ThinkFast: December 17, 2007
ThinkFast: December 17, 2007
The Senate is set to begin debate today on a FISA bill that would overhaul the rules for electronic surveillance. Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) has elected to bring legislation to the Senate floor that would provide retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies that participated in the Bush administration’s illegal spying efforts. Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) will reportedly filibuster the bill. FDL has more.
Saudi King Abdullah has pardoned a teenage gang-rape victim who had been sentenced to 200 lashes and a six-month jail term for “being alone with a man unrelated to her.” A Saudi appeals court had punished the rape victim for going to the media with her story.
Pentagon officials are pressuring President Bush to “accelerate a troop drawdown in Iraq and bulk up force levels in Afghanistan. … Senior administration officials now believe Afghanistan may pose a greater longer-term challenge than Iraq.”
“While violence is down in Iraq, Americans continue to die and fall badly wounded, and suffer severe stress and trauma caused by 15-month tours of duty. A remarkable article on Friday in the Army Times is titled: ‘Not us. We’re not going: Soldiers in 2nd Platoon, Charlie 1-26 stage a mutiny that pulls the unit apart.”
Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL) writes of “the case for impeachment hearings.” Along with fellow House Judiciary Committee members Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) and Tammy Baldwin (D-WI), Wexler is calling for the commencement of impeachment hearings against Vice President Cheney.
Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI), the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, yesterday promised that he will push forward with “a probe into the destruction of CIA videotapes of detainee interrogations, despite a Justice Department request that congressional inquiries be suspended.”
The House-Senate conference report on the FY 2008 intelligence authorization bill “is heavily focused on the use of private contractors by intelligence agencies,” stating that the intelligence community lacks clear definitions of functions to be performed by contractors and whether contractors are performing tasks “that should be performed by government employees.”
And finally: President Bush has “a regular posse of eight to 10 cyclists” who join him on his 90-minute weekend bike rides. Legislative aide Barrett Karr, who often joins the group, said that Bush “usually takes the lead as the group heads out, but at some point…will say, ‘Let the dogs out‘ — and the faster riders will zoom to the front.” Another rider, economic adviser Edward P. Lazear, said, “We ride hard. There’s no question. We ride really hard.”
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And finally: President Bush has “a regular posse of eight to 10 cyclists†who join him on his 90-minute weekend bike rides. Legislative aide Barrett Karr, who often joins the group, said that Bush “usually takes the lead as the group heads out, but at some point…will say, ‘Let the dogs out‘ — and the faster riders will zoom to the front.†Another rider, economic adviser Edward P. Lazear, said, “We ride hard. There’s no question. We ride really hard.â€
Word is the president tearfully removed the Roger Clemens card from the spokes of his bike tire after the Mitchell report.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:08 amhey harry, you walk barney too?
you are JUNK you TRAITOR!
show me in the constitution where it says corporations get a free pass when they KNOW they are breaking the law.
FU*K YOU HARRY THE TRAITOR!
December 17th, 2007 at 9:10 amRobert Wexler: American Hero & Patriot!! Go Wexler!!
December 17th, 2007 at 9:10 amReid and his Democrats have abandoned the will of the American people. Go it alone harry.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:11 am“While violence is down in Iraq, Americans continue to die and fall badly wounded, and suffer severe stress and trauma caused by 15-month tours of duty. A remarkable article on Friday in the Army Times is titled: ‘Not us. We’re not going: Soldiers in 2nd Platoon, Charlie 1-26 stage a mutiny that pulls the unit apart.â€
That is AWESOME! soldiers standing up for what is right…. hey they do have a brain…. well other than bush’s.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:12 amWexler is calling for the commencement of impeachment hearings against Vice President Cheney…
That would be an excellent Christmas present to America, eh?
Mr. Reid, regarding your willingness to give Telcoms immunity, can anyone explain to the American people why that was being done before 9/11?
December 17th, 2007 at 9:13 amHarry Reid isn’t a “clean” member of Congress, this we know. And I’m certain that his silence was bought by the GOP frauds. Pelosi is a disgraceful charlatan posing as a concerned democratic representative.
Both of these clowns need to be fired from their positions by their Party OR THE PARTY BECOMES COMPLICIT.
How often have we seen it - Pelosi & Reid play “nice guy” by rolling over to Bush’s demands and then the GOP uses their very “spinelessness” against them - calling them a sham, a fraud, and worthless? Don’t these democratic clowns get it yet? This IS the GOP game and they’re been snookered in every day.
The mere fact that Wexler continues to get 1-2,000 signatures per hour is very telling and soon the complicit and fraudulent MSM will have no choice but to begin to tell the people what’s going on.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:13 amGood luck Chris. But you don’t have enough wind to blow harry away.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:14 amSigning Wexler’s impeachment petition is one way for americans to regain their voice and power in this government; another is to change party affiliation to “independent” immediately following the primaries - or now if you’re angry and disgusted enough - and then we’ll see who the candidates pander to…..then we’ll see the power shift back to the people where it belongs.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:14 amZimzone: Maybe the telecoms can provide testimony then about what bush knew and when it knew it regarding 911 since they were snooping on americans well in advance of 911 (while bush went on national television lying to us that he was only spying on foreign calls - yeah right….he’s a disgrace!).
December 17th, 2007 at 9:17 amRep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI), the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, yesterday promised that he will push forward with “a probe into the destruction of CIA videotapes of detainee interrogations, despite a Justice Department request that congressional inquiries be suspended.â€
Shorter Hoekstra: “Me! me! I’ll do the cover-up!”
December 17th, 2007 at 9:17 amSen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) will reportedly filibuster the bill. FDL has more.
Here’s wishing you the best of luck on the filibuster Senator Dodd. It’s nice to know that we have at least one Senator who is willing to stand up for “we the people”.
Does anyone know how the Democrats in the Senate can get rid of Harry Reid? Does it take a simple vote by the Democratic members?
December 17th, 2007 at 9:18 amI am against retroactive immunity for the telecom companies, but if we must have it, I hope they ALL get subpoenaed to testify about what surveillance they conducted, when they were approached to do it, what exactly they were asked to do, and who did the asking.
After all, with immunity, they can’t plead the fifth.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:18 amDodd’s Filibuster is beginning !!
The FISA bill gets dealt with today. This is the story of the day. If Hillary or Barack don’t join Dodd in his filibuster how can anyone even contemplate voting for them? The 4th amendment is about to be destroyed. Rhetoric condemning the bill is not enough. Voting NO on the bill is not enough. The bill must be STOPPED.
If Hillary and Barack lack the energy, courage or conviction to Filibuster this bill then they’re not fit to lead a parade, much less the entire free world. I challenge the Hillary and Barack supporters to get on the phone, call their candidate and demand they Filibuster this monstrosity.
How can even the most ardent Hillary or Barack supporter claim their candidate should be President if they won’t use every available tool to protect Americans from being spied on by their government? That’s the question you need to ask!! Save the 4th amendment!! No retroactive immunity for telcos and No basket warrants!
Start fighting to save the 4th amendment right now:
December 17th, 2007 at 9:19 am1-800-828-0498
1-800-614-2803
Pentagon officials are pressuring President Bush to “accelerate a troop drawdown in Iraq and bulk up force levels in Afghanistan.
Good luck with that one guys. I guess the haven’t gotten the memo that the occupation of Iraq is all about oil and has nothing to do with “bringing democracy to the region”. Since Afghanistan doesn’t have large reserves of oil, the Bush cabal will not be interested in doing anything further there.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:20 amPentagon officials are pressuring President Bush to “accelerate a troop drawdown in Iraq and bulk up force levels in Afghanistan. … Senior administration officials now believe Afghanistan may pose a greater longer-term challenge than Iraq.â€
It’s almost like the insurgents flowing back into Afghanistan got advanced training and live-fire experience from someplace. Now where could that have been?
December 17th, 2007 at 9:20 am“Saudi King Abdullah has pardoned a teenage gang-rape victim”
Even King Abdullah recognizes a PR nightmare when he sees one. I wish I could say that the U.S. had something to do with that, but what power do we have against the Saudis these days to incent them to do what we want? All we could give them would be to invade Iran or something. Oh wait…
December 17th, 2007 at 9:23 amWhile Bush prepares to veto S-CHIP again, needy families up here in the frozen tundra have no insurance.
Our homeless shelters are completely full and are turning people away. The biggest surprise on this issue in 2007 is how many working families are homeless.
Yes, working families! How can they possibly afford medical insurance when they don’t even have a home?
This problem will increase significantly as mortgage defaults rise. But, hey, as long as the Telcoms get retroactive immunity, who gives a shit?
December 17th, 2007 at 9:23 amThe Senate is set to begin debate today on a FISA bill that would overhaul the rules for electronic surveillance. Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) has elected to bring legislation to the Senate floor that would provide retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies that participated in the Bush’s administration’s illegal spying efforts. Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) will reportedly filibuster the bill. FDL has more.
I am beginning to wonder if the Republicans secretly elected Harry Reid as their leader, too. He caves in too many times to the Republicans, giving them everything they want.
Good luck, Senator Dodd. I’ll be watching my Senators, Schumer and Clinton, to see if they stand up for what’s right or stand with the president.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:23 amUnfortunately, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are hollow empty shells. They are cowards. They won’t be joining Senator Chris Dodd in his filibuster of the monstrous FISA bill. And we’re going to lose the 4th amendment.
The people who plan on voting for Hillary and Barack find this fact acceptable. Its probably because they’re cowards too. Because they know Hillary and Barack would let them down. Hillary and Barack are too politcally calculating to ever take a real stand.
Damnit, we’re under attack from a domestic enemy! Why the hell aren’t Hillary and Barack joining Chris Dodd in his Filibuster? Its okay to Hillary and Barack to let the 4th amendment die? And they want MY vote? You gotta be kidding!!
If the Hillary and Barack supporters take offense at this statement all they must do is call them. Demand they stand shoulder to shoulder with Chris Dodd and join the filibuster. Tell them to fight, dammit, for the 4th amendment! But I know they won’t call. Because then they’d have to deal with reality. That Hillary and Barack are all talk and no action.
Upset? Prove me wrong. Tell Hillary and Barack to join the Filibuster!
1-800-828-0498
1-800-614-2803
December 17th, 2007 at 9:25 amA remarkable article on Friday in the Army Times is titled: ‘Not us. We’re not going: Soldiers in 2nd Platoon, Charlie 1-26 stage a mutiny that pulls the unit apart.â€
Wow, the Army Times is not a bastion of liberalism. For them to have published that article is rather telling. Read the story. It’s very sad. And it will make you angry at what our military is doing to these people.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:26 amRep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI), the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, yesterday promised that he will push forward with “a probe into the destruction of CIA videotapes..
It’s very nice that Hoekstra is standing up to Bully Boy Bush, but where are the Democrats? I would love to send Nancy Pelosi an e-mail about this, but she is no longer taking e-mail at her Speaker website. They just bounce back.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:28 amPentagon officials are pressuring President Bush to “accelerate a troop drawdown in Iraq and bulk up force levels in Afghanistan. … Senior administration officials now believe Afghanistan may pose a greater longer-term challenge than Iraq.â€
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And maybe with enough troops there, you think we might find Osama bin Laden at some point?
Seriously, we can move troops from Iraq into Afghanistan like we’re playing with a giant RISK board. We can exhaust our military anywhere. The problem is going to be not only maintaining all these “long term” challenges we insist on creating, but how we are going to staff the new “long term” challenge we want to create in Iran.
At some point, we need to realize that our presence in all these places is just fueling anti-American sentiment and the growth of terrorism in general, and if we are going to continue feeding this fire, we will need to reinstate the draft to ensure a steady supply of human battle fodder.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:29 amGood luck, Senator Dodd. I’ll be watching my Senators, Schumer and Clinton, to see if they stand up for what’s right or stand with the president.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — December 17, 2007 @ 9:23 am
Wayne, not enough to just watch, unfortunately. Chris Dodd needs help. He needs the party’s top candidates to join him if the filibuster is to succeed. And once again Hillary and Barack are missing in action. They want my vote? Laughable.
From FDL:
Senator Dodd will not be alone; a handful of Democratic Senators — including Russ Feingold and Ted Kennedy — will be there to support him, and for those who promised to help, this is the time. They have to help him because their party’s so-called leadership has failed, again, in an all too familiar pattern of ineptitude and enabling.
…But these few Democrats will not be enough to stop this travesty, and the question is: who will be there to help them? They need help, our help, the media’s help and the help of every Senator and Representative who still believes in the Constitution’s principles of accountable government and civil liberties.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:30 amAfter all, with immunity, they can’t plead the fifth.
Comment by missmolly
That’s a good point mismolly. Problem is that Bush will tell them to ignore the subpoenas, probably claiming Executive Privilege and the Democrats will roll over and allow them to get away with it. They’ve done it with Meiers and Bolton, setting the stage for anyone to say “sorry, I am just going to ignore that subpoena”.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:32 amDodd-Wexler ‘08!
Seems like these 2 are the only ones who have had a look at the Bill of Rights.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:35 amA remarkable article on Friday in the Army Times is titled: ‘Not us. We’re not going: Soldiers in 2nd Platoon, Charlie 1-26 stage a mutiny that pulls the unit apart.â€
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This is one of the saddest articles I’ve read. Sanity — like physical strength — has limits. We are pushing our troops beyond that limit. Even if our leaders have no compassion for our troops as human beings, I would think they would see the wisdom of preserving their combat units as much as possible, since we don’t have a large back-up supply.
Why do our leaders hate our troops?
December 17th, 2007 at 9:37 am“the intelligence community lacks clear definitions of functions to be performed by contractors and whether contractors are performing tasks “that shouldd be performed by government employees.â€
I don’t know about you, but I am very uncomfortable with having our intelligence gathering in the hands of a for profit corporation. They are in it for the money and what’s to say that their opinions might be based on who is willing to pay them the most money?
Reversing the outsourcing of our government should be very high on the list of the new Democratic President.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:38 amTwo words: Third Party!!!!
Comment by cold_hard_left
You are right CHL, your party definitely needs a third party to make up for the pathetic batch of Presidential contenders you guys have.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:39 amDodd-Wexler ‘08!
Seems like these 2 are the only ones who have had a look at the Bill of Rights.
Comment by normalasf — December 17, 2007 @ 9:35 am
dont forget about Dennis Kucinich…
he had the balls to bring impeachment up but only to have his spineless party to not support it.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:40 amIf you want, head on over to the CSPAN website and vote on whether the Senate should grant retroactive immunity to telecoms. The vote is 76 no to 24 yes right now.
http://www.capitalnews.org/
December 17th, 2007 at 9:40 amWexler is calling for the commencement of impeachment hearings against Vice President Cheney.
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Lemme guess. A vote will be held. After the vote, the matter will be referred to Conyers’ committee, where it will languish with Kucinich’s bill.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:40 amI’m with Dodd!
December 17th, 2007 at 9:41 amRep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI), the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, yesterday promised that he will push forward with “a probe into the destruction of CIA videotapes of detainee interrogations, despite a Justice Department request that congressional inquiries be suspended.â€
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Hoekstra is doing the right thing. Let’s see how far he gets before he is “summoned to the White House.” After a trip to Cheney’s woodshed, he will return to Congress having seen the light, and his probe will mysteriously vanish.
Seen this show before.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:43 amThe Emperor fiddles while Rome burns.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:47 amYou have the ability to make a difference. Pound the phones. Call Clinton and Obama and DEMAND they join Chris Dodd in his Filibuster of the FISA bill. The 4th amendment is at stake.
Let them know that the candidate who steps up and joins the filibuster may win the nomination.
Keep calling:
1-800-828-0498
December 17th, 2007 at 9:49 am1-800-614-2803
My pledge:
Should a majority of Democrats not come to the aid of Senator Dodd in his effort to restore our Constitution, I will throw my full support behind Republican or independent candidates - I will refuse to vote Democrat, no matter the damage done to our nation.
Can I get some courageous people behind me? Will you stand up?
(BTW: I am the most progressive person I know, but I’m not afraid to pour gasoline on the fire, if that’s what it takes.)
December 17th, 2007 at 9:49 amFrench President lands hot model after wife leaves him:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317089,00.html
Her photo is below:
http://imstars.aufeminin.com/ stars/ fan/ D20060919/ 1014_553626655_carla_bruni_6_H200552_L.jpg
December 17th, 2007 at 9:52 amUnfortunately, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are hollow empty shells. They are cowards. They won’t be joining Senator Chris Dodd in his filibuster of the monstrous FISA bill.
Hillary and Barack are too politcally calculating to ever take a real stand.
If the Hillary and Barack supporters take offense at this statement all they must do is call them. Demand they stand shoulder to shoulder with Chris Dodd and join the filibuster. Tell them to fight, dammit, for the 4th amendment!
But I know they won’t call. Because then they’d have to deal with reality. That Hillary and Barack are all talk and no action.
Upset? Prove me wrong. Tell Hillary and Barack to join the Filibuster!
1-800-828-0498
1-800-614-2803
December 17th, 2007 at 9:54 amWow, Jason! This is really helpful information.
You should probably see a doctor about that erection, you’ve had it for way more than 4 hours.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:55 amThis makes what Reid is doing all the more a travesty:
AT&T engineer says Bush Administration sought to implement domestic spying within two weeks of taking office
John Byrne
Published: Sunday December 16, 2007
Nearly 1,300 words into Sunday’s New York Times article revealing new details of the National Security Agency’s domestic eavesdropping program, the lawyer for an AT&T engineer alleges that “within two weeks of taking office, the Bush administration was planning a comprehensive effort of spying on Americans’ phone usage.â€
In a New Jersey federal court case, the engineer claims that AT&T sought to create a phone center that would give the NSA access to “all the global phone and e-mail traffic that ran through” a New Jersey network hub.
The former AT&T employee, who spoke on condition of anonymity to the Times said he took part in several discussions with agency officials about the plan.
“The officials, he said, discussed ways to duplicate the Bedminster system in Maryland so the agency “could listen in†with unfettered access to communications that it believed had intelligence value and store them for later review,” Times reporters Eric Lichtblau, James Risen and Scott Shane wrote. “There was no discussion of limiting the monitoring to international communications, he said.”
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2007/ 12/ 16/ washington/ 16nsa.html?ei=5065&en=03d7b2d9209d9d7d&ex=1198472400&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print
December 17th, 2007 at 9:57 amHey, 2 mil: Get behind my pledge, and then call the cowards.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:57 amFrom what I’ve read, and I’ll search for the links, if retroactive immunity is granted, then the US Government becomes the defendent in these lawsuits and therefore, the defense will be paid by good old John Q. Public. Just one more way to get screwed.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:01 amCan I get some courageous people behind me? Will you stand up?
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — December 17, 2007 @ 9:49 am
Hillary and Barack apparently don’t give a rat’s ass about the 4th amendment or else they’d be with Chris Doddd right now filibustering. How anybody can even consider voting for them after this is beyond comprehension.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:01 amI will refuse to vote Democrat, no matter the damage done to our nation.
Can I get some courageous people behind me? Will you stand up?
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
No, I will do anything I can to encourage the Democrats to do the right thing but in the end I will vote for any Democrat over a Repuliscum. I’m sorry that you think throwing this country down the drain is worth a hissy fit on your part.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:01 amThe posters on this blog are apparently no better than Harry Reid. Anyone here got courage? Integrity?
All type, no action.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:03 am(BTW: I am the most progressive person I know, but I’m not afraid to pour gasoline on the fire, if that’s what it takes.)
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
No real progressive would advocate throwing your country down the drain and that is what you would be doing by voting for a Republiscum. This country can’t withstand another four years of Rebpuliscum rule. And if you think that your hissy fit is going to encourage people to take up arms against their government, think again. A majority of the people in this country are too worried about putting food on their table to be able to take time out to storm the White House.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:04 amThe posters on this blog are apparently no better than Harry Reid. Anyone here got courage? Integrity?
All type, no action.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius
Marcus, why don’t you go throw your hissy fit over at redstate.com. They would love to have you.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:05 amHey, 2 mil: Get behind my pledge, and then call the cowards.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius — December 17, 2007 @ 9:57 am
I’ve already been calling and writing for 48hrs. I’ve called over 20 Senators. I’ve called both Hillary and Barack this morning and I’ll call them again. I’ve told both offices that I’m a Kucinich supporter. However, if either Hillary or Barack were to join the Filibuster, I’d be willing to vote for them. But I need to see ACTION, not words, but ACTION. And I reminded them that there are millions of Independents/Lefites like me who dislike both Hillary and Barack who could be persuaded to vote for them IF they join the filibuster. I don’t give a crap about who some paper in Iowa endorses. If a person who wants to be President isn’t willing to defend the 4th amendment then to hell with them, they’re WORTHLESS.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:07 amThe Democrats are complicit in throwing my country down the drain. Either hold their feet to the fire, or abandon them to their own lack of integrity. Who says we have to choose the lesser of 2 evils?
As far as a hissy fit goes, at least I’m willing to stand up to the Thug-lite Democratic leadership. Bilbo: will you turn and run, or will you stand on principle? It’s time to fight.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:07 amExactly.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:08 amSo, go ahead and be ruled by appeasers and cowards. You think the Dems are going to protect the Constitution? You’re drinking the other flavor of Kool-aid.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:10 amToo funny, listening to the peanut gallery ….
I don’t see any of you running for office, or working a job to make the world a better place. You sit in your mothers’ basements heckling those who do stick their necks out, but you won’t stick out your own.
Heh, you don’t even list your real names.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:12 amNo real progressive would advocate throwing your country down the drain and that is what you would be doing by voting for a Republiscum.
Comment by bilbobaggins — December 17, 2007 @ 10:04 am
What I’m trying to point out here is that a vote for Hillary or Obama is also a vote to throw your country down the drain. Without their help Chris Dodd will ultimately fail in his filibuster. The 4th amendment will be lost. If they can’t interrupt their campaigns to defend the country from a domestic attack, and that’s exactly what’s happening right now, we’re under attack from a domestic enemy, then they’re both garbage.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:16 amManhandler, 54,
December 17th, 2007 at 10:16 amIf we need any shit out of you this morning, we’ll squeeze your head.
Because I’m a Progressive, you dolt. If you think the Dem leadership is Progressive, or that they will govern within the Constitution, you have been fooled. They need to know that the election will not be handed to them by default. If you support Pelosi and Reid, you are a Democrat - not a progressive.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:18 amToo funny, listening to the peanut gallery ….
I don’t see any of you running for office, or working a job to make the world a better place. You sit in your mothers’ basements heckling those who do stick their necks out, but you won’t stick out your own.
Heh, you don’t even list your real names.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 17, 2007 @ 10:12 am
I wish we could be more like you: posting photos of some woman dating the French president. Talk about serious commitment. . .
Wanker.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:20 amTell us more about the President of France…
December 17th, 2007 at 10:21 amJoe LIEberman endorses McCain
17th of December 2007
by Jay Randal
Sen. Joe Lieberman is supposed to publicly endorse Sen. John McCain for the Republican nomination for President and to defeat Sen. Hillary Clinton in election.
At least old traitor Joe is showing his true colors as a turncoat to the Democrats, plus kicking Hillary like he did to her husband Bill, so perhaps he wants to be VP.
A McCain/Lieberman ticket would cause cockroaches to drop dead in disgust, hence it would be partnership of a senile fool and a charlatan, alas GOPer love match.
Geezer McCain the ultra far-right warmonger nut and LIEberman the Trojan-horse Republican agent would make a match/pact made in Hell by the Devil himself.
Cross-dresser Rudy Giuliani might be forced to team-up with flip-flopper Mormon Mitt Romney, thus two weirdo guys together, alas another pact by the Devil.
NOTE: MOVING TO SWEDEN LOOKS VERY INVITING NOW!
(Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Georgia, USA.)
December 17th, 2007 at 10:26 amJason Hendler is a Fascist agitator.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:29 amFrench President lands hot model after wife leaves him:
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 17, 2007 @ 9:52 am
But do they “freedom” kiss or use a “freedom” tickler?
December 17th, 2007 at 10:32 amCome on, Jason, gives the real information.
Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) will reportedly filibuster the bill.
The RIGHT thing to do. Thanks Sen Dodd.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:35 amRUCerious > tell Dodd to slap the snot out of his fellow Senator from CT, Joe Lieberman, or Chris is just a windbag too.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:39 amfrom the article on the 2nd Platoon: They decided as a platoon that they were done, DeNardi and Cardenas said, as did several other members of 2nd Platoon. At mental health, guys had told the therapist, “I’m going to murder someone.†And the therapist said, “There comes a time when you have to stand up,â€
Good for them.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:44 amJay, I’d like to tell him to do that, but would, in fact, much prefer to do it myself.
BTW, I realize the Democratic Senate leaders are a bunch of corporate whores, but they are just a little bit more honest about giving tooth mark skull than the Repukes, so I’ll not be voting Repukelickin to spite the spineless Dems.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:49 amPentagon officials are pressuring President Bush to “accelerate a troop drawdown in Iraq and bulk up force levels in Afghanistan. … Senior administration officials now believe Afghanistan may pose a greater longer-term challenge than Iraq.â€
WTF? Can’t they even spell
O - I - L !
December 17th, 2007 at 10:58 amOh, so the Saudi King realized too much attention was being paid to his oppressive regime, so he pardoned the girl, and basically told Americans there is nothing else to see here.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:07 amMarcus said:
Marcus, while your fire is understandable, the position you’ve taken and demanded everyone else support is absurd - hence the chirping crickets.
Attacking people on your own side for not being in lockstep with your reactionary tantrum is not useful toward your stated goals at all.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:10 amFeingold on the floor now. He is exposing this BIG TIME! GO RUSS!!
December 17th, 2007 at 11:55 amTantrum? Show me my “tantrum”.
You comments sound as if you believe the Dem leadership is on our side - show me some evidence of this.
I’ll tell you who’s not on my (and by “my”, I mean “our”) side: The Neocons, the Republicans, and The Democrat leadership. Vote for them at your own peril.
The time has come to either withdraw support for the status quo or to destroy it from within. Mark my words: either the Dems feet are held to the fire, or we elect the new boss, who is the same as the old boss (except they don’t have the courage to abandon the sheep’s clothing). These guys make Lieberman look honest.
If you think the Dem leadership is committed to the Progressive agenda, as I said: you’re drinking Kool-aid light.
Does the Democratic leadership reflect your politics? I doubt it. Have they listened to their base? No.
So go ahead and vote for them. Reward cowardice.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:57 amAgreed. Too bad he’s not in a leadership position.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:57 am“Saudi King Abdullah has pardoned a teenage gang-rape victim who…”
Wow, a head-chopper King with more compassion than our own Cheerleader Prince. Whoulda thunk it?
December 17th, 2007 at 12:00 pmPresident Bush has “a regular posse of eight to 10 cyclistsâ€
WHICH HE INSISTS ON LEADING….until he gets tired. None of the other cyclists dare pass the Chimp on a bike until he says it’s okay, and then
“faster riders will zoom to the front.”
How megalomaniacal is THAT?
December 17th, 2007 at 12:11 pm“Too funny, listening to the peanut gallery ….”
-jmh
HENDLER - My name is Tom Baker, and what I see you doing is acting like a pesky 8-year-old who thinks he’s discovered humor.
You must’ve missed my congratualtory post yesterday, where I let you, and some of the anonymously-named people from “your side” how much their vocabulary and usage had improved during the time you’ve been regulars here. Do stick around, there’s so much more you can learn here.
December 17th, 2007 at 12:15 pmMarcus - what are we to do? Draft Nader? As disappointing as the Dems may sometimes be, I don’t really think you’d rather we leave it in the hands of the R’s.
December 17th, 2007 at 12:17 pmBunch of Aye sayers on The Hill!! Crap!!
December 17th, 2007 at 12:27 pmWe are to take their power away. This band of cowards do not represent me or the Progressive movement. They are not Progressives, they are wolves in sheep’s clothing. The Dem leadership is who would rather leave it in the hands of the Rs. isn’t that what we’re witnessing?
December 17th, 2007 at 12:31 pmWow, so only Boxer and Feingold have voted NO thus far? Pathetic!!
December 17th, 2007 at 12:35 pmOne step at a time, I guess, Marcus. There has to be a plan to get from A to B, as much as I would personally prefer an Orange Revolution of our very own. With a Pres. and a safe majority in Congress, we’ll have the elbow room to shake off the capitulatory D’s, replace them with better ones, and get with the really important program of setting the SCOTUS back in balance.
December 17th, 2007 at 12:39 pmSo, anybody else have any suggestions as to how we rid ourselves of these fleas?
Like the fellow at the Global Warming Conference said last week: If you’re not going to lead, get out of the way.
Threaten to vote (R), and if we get no response, do it.
December 17th, 2007 at 12:39 pmHeh, you don’t even list your real names.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 17, 2007 @ 10:12 am
If it weren’t for creeps like you, we could use our real names.
December 17th, 2007 at 1:02 pmI have been thinking of voting for Chris Dodd. Now, I am sure! We do have a choice besides Hillary and Obama. If we all cast a vote for someone other than what the MSM is ramming down our throats, not only will politicians get the message, but the idiotic MSM punditry as well. Vote for Dodd, Kucinich and Biden. Forget the rest!
December 17th, 2007 at 1:28 pmWexler’s Impeachment “Petition?â€â€¦
can’t see the signatures…
links to contribute page…
signs you up to help with his campaign for re-election…
link to contribute side by side with the “petitionâ€â€¦
…and Wexler is not a co-sponsor of HR 333…
hmmmm, makes you think, huh?
Wexler’s Impeachment “Petition?â€: Ok… I signed… Now What?
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/ 2007/ 12/ 19/ wexlers-impeachment-petition-ok-i-signed-now-what/
December 19th, 2007 at 1:19 pm