Read Randy Shilts’ “Conduct Unbecoming” for a shocking revelation of the way gay men have been treated by the U. S. military throughout history.

Then recall that it was a GAY MAN who whipped George Washington’s ragtag army into a fighting machine that defeated the best army in the world 230 years ago. (Baron Fredrich von
Stuben.)

Late USAF Staff Sergeant Leonard Matolovich, awarded the Silver Star for heroism in Vietnam, lamented: “The military gave me a medal for killing two men but kicked me out for loving one.”

Why the he!! are you forcing your heterosexuality on me? I don’t care that you like snatch, but I don’t want you forcing your lifestyle on me.

See how that sounds, Frank M? You make yourself look and sound incredibly silly when you trot out that tired old line about “shoving your lifestyle in our faces” canard.

Getting rid of good soldiers who have never done anything to compromise the job they do, just because you think they are “immoral”, thus robbing their unit of another warm body that the Army is having a hard time replacing……

If that doesn’t scream “support the troops”, then I don’t know what does.

Frank M,
gay people in the military don’t dress like they’re in the Village People, you know.
The military pretty much shuns any kind of clothing that doesn’t abide by regulations.

Comment by ralph the wonder llama — December 17, 2007 @ 3:00 pm

It is odd (well . . . ) having a homo thread without Daryll but maybe he’s on his way to those naughty beaches in Brazil. How do you say “butter my beans!” in Portuguese?

pipe down

Isn’t that gay code for something?

Comment by Frank M — December 17, 2007 @ 2:05 pm

Gee, Frankie…like you force YOUR abnormality on us every friggin’ day??

I’m kinda worried.

“Omniphobe”!!

I like that term – it has a nice omnipresent, omnipurpose ring to it.

“Bush’s foreign policy is omniphobic in both cause and effect.”

Yes, it’s an excellent term.

That’s right CBS. Be proud that these troops are dying enmass for your freedom to shut the F#ck up, O.K.?

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Frank isn’t a homophobe. To be a homophobe he would have to specifically fear homosexuals.

No, Frank is in fact an Omniphobe – he fears everything.

They’ve adopted a lot of exotic camouflage, and layers of rationalization to support and conceal it, but at the end of the day they are garden-variety haters, with an agenda that’s geared to marginalizing and dehumanizing brown people, women, gay people, and anyone else their archaic worldview deems “deviant”.

Just stop being afraid.

When you stop being afraid, the characteristics of the war become clearer, and the nature of the enemy becomes easier to understand.

It is only through the radical rights fear agenda that you have done so badly on it so far – because it is through their fear mongering that the enemy is winning.

Conservatives cannot win wars, because conservatives must always both exagerate and underestimate the strength of the enemy. A enemy must be dangerously strong, but weak enough to be easily defeated at the same time. In other words, conservatives never know just how big a force they are fighting.

Liberalism teaches us to put aside our emotions and our wishes for vengeance and look at the situation as it is, and then figure out how to fix it, or if it can be fixed. To a liberal saving face comes second to the overall victory.

Iraq is quagmire with no good options. It is entangling ground which is hurting America’s ability to fund its efforts to fight terror with weapons that will actually work. These weapons are politics and humour.

To kill Osama Bin Laden will not beat him. He has become an icon which will gain greater strength via his death. To beat Osama you must shame him. You must use politics to find his weakness and expose it, because no man is without sin and those who pray loudest have the biggest sins to hide.

America cannot beat Osama Bin Laden when America’s only option being kept on the table is to go to war. America cannot win the war on terror, with a president who cannot talk to world leaders and Bush is such a president. He has alienated your closest allies and he has solidified opposition to you amongst your enemies.

But America can win the war on terror under a president who can present you with more options then just guns. Under a president who when faced with something like 9/11, keeps his cool and calms the nation, you can win. Under a president who can talk to world leaders, you can win. Under a president who understands that running a country is not easy, you can win.

But to get this president, you must choose to stop being afraid, to get this president you must win your own personal wars on terror.

Good question. I also wonder why “Jerry’s Kids” keep advertising their abnormality.

/snark off (**shiver** this one was even creepy to type)

Comment by Doofus — December 17, 2007 @ 1:35 pm

Graduate of Regent University. Splains a lot.

http://gideon.cwfa.org/articledisplay.asp?id=12786&department=CWA&categoryid=

“the bleeding-heart lefties over at CBS News”
– CBS?? Are you kidding? Katie Couric obediently parrots every talking point the White House shovels out in their press releases. CBS hasn’t had anything close to a bleeding-heart lefty since Edward R. Murrow. And even he was more interested in fair journalism than a political agenda of his own — he just got that moniker because he went after Joe McCarthy.

“The military is no place for such radical San Francisco-style social experimentation, especially during a time of war.”
– People like Matt Barber said a lot of things like this in 1948, when the armed forced became integrated. I doubt Matt has a problem with black and white soldiers fighting side by side. Furthermore, gays and straights fighting together is hardly “radical” — it’s been going on for quite some time, despite people like Matt pretending it hasn’t.

“It’s been the Department of Defense’s long-standing position that to allow open homosexual behavior and other immoral conduct harms unit cohesion and troop morale.”
– It would seem to me that open sexual behavior of ANY kind would harm unit cohesion and troop morale. Not to mention being just plain unseemly! I’m all for keeping actual homosexual behavior out of sight as long as it applies to heterosexual behavior as well.

no need for you to advertise your abnormality. it’s common knowledge.