Comments on: Rep. Poe: At Least 3 Other Women Were Sexually Assaulted While Working For KBR In Iraq http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:24:38 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-2/#comment-4199925 Lora Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:11:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199925 And here I thought Progressives cared about the rights of the accused. Silly me. Comment by good_golly — December 19, 2007 @ 5:59 pm Thanks for admitting that you are "silly." Have the accused been deprived of any rights so far? And here I thought Progressives cared about the rights of the accused. Silly me.
Comment by good_golly — December 19, 2007 @ 5:59 pm

Thanks for admitting that you are “silly.” Have the accused been deprived of any rights so far?

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-2/#comment-4199883 Lora Thu, 20 Dec 2007 05:57:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199883 Comment by Gregor Samsa — December 20, 2007 @ 12:11 am Right. But our newest troll obviously doesn't see the difference. Comment by Gregor Samsa — December 20, 2007 @ 12:11 am

Right. But our newest troll obviously doesn’t see the difference.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-2/#comment-4199853 Gregor Samsa Thu, 20 Dec 2007 05:11:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199853 <i>Comment by Lora — December 20, 2007 @ 12:09 am</i> Accuser who happened to change her story from the very beginning. That is not the case this time. Comment by Lora — December 20, 2007 @ 12:09 am

Accuser who happened to change her story from the very beginning. That is not the case this time.

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-2/#comment-4199850 Lora Thu, 20 Dec 2007 05:09:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199850 What did they do send the Duke Lacrosse team in? Anytime you call for a witch hunt, more alleged victims are bound to surface. Comment by good_golly — December 19, 2007 @ 3:44 pm If my memory is correct (and it usually is), no other alleged victims emerged out of the Duke Lacrosse team case--just the original accuser. What did they do send the Duke Lacrosse team in? Anytime you call for a witch hunt, more alleged victims are bound to surface.
Comment by good_golly — December 19, 2007 @ 3:44 pm

If my memory is correct (and it usually is), no other alleged victims emerged out of the Duke Lacrosse team case–just the original accuser.

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-2/#comment-4199828 MapleStreet Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:20:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199828 #22 Joe Cantwell said "i don’t suppose any of you liberals have ever heard of the concept of “innocent until proven guilty”, now have you?" Of course, Joe, you're making the case against waterboarding, extraordinary rendition, lack of Habeus, etc. #22 Joe Cantwell said “i don’t suppose any of you liberals have ever heard of the concept of “innocent until proven guilty”, now have you?”

Of course, Joe, you’re making the case against waterboarding, extraordinary rendition, lack of Habeus, etc.

]]> By: OptimisticMF http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-2/#comment-4199781 OptimisticMF Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:36:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199781 The problem, miss molly, is that the accused here don't have to stand trial. I feel bad for the victims here, hopefully their cases will spur a wider investigation and perhaps some good will come out of this. The problem, miss molly, is that the accused here don’t have to stand trial. I feel bad for the victims here, hopefully their cases will spur a wider investigation and perhaps some good will come out of this.

]]> By: jb http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-2/#comment-4199714 jb Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:11:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199714 No US Government money for KBR ever again. No US Government money for KBR ever again.

]]> By: ucsbclassics53 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-2/#comment-4199633 ucsbclassics53 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:49:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199633 Funny, it seems that wingnuts only care about the rights of the accused when it comes to contractors and this administration... Funny, it seems that wingnuts only care about the rights of the accused when it comes to contractors and this administration…

]]> By: Saint Augustine http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-2/#comment-4199468 Saint Augustine Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:35:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199468 Afraid they'll uncover your coven? Afraid they’ll uncover your coven?

]]> By: Saint Augustine http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-2/#comment-4199462 Saint Augustine Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:33:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199462 What's the fear about a witch hunt, good golly? Afraid they'' uncover your coven? Look to the stars and watch your's fall! What’s the fear about a witch hunt, good golly? Afraid they” uncover your coven? Look to the stars and watch your’s fall!

]]> By: Jeremy in Denver http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-2/#comment-4199392 Jeremy in Denver Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:08:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199392 This is what really burns me up about today's society. Haliburton, like many big corporations, has you over a barrel with their 'mandatory arbitration'. Arbitration is fine and all, but mandatory arbitration is a miscarriage of justice. If the woman is making a false accusation, then have her put that through to the courts. If she can't prove her accusation, then the accused will be found not guilty. Easy enough. But the problem is that KBR has a requirement for arbitration with no chance of appeal. When you are denied access to the court system, justice by definition cannot be served. This not only affects employees of companies that use this but even consumers, and is a big issue amongst consumer oriented groups. Let's hope this gets fixed right. This is what really burns me up about today’s society. Haliburton, like many big corporations, has you over a barrel with their ‘mandatory arbitration’. Arbitration is fine and all, but mandatory arbitration is a miscarriage of justice.

If the woman is making a false accusation, then have her put that through to the courts. If she can’t prove her accusation, then the accused will be found not guilty. Easy enough. But the problem is that KBR has a requirement for arbitration with no chance of appeal. When you are denied access to the court system, justice by definition cannot be served. This not only affects employees of companies that use this but even consumers, and is a big issue amongst consumer oriented groups.

Let’s hope this gets fixed right.

]]> By: Doc Rock http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-2/#comment-4199330 Doc Rock Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:40:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199330 I want to see Bush address this issue. Is anyone in the media capable of bringing it up? This is a situation entirely of this administration crafting. Jackals! I want to see Bush address this issue. Is anyone in the media capable of bringing it up? This is a situation entirely of this administration crafting. Jackals!

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-2/#comment-4199302 Leftside Annie Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:30:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199302 Eh. This is just the extreme Christofascist right's twisted and ugly way of forcing women out of the workforce and back into the kitchen. That and demanding that abortion be outlawed. Who needs burqas when you've got Mittens and Mike Schmuckabible...? Eh. This is just the extreme Christofascist right’s twisted and ugly way of forcing women out of the workforce and back into the kitchen. That and demanding that abortion be outlawed.

Who needs burqas when you’ve got Mittens and Mike Schmuckabible…?

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-2/#comment-4199266 bilbobaggins Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:15:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199266 <em>If the accusations are true then the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted. Comment by Charles James Napier</em> Would you care to enlighten us as to how this will happen? It appears that the contractors in Iraq have been told that they can rape, pillage and kill with no repercussions. This rape happened two years ago and there has been no investigation at all. So, since you think you are so brilliant, please tell us how these men can be tried for this "alleged" crime. If the accusations are true then the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.
Comment by Charles James Napier

Would you care to enlighten us as to how this will happen? It appears that the contractors in Iraq have been told that they can rape, pillage and kill with no repercussions. This rape happened two years ago and there has been no investigation at all. So, since you think you are so brilliant, please tell us how these men can be tried for this “alleged” crime.

]]> By: Citizen_of_Earth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-2/#comment-4199260 Citizen_of_Earth Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:13:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199260 <em>An American business would never hide a criminal act. Perish the thought. Comment by Marcus Aurelius</em> <strong>Ever hear of Enron or WorldCom? </strong> An American business would never hide a criminal act. Perish the thought.
Comment by Marcus Aurelius

Ever hear of Enron or WorldCom?

]]> By: ucsbclassics53 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-2/#comment-4199259 ucsbclassics53 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:12:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199259 HELL yeah! What other school would toss the goal over the cliff after winning the national title? Classics/History '05. HELL yeah! What other school would toss the goal over the cliff after winning the national title?

Classics/History ‘05.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-1/#comment-4199257 bilbobaggins Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:12:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199257 <em>31. 22. So what you are saying is “guilty until proven innocent?” Comment by good_golly</em> Are you stupid or what. How are they going to be proven guilty? The issue isn't guilt or innocence, the issue is the fact that her alleged rape was never investigated. Also, you have been asked before so I'll ask again. If no rape occurred, then why did the rape kit given to KBR disappear and why was this woman locked in a shipping container? 31. 22. So what you are saying is “guilty until proven innocent?”
Comment by good_golly

Are you stupid or what. How are they going to be proven guilty? The issue isn’t guilt or innocence, the issue is the fact that her alleged rape was never investigated.

Also, you have been asked before so I’ll ask again. If no rape occurred, then why did the rape kit given to KBR disappear and why was this woman locked in a shipping container?

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-1/#comment-4199253 bilbobaggins Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:09:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199253 <em>What we cannot have is a witch hunt. Comment by good_golly</em> CHL - what we cannot have here is justice. There will be no prosecution of anyone, so all we will get is the frustration of knowing that these contractors are free to rape and pillage with no repercussions. In this new incarnation, you seem to be trying to show us a more reasonable face. So, I'll ask you this. Don't you see something wrong with allowing these contractors to be immune from prosecution from anything they do? What we cannot have is a witch hunt.
Comment by good_golly

CHL – what we cannot have here is justice. There will be no prosecution of anyone, so all we will get is the frustration of knowing that these contractors are free to rape and pillage with no repercussions.

In this new incarnation, you seem to be trying to show us a more reasonable face. So, I’ll ask you this. Don’t you see something wrong with allowing these contractors to be immune from prosecution from anything they do?

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-1/#comment-4199251 RUCerious Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:07:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199251 Is this how KBR treats their employees on a regular basis? Comment by bilbobaggins — December 19, 2007 @ 4:06 pm No, only the ones they consider a threat. Is this how KBR treats their employees on a regular basis?

Comment by bilbobaggins — December 19, 2007 @ 4:06 pm

No, only the ones they consider a threat.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/comment-page-1/#comment-4199250 RUCerious Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:07:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/19/poe-testify-kbr/#comment-4199250 Class of 76, Poli Sci major with econ minor. Just because we don't have a football team, doesn't mean we can't surf our asses off. Class of 76, Poli Sci major with econ minor. Just because we don’t have a football team, doesn’t mean we can’t surf our asses off.

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