Judge orders WH to reveal Christian leader visits.
By on Dec 17th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
Judge orders WH to reveal Christian leader visits.
Earlier today, a federal judge ordered the Secret Service to “disclose records of visits by nine prominent conservative Christian leaders to the White House and Vice President Dick Cheney’s residence.” U.S. District Court Judge Royce Lamberth wrote that “The most that can be said is the Secret Service acts as if the White House has legal control over these records. Upon closer inspection, however, even this proposition seems suspect.” Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington have been seeking the records since the fall of 2006.
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What a concept. The people have control over what happens in public buildings owned by the people. I suppose anymore of these commie populist leanings, and I might end up in Gitmo!
December 17th, 2007 at 9:33 pmOh No!! It’s that war on god tony snow was talking about. Hide yer Bibles, the UN is comin’ fer’em!!
December 17th, 2007 at 9:35 pmDimes will get me dollars Ted Haggard is on that list…..
December 17th, 2007 at 9:36 pmuh.. too late for that cold hard left.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:53 pmyou’re really weird, cold hard left…….
December 17th, 2007 at 9:54 pmOf course, this White House will ignore this judge’s order like it ignores the other branch of government, but it shows that at least in theory we have a system of checks and balances.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:55 pm4 – like the born-again feller that lives there now? cry wolf much, chilly?
December 17th, 2007 at 9:58 pmCHL,
You have an understanding problem. Noone says Christian leaders cannot visit the White House. We would just like it to be public who visits the White House. And Reagan, GHW Bush and W have been a heck of lot more friendly to Koran-reading countries like Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Pakistan than Carter or Clinton.
I remember one of the “huge scandals” during Clinton was who slept in the Lincoln bedroom. I don’t remember conservatives yelling “protected presidential documents” then!
December 17th, 2007 at 10:00 pmI would still like to know how many sleepovers Jeffy Gannon/Guckert had at the White House under Bush. Not under Bush, but during Bush. You know what I mean. ;)
December 17th, 2007 at 10:03 pmI think he meant “when the Clinton protected you from those other 9/11’s” chilly.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:03 pmcold_limp_rightie, There is no evidence Clinton “sold us out to China”. It is true that the enormous trade and budget deficits from Reagan, Bush, and Bush have caused us to be partly owned by China and other foreign countries.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:06 pmI agree with Keith – the numerous overnight visits to the WH made by that gay prostitute man who was posing as a member of the press corps is definitely more interesting.
Prostitutes, Chilly, have been around throughout human history, and are people who have sex with other people in exchange for money.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:07 pmtombaker,
December 17th, 2007 at 10:10 pmIn all fairness, we do not know if Jeffy was gay. We just know from his websites that he got paid for having sex with men. There’s a difference.
Man, these rightwingers will support anything Bush and co do. Could there be any power grab by the admin they wouldn’t support?
December 17th, 2007 at 10:16 pmWhile they’re at it can we try and find out who was in those energy task force meetings way back in the day – and what was discussed? I know “cold_hard_left” might trust Cheney and the Energy Industry to work for the common good of all Americans but I doubt many other folks do.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:17 pmBe nice now, we all know Jeff was there to teach abstinence to the faithful.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:19 pmCHL, you obviously have a reading comprehension problem. There is nothing that prevents Bush from meeting these conservative Christian leaders. Fine, let him meet them all he wants, but we want to know who goes in and out, kind of how you conservatives wanted to know who slept over in the Lincoln Bedroom while Clinton was president. Why the double standards?
December 17th, 2007 at 10:21 pmThe Left needs to Hsu those Christians away.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 10:14 pm
Wow, you’re desperate for attention aren’t you. Why don’t you go bomb an abortion clinic or something to make your god proud of you.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/050712/12natsec.htm
December 17th, 2007 at 10:21 pmComment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 10:14 pm
For real, what’s your deal?
December 17th, 2007 at 10:21 pmhis real deal is that he wants to perpetuate the myth that liberals and Democrats want to persecute Christians and martyr them.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:29 pmComment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 10:14 pm
For real, what’s your deal?
Comment by dbadass — December 17, 2007 @ 10:21 pm
It’s panic, mostly. Even a complete dunce like this one can see that the country is headed for a sea change, that the vast majority of Americans are thoroughly sick of the incompetence, venality and sheer uselessness of the current administration. Since the troll has nothing of any real substance that might reverse the trend, the only recourse is to fling poop. Poop doesn’t have to mean anything, it doesn’t have to have any relationship to reality or to discussions at hand. It’s just poop.
It’s meant to smell bad and irritate people. But it’s just poop and the troll is the only one touching it.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:30 pm15 – Be that as it may, Keith, It would be a mistake to think he was their to service any of the ladies in the WH, wouldn’t it?
{see Chilly, we Lefties are able to have reasonable disputes over things – Keith and I aren’t going to resort to innuendo and name-calling, even if we do happen to disagree on certain items}
December 17th, 2007 at 10:33 pm#27 slushy,
Seriously, why would you think these records should be secret.
Answer, if you can leave the ad hominem rants aside for a minute.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:34 pmPerhaps this would be a nice opening for BARTLEBEE to spend the night explaining to us the history of why Progressives hate Christians.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
oh chl, you and your strawmen!
(do you make love to a real woman or a strawwoman? just curious.)
December 17th, 2007 at 10:35 pmIt’s not a myth. Read ThinkProgress long enough and you’ll see that so-called “Progressives†hate Christians and Jews and are only friends to Muslims, Athiests and possibly Druids.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
chl, you’re a druid? shouldn’t you be out celebrating?
December 17th, 2007 at 10:36 pmGum – I’m afraid I actually got some of the poop on me, but only because I was picking it up and throwing it back. It’s only on my hands, and I’ll definitely wash up – are we cool?
(and, I can’t stand it, but I typo’ed in 28, s/b “there”, not “their” – sorry to any grammarians in attendance)
viva che
December 17th, 2007 at 10:37 pmchl,
December 17th, 2007 at 10:39 pmSome Christians are great (Daniel and Philip Berrigan) some are terrible (Falwell, Robertson, Bauer, Haggard, David Koresh, Jim Jones, Jim Baker, Swaggert, etc), and some are mediocre. I guess a bell curve would describe a lot of things like that.
It’s not a myth. Read ThinkProgress long enough and you’ll see that so-called “Progressives†hate Christians and Jews and are only friends to Muslims, Athiests and possibly Druids.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
I’m curious. When you write these obvious lies, who here do you possibly think believes you or is faintly convinced by you? Or is this some strange form of masturbation, maybe? You just get excited that you can type any stupid thing at all and no one can really stop you — unlike whatever pathetic life you’re struggling through where no one ever listens.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:39 pmRead ThinkProgress long enough and you’ll see that so-called “Progressives†hate Christians and Jews and are only friends to Muslims, Athiests and possibly Druids.
Comment by cold_hard_left
Seriously, this one must be Bush. NO one can be this dull and stupid.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:40 pmThe Koran is fine, but no bibles.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 9:49 pm
WTF???? This doesn’t make the least bit of sense…
December 17th, 2007 at 10:40 pmGum – I’m afraid I actually got some of the poop on me, but only because I was picking it up and throwing it back. It’s only on my hands, and I’ll definitely wash up – are we cool?
Comment by tombaker — December 17, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
Rubber gloves. Trust the Playtex.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:40 pmProvide some proof, not reich-wing hysteria and hissy fits.
Comment by Dr. Matt — December 17, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
chl doesn’t have “hissy fits”. it’s just his “time of the month”.
right, chl?
December 17th, 2007 at 10:41 pmComment by tombaker — December 17, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
We don’t disagree. I was just funnin’ with you.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:41 pmChilly is unaware of the intimate intertwining of Christianity with Progressive Politics that dates back to the earliest days of our Country, and even further back, into Europe’s history. Most Righties are, and it is a disservice to the Country and to the faith they so proudly (and loudly) proclaim.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:42 pm(psst, keith – i know…just “playing along”, for satirical purposes.)
December 17th, 2007 at 10:44 pm#44 slushers
You’re right, dammit. The Druids are exerting undue influence on Bush/Cheney and must be stopped. This is not Druidic nation and never was.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:44 pmComment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
This sort of comment is just idiotic.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:45 pmCold_hard_left,
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/7475
What were you saying earlier?
December 17th, 2007 at 10:46 pm“Progressive Politics†date back to the earliest days of Stalinism. Stalin wasn’t very friendly to Christians either.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
proof please.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:47 pmchl?
chl???
December 17th, 2007 at 10:48 pmcgl?
dude?
December 17th, 2007 at 10:49 pmWTF is up w/ CHL?
The comments he’s making are just asinine. There’s nothing to debate, ’cause you can’t debate gibberish. So what’s the point?
Whoever this is, they sure spend alot of time here. Is this just one person, or a fake name for a whole group? The fabled Regent U Cyber-Debate Team? One of KKKarl’s crack Cyber-Troll Squads?
I personally suggest we all flag this nitwit over and over until TP bans ‘em, just like Jake D, Mr P, and on and on and on.
Clearly CHL has no valid point to make. Just here to be disruptive and annoying.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:49 pmClearly CHL has no valid point to make. Just here to be disruptive and annoying.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — December 17, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
shhhh, he’s masturbating right now. he’ll be back in a minute.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:50 pmchl, this will really shock you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_socialism
December 17th, 2007 at 10:51 pmCoulter is a “shock jock†author out selling books. She occasionally makes a few good points, but that was not one of them.
Comment by cold_hard_left
Imagine Ahmadinejad saying that about Jews…you guys would be cheering another million civilians deaths.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:51 pmComment by Keith — December 17, 2007 @ 10:51 pm
Heh. NIce catch.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:52 pmComment by Keith — December 17, 2007 @ 10:51 pm
yeah nice keith. you made chl cry, happy?
December 17th, 2007 at 10:54 pmwoops, maybe i went a little too quickly for you, chilly.
Let’s start with the Abolitionist movement, right here at home, in the 17 and 1800’s. It was a movement to eliminate slavery. Slavery is when humans are bought and sold by/to other humans. I know it will come as a shock to you, but in Early America, slavery was widely accpeted, except by some “crazy moonbat liberals” and their friends, who were Church leaders. Together, the “crazy moonbat liberals”, and their friends, the Church Leaders, fought a long and bloody struggle against the “Righties”, who thought that slavery was awesome, because it helped them make lots of money, and they, unlike Christians, thought that making lots of money was the most awesome thing they could do as humans.
Long story short = Crazy Moonbat Liberals, and their friends, the Church Leaders, brought an end to what turned out to be an abominable and shameful period of history.
Now you finish your cocoa (it’s from South America, too) and be off to bed. There is much more to learn tomorrow, lil’ feller.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:55 pmIt’s a war on god, CHL. You know that. This is a great war for you, CHL.
It’s better than the war on terror, or/and the war on drugs. It’s better
than the both of those wars smudged up and rolled into a little ball that
you can volley to and fro while ignoring the issues that really affect our society. It’s a war without meaning. It’s make believe. It’s fantasy and an opiate, legally injected through teh radios and teevees. It’s your drug of choice.
But, you know that.
You’re a dipsh*t, CHL. Always have been, always will be.
cold_hard_left.
heh. funny pages.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:57 pmTRoS – kind of a lame thread anyway.
sorry for letting it stay off-topic. i’ll try to be better.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:57 pmeven stronger, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism
Did you know every Thanksgiving we celebrate a bunch of Commies?!?
December 17th, 2007 at 10:59 pmNo answer yet…………………..
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 10:55 pm
still jacking off? take your time. think of mann coulter.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:59 pmComment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 11:00 pm
finished?
get a towel. clean yourself up.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:02 pmWhos is this Abraham Leader he doth speak of?
December 17th, 2007 at 11:02 pmNo answer yet…………………..
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 10:55 pm
Maybe because Bush himself has said he consults with these folks often, the Christian representatives have said they meet with Bush and his people weekly and they are affecting our nation’s policies? Seems like a legit reason. I don’t hear many rabbi’s or yogi’s getting the same influence on our government so quit pretenduing your faith is being attacked and be proud that your faith is helping run this country right now. You should learn when to acknowledge success – Christians are running this country, they are why Romney had to profess his dedication to God – but not Mormonism per-say, they are why Hillary pretends to be a church-goer, they are why Huckabee makes cell phone calls to God and still has a shot in hell of being elected by your party.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:03 pmdang. somehow i missed again, but at this point i’m all chuckled out for the night….
you young’uns just run yer ol’ pappy ragged with the jibber-jabber, i do declare…
i gotsta run, and check on the still, and i’ve got a bigfoot haunch in the smoker that i don’t want t’turn tough on me, so i bes’jes skee-daddle fer now
December 17th, 2007 at 11:04 pmWhy is the focus of the lawsuit and the resulting order only on Christian leaders? Why do you suppose Christians are being singled out?
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 10:42 pm
________________________
No answer yet…………………..
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 10:55 pm
Because, you idiot, the White House only welcomed Christian fundies. How many Muslims, Jews, Jains, Hindus, or Pastifarians do you think were slipping into the White House for special meetings with Der Bush?
You give an entirely new meaning to “dumb”, you know?
December 17th, 2007 at 11:05 pmThe abolute base of the Republican Party today (not 147 years ago) is the old Confederacy where Abraham Lincoln is hated today—2007.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:05 pmComment by tombaker — December 17, 2007 @ 11:04 pm
chl is on lsd. it’s… interesting.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:06 pmComment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 11:05 pm
He snorted a small amount when he was 17 and was honest about it. W snorted tons when he was 30 and lies about it.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:06 pmComment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 11:05 pm
call 911. ask them to send an ambulance. calm yourself.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:07 pmI suppose they are also why the coke snortin’ Obama denies his Muslim heritage?
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 11:05 pm
Like I wrote earlier: panic. This idiot is throwing poop and flailing away like mad because he’s got NOTHING. NOTHING.
Why do you keep denying that you jerk off to pictures of little boys? What? No evidence for that? Why should you care about evidence or truth? Just flinging poop.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:07 pmHe snorted a small amount when he was 17 and was honest about it. W snorted tons when he was 30 and lies about it.
Comment by Keith — December 17, 2007 @ 11:06 pm
chl is still snorting. he needs our help.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:08 pmIs that all you have, cHL, more rightard lies about Obama? While you blow your own coke-snortin’, Muslim-kissing Deserter-In-chief, who protected the very people responsible for 9/11? You have a real hatred for America, that’s all you’ve made clear with your lies and wingnut fantasies. Sucks to be you, a lifelong loser.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:08 pmI suppose they are also why the coke snortin’ Obama denies his Muslim heritage?
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 11:05 pm
heh. we’re on to that claptrap, so Cold, so Hard, so Left.
You have nothing.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:08 pmIs that all you have, cHL, more rightard lies about Obama? While you blow your own coke-snortin’, Muslim-kissing Deserter-In-chief, who protected the very people responsible for 9/11? You have a real hatred for America, that’s all you’ve made clear with your lies and wingnut fantasies. Sucks to be you, a lifelong loser.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — December 17, 2007 @ 11:08 pm
chl, is that true? dubya didn’t fight in viet nam? say it ain’t so!
December 17th, 2007 at 11:09 pmchl?
chl???
December 17th, 2007 at 11:09 pmBush stopped taking his Nat Guard flight physical at the exact time they began including a DRUG TEST as part of the flight physical. Therefore he could not fly–therefore no point in showing up.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:13 pmNo liberal bias indeed.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 11:09 pm
you’re right!
(but so is a broken clock, twice a day.)
December 17th, 2007 at 11:16 pmchl,
December 17th, 2007 at 11:16 pmDid you read all about Christian Socialism and Christian Communism. I referenced them just for you!
chl, this is fun… gimme another one.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:16 pmIt’s hardly liberal bias top point out that the selected failure president Bush deserted his unit in wartime, because he was afraid of being caught with a bloodstream full of cocaine. You’ll have to make a deal, CHL; you stop lying about the left, and we’ll stop exposing the truth about the vile, treasonous right.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:19 pmhow they helped spread the unsubstantiated rumor that President Bush used cocaine ( A huge Deal!).
No liberal bias indeed.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 11:09 pm
Oh BS… Bush’s years as a coke-snortin’ drunkard barely rated a blip in the MSM. if you googgle “bush and coke”, you get 480,00 hits.
“Obama & coke” gets you 487,000.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:20 pmThe liberal media! The liberal media!
christ, when was it you guys were neutered?
Your scare is showing. Lose the thongs.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:20 pm“… and how they helped spread the unsubstantiated rumor that President Bush used cocaine ( A huge Deal!).”
Comment by cold_hard_left
Bush has never denied that he used coke. He’s ducked the question every time it was asked (which was seldom), during the first election. “Journalists” were just too busy pushing “Earthtone Al Invents the Internet” -type stories.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:22 pmJeff Gannon big time male prostitute Christian. Praise jeebus and pass the bombs.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:22 pmCold_hard_leftbehind,
Bush’s alledged use is actually pretty much been admitted to after trying for so long to keep it under wraps. But I guess since he’s your idol it doesn’t matter because you’re only able to see your daddy-figure in a possitive light no matter how much he abuses you.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:22 pmJeff Gannon big time male prostitute Christian. Praise jeebus and pass the bombs.
Comment by jb — December 17, 2007 @ 11:22 pm
chl = jeff gannon?
good catch jb!
December 17th, 2007 at 11:24 pmSome say that “a little knowledge” is a dangerous thing, but in chilly’s case, it’s downright hilarious.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:24 pmJeff Gannon brought the cold hard left to the whitehouse for some purpose.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:26 pmW might have been better off snorting coke than this pure white Jesus $hit.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:28 pmMy Momma always said, “money is the root of all evil” and “Religion is the opiate of the people”. W seems to have had plenty of both filthy lucre and responsibility relieving religion as well as plain old dope.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:31 pmI tried snorting some coke once. The carbonation made me sneeze, so I tried pepsi… same result.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:32 pmGot you good, hey CHL? You’re ashamed of your president’s weakness and cowardice, and you lash out at your betters because of that shame. You need professional help to get over that kind of fear and self-hatred, but, being a stupid republican cocklicker, you can’t afford that help. Hahaha, the joke’s on you!
December 17th, 2007 at 11:32 pmComment by jb — December 17, 2007 @ 11:22 pm
chl = matt sanchez?
here’s some pix of him campaigning on behalf of “huck” huckabee:
http://tombacchus.blogspot.com/2007/03/dirty-sanchez.html
chl, are you matt sanchez?
December 17th, 2007 at 11:32 pmW seems to have had plenty of both filthy lucre and responsibility relieving religion as well as plain old dope.
Comment by jb — December 17, 2007 @ 11:31 pm
Alrighty! A Trifecta!
December 17th, 2007 at 11:32 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism
Did you know every Thanksgiving we celebrate a bunch of Commies?!?
Comment by Keith — December 17, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
Thats why it’s surprising them Christian Commies are “in bed with” the Fascist
Neo-nazisNeocons.=D
December 17th, 2007 at 11:32 pmwell i think chl is really crying now.
but he’ll be back. he’s into humiliation.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:33 pmShuuuush, keith. Hendler will wet himself.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:33 pmMaybe it’s time to waterboard Georgie boy so he will give up the Christianist extremists he’s selling the country out to. religious extremists of any faith don’t belong in the White House.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:34 pmchl, are you matt sanchez?
Comment by joe cantwell — December 17, 2007 @ 11:32 pm
In his dreams….
December 17th, 2007 at 11:36 pmMaybe it’s time to waterboard Georgie boy so he will give up the Christianist extremists he’s selling the country out to. religious extremists of any faith don’t belong in the White House.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — December 17, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
We get such good intel from waterboarding, perhaps we should kick it up a notch and bring back crucifixion? Imagine how safe we would be then.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:38 pm“… and how they helped spread the unsubstantiated rumor that President Bush used cocaine ( A huge Deal!).â€
Comment by cold_hard_left
“I’ve made mistakes.. I haven’t done cocaine during the past seven, no twenty-five years.â€~ George W. Bush
He admitted it, and fscked up his admission at that, like he does every time his lips move.
Do you have any evidence to support your idiocy?
Nothing. You have nothing.
Troll.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:39 pmchl,
quitters never win and winners never quit.
– dick cheney
eh?
December 17th, 2007 at 11:39 pmOops that link went a little wild in that post lol
December 17th, 2007 at 11:40 pmTroll.
Comment by Wayne — December 17, 2007 @ 11:39 pm
no wayne, no. just lost, lonely and confused.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:41 pmand 11 years old.
we’ll probably all end up under investigation after he lies to his Fundie homeschooler mom, and tells her we wanted to have sex with him.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:42 pmno wayne, no. just lost, lonely and confused.
Comment by joe cantwell — December 17, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
If his posts are any indication, he needs counciling ( preferably with a psychiatrist… )
December 17th, 2007 at 11:51 pmMaybe it’s time to waterboard Georgie boy so he will give up the Christianist extremists he’s selling the country out to. religious extremists of any faith don’t belong in the White House.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — December 17, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
Extremists of ANY type do not belong in the White House, not just religious nutbags. LOL
Cheney is what I would label an extremist, also.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:56 pmYou just get excited that you can type any stupid thing at all and no one can really stop you — unlike whatever pathetic life you’re struggling through where no one ever listens.
Comment by gummitch
We can stop him from flinging poop around this place if enough of you flag him instead of playing with him. He’s being particularly obtuse tonight and you are all falling for it.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:58 pmIf his posts are any indication, he needs counciling ( preferably with a psychiatrist… )
Comment by Wayne — December 17, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
at this point wayne what’s the difference? chl is all conservatives; trying to come to grips with their irrelevance.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:59 pmcold_hardheaded_idiot is back, to post more poop and nothing to back it up.
What a lamer……
December 17th, 2007 at 11:59 pmNo Tom, I’m too old for you But I’m curious, how many little boys have supposedly told such “lies†about you? That was quite a revealing post on your part. You aren’t under house arrest are you?
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 11:56 pm
your dumbest post yet. i’m crying with happiness.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:02 amBack to the topic of the post…..One would think a Christian would have no problem with ethics, but not this Pres.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:02 amCould it be that W is not really christian, but just using it as a crutch?
December 18th, 2007 at 12:04 amIf his posts are any indication, he needs counciling ( preferably with a psychiatrist… )
Comment by Wayne — December 17, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
You might be on to something. His devotion does seem to indicate the type of response you’d find in someone who is in fear and lashing out in all directions to defend himself – As well as his unbridled affection for his Daddy-figure Bush who guards and protects him from evil-doers.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:04 amCHL – here’s your answer, for this particular lawsuit. There are others asking for the records of Abramoff and others to the White House:
“We think that these conservative Christian leaders have had a very big impact,” said Executive Director Melanie Sloan of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, which filed the case.
“The White House doesn’t want to talk about how much influence these leaders have, and we want to talk about how much they do have,” she said.
Now, let me ask you a question. If the suit had been filed against Bush asking for the records of prominent Jewish leaders who have been to the White House, would you be having this hissy fit?
December 18th, 2007 at 12:05 amOne would think a Christian would have no problem with ethics, but not this Pres.
Comment by jb — December 18, 2007 @ 12:02 am
Indeed… focus, people, focus.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:05 amsorry chilly – i have a hot wife.
“hot” is a kind of wife who is considered very attractive. we have sex. i don’t have time to give you the whole birds-and-bees talk right now, and i think it would be more appropriate for you to learn about that aspect of grownup life from your Minister.
you’d need to go to a GOP fundraiser to find yourself a Daddy.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:10 amComment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
There were many, many Christian Socialists & Communists long, long before there was ever “Wikipedia”. Try a good university library. State U libraries are open to any citizen of the state.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:11 amWe can stop him from flinging poop around this place if enough of you flag him instead of playing with him. He’s being particularly obtuse tonight and you are all falling for it.
Comment by bilbobaggins — December 17, 2007 @ 11:58 pm
Oh, I’m flagging him, been flagging him for days. Now I’m slapping his stupidity down too.
That troll wouldn’t know a fact if it slapped him across the head with a 10 pound sledge.
It’s Hillarious that it is well documented that Bush admitted snorting coke and that he still a lush. This loony troll tries to reinvent reality
December 18th, 2007 at 12:12 amI fear some of those Church Leaders may have been auctioning off their congregations’ votes, in exchange for “faith-based” tax dollars.
This may mesh together with Grassley’s investigation into financial abuses among some mega-church leaders, which is ongoing.
And they wonder why Separation was written into the Constitution
December 18th, 2007 at 12:14 amThis loony troll tries to reinvent reality
Comment by Wayne — December 18, 2007 @ 12:12 am
It’s a survival instinct for his breed.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:15 amhow was that for some harcore, OT posting, huh??
December 18th, 2007 at 12:15 amLike a trip through the mind of a psychopath on hallucinogens. Not so much off topic but never really “on-topic.”
December 18th, 2007 at 12:19 amGood times though, thanks for the memories. Y’all have a good night.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:19 amI fear some of those Church Leaders may have been auctioning off their congregations’ votes, in exchange for “faith-based†tax dollars.
This may mesh together with Grassley’s investigation into financial abuses among some mega-church leaders, which is ongoing.
And they wonder why Separation was written into the Constitution
Comment by tombaker — December 18, 2007 @ 12:14 am
I think you nailed it. Seems to be the hallmark of this administration to funnel money from the US Treasury into the hands of donors. Faith based bull$hit, bull$hit privatizing of the military. Ripping off the treasury to right wing extremists. W’s mission accomplished.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:24 amI am not sure what CHL thinks he has accomplished by posting his babble here, but if it was to show the world that Bush loyalists are actually a mentally challenged lot, then he has succeeded. Beyond his wildest dreams, I would add.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:25 amThe MegaChurches, or “Spiritual WalMarts” are run by very shrewd MBA and Marketing types these days. They know more about influence-peddling and revenue streams than ever the College of Cardinals did, and that’s saying a lot.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:27 amThere were many, many Christian Socialists & Communists long, long before there was ever “Wikipediaâ€. Try a good university library. State U libraries are open to any citizen of the state.
Comment by Keith — December 18, 2007 @ 12:11 am
And in that university library, you will find history books of the earliest records of the origin of the God of the Abrahamic Faiths, which includes Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Yahweh was originally a sky god – a god of thunder and lightning. He was also associated with hills mountains and volcanoes. He was associated also with fire. Historical Fact.
He required blood sacrifice. Sometimes it was the blood of enemies. Sometimes livestock and other animals. Sometimes believers were asked to sacrifice their own children, depending on the incarnation. Historical Fact.
And to this day, the Children of Abraham, including Judaism, Christianity and Islam, shed the blood of others, including their own Siblings of Abraham. Historical Fact, and Current Events.
Too bad more people don’t really read history and wake the hell up.
Now I’m gonna be called a fanatical Athiest…. Oh,no….
December 18th, 2007 at 12:29 amOn topic, it is puzzling that the Secret Service should even think of arguing that releasing their records will “reveal confidential policy deliberations.”
“Confidential policy deliberations”? Between Pres Bush and these so-called Christian leaders?
What policy deliberations could the president possibly have had with these religious leaders?
December 18th, 2007 at 12:30 amComment by Wayne — December 17, 2007 @ 11:39 pm
So, it logically follows that Bush was doing cocaine until 1973 or 1991—depending on which of the two figures he gives you believe.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:30 amWayne.
I’d love to hear some Yahwehan Thunder and see a lighting bolt thrown this way and that.
You fanatical Atheist.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:33 amNow I’m gonna be called a fanatical Athiest…. Oh,no….
Comment by Wayne — December 18, 2007 @ 12:29 am
I don’t know. You could be in favor of human sacrifice.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:34 am“Confidential policy deliberationsâ€= selling the votes of the churchfolk, hence the unusual interest in “discretion”.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:35 am“So, it logically follows that Bush was doing cocaine until 1973 or 1991—depending on which of the two figures he gives you believe.”
I think he just did it till he ran out, then started blaming Democrats for stuff.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:37 amI don’t know. You could be in favor of human sacrifice.
Comment by Keith — December 18, 2007 @ 12:34 am
Actually I am more of a fruits of my labor kind of guy, blood sacrifice is soo messy
lol
December 18th, 2007 at 12:40 amI wonder if Gannon and Bush ever prayed together?
December 18th, 2007 at 12:47 am156 – if, by “prayed” you mean “roughly rogered each others’ bottoms” you might be onto something.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:49 amCBS poll Oct 18, 2007
“Among white evangelical registered voters, 23 percent want to hear presidential candidates discuss health care, while 20 percent want them to talk about the war in Iraq. Both figures are only slightly lower than the overall population of registered voters. Abortion and same-sex marriage were at the bottom of the list for both groups.”
December 18th, 2007 at 12:51 amSo, it logically follows that Bush was doing cocaine until 1973 or 1991—depending on which of the two figures he gives you believe.
Comment by Keith — December 18, 2007 @ 12:30 am
From the twitching jaw in so many newsclips, it is my opinion he never quit.
Addicts never are “recovered” or “healed”, to claim so means they more than likely have slipped. Once an alcoholic always an alcoholic. Once an addict always an addict. It is always a battle with their addiction, to not drink,snort, or shoot again.
Check out AA literature, etc.
I have a few recovering alcoholics and addicts in my extended family. They always have tostayaway from that “just one won’t hurt” that always sends them to the abyss again.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:54 amHow about posting to an article where an admitted “blow†fiend has ever been elected President.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
I can’t. W wasn’t elected either time!
December 18th, 2007 at 1:52 am“Why is the focus of the lawsuit and the resulting order only on Christian leaders? Why do you suppose Christians are being singled out?”
Well, Jesus H. Christ!!! How many Muslim leaders do you think visited old Bushie???
December 18th, 2007 at 1:56 amHow about posting to an article where an admitted “blow†fiend has ever been elected President.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/time/1999/08/23/bush.html
There is your article, freak.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:56 am“If there was ever proof of a double standard in the Mainstream media it’s the contrast between the way the Press so far has dealt with Obama’s admitted cocaine use (a non story for them) and how they helped spread the unsubstantiated rumor that President Bush used cocaine ( A huge Deal!).”
Well, let’s see, genius. One told the truth and one was a lying sack of sh!t. I wouldn’t expect YOU to understand the difference.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:57 amLet’s not upset King George or he might throw us lefty traitors onto the gallows. Bushco has the God-given right to spend our taxpayer money any way they please once this money is paid to the government.
Isn’t that the way our government works? Am I mistaken!? Silly me!
December 18th, 2007 at 2:27 amIsn’t that the way our government works? Am I mistaken!? Silly me!
Comment by Willy — December 18, 2007 @ 2:27 am
No, Sorry, my mistake totally.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:06 amI was under the assumption that this was still a free country.
=P
tombaker – Considering who we’re talking about, I think spelling prayed like this preyed would probably be more apropos.
December 18th, 2007 at 4:06 amHahaha, the joke’s on you!
Comment by Lefty Patriot
No, the joke is still between his legs…
December 18th, 2007 at 6:54 am“Why is the focus of the lawsuit and the resulting order only on Christian leaders? Why do you suppose Christians are being singled out?â€
It could be that, given the level of incompetence of the current administration, coupled with it’s self-avowed Christian beliefs, competent folks want to know which fuc-ups have been ruining the country.
December 18th, 2007 at 6:59 am#70 – “It was the Southern Democrats who fought to preserve it, and lost.” Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 11:00 pm
Then in the 60’s, the Democrat supported civil rights, while the Republicans fought against it.
Then the racist Dems left the Democratic party and joined the Republicans.
Now you see how the Republican party became (and still is) the party of the racist.
No need to thank me, I’m always more than happy to educate you when you make obvious, massive mistakes of this nature.
December 18th, 2007 at 7:12 amEverything you type is a lie Lefty. Especially that part where you call yourself a “patriot.â€
Comment by cold_hard_left
This is what passes for critical thought and reasoned argument in the republican party folks. This is why, after 7 years our country is so far off track. This is the logic that dragged us into the Iraq war.
December 18th, 2007 at 7:43 amLet’s “bring ‘em on”! Those records are public information.
December 18th, 2007 at 8:00 amBOO! Be afraid, CHL…those scaaary liberals are coming for you. They will take away your guns, Bible and SUV. They will make you wear a burqa while working overtime to pay enormous taxes to support universal healthcare to everyone except white people and pay for entitlement payments to illegal immigrants. You will be forced to bow to Mecca and dance for the pleasure of your Chinese and Saudi overlords. Hordes of naked gay jihadis will use you as a concubine. Sundays, you will not be allowed to go to church, but will instead be sent to toil in the fields of an African American farmer as part of the government-mandated reparations program. Oh yes–it’s all coming soon. Your name is near the top of the list.
December 18th, 2007 at 8:01 amOff topic but comical: On Huffpo Bill is embracing Bush #41 as though he’s his father! It states further that once Hillary is elected, she will send the two of them (Clinton and Bush 41) on a good will mission to repair our rep internationally. THIS IS A HUGE ERROR ON THE PART OF THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN> The public alliance of Bill and Bush 41 will link these two men in the minds of america forever now.
Besides, those of us who do our homework already know that Clinton is as guilty of war crimes in the depleted uranium problem as Bush 41 and Bush 43. They are now partners in crime. This proves it.
Clinton is Bush Lite. Always was and always will be. Clinton is Bush’s “poodle”, affiliated with AIPAC and everything wrong with this administration.
A vote for Hillary Clinton will be a vote for another Bush puppet.
December 18th, 2007 at 8:14 amI’ve always had questions about this alliance (Pappy Bush and Bill Clinton) and this seals it for me.
December 18th, 2007 at 8:16 am181…CHL–You must just shake your head at all the poor deluded minorities in this country. Why do they vote Democratic, when it is SO clear that the Republicans are the ones that want them in their party, neighborhoods and country clubs? Your party just isn’t getting that message of “inclusion” out there. Perhaps your time would be better spent working with the Latino and African-American communities to understand just how good the last seven years have really been for them. That’s not starvation you’re feeling, those are FREEDOM pangs! And this isn’t an eviction notice, it is LIBERATING you from your house!
December 18th, 2007 at 9:02 amSo you see “Democrat Soldier†(#169), it is the DEMOCRAT party that was and always has been the party of the racist.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 18, 2007 @ 8:45 am
That may be your most insane posting yet. Yes, The Republicans were, note were, the party of Lincoln, but that ship sailed long ago and now the Republican party’s leadership is filled with bigots, racists, and closeted self-loathing gays. Continue to insist things that are demonstrably untrue and cherry pick past misdeeds of democrats and fringe democrats who have no power while your party’s entire platform and reason for existing is class warfare and fear mongering. The will ensure that your party goes the way of the Whigs.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:17 am#181 – “So you see “Democrat Soldier†(#169), it is the DEMOCRAT party that was and always has been the party of the racist.” Comment by cold_hard_left — December 18, 2007 @ 8:45 am
Then how do you explain all the racist Dems jumping ship and joining up with the Republicans?
“At the Democratic National Convention in 1948, Minneapolis mayor Hubert H. Humphrey introduced the civil rights plank calling for the rights of “full and equal political participation; equal opportunity of employment; security of person; and equal treatment in the service and defense of our nation.” He then delivered an impassioned speech demanding that the Democrats recognize that “the time has come . . . to get out of the shadow of states’ rights and forthrightly into the bright sunshine of civil rights.” Thirty-five southern Democrats walked out of the convention, formed the States’ Rights Party (Dixiecrats), held their own convention, and nominated Strom Thurmond their presidential candidate. [Johnson, National Party Platforms, p. 435; Carol Solberg, Hubert Humphrey: A Biography (New York: W.W. Norton & Company, 1984), pp. 11-18.]”
http://www.gwu.edu/~erpapers/mep/displaydoc.cfm?docid=jfk20
Sen. Thurmond was a REPUBLICAN when he shuffled off this mortal coil. Republicans have been, and still are, the true party of the racists.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:20 am#184 – “But then, your party has quite a history of bigotry, from its promotion of slavery, to its internment of Japanese, to its opposition to the Civil Rights and Voting Rights acts, and even through today.” Comment by cold_hard_left — December 18, 2007 @ 9:11 am
Why are you calling the Republicans “your party”???
December 18th, 2007 at 9:21 amhttps://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/feb2003/cong-f11.shtml
“The newly appointed head of the US House of Representatives subcommittee on terrorism and domestic security said last week that he agreed with the incarceration of more than 100,000 Japanese-Americans during World War II.
Speaking on a February 5 radio call-in show, Howard Coble, a Republican representative from North Carolina, said the internment was “appropriate at the time,†adding, “We were at war. We were under attack by a sovereign nation.—
The Republican party has been, and remains to this day, the party of the racists.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:24 amMakes one wonder why the NAACP gave Sen. Byrd a 100% approval rating, if he we’re still a racist.
He’s not. He apologized for his past actions, and has done a great deal for his black constituents than most Republicans have ever done.
Sen. Thurmond NEVER APOLOGIZED for HIS racist past.
The Republican Party: racist yesterday, racist today, racist tomorrow.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:27 amcold_hard_left
http://www.theherald.co.za/colarc/cull/cu140604.htm
The Republican party has been, and remains to this day, the party of the racists.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:28 am“I coach PONY baseball at a largely Cuban park, and trust me…
Cold_Dead_Idiot”
Trust you? Why on earth would ANYONE trust you? You have to earn trust. Try it sometime. idiot
December 18th, 2007 at 9:35 amI coach PONY baseball at a largely Cuban park, and trust me,
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 18, 2007 @ 9:11 am
What organization allows a sociopath like you to interact with children? Seriously, if your postings on this board are in any way indicative of how your interact in the real world, you should be kept as far away from children as possible. I truly mean that, you are one sick person.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:41 amWow! I was completely taken by surprise to learn that it’s really
December 18th, 2007 at 9:56 amReverend Guckert!
So you see “Democrat Soldier†(#169), it is the DEMOCRAT party that was and always has been the party of the racist.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 18, 2007 @ 8:45 am
you’ve run out of medicine again, chl. democrats left racism to the republicans hundred years ago. we know when we’ve been usurped, repigs do racism so much better.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:12 amJust where is this Democrat party? Is it associated with the republic party?
December 18th, 2007 at 10:29 amCHL’s “hardness” apparently failed again – he is sounding verrry frustrated.
Like pushing a rope uphill, huh, guy?
December 18th, 2007 at 11:29 amcold hard left: ““Progressive Politics†date back to the earliest days of Stalinism.”
Could someone get dumber than this? Hard to imagine. Thomas Paine, one of the nation’s founders believed in free healthcare for everyone, a social safety net for everyone and was an outspoken athiest. Thomas Jefferson believed in free education for everyone and thought that there should be no standing army in peacetime. John Adams, the nations first “conservative,” believed that Christianity was basically a crime committed on reason and society. Long before Stalin, Teddy Roosevelt believed in inheritance taxes, progressive taxation and child labor laws.
These are all “progressive” policies. One of Stalin’s first acts upon rising to power was to round up university professors and “liberals” and send them off to gulags.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:47 pmThe other canard this “Cold hard left” keeps repeating is this absurd idea that the Chinese got nuclear secrets from Clinton.
The Chinese tested their first neutron bomb in 1985. In the early 90’s, the Chinese got newer nuclear weapons technology from Pakistan’s AQ Khan. The record shows that in the late 80’s the CIA warned the Reagan and then the first Bush administration that Khan was dangerous, but Reagan and Bush did nothing about him. Those are the facts you moron.
This site is where you get facts, not frickin Free Republic.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:51 pmCold hard idiot: “Why are Christian leaders the only target of the lawsuit? Answers?”
Do you see any indication that leaders of other denominations are engaging in electoral politics and talking political strategy with the executive branch? If you do, let’s have it.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:53 pmCold hard idiot: ” it is the DEMOCRAT party that was and always has been the party of the racist.”
Do the words “Southern Strategy” mean anything to you. If not, google on those words and 1968 and find out.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:55 pmcold hard idiot: “A little known fact of history involves the heavy opposition to the civil rights movement by several prominent Democrats.”
Yes. All of them were from the south. Life-long democrat Strom Thurmond, for example, left the party when it became clear that the Democratic party was being taken over by northern Democrats who were dedicated to the idea of civil rights.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:59 pm