Comment by Exley
YOUR GHOSTS, THE ONE THAT ATTACKED THE US ON 9/11 ARE DESTROYING EVIDENCE, DELAYING OR BLOCKING INVESTIGATION, OUTING CIA AGENTS, AND LYING. THEY ARE SITTING IN THE OVAL OFFICE!

Comment by Kilo — December 19, 2007 @ 8:26 am

pot, meet kettle. Aren’t you just ridiculous.

Bin Lauden and Al Qaeda was behind the Cole bombing as well as the Embassy Bombings.
Even if he didn’t do 9/11 as the “9/11truth” guys claim, he still needs taken down or taken alive and tried.

That is a maddog we helped create when we trained them in guerrilla warfare (CIA and Mercs working for US Gov contract), improvised explosives then supplied them with weapons, explosives and ammunition to fight the Russians.

Viet Nam Veteran Colonel Robert K Brown, Special Forces (retired) was one of the front men, getting donations from Right Wing groups to fund Nicaraguan Contras and the Afghan Mujahideen, on record for the fund raising was for “non-lethal” aid. Yeah, right….
Brown’s operations included training Mujahideen guerrillas in Afghanistan in the 1980s. He hired the someof the mercs.
It was a Reagan backed initiative totally.

We set it loose and “it bit the hand” like every other time the US has meddled like that.

We need to take Al Qaeda down, because its a monster we helped create. IMHO.

But that could have been done with international police efforts and well planned strikes with special forces, while finishing finding Bin Lauden in Afghanistan. That was before Bush totally fscked everything up. Iraq accomplished nothing more than become a recruiting commercial for AlQaeda.

Dropping Willy Pete on civilians and melting the skin off babies.does not endear a civilian population under occupation.
Neither does torture like what happened in Abu-Grabass.

Personally, if that sh!t ever happened here with a foreign force occupying the US?
I would be cleaning the carbon from my rifle barrel every night.

Bush has totally fscked up everything. This is a mess that may never ever go away. And it is because of meddling where we shouldn’t, an ill planned war for the gain of Corporations ( Big Oil, Halliburton, etc) and stuffing the wallets of crooked politicians.

Comment by Exley — December 19, 2007 @ 1:27 am”

What are you talking about Exley? You know Iraq was a huge f-up that was uneccessary and Afghanistan was just an excuse (it isn’t like the righty bastards have actually supported THAT war sufficiently).

Exley won’t debate outside his pre-conceived talking points.

He will post his drivel about military ops and never really debate someone with military experience.

exlax,

“quitters never win, and winners never quit”

- dick cheney

Comment by Exley — December 19, 2007 @ 1:27 am

“success”? oh yes, that’s why the candidates can’t stop talking about bush during the debates. they strive to be identified with bush.

exlax, really. next you’ll be saying smoking cigarettes is good for your health…

As I Exley. GN

Ah, I get it now.

Thanks.

“Sometimes large scale military operations will be required to win the war on Al Qaeda (e.g, Iraq and Afghanistan) —sometimes smaller, more limited operations will suffice. As we have seen since 9/11, the administration has successfully employed both where necessary.”

Comment by Exley

Problem with that is the “large scale military operations” eat into the resources needed for the limited operations.

That’s what happened in Afghanistan in 2002-03. The Iraq invasion buildup took away assets such as intel gathering, surveillance systems, priority for NRO and DARO information, and the personnel trained for the operations that were underway.

And now US commanders in Afghanistan are wanting to redeploy forces from Iraq to that country, with the administration balking.

Whack-a-Mole

No name-calling on my part, Xisithrus. I enjoyed our discussion. It is, however, late here on the East Coast and it is time to turn in. I am sure this will be picked up again tomorrow — especially when TP reports the news of the Senate’s vote to approve the funding for the military actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Have a good evening.

Comment by Exley — December 19, 2007 @ 1:27 am

Seriously, if you wingnuts keep pulling this al Qaeda-Iraq BS you can dig your way to China. Jacka$$es.

I missed the “/sarc off” tag in my previous comment…

Comment by Exley — December 19, 2007 @ 1:36 am

Give me a fscking break.

Remember Afghanistan, Einstein?

Afghanistan Opium Crop Sets Record

If is isn’t Bush raking in the profits, it’s Al Qaeda……

What diplomacy?

And the strategy is working oh so well in Afghanistan where the Taliban is not in control of about half of the country and where the poppy crop is not at an all time high (no pun intended) making Afghanistan the world’s largest supplier.

Yeah, starved of funding indeed…

Afghanistan was beginning to be a progressive country in the late 70’s.