OUR RIGHTS, just what, then, does he support and defend?

Possibly, the right for global corporations to VIOLATE OUR RIGHTS?

T R E A S O N!

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]]> By: marlow http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196585 marlow Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:24:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196585 Couldn't agree more, 60. It's hard enough holding off the fascist scum without your own people running off the field. Couldn’t agree more, 60. It’s hard enough holding off the fascist scum without your own people running off the field.

]]> By: QUALAR http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196572 QUALAR Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:00:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196572 Where was Hillary and Obama when Dodd was standing up for our Constitution? I think maybe Iowans might want to reconsider their choices and caucus for Dodd. It's time the Democratic Party received a strong message about wimpy leadership. Where was Hillary and Obama when Dodd was standing up for our Constitution? I think maybe Iowans might want to reconsider their choices and caucus for Dodd. It’s time the Democratic Party received a strong message about wimpy leadership.

]]> By: Laszlo Panaflex http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/comment-page-2/#comment-4196544 Laszlo Panaflex Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:37:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/17/dodd-filibuster-threat-causes-reid-to-withdraw-fisa-bill/#comment-4196544 So Reid is even a pussy when a Dem shows a spine. Get rid of that useless pile and get a leader who wants to fight back. So Reid is even a pussy when a Dem shows a spine. Get rid of that useless pile and get a leader who wants to fight back.

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