Fox analyst: Lieberman’s endorsement is MoveOn’s fault.
By on Dec 18th, 2007 at 9:45 am
Fox analyst: Lieberman’s endorsement is MoveOn’s fault.
Fox political analyst Bob Beckel mourned last night that Sen. Joe Lieberman’s endorsement of John McCain is “the price…us Democrats pay for MoveOn.org and others who drove Joe Lieberman out of the party,” said Beckel. “They campaigned against him actively and raised money against him and he was beaten in the Democratic primary. … Now we’re paying the price and all I can say is ‘a pox on their house.’”
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Gawd… what drivel. The nerve of these cretinous windbags to keep telling us people are wrong for questioning their elected officials and daring to get involved int the electoral process.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:48 amBeckel is a Media Whore. If he was paid by someone other than Fox, he’d say whatever would make his new pimps happy.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:51 am(sigh)
December 18th, 2007 at 9:51 amAnother tool for Rupert…
Shoot.
The.
Messenger.
Simply put, the right has no other tactic than Blame Americans First. If you question authority, you are the problem… Heaven forbid those who are in charge be held accountable for their statements and actions.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:52 amWhat price is that again? Is McCain going to win the GOP primary or something?
December 18th, 2007 at 9:52 amThey campaigned against him actively and raised money against him and he was beaten in the Democratic primary. … Now we’re paying the price and all I can say is ‘a pox on their house.’
And I say a pox on fox.
Fox deliberately still notes Ly’n Joe as a (D). Fox YOU!
Ly’n Joe lost the primary due to people’s opinion, even though the RNC actively funded him while ignoring the Repuke candidate.
And who the hell is Bob Beckel? Regardless, ‘Bob’, don’t speak for those of us who know the truth about Joe. He’s pondscum, an asslicker, a turncoat and ugly, to boot.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:53 amBob Beckel is another tired political hack who too many democrats listened to in the past to their (and our) detriment. He should just go away and take Bob Shrum and the other useless beltway hacks with him.
As for “Honest Joe,” Joe Lieberman is a vile person and the party is better off without him, why Ried doesn’t immediately strip him of his seniority is beyond me. I can’t wait until January 2009 when the democrats will have a solid majority and they can kick that sniveling “independent democrat” to the curb.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:53 amjew LIEberman the good senator from israel is nothing more than a core GOP’er in dems clothes….
December 18th, 2007 at 9:53 amConsidering this crap was regurgitated on Fixed Noise…they dug with both hands & couldn’t come up with anything bettern’ that?
Lame.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:53 amSo Joe LIsraeleberman hitches his pathetic, attention seeking pony to McCraneFly’s tottering campaign, and this is somehow MoveOn”s fault?
December 18th, 2007 at 9:55 amBWAHAHAHAHAHAH! Foch Snooze, always wrong and proud of it!
Lieberman drove himself out of the Democratic party, in a limousine.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:55 amWe are stuck with Lieberman until 2012, yes?
Oy. My head hurts.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:56 amLieberwurst is on his way out the door. His endorsement of McCain is his way of grabbing the door frame in the vain hope that he can remain relevant.
Beckel probably did get this one right. MoveOn.org likely did have a lot to do with Lieberwurst’s endorsement of McCain. Contrary to what Beckel may believe, however, it’s a good thing. I think we may have just killed two birds with the same stone.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:00 amNow we’re paying the price and all I can say is ‘a pox on their house.’â€
Like we care. Lieberman’s endorsement of McCain was undoubtedly based on Lieberman being his VP pick if, by some miracle, McCain ends up winning the nomination. I would be happy to see the Democratic party kick Lieberman to the curb and take away any leadership post he has. Send him to the Republiscums. He will then be irrelevant because the Republiscums don’t really want him either.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:00 amWhenever I see McCain or Lieberman talk, I am astonished at how lifeless and enervated they appear. Why would anyone vote for either of them? They appear to be made out of wax at this point.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:02 amThen we can replace the useless “Majority Leader†and actually get some work done.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 18, 2007 @ 10:02 am
He’s already effectively done that, stupid. Try making a real point.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:04 amPox? Lieberman is Pox worthy? He might be indigestion worthy but not Pox.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:04 amLieberman should switch parties and put the Senate at 50-50 with the VP holding the tie-breaker. Then we can replace the useless “Majority Leader†and actually get some work done.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 18, 2007 @ 10:02 am
jew LIE-berman switched parties a LONG time ago… lets see what the good senator from israel will do now.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:05 amI’m sure CHL had the same view of the Majority leader when his party was in the majority. I’m sure.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:06 am“Then we can replace the useless “Majority Leader†and actually get some work done.”
Comment by cold_hard_left —
Like the dizzying array of legislation passed during the 109th?
Please.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:09 amCrying like Boner. heh
December 18th, 2007 at 10:10 amLieberman isn’t exactly much of a loss. The guy made a habit of stabbing the Democratic party in the back long before he lost that primary.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:10 amSorry, but one comment isn’t all of us, CHL. Nice try though.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:10 amLIEberman & Sphinctor both talk a good game but fold like a bad poker hand when confronted by Bush.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:12 amBeckel is a worthless tool.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:12 amSure, Lieberman was forced(?) to abandon his party — sure. I think Flip Wilson’s old Geraldine persona could have spoken for Lieberman when he/she said “the devil made me do it.”
Lieberman is finished as a politician - he will not get re-elected in Connecticut. Listening to that whining fool defend his endorsement of McCain should close the door on his future aspirations.
Thank you once again Fan of Man for proving that “Progressives†are anti-Jew bigots.
Comment by cold_hard_left
And thanks for broadbrushing all liberals with the comments of one. It shows how desperate you are.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:14 amBeckel is making an assumption (or trying very hard to make an implication) that Lieberman’s endorsement of McCain is somehow a disaster for the Democrats.
It isn’t. Lieberman stopped being of any consequence to the Dems quite some time ago. We all know he’s basically a Republican.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:15 amThank you once again Fan of Man for proving that “Progressives†are anti-Jew bigots.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 18, 2007 @ 10:07 am
you are welcome, i’m an equal opportunity hater, as in I hate almost everyone….
i’m glad you think we should put israels priorities first over America’s…
when you gonna enlist?
December 18th, 2007 at 10:15 am#16, CHL, you seem to not understand how the Senate works. No surprise there.
Lieberman’s voting pattern on specific legislation is not likely to change if he switches caucuses. So the outcome of individual votes wouldn’t shift.
But whether he leaves or stays, the Dems will continue hold the majority positions - including committee assignments and chairs. Any change in control of the Senate would require a new organizing resolution - and any attempt to introduce a new organizing resolution by the now 50 + Cheney Republicans would be easily filibustered by the Democrats.
What I’m not certain about is if Lieberman could be booted from his Homeland Security Committee chairmanship without a new organizing resolution.
Oh, and as to your #21 screed: hating Israel’s government and policies (and loathing Americans with divided loyalties to Israel’s political class) is and never will be anti-Semitism, but thanks for playing.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:15 amThen we can replace the useless “Majority Leader†and actually get some work done.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 18, 2007 @ 10:02 am
Oh, I think that chl is disappointed the his party of treason didn’t get to completely destroy the country before real Americans wised up. chl better get used to being on the outside for the next 50 years.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:15 amIt’s MoveOn’s fault that McCain caught the LIEberman pox?
December 18th, 2007 at 10:19 amIt’s MoveOn’s fault that McCain caught the LIEberman pox?
Comment by kdoug — December 18, 2007 @ 10:19 am
that is some hilarious shit, where do they find these people?
December 18th, 2007 at 10:19 amThis was not unexpected. Any Dem would have been terrified to even think Joe would announce support for them. I agree with those that want him stripped of all leadership positions and not allow him to caucus with the Dems.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:20 amhas LIEberman been stripped of his “leadership” committee roles?
that’s all that matters now…
December 18th, 2007 at 10:22 amLieberman’s endorsement of McCain is simply going to point up how little influence Joe has with anybody. McCain’s campaign is just about over, and Joe’s endorsement is not going to halt the downward slide.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:22 amIt’s so bad a move politically it has to be sincere.
Joe not only deserted his party, he did it to back a loser.
Anybody see Christiana Amanpour’s documentary on Holy Warriors? No big surprise about the love shared between McCain and Lieberman. The Christian Apocolyptic Zionists have been whispering in McCains ear for some time now. I’ve noticed a marked change in his rhetoric over the last few years. Coupled with Lieberman’s zeal for Israel (not the people of Israel so much as the support of zionist spies and lobbying influence here in the US). They make a great team…for for fascists, neocons, second coming fanatics and the State of Israel. America, not so much.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:24 amGlobal Terrorism = Religious Extremists
Christian, Muslim or Jew, these people’s ‘GOD’ triggers war, rape, famine, death and dismemberment.
1 Planet
December 18th, 2007 at 10:31 am1 People
1 Chance
I wish God would rapture His followers up to Heaven right this minute - and leave the rest of us alone.
I’m so sick of these people!!!!
December 18th, 2007 at 10:33 am“Fox analyst: Lieberman’s endorsement is MoveOn’s fault”
Lieberman endorsing anyone is the long slow cold kiss of death. Don’t blame us for Mcain’s problems.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:35 amBeckel neglected to add that most liberal blogs are anti-semitic, so it goes beyond merely campaigning against Lieberman.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:38 amComment by Jason M. Hendler — December 18, 2007 @ 10:38 am
jas, you’re not still mad at me, are you?
December 18th, 2007 at 10:41 amJason, idiotboy, not liking the way Israel has become a bastion of warmongering neocons does NOT equal “anti-semitism.”
Grow up. Think for yourself, idiot.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:42 amGrow up. Think for yourself, idiot.
Comment by Leftside Annie — December 18, 2007 @ 10:42 am
now jas that’s not a bad idea… give it a try cowboy!
December 18th, 2007 at 10:46 amDid Manhandler just admit to being anti-semetic?
I mean, he hangs here, so he must be…
December 18th, 2007 at 10:50 amComment by cold_hard_left — December 18, 2007 @ 10:09 am
re: the “ted stevens, ear mark” posting, no comments from you?
chl don’t be a chicken. remember what dick cheney once said,
“winners never quit and quitters never win.”
eh?
December 18th, 2007 at 10:50 amjas?
jas???
December 18th, 2007 at 10:50 am#40 I think it is a little more complicated…
Yes, religious extremists are potentially dangerous (because they don’t think and operate from belief instead)
…see new article in Annals of Nerulogy by Sam Harris
But those who manipulate the religionists aree even more dangerous. Whether they be a political person or movement or devotees of the Chicago School of Economics Friedman Shock Doctrine.
They use the non thinking religious extremists to do their bidding….by waving the religion red flag in front of them….
It is akin to what some corporate inspired talking heads on Faux news do (so I read on TP). All that blather about war on this or that…trying to stir the religionists to fervor. I don’t watch them myself.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:51 amSen. Joe Lieberman’s endorsement of John McCain is “the price…us Democrats pay for MoveOn.org and others who drove Joe Lieberman out of the party,†said Beckel.
Whew. That was close. For a second there, I thought he might put some repsonsiblity on, y’know, Joe Lieberman.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:52 amThanks again, CHL, for proving that all conservatives are weaselly, ignorant trolls.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:54 amThe reason why Dems turned their back on LIEberman is because of LIEberman.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:57 amjason M Halfwit has cut and run, again.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:58 amBeckel neglected to add that most liberal blogs are anti-semitic
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 18, 2007 @ 10:38 am
Please provide proof of such
December 18th, 2007 at 11:00 ameckel neglected to add that most liberal blogs are anti-semitic
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 18, 2007 @ 10:38 am
Are you referring to this?
http://www.usnews.com/ usnews/ news/ articles/ 050712/ 12natsec.htm
I think you may be a bit confused on who the anti-semites are. Of course, it’s only sixty incidents so maybe it’s a fluke…
December 18th, 2007 at 11:04 amLook what Ralph discovered:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
cold_flaccid_right IS Jason M. Hendler. Judge for yourself:
For those of you who missed it, here is Barack Obama drop kicking Hill’reh in the last debate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhPxSm9Es0w
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 15, 2007 @ 11:12 am
————————————
Perhaps they should follow Hill’reh’s example wherein she fired a staff member that made mention of Obama’s admitted, repeated abuse of cocain.
Comment by cold_hard_left — December 17, 2007 @ 2:08 pm
“Two posts, two days apart, both wildly off-topic, almost identical in their non-sequiter nature in the run of discussion, both focusing on the Clinton-Obama matchup, and both use the same idiosyncratic bastardization of Senator Clinton’s name.”
December 18th, 2007 at 11:10 amPlease no anti-Semtism.
Bob Schmeckle is a hack.
-GSD
The 50/50 split is in THE SENATE. The HOUSE is lead by the Speaker.
December 18th, 2007 at 11:13 am#56, no the VP (as President of the Senate) breaks the 50/50 split. But as I said above, that’s on inidvidual votes. Changing control requires a new organizing resolution, and - like everything else in the Senate - can be filibustered.
People may be remembering the automatic change of control when Jeffords left the Repub caucus - but that only happened because the organizing resolution allowed for that. The Senate convened in ‘01 with a 50-50 split, but Gore was still VP, since Cheney hadn’t been inaugurated yet. So the organizing resolution, anticipating that the swing vote (the VP) would switch hands in a week or so, made a change in control automatic. When Jeffords switched somewhat later, that provision was still in place, so the Senate switched back.
The current organizing resolution contains no such provision. So should Lieberman choose to caucus with the Repubs, the Dems would still retain control of the now ill-named Majority positions unless Republicans could ram through a new organizing resolution despite an almost certain Democratic filibuster.
December 18th, 2007 at 11:15 amre 59:
Regardless of his puppetry, FofM is a racist who should be ignored or flagged. He adds nothing to any debate. If I had to venture a guess, he’s a pretend progressive persona who posts anti-semitic comments so moronconservative trolls will have something to talk about.
December 18th, 2007 at 11:15 amIt is about Lieberman’s ego….He said “McCain is the only one who asked me …”,
and what price, if any, is paid or going to be paid by such endorsement..?!!
none…
Lieberman (I) endorsement will have no effect on any win/lose tabulation.
December 18th, 2007 at 11:17 amIf McCain thinks that this endorsement by Lieberman is going to give him the winning ticket..then he is the biggest dreamer of all time campaigners…
Comment by justasking — December 18, 2007 @ 11:13 am
It was Ralph’s doing. I was just forwarding the message.
December 18th, 2007 at 11:20 amLieberman admitted that McCain ASKED him for his endorsement. It’s not like his endorsement of any DEM would help their campaigns. Plus, how is Joe’s “popularity” swaying ANYONE yet alone those independents that purportedly this endorsement targets?
Just another of Joe’s attempts at being significant. As many have pointed out, Joe’s positions have been counter to the DEM party for a few years already, especially with regard to Iraq. He only changed his tune on that issue (“”No one wants to end the war in Iraq more than I do,” said Lieberman Oct 23, 2006) late in the election cycle. Only to change his position back to support Bush’s open ended occupation after he won with Republican support, including $$$ and the ignoring of the chosen R candidate by the national GOP. Of course, righteous Joe claims the high ground on his own “principlesâ€, when in fact, he LIED to his CT constituents in order to self preserve in the Senate race.
December 18th, 2007 at 11:48 amLieberman is the archetype of a “good man” dragged down by his own ego–more important than the people and principles which he originally set out to serve.
December 18th, 2007 at 11:50 amPersonally, I’d rather have a pox in my house than Holy Joe. Good riddance.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:00 pmWhew! I feel much better.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:04 pmHere’s to giving MoveOn lots more power. Thanks.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:19 pmLieberman was a pain in the ass to the progressives in the Democratic party LONG before MoveOn got around to mounting an offensive against him. And it never “drove him out of the party.” He was a traitor to the Democratic party and to the Democratic electorate. The rethugs can have this sorry sack of excrement. They deserve him.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:26 pmThanks Moveon.org!
December 18th, 2007 at 12:32 pmPerhaps I need to be a little more nuanced in my statements:
dailKos, myDD and TP have many liberal posters who are anti-semetic, anti-Zionist or both. That is why the percentage of Jews who voted for Republicans has increased to 25% in 2006, and will be much higher in the next election.
Keep up the good work. Oh, if you don’t believe me, just ask Harold Ford, who called that pussy Kos out on the topic in a debate, and Kos could only state that he can’t control what others post on his blog.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:52 pmJust leave, Beckel. Now! We don’t want you and we don’t need you. Maybe if you’re lucky, Lieberman will hire you as a speechwriter in his run for Veep as the Republican he is.
Cheers,
December 18th, 2007 at 12:59 pmBack at you buddy and don’t let the door hit you on the way out . Joe Lieberman has divided loyalties . He isn’t sure which party OR country he serves .
December 18th, 2007 at 1:30 pmIs the price we paid losing Lying Lieberman?
Fu*k Joe Lieberman and John McCain.
The two flip floppingist, spineless pin heads in politics.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:34 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler — December 18, 2007 @ 12:52 pm
Fu*k and the horse you came out of.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:34 pmBob Beckel seems to have a fundamental misunderstanding about what democracy is. Lieberman didn’t get driven out of the party by Move On. He got driven out by voters who chose to nominate someone else.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:47 pmIsrael is poorly served through neoconservatism as are American interests. Support of Israel is not tacit support of military solutions to age old problems . Love conquers hate , missiles planted in the battle field will grow enemies and hatred and the world is too small for such solutions and life too precious .
December 18th, 2007 at 1:51 pmTribalism whether American ot Israeli is not an affirmation of America’s most sacred ideal , that behind differing customs , languages and religions we are all more or less the same and can live in peace together , to our mutual benefit .
New york ’s multi culturalism is the home of the united nations as this country is a melting pot for all peoples who seek freedom and human dignity on this our small earth which it will be remembered for long after 911.We owe our allegiance to Israel AND Palestine . The Iraqi’s who have suffered in this debacle are our brothers and sisters as well .
Let joe lieberman bang the war drums for neoconservativism without the support of the democratic party . Why does he have a chair persons position in the US senate at all ?
Homeland insecurity ?
December 18th, 2007 at 1:55 pmANOTHER reason to contribute heavily to MoveOn.Org. I hope the MSM finally stops referring to Lieberman as a Democrat, and holding him out to be some kind of maverick because he disagrees with everything Democrats traditionally stood for.
Now, if only we and MoveOn.Org can get the rest of the DINOs out of the party, we might see some real opposition to the bush cabal…
December 18th, 2007 at 2:30 pmWhy does JackAss Moron Hitler continue to blog here? He’s been busted so many times and just keeps showing off his stupidity and racism! I just don’t get it.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:37 pmWhen will man finally rise above the nation state and tribalism and embrace compassion ? When will leaders finally abandon their sad political calculations and place beauty above money, for the benefit of our citizenry and humanity ?
December 18th, 2007 at 3:56 pmMust we repeat endlessly, the same failed strategies of ethnic hatred and nationalism , war and conquest .
America is living proof that we are all part of the same human family . Thats our real national history and the hope of the world .
Love one another before it’s too late.
Hear that train ?
December 18th, 2007 at 4:11 pmTats the train of freedom .
I know it’s not good form to call someone Hitleresse or Third Reich or even Benito like. But this Faux thing constantly is much like what happened earlier in the 20s and 30s of the last century.
Besides not working with Faux, not shopping their advertisors, what else can be done.
I don’t want to kick my dog anymore!
December 19th, 2007 at 11:40 am