Romney embraces Bush.
Romney embraces Bush.
Despite attempts to distance himself from the President in the past, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney has now become one of Bush’s biggest defenders:
I support our troops, and I support what our troops are doing. I also support our president. I believe that the president has acted in good faith and out of a desire to protect this country to do everything in his power to keep America safe. [...]
The president is a person who is deeply devoted to this country and doing what’s right for this country, and protecting American lives.
Romney also recently called on former governor Mike Huckabee to apologize for criticizing the administration’s foreign policy, and he delivered a major speech on religion at the library of former president George H.W. Bush.
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Another classic Mitt Flop.
-GSD
December 19th, 2007 at 4:21 pmRun to the Right!! Keep running!!!
We need to embrace the 24%!!!
December 19th, 2007 at 4:22 pmYou gotta take a chance..when you don’t have a prayer. Romney has officially put his foot in it.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:22 pmThe freedom of the American government to screw over its own people in the interests of the real owners of PLC America
December 19th, 2007 at 4:23 pmOh god. I’m gonna HURL.
Thanks a lot for that, Pretty Mitty.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:23 pmMitt, can you spell D E F E A T ?
December 19th, 2007 at 4:23 pmSuck harder, Mitty!!!! HARDER!!!!!
December 19th, 2007 at 4:23 pmMLK & Mitt:
Asked about the specifics of George Romney’s march with MLK, Mitt Romney’s campaign told the Phoenix that it took place in Grosse Pointe, Michigan. That jibes with the description proffered by David S. Broder in a Washington Post column written days after Mitt’s College Station speech.
Broder, in that column, references a 1967 book he co-authored on the Republican Party, which included a chapter on George Romney. It includes a one-line statement that the senior Romney “has marched with Martin Luther King through the exclusive Grosse Pointe suburb of Detroit.â€
But that account is incorrect. King never marched in Grosse Pointe, according to the Grosse Pointe Historical Society, and had not appeared in the town at all at the time the Broder book was published.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:24 pmWillard: “I believe that the president has acted in good faith…”
If this is what good faith results in, I’m signing up for the Wiccans.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:25 pm“and I support what our troops are doing. I also support our president. ”
ovenmitt
These people are shameless. they either hide behind the troops, or the corpses that were pulled out of the WTC
December 19th, 2007 at 4:26 pmNow Romney’s campaign will slide into the toilet!
December 19th, 2007 at 4:26 pmIf Romney thinks that Bush acts in “good faith”, then it’s clear that Romney doesn’t have a clue what “real faith” actually is. He’s another GOP “fraud”.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:27 pmWhen “good faith” is on a par with “overt lying”, then it’s clear that Romney is using “doublespeak” – right out of Orwell. It’s over, Mitt!
December 19th, 2007 at 4:27 pmIf this were a boxing match instead of a political race, the ref would be saying “Romney’s on the ropes; Romney’s going down”.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:28 pmGreat. The Mormon and The Moron.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:28 pm15 – HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Good one!
December 19th, 2007 at 4:31 pmIt appears very simple in this election. If you wish to continue the current ineptness vote republican.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:31 pmLast week TP was mocking the Republican candidates for (suposedly)distancing themselve from President Bush.
Now, today the TP lemmings are mocking Mitt Romney for NOT distancing himself from Prsident Bush.
Let me guess; you hate Republicans.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:34 pm“huck” huckabee marches on in the name of republicans and christians everywhere. his will be done!
(he’s all yours neo-cons.)
December 19th, 2007 at 4:36 pmLet me guess; you hate Republicans.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
And why not?
You should attempt to read, though. No one mocked the Republicans for distancing themselves from Bush; the comments were that this is a reflection on Bush and the fact that no one wanted to tie themselves to his disastrous administration.
Apparently Romney can’t see the problem.
From my perspective, it’s the people like you that are lemmings (if you are sticking with the inaccurate story about lemmings and cliffs, but that’s another tale).
December 19th, 2007 at 4:36 pmBREAKING:
Congress challenges Bush over CIA tapes
December 19th, 2007 at 4:37 pm
“…protect this country to do everything in his power to keep America safe.”
“…doing what’s right for this country, and protecting American lives.”
sound familiar?
December 19th, 2007 at 4:37 pmhere we go again with the “Campaign of Fear”.
millions of americans will fall for it too.
What this shows me is that Mitt is genuine in his beliefs and statements and doesn’t just follow the polls.
Comment by good_golly — December 19, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
Right, because Romney would never switch completely on major issues just because an election was in view. Nice delusion, but at least for the moment you’re sticking to the subject. I’m not expecting that to last.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:37 pmI believe that the president has acted in good faith and out of a desire to protect this country to do everything in his power to keep America safe. –Mitt Romney
If you believe that statement, Mr. Romney, then surely you must believe the President to be an incompetent buffoon. It either takes complete ineptitude or abject malice to miss every shot you attempt. And if all the President’s bricks were laid with the intention of scoring real points, then it’s clear he is only fit to warm the bench–or perhaps cheerlead.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:38 pmHate is strong word, Charles. But, watching candidates fall in line with a president who generally has done a very bad job is pretty much saying you will do the same as that president.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:38 pmLet me guess; you hate Republicans.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
chuck dick cheney once said,
“guessing don’t get things done, hard work does.”
think about it.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:39 pmLet me guess; you hate Republicans.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
Shouldn’t everybody?
Doesn’t everybody?
December 19th, 2007 at 4:39 pmWhen one is afraid of a fellow named huckleberry that iseth christian and righteous therefore, cans’t though moronize through communication with your savior and lord george of the hague. woe be it to sin by suggesting fornication of eth the peo ple.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:39 pm“…protect this country to do everything in his power to keep America safe.â€
“…doing what’s right for this country, and protecting American lives.â€
sound familiar?
here we go again with the “Campaign of Fearâ€.
millions of americans will fall for it too.
Comment by LividLib
YES! Just let the masses know they’ll still be able to get cheap products made in sweat shops at Wall Mart…
December 19th, 2007 at 4:39 pm“…protect this country to do everything in his power to keep America safe.â€
“…doing what’s right for this country, and protecting American lives.â€
never happened. George is directly responsible for at least 7000 dead Americans. Did everything in his power to endanger Americans, and avoid defending the country, just like his AWOL antics.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:41 pmLefty Patriot,
What, no capital letters and triple exclamation points?
Your medication must be working.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:41 pmComment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
you have the wrong poster. what a surprise, that you’re that unobservant. no wonder we’re losing everywhere.
thanks for 9/11.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:42 pmYour medication must be working.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
speaking of… did you remember to take your lithium?
eh?
December 19th, 2007 at 4:43 pmAs his sons criss cross the nation in a super RV, they support the troops, in spirit, too.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:44 pmPresident Romney.
….Has a nice ring to it, don’t ya think?
December 19th, 2007 at 4:44 pmComment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
Do you deny the failure of Bush/Rice/Rumsfeld on 9/11? Do you deny the poor planning of the ill-conceived Iraq debacle? If so, can I borrow your medication?
December 19th, 2007 at 4:44 pmthanks for 9/11.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — December 19, 2007 @ 4:42 pm
chuck was projecting. give ‘em a break, ok?
December 19th, 2007 at 4:44 pmthanks for 9/11.
Comment by Lefty Patriot
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What do mean by that?
December 19th, 2007 at 4:45 pmRomney may as well strap himself to the top of his car now, his campaign is just so much runny shit.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:45 pmMitt! We hardly knew ya.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:45 pmLet me guess; you hate Republicans.
Comment by Charles James Napier
We hate what the republicans have done to THIS COUNTRY. We hate their behavior and judgements. Can you understand that part?
I don’t believe any of the bloggers here at TP actually hate republicans as persons (at least I don’t), but even if they did – we do live in a free country. At least what’s left of our beloved free country after the repubs have had their hand in our demise.
After all this time, you really can’t still be hanging onto bush’s fortunes, can you?
December 19th, 2007 at 4:46 pmWhat do mean by that?
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 4:45 pm
thanks for 9/11. It’s very simple, you support Republicans, therefore you support the abject failure of national security on 9/11. thanking you is ironic humor.
shall we go on to arithmetic now?
December 19th, 2007 at 4:47 pmLast week TP was mocking the Republican candidates for (suposedly)distancing themselve from President Bush.
Now, today the TP lemmings are mocking Mitt Romney for NOT distancing himself from Prsident Bush.
Let me guess; you hate Republicans.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
Nope — I’m not mocking Romney. At least he is doing his sucking up openly. What I found hypocritical about the Republican candidates in general is that they have been going out of their way to pretend that Bush and Cheney don’t exist, yet (with the exception of Ron Paul) still support every one of their policies despite the American people being fed up with them.
The only thing about Romney I have to ask is — why now? Huckabee cutting into the Bush base a little too far for his comfort?
December 19th, 2007 at 4:48 pmWhat do mean by that?
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 4:45 pm
chuck, are you confused? maybe you should lie down. take a nap.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:48 pmYup, both are two of a kind: Both are morons. One was a draft dodger and other never served in the military.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:50 pmPresident Romney.
….Has a nice ring to it, don’t ya think?
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 4:44 pm
President George Romney had an OK ring, but I’m pretty sure he’s dead.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:50 pmironic humor.
Comment by Lefty Patriot
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Still looking for the irony…..and the humor.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:53 pmStill looking for the irony…..and the humor.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 4:53 pm
Now there’s a surprise.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:54 pmPresident Romney.
….Has a nice ring to it, don’t ya think?
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 4:44 pm
vice president ted nugent,
….Has a nice ring to it, don’t ya think?
(now take your lithium, lie down on the couch and turn on the weather channel. that’s a good boy.)
December 19th, 2007 at 4:55 pmPresident Romney.
….Has a nice ring to it, don’t ya think?
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 4:44 pm
President Rommel
i ’spose that has a nice ring to it too.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:55 pmThe president is a CRIMINAL who is deeply devoted WAR PROFITTING ON THIS country and doing what’s right for HIS CRONIES, and protecting HALIBURTON PROFITS.
Thought I would fix that for you Mitt.
Bush/Cheney
December 19th, 2007 at 4:55 pmHague Trials ‘09
What do mean by that?
Comment by Charles James Napier
I think lefty means that if it weren’t for your beloved imperial king george, 9/11 probably would not have happened. At the very least, the numerous warnings would have been heeded by somebody with an adult awareness of the planet around them.
I think I will add that to every post back to you. It should remind you exactly who was president at the time, and who dropped the ball regarding our security. They both go by the name of Bush.
BTW, thanks for 9/11.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:55 pmDespite the prevailing sentiment here, Romney is intelligent. He also wants to be elected President. He understands that most Americans (and especially Republican Americans) agree with his characterization of the President here.
It should give you pause that the over-the-top comparasions to Hitler, worst President in history sentiment, calls for impeachment and criminal indictments; all may have been a little overdone.
TROLL ALERT!
December 19th, 2007 at 5:00 pmmost Americans (and especially Republican Americans) agree with his characterization of the President here.
Idiotic Comment by CaptainMantastic
76% do not agree, moron
December 19th, 2007 at 5:00 pmComment by CaptainMantastic — December 19, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
chuck?
December 19th, 2007 at 5:00 pmDespite the prevailing sentiment here, Romney is intelligent. He also wants to be elected President. He understands that most Americans (and especially Republican Americans) agree with his characterization of the President here.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 19, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
Yes, of course. That explains the president’s massive approval ratings.
Try not to post while on drugs.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:02 pmActually, Napier, one out of three Republicans wont vote for Mitt because he is a Mormon.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:04 pm76% do not agree, moron
Comment by Buckie Boy — December 19, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
that’s not nice. captain chuck is wrong but he’s not a moron. he’s just coping.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:04 pmActually, Napier, one out of three Republicans wont vote for Mitt because he is a Mormon.
Comment by Xisithrus — December 19, 2007 @ 5:04 pm
captain chuck are you a mormon too?
December 19th, 2007 at 5:06 pmIt should give you pause that the over-the-top comparasions to Hitler, worst President in history sentiment, calls for impeachment and criminal indictments; all may have been a little overdone.
Comment by CaptainMantastic
LOL…Only robots or kool-aid drinkers believe your words.
In 3-5 years time, most high school civics classes will highlight very clearly the present consitutional crisis we have now. President Cheney – and his limping lil buddy W, will be known far and wide as the criminals and delusional imperialists they are.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:06 pmFor you to question the sane – and not question the insane – is hard to understand.
chuck?
Comment by joe cantwell
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CaptainMantastic is correct.
Most Americans, although not entirely satisfied after nearly 8 years of Bush, do not share the same demented, unhinged hatred for the President Bush that you find at crackpot websites such as this one.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:06 pmThough I don’t know if it is still a tenet of their faith, the Mormons used to say that the US Constitution and Government were divinely inspired, which is why they tend to be very patriotic as a rule, and tend not to criticize the government. This was even cynically exploited by the US Government when it came to choosing its atomic sites. They knew that where ever they put them, someone was going to be downwind even in sparsely the populated West. The Nevada sites were chosen because the Mormons in Eastern Nevada and Utah were not seen as the type to raise a stink. I would have thought that the resulting poisoning of many members of the LDS population would have shaken their faith in the US government. This was neither a wholly Republican or Democratic doing– it was a policy that lasted decades and crossed party lines. Not really apropos of anthing really, except that I feel Mitt has similarly misplaced his faith in this President.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:07 pmcaptain chuck are you a mormon too?
Comment by joe cantwell
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No.
Are you?
December 19th, 2007 at 5:08 pmCaptainMantastic is correct.
Most Americans, although not entirely satisfied after nearly 8 years of Bush, do not share the same demented, unhinged hatred for the President Bush that you find at crackpot websites such as this one.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
Hypocrite, please. This is tame compared to the Everlasting Affair With Hatred the Repugnantcans have with anyone named Clinton.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:09 pm“Romney Embraces Bush”….
…and Bush gets a little tingle in his loins.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:09 pm“…at crackpot websites such as this one.”
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
what other crackpot websites do you frequent?
December 19th, 2007 at 5:12 pmMost Americans, although not entirely satisfied after nearly 8 years of Bush, do not share the same demented, unhinged hatred for the President Bush that you find at crackpot websites such as this one.
Comment by Charles James Napier
You worship a man, we worship the country and the founding fathers vision for America.
Thanks for 9/11
December 19th, 2007 at 5:13 pmActually, Napier, one out of three Republicans wont vote for Mitt because he is a Mormon.
Comment by Xisithrus
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Given a choice between Romney and Hillary (or Edwards or Obama) they will.
Personally. I’m a centrist Republican. I’ll be voting for Rudy.
The only Republicans that I would never vote for are Ron Paul and Alan Keyes….Both of them strike me as more than a bit nutty.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:13 pmYou worship a man, we worship the country and the founding fathers vision for America.
Thanks for 9/11
Comment by StratRat — December 19, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
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What man do I worship?….are you referring to Duke Ellington?
December 19th, 2007 at 5:14 pmCaptainMantastic is correct.
Most Americans, although not entirely satisfied after nearly 8 years of Bush, do not share the same demented, unhinged hatred for the President Bush that you find at crackpot websites such as this one.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
You still can’t read, can you? CpnMan said nothing of the kind. He said that most Americans agree with Romney, which is obviously b.s. and well-documented.
Secondly, the people who hate Bush and Cheney are the ones who have been paying attention. Lots of people have other things to do with their time, but it doesn’t mean they agree with Romney.
And, finally, if this blog is so awful why are you here?
December 19th, 2007 at 5:15 pmChuck The Stupidfck is voting for Rudolph the Cousin’-Marryin’ freak! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
December 19th, 2007 at 5:15 pmMost Americans, although not entirely satisfied after nearly 8 years of Bush, do not share the same demented, unhinged hatred for the President Bush that you find at crackpot websites such as this one.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
hahahahaha…most Americans would prefer to see Bush in prison, if not on the gallows. The hatred for Bush is a result of his hatred for America and Americans. The ever-shrinking minority that still hasn’t gotten the extent of his treason are the lunatic fringe who have never served, and never read the Constitution.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:15 pmRomney embraces Bush.
If they are also grabbing each other’s bums, please DON’T post a picture of it. I don’t wanna know…..
December 19th, 2007 at 5:16 pmMost Americans, although not entirely satisfied after nearly 8 years of Bush,….Napier
Most are not satisfied and I think your confusing criticism with enmity.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:16 pmThis is tame compared to the Everlasting Affair With Hatred the Repugnantcans have with anyone named Clinton.
Comment by SteveSOD — December
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I don’t hate Bill Clinton…I voted for him.
And I don’t hate Hillary either….although I won’t be voting for her.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:18 pmMitt, we could argue forever about whether or not Bush BELIEVES his policies are best for the US. But look at all the evidence of what his policies result in: strengthening our enemies, breaking of the Army and Marines, 4,000 US troops dead, $2 Trillion down the drain in Iraq, 1.2 million Iraqi civilians killed violently, 4.5 million refugees, hatred all around the world, etc.
It’s hard to get inside that ignorant warped brain of Bush, but you don’t have to—just look at the results.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:19 pmI don’t hate Bill Clinton…I voted for him.
And I don’t hate Hillary either….although I won’t be voting for her.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:19 pmYup. We believe ya, Chuck. What color is the sky in your world, buddy?
Most Americans, although not entirely satisfied after nearly 8 years of Bush, do not share the same demented, unhinged hatred for the President Bush that you find at crackpot websites such as this one.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
but you’re always here captain chuck. so it really isn’t a “crackpot website”, is it?
(this would a good place for you to apologize.)
December 19th, 2007 at 5:20 pmMost Americans………
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
And you base this on what? Your omnipotency?
December 19th, 2007 at 5:21 pmWhat man do I worship?….are you referring to Duke Ellington?
Comment by Charles James Napier
If you stopped there – or even included Count Basie, or Satchmo – that would be good. Your reverence is clearly for King george. Don’t be ashamed of it – embrace it! Just take a shower afterward.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:22 pmYour reverence is clearly for King george. Don’t be ashamed of it – embrace it! Just take a shower afterward.
Comment by StratRat
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No, I held my nose both times that I voted for George Bush.
I was a Democrat for more than 15 years before I became a Republican.
Lunatics like you folks drove me out.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:26 pmDid you know that Mormons believe that Black people are black because they turned their backs on God in Heaven before the creation?
And even crazier—they believe the Garden of Eden was in Missouri!
December 19th, 2007 at 5:26 pmLunatics like you folks drove me out.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
Oh, so Chuck came out. So he decided to join the party of Larry Craig. Now everything makes sense. Explains the Cousin-Humper support too.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:28 pmFuture “flip-flops” are what I’m looking forward to. Personally, I don’t think Mitt has much of a chance, to capture the right-wing base, even with his support of Bush. However, the Rep. nominee will be faced with a big challenge, especially if Hillary gets the nod from the Dems.
Because, the Rep. nominee will be forced into the strange position of running against two opponents, Georgie and Bill, who aren’t even in the race. Heck, even without Hillary, the Rep. nominee will be doing a fair amount of Clinton bashing. And, anti-Bushism is a given.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:28 pmMit Romney is very wealthy, good looking, married to the same woman, religious, and loyal to George Bush.
So why isn’t he winning the Republican voters support.??
My guess is that he just doesn’t come across as Genuine.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:28 pmLunatics like you folks drove me out.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
wow, can’t even think for yourself, a perfect Republican stooge. Thanks for 9/11, sincerely. it it weren’t for chickenhawk cowards like you, those towers would still be standing.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:29 pmI was a Democrat for more than 15 years before I became a Republican.
Lunatics like you folks drove me out.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
Couldn’t stand all the peace and record prosperity under Clinton, huh? 22 million jobs created compared to W’s 5 million. Record surpluses compared to GHWB’s and GWB’s record deficits. Do you own a major oil company we don’t know about? Or do you just enjoy voting against your own interests?
December 19th, 2007 at 5:31 pmif it weren’t for chickenhawk cowards like you, those towers would still be standing.
Comment by Lefty Patriot
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I hit the “recommend” button for you on that one.
You’re a nut.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:33 pmLunatics like you folks drove me out.
Comment by Charles James Napier
I think that is one of the nicest things you have ever said to me. Gosh, and to think I have nothing for you except derision.
Thanks for 9/11
December 19th, 2007 at 5:34 pmNo, I held my nose both times that I voted for George Bush.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
Thanks for your contribution to attempts to destroy the Republic. You must be very proud that you voted for Bush not once, but twice. It certainly demonstrates what a genius you are.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:35 pmAnd he’ll live to regret that should he become the republiscum nominee.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:35 pmIt’s not nutty to argue that 9/11 (or Katrina) would not have happened if we had a better administration. Any administration in US history would be better than this one! Even conservative historians are saying so.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:37 pmJust Suppose that President Bush…instead of going to Texas to cut brush….had installed Armed Air Marshall on Domestic flights, and carefully checked the passenger lists for known terrorists.
Damn right I think the towers would still be standing.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:37 pmFunny. Lunatics like Georgie, and the neocons, drove me to consider the Republican party a criminal organization.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:38 pmDid you know that Mormons believe that Black people are black because they turned their backs on God in Heaven before the creation?
And even crazier—they believe the Garden of Eden was in Missouri!
Comment by Keith — December 19, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
Actually they believe the black skin was the “Mark of Cain”. Its in their “Discourses” the writings of their “Prophets”. That is why they denied the priesthood to blacks.
That is until there was a lawsuit, then suddenly the Prophet “had a vision” and God changed his mind, now blacks can hold the priesthood. Black men rather.
For those who don’t know, all men in the LDS church are ordained as priests. Women are not considered worthy of priesthood.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:39 pmI think it’s also safe to say that none of the Republicriminal candidates are members of “the reality based community”.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:42 pmLunatics like you folks drove me out.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
well welcome back captain chuck!
December 19th, 2007 at 5:44 pmComment by BERT CONVY — December 19, 2007 @ 5:43 pm
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December 19th, 2007 at 5:45 pmI don’t mind admitting that I hate George W. Bush with every fiber of my being.
And it sure as hell is NOT “mindless, demented hatred.”
On the contrary, I’ve got at least 100 damned good reasons to hate that lying, thieving, Constitution-destroying chickenhawk bastard’s guts (that’s 4 good solid reasons right there).
December 19th, 2007 at 5:45 pmNo, I held my nose both times that I voted for George Bush.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
dunking your head in the toilet 3 times and coming up twice would have been more effective.
Now you can eventually tell you grandchildren youvoted for the dumbest, most crooked president ever, twice.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:45 pmTo My Republican Friends:
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Comment by BERT CONVY — December 19, 2007 @ 5:43 pm
December 19th, 2007 at 5:46 pmYeah. You can’t use big words with Republicans. Ya gotta keep it short and stupid. Thanks Bert Convict!
Now you can eventually tell you grandchildren youvoted for the dumbest, most crooked president ever…..
Comment by Wayne
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No, I didn’t vote for Jimmy Carter.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:47 pmNo, I didn’t vote for Jimmy Carter.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:47 pm Holy crap. Did you really think that was a zinger of a comeback? That was fcking pathetic.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:48 pmLunatics like you folks drove me out.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
You consider a veteran who fought and bled for this country a lunatic, huh?
December 19th, 2007 at 5:48 pmI guess you fit right in with the rich wingers then
Jimmy Carter. Crooked???? Evidence???
December 19th, 2007 at 5:50 pmNo, I didn’t vote for Jimmy Carter.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:47 pm
And what evidence do you propose for proof of your claim that Carter was crooked?
December 19th, 2007 at 5:52 pmSee, Chuck, what you SHOULD have done was take the “Fox News” approach, and people would KNOW that you had nothing to back up your lame arguments with. Maybe something like, “Some people say Jimmy Carter was crooked.” Dammit man, don’t they teach you anything in NeoCon school?
December 19th, 2007 at 5:56 pmHm. You’re the “Die Hard” brand Troll, huh? Kinda like Flaccid Fred Thompson?
December 19th, 2007 at 5:57 pmAnd what evidence do you propose for proof of your claim that Carter was crooked?
Comment by Wayne
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You’re right…Carter was not crooked as far as I know, just inept.
December 19th, 2007 at 5:59 pmFormer Governor Romney is still operating under the misconception that written, and recorded, statements can be “talked away”. If nothing else, Bushco has sharpened our B.S. detecting skills.
I can’t wait to watch the nominees, from each party, squirm when confronted with their own contradictions. Heck, if the MSM were still effective, we could eliminate the entire field and get better candidates. Alas, change comes slowly when it’s driven from the bottom. But, assuming anyone is left to care, we should see a new era of responsible government in our lifetimes.
Of course, it could take angry mobs dragging the current crop of criminals out of office. However, I find it hard to believe said criminals have the courage to take it that far.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:00 pmHell, Carter wasn’t crooked as far as I know … just an inept moron.
I agree, Carter is a good person, but as President, he …. well…. kinda sucked.
Yippie-Ki-Yay Moonbats
Comment by BERT CONVY — December 19, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
Happy stall tapping to you too, republican-in-the-closet guy.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:00 pmUh, yeah, thanks “Keep It In The Family” candidate supporter. Bert said the same damn thing two posts up.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:01 pmWayne,
Seems there are conflicting racist Mormon dogma on why Blacks are black:
WIKI: “Joseph F. Smith, president of the church, published his views that people with dark skin were less faithful in the pre-existence, and as such, did not warrant the blessings of the priesthood.”
On “The McLaughlin Group” on Sunday, Lawrence O’Donnell in his strong criticism said Mormons believe it was because Blacks turned their backs on God pre-Creation.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:01 pmAnd what, pray tell, does a President from thirty years ago have to do with someone seeking the nomination today? And, how can anything Pres. Carter did, or didn’t do, compare with invading the wrong country?
December 19th, 2007 at 6:04 pmReport as Abuse the above posters, Bert, Charles for being off topic and derailing the thread.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:07 pmAnd what, pray tell, does a President from thirty years ago have to do with someone seeking the nomination today? And, how can anything Pres. Carter did, or didn’t do, compare with invading the wrong country?
Comment by pete — December 19, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
Well, if you had to defend Bush, wouldn’t you do your best to change the subject? Clinton, Kennedy, Carter, anybody but Bush. Bush Derangement Syndrome is a wingnut pathology.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:08 pmWayne,
Seems there are conflicting racist Mormon dogma on why Blacks are black:
Comment by Keith — December 19, 2007 @ 6:01 pm
Tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith wrote, “It was well understood by the early elders of the Church that the mark which was placed on Cain and which his posterity inherited was the black skin. The Book of Moses informs us that Cain and his descendants were black” (The Way to Perfection, p.107).
more at:
http://www.mrm.org/topics/miscellaneous/black-skin-and-seed-cain
My ex’s family are Mormons, soIdid alotof research and reading into the Church.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:08 pmThat’s right! Look at Chickensht Bush! He’s never been in combat, but he has no problems sending kids to die for his personal vendetta!
December 19th, 2007 at 6:14 pmAnd the House just passed 70 billion in new war money with no strings. Why do the damn dems think they have no choice but to cave in?
December 19th, 2007 at 6:16 pmNo, I didn’t vote for Jimmy Carter.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:47 pm
So much for the “I was a Democrat but I switched because y’all are crazy” ploy. Exactly which Democrat did you vote for?
December 19th, 2007 at 6:16 pmComment by CaptainMantastic — December 19, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
True—but shouldn’t it anger people the way Kerry (the volunteer and medal-winner) was smeared while everyone in this administration (who needlessly sent 4,000 US troops to their death) did their damndest to avoid Vietnam??
December 19th, 2007 at 6:16 pmJust because you served in combat; it doesn’t make your position more valid than someone who hasn’t.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 19, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
Uh, duh, when it comes to commenting on the hell that war is, yet it FU(KING does.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:16 pmchuck napier: “Let me guess; you hate Republicans.”
Hey, good guess!
December 19th, 2007 at 6:21 pmJust because you served in combat; it doesn’t make your position more valid than someone who hasn’t.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 19, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
Uh, yes it does, captainFOOLtastic.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:22 pm“Just because you served in combat; it doesn’t make your position more valid than someone who hasn’t.”
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 19, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
Right, Captain. And just because you live in a big house, it doesn’t mean you’re a hypocrit for working to fight Global Warming.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:24 pmIs it happy hour? The abusive insults from both sides seem to have increased quite a bit in the past hour. Is it possible to have a rational discussion here?
Comment by good_golly — December 19, 2007 @ 5:57 pm
Not as long as you’re still here, good-golly-what-a-traitor.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:24 pmHere’s is the charming fellow our current bogus ex-Democrat has screen named himself after.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:24 pmYou make draw your own conclusions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_James_Napier
Very nice.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:26 pmYou’re right…Carter was not crooked as far as I know, just inept.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 19, 2007 @ 5:59 pm
And Bush is both crooked and inept, yet you love him more than you love your country. That makes you a traitor.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:26 pmRomney hitching his wagon to Bush is like paddling your lifeboat up to the Titanic and tying up because it’s too choppy.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:26 pmThis is no surprise. Jeb is an adviser to Mitt, in case you folks don’t know. The thing about this little ditty is Mike H. was right about at least one thing, GW is a bad guy, and undoubtedly the worst Prez in our history.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:27 pmViews on subduing insurgencies
General Napier put down several insurgencies in India during his reign as Commander-in-Chief in India, and once said of his philosophy about how to do so effectively:
“The best way to quiet a country is a good thrashing, followed by great kindness afterwards. Even the wildest chaps are thus tamed”[3]
He also once said that “the human mind is never better disposed to gratitude and attachment than when softened by fear”[3]
An implementation of this theory would be after the Battle of Miani, where most of the Mirs surrendered. One leader held back and was told by Napier:
Here’s a highlight. Any guesses why he would choose as a role model a conquering oppressor faced with an insurgency?
“Come here instantly. Come here at once and make your submission, or I will in a week tear you from the midst of your village and hang you”"[3]
The reason he felt brutality was necessary for the proper conquest of rebellions may have been his opinion that “so perverse is mankind that every nationality prefers to misgoverned by its own people than to be well ruled by another”[3] Whatever the reason for his views on fighting insurgencies, the fact remains that he was one of Great Britain’s most effective generals at doing this in India, often facing well-armed fighters.”
December 19th, 2007 at 6:27 pmRomney hitching his wagon to Bush is like paddling your lifeboat up to the Titanic and tying up because it’s too choppy.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — December 19, 2007 @ 6:26 pm
LOL Nice!
December 19th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
“Carter was not crooked as far as I know, just inept.”
Right. Carter was so inept that he thought way back in 1978 that we should lessen our dependence on foreign oil and put solar cells on our roofs. What a dufus!
December 19th, 2007 at 6:28 pmThat Herman Munster-lookin’ twat John Ellis Bush is an adviser to Romney? That fcking figures.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:29 pmWell, If I had served in combat, would my positions be more valid than those here that hadn’t?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 19, 2007 @ 6:28 pm
There’s a hypothetical we won’t have to concern ourselves about.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:32 pm~snicker~
December 19th, 2007 at 6:34 pmCaptain: “Well, If I had served in combat, would my positions be more valid than those here that hadn’t?”
I don’t know about more valid, but definitely better informed and more likely to be respected. For example, John McCaine’s views of torture and what constitutes it are definitely informed by his years in prison being tortured by the North Vietnamese.
Iraq and Afganistan Veterans of America (IAVA) has a website that grades lawmakers on their voting record with respect to supporting the troops. I recommend that everyone go see how real veterans rate our representatives.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:35 pmWell, If I had served in combat, would my positions be more valid than those here that hadn’t?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 19, 2007 @ 6:28 pm
captain chuck might be right. chicken hawks have their points too and some of them may or may not be valid.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:43 pm#114: Good question, although when the ” Nuts and Wackos” get together there is little chance.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:48 pmWell, If I had served in combat, would my positions be more valid than those here that hadn’t?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 19, 2007 @ 6:28 pm
well, they’d most likely be different, as most combat vets are enirely against torture. but either way, you’d have far more validity than y8ou now do.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:52 pm#144 SteveSOD: Don’t feel bad, most folks are keep in the dark about the Bush family as well as to what goes on a t The WH.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:53 pmAs I’ve stated here before, those who favor this illegal, immoral, filthy war, and that have never served, have no standing to puke up their uninformed, ideological opinions on torture or tactics.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:54 pmI agree. One need not have served in the military to realize that Mitt is a dangerous opportunist who doesn’t even have the political acumen to realize that, at this point, supporting Bush is suicidal.
I’ve been wrong before but, I don’t think the Dems. have to spend much time on how to fight the “Mormonater”.
December 19th, 2007 at 6:56 pmI respect veterans, but I disagree with the idea that those who haven’t served, should somehow have their opinions discounted because of it.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 19, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
In discussing battlefield issues, strategy as far as the military goes, yeah a seasoned war veteran will know more about the subject. ( securing the Oil Minestry in Iraq first and leaving weapon/ammo dumps unguarded or unblown was a big no-no from my military experience for example. My CO would have skinned us alive if we ever made such a fck-up )
Also the torture issues… in the Army Field manual it explicitly states torture is illegal, and is banned. If we torture then we have no legal or moral standing if our soldiers are treated the same.
December 19th, 2007 at 7:09 pmSo, Cap’n. Man, can you share your experiences as a combat trainee with us?
December 19th, 2007 at 7:11 pmOr is it a secret, and all the evidence is gone?
I support the war. Have served. In combat
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 19, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
Which branch, division. Where did you get deployed to combat?
December 19th, 2007 at 7:14 pmIs my opinion worth considering here?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 19, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
liar.
December 19th, 2007 at 7:44 pmWhere did da captain go?
**crickets*chirping**
December 19th, 2007 at 7:48 pmThis Captain and Tenille act of Mantastic, Napier and Bert is beginning to sound a lot like an episode of the Montel Williams show, with injured righties filling in for the usual parade of human misfortune Montel panders for.
Man up, guys.
December 19th, 2007 at 7:59 pmWrap up all your righty-whining, put a little bow on it, and send it to Oprah – maybe she’d give a rat’s ass for it, and give you an epilady as a thanks-for-writing gift.
December 19th, 2007 at 8:00 pm…George Bush as somehow dishonest. I challenge you to show me where this good man has done anything close to your deity The Rapist and Chief Clinton. And when you’re done perhaps you could convince the Clintons to bring back the furniture they looted & pilfered from the White House the last time they left. Merry Moonbat Christmas girls.
Comment by BERT CONVY — December 19, 2007 @ 7:51 pm
Perhaps this is a question better asked of the family’s who have lost their loved ones in Iraq because of George Bush’s lies, eh? Frankly, I think Americans killed by an unnecessary war that was waged after a pack of lies was sold to the American public trumps a president getting a blow-job from a fat broad, or any purported missing furniture. I won’t wish you a merry Christmas GIRL, but I will wish a prison term on your a$$ based on your treason. You are a traitor to the United States and sadly you are too stupid to be ashamed of yourself.
December 19th, 2007 at 8:01 pmNapier,
Too bad you didn’t learn from your namesake who said “every nationality prefers to misgoverned by its own people than to be well ruled by another”. That means the Iraqis and Afghans don’t want us there!
I thought you were named after the producer of “Super Vixens”.
December 19th, 2007 at 8:12 pm“you bunch malign George Bush as somehow dishonest”
Comment by MrPee
Well, every reason he gave for invading Iraq was a known lie long before it was given. There is a mountain of evidence on my side and none on yours.
He also lied about going AWOL during wartime, which is punishable by death. It’s worse than receiving a bl0wjob.
December 19th, 2007 at 8:16 pmAnd Clinton did NOT lie about the bj. He just used the prosecutors’ definition of “sexual relations”–which did not include bj’s.
December 19th, 2007 at 8:18 pmGreat! Romney’s just *bleeped* himself, and big time. Which repug wants to embrace Spanky McDumbass next?! I sincerely hope the remaining repug candidates embrace the Chimpster.
December 19th, 2007 at 9:05 pmEven Mitt’s presidential “Jaw” will not save him.
Who are these idiots going to run? A Crazed Flat Earth Fundamentalist or A Cheating Fascist Cross-Dresser?
December 19th, 2007 at 9:13 pmI was with a C130 Airlift Wing (USAFR), we staged out of Rhein-Main AB in Germany for 3-4 weeks at a time. Flew humanitarian supplies into Sarajevo Airport.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 19, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
That was a good mission IMHO.
1982-1991, 82nd Airborne, 2nd Brigade, did several combat missions, some “under the radar”, getting my leg shattered in Desert Storm ended my military career.
December 19th, 2007 at 9:57 pmNapier,
Too bad you didn’t learn from your namesake who said “every nationality prefers to misgoverned by its own people than to be well ruled by anotherâ€.
Comment by Keith — December 19, 2007 @ 8:16 pm
“Well ruled….” LOL Napier was a ruthless bastard
December 19th, 2007 at 10:03 pmThanks, Capt., for your service to country. Good thing you guys had the CinC you did (and Gen’l Clark) to see you through it safely. Your better brand of sportsmanship around here sets a good example for others. My apology for lumping you together with Bert, whose example pretty much speaks for itself.
December 19th, 2007 at 10:04 pmWhere’s a big Rightie blog I can hang out at and “spatter invective” like some of these trolling money-huggers?
December 19th, 2007 at 10:31 pmHe understands that most Americans (and especially Republican Americans) agree with his characterization of the President here.
It should give you pause that the over-the-top comparasions to Hitler, worst President in history sentiment, calls for impeachment and criminal indictments; all may have been a little overdone.
Comment by CaptainMantastic
This post just goes to show how out of touch with reality this troll is. He thinks that 28% is most Americans. It isn’t even most Republiscums.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:10 amI’m curious, but I think I know the answer. If you had it to do over again, would you do it the same way?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 19, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
Let me answer it this way.
I tried to sign up after 9/11, to go help get Osama but they didn’t want me I was “too old” and my injury. =P
I knew they probably wouldn’t but I tried anyway.
So yeah, I would do it over again.
I still think Afghanistan needed to happen, But frankly Bush has totally fcked up the whole region with his idiotic execution of the war. And invading Iraq for WMDs they made up and bald faced lied to us about. The reasons we didn’t take out Saddam in 91, happened, only made worst by utter military idiocy.
Right after the election of 2004 ( they waited until after Bush won ) They dropped a white phosphorous burst over Fallujah, killing civilians, the elderly, women, children.
If the initial combustion when it sucked all of the oxygen didn’t kill them right off, the phosphorous melting their skin off finished the job.
Frankly, melting the skin off babies never endears an occupied civilian population.
Think about it for a minute…..Turn it around……
What if a foreign force occupying the US had done that to the town, your Mom lives in?
What would you do?
What do you think that made the Iraqi civilians want to do?
Thats just one way they boosted the insurgency, and the pictures that got out, even though the Bush Administration tried to censor horrified and pissed off even some of our allies.
Abu-Grabass was another debacle.
I can list alot more strategic mistakes made in Iraq, but it would take all night typing.
One of my biggest peeves:
And I have been protesting for veteran rights since Bushco started screwing over veterans and the war wounded. The media has practically ignored every protest I have been to.
It’s total bullsh!t the way vets have been systematically screwed over for the last 7 years. Support the Troops, my ass.
You realize the Republican Congress ended the yearly meetings with veteran groups, to hear their grievances after a half a century, to as they said “To avoid embarrasing the President” WTF?
Finally the media has broken some of the stuff that went on.
I debated with Exley about veteran treatment well over a year ago. He never has come back to admit he was wrong, after the MSM finally broke it open.
All I can say, if you are a veteran, you need to take a very close look at the way Bush has been treating your brothers and sisters in arms.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:17 amIt is not right and there is no excuse in the world that can make it right.
Where’s a big Rightie blog I can hang out at and “spatter invective†like some of these trolling money-huggers?
Comment by evil_framers_of_the_constitution
There are none. The minute you post a dissenting opinion you are banned from the site. And the Republiscum sites are more efficient than TP. They use the IP address so you can’t just go get another e-mail address and re-register.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:30 amComment by bilbobaggins — December 20, 2007 @ 12:30 am
I was banned from RedState after a single post. Two words. “What WMD’s?”
December 20th, 2007 at 12:35 amYou know we are in trouble when questions are banned from public forums.
LOL, “What WMD’s”? I am not surprised but it still never ceases to amaze me what thin skins righties have.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:48 amI was banned from FreeRepublic on my first post. I was doing a good job of pretending to be one of them and said “we” should not support Jeff Gannon because evidence showed that he had no journalism experience and he had websites advertising himself as a hooker.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:51 pmI’ll take another look at Republican treatment of veterans.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 20, 2007 @ 11:34 am
In yesterday’s appropriations bill, Dems favored more money for veterans’ care and Repubs opposed (as always). The trouble at Walter Reed was caused by this administration’s privatizing with a crony corporation.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:54 pm