Comments on: A Democratic Revolution? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:02:48 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-3/#comment-4201413 Gregor Samsa Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:56:44 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4201413 Jason M Hendler now: <i>[...] you will lose in 2008. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 20, 2007 @ 2:13 pm Jason M Hendler back then: </i><i>Have you prepared your rants for your losses on Nov. 7? Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 26, 2006 @ 3:28 pm I predict the Dem will lose by at least 4 percent. Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 25, 2006 @ 10:52 pm I understand you won’t hear me now, but after Nov. 7, you can review my teachings, and drink in the wisdom. Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 2, 2006 @ 6:31 pm</i> Reichwingers & assorted Bush cultists: They simply have no self-awareness whatsoever. Otherwise they'd be too embarrassed to keep spouting their drivel. Jason M Hendler now:

[...] you will lose in 2008.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 20, 2007 @ 2:13 pm

Jason M Hendler back then:

Have you prepared your rants for your losses on Nov. 7?
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 26, 2006 @ 3:28 pm

I predict the Dem will lose by at least 4 percent.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 25, 2006 @ 10:52 pm

I understand you won’t hear me now, but after Nov. 7, you can review my teachings, and drink in the wisdom.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 2, 2006 @ 6:31 pm

Reichwingers & assorted Bush cultists: They simply have no self-awareness whatsoever. Otherwise they’d be too embarrassed to keep spouting their drivel.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-3/#comment-4201179 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:07:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4201179 Hey Southern Man, how many of your republicans who signed on to term limits as part of their "Republican revolution" honored their pledge and left after two terms? Hey Southern Man, how many of your republicans who signed on to term limits as part of their “Republican revolution” honored their pledge and left after two terms?

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-3/#comment-4201177 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:06:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4201177 Conservative and proudly stupid: "Your MAJORITY failed you in both houses." Get a clue, moron. Ours is the only democratic system in the world where the majority does not necessarily win. Crack open a book and stop acting like you know what you're talking about. Conservative and proudly stupid: “Your MAJORITY failed you in both houses.”

Get a clue, moron. Ours is the only democratic system in the world where the majority does not necessarily win. Crack open a book and stop acting like you know what you’re talking about.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-3/#comment-4201174 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:04:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4201174 Conservative and proud to be an a-hole: "Lets not talk about the “trolls” on the other side who used filibusters, parliamentary procedures, point of orders etc." Why not, a-hole? That's the way the chamber works. Were you jacking off instead of listening in civics class? Conservative and proud to be an a-hole: “Lets not talk about the “trolls” on the other side who used filibusters, parliamentary procedures, point of orders etc.”

Why not, a-hole? That’s the way the chamber works. Were you jacking off instead of listening in civics class?

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-3/#comment-4201154 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:49:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4201154 What, no response from the brave conservatives who have been bashing Democrats because they couldn't overcome the most legislative obstruction in the history of our country? 62 FILIBUSTERS IS THE MOST IN AMERICAN HISTORY! The republicans in congress have obstructed the most legislation in American history. Hey have obstructed the will of the majority of the American people to an unprecidented degree. They have distinguished themselves as the most cravenly cynical political party in history. Hopefully, the voters will remember. Hopefully, the voters will make them pay. What, no response from the brave conservatives who have been bashing Democrats because they couldn’t overcome the most legislative obstruction in the history of our country? 62 FILIBUSTERS IS THE MOST IN AMERICAN HISTORY! The republicans in congress have obstructed the most legislation in American history. Hey have obstructed the will of the majority of the American people to an unprecidented degree. They have distinguished themselves as the most cravenly cynical political party in history. Hopefully, the voters will remember. Hopefully, the voters will make them pay.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-3/#comment-4201068 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:14:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4201068 How strange to read through 112 posts on a subject like this and have nobody point out that at 62 filibusters, the 110th congress republicans have set the historical record for obstruction. Never in the history of our country has one party obstructed so much legislation and so much of the will of the majority. The craven political strategy of the current repubs in congress is unprecidented. 62 FILIBUSTERS!!! THE MOST IN HISTORY. Such is the power of corporate media propaganda that people aren't even aware of this. How strange to read through 112 posts on a subject like this and have nobody point out that at 62 filibusters, the 110th congress republicans have set the historical record for obstruction. Never in the history of our country has one party obstructed so much legislation and so much of the will of the majority. The craven political strategy of the current repubs in congress is unprecidented. 62 FILIBUSTERS!!! THE MOST IN HISTORY.

Such is the power of corporate media propaganda that people aren’t even aware of this.

]]> By: Conservative and proud http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-3/#comment-4200743 Conservative and proud Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:06:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4200743 to all Progressives: Your MAJORITY failed you in both houses. They ran on ending the war and did not. They ran on ending "Warrantless" they did not. Closing Guantanamo, ah NOO! Expanding SHIP, that would be a NO. Ending Earmarks: expanded them. Fiscal responsibility- what a joke! They even tried to sneak in the dream act, something the vast majority of Americans are against- thankfully NO again! You can look at it two ways: 1) they either out right lied to their base or 2) They are totally incompetent Lets not talk about the "trolls" on the other side who used filibusters, parliamentary procedures, point of orders etc. Are you naive enough to believe that they were blind sided by these procedures? There is one other possibility: the "base" was USED, whipped into a unrealistic frenzy of expecation for the sole purpose of maximizing donations. Pity the BDS infected, frothing base! to all Progressives: Your MAJORITY failed you in both houses. They ran on ending the war and did not. They ran on ending “Warrantless” they did not. Closing Guantanamo, ah NOO! Expanding SHIP, that would be a NO. Ending Earmarks: expanded them. Fiscal responsibility- what a joke! They even tried to sneak in the dream act, something the vast majority of Americans are against- thankfully NO again!
You can look at it two ways:
1) they either out right lied to their base or
2) They are totally incompetent
Lets not talk about the “trolls” on the other side who used filibusters, parliamentary procedures, point of orders etc. Are you naive enough to believe that they were blind sided by these procedures?
There is one other possibility: the “base” was USED, whipped into a unrealistic frenzy of expecation for the sole purpose of maximizing donations. Pity the BDS infected, frothing base!

]]> By: Jason M. Hendler http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-3/#comment-4200622 Jason M. Hendler Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:13:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4200622 Inspite of succeeding against your "promises", it was your attempts to lose the War in Iraq that has your popularity far below that of Bush's. You can wave that around all you want, but to move your numbers, you have to tell people what you intend to do in the future. If it is constantly attempting to undermine US war efforts, you will lose in 2008. Inspite of succeeding against your “promises”, it was your attempts to lose the War in Iraq that has your popularity far below that of Bush’s.

You can wave that around all you want, but to move your numbers, you have to tell people what you intend to do in the future. If it is constantly attempting to undermine US war efforts, you will lose in 2008.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-3/#comment-4200578 bilbobaggins Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:45:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4200578 <em>Comment by gummitch — December 20, 2007 @ 10:32 am</em> You don't actually subscribe to the Oregonian do you? I stopped taking it two years ago when I realized I was not getting the news I needed to read about. I also stopped taking the Corvallis newspaper for the same reason. I now get all my news on-line. I do watch Countdown just to see Keith getting all worked up about the news of the day. I'm glad he is there because there are some people who don't get their news from the internet or newspapers. Comment by gummitch — December 20, 2007 @ 10:32 am

You don’t actually subscribe to the Oregonian do you? I stopped taking it two years ago when I realized I was not getting the news I needed to read about. I also stopped taking the Corvallis newspaper for the same reason.

I now get all my news on-line. I do watch Countdown just to see Keith getting all worked up about the news of the day. I’m glad he is there because there are some people who don’t get their news from the internet or newspapers.

]]> By: Max-1 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-3/#comment-4200564 Max-1 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:35:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4200564 . Pass all the bills they want, until WARRANTLESS is recognized as illegal and TORTURE is recognized as being illegal that FRAUD is illegal, Congress shames America by doing nothing to support and defend OUR RIGHTS. . .

Pass all the bills they want, until WARRANTLESS is recognized as illegal and TORTURE is recognized as being illegal that FRAUD is illegal, Congress shames America by doing nothing to support and defend OUR RIGHTS.

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]]> By: batbird http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-3/#comment-4200561 batbird Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:34:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4200561 If 2006 had gone the other way, that is to say that if Republicans had gained ground, then think of what our life would be today. There would have been no hope for raising the minimum wage, the government would sink deeper into secrecy, etc. etc. If you could subtract the Republican obstructionists from the Congress popularity poll, then the numbers would tick up a bit. 2008 is the most important election in my lifetime. We must change course for America and restore our honor. If 2006 had gone the other way, that is to say that if Republicans had gained ground, then think of what our life would be today.
There would have been no hope for raising the minimum wage, the government would sink deeper into secrecy, etc. etc.

If you could subtract the Republican obstructionists from the Congress popularity poll, then the numbers would tick up a bit.

2008 is the most important election in my lifetime. We must change course for America and restore our honor.

]]> By: Keltoi http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-3/#comment-4200448 Keltoi Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:34:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4200448 Besides, an extra beer is a reward, not a punishment. Comment by gummitch — December 20, 2007 @ 12:33 pm You are on to me... Besides, an extra beer is a reward, not a punishment.

Comment by gummitch — December 20, 2007 @ 12:33 pm

You are on to me…

]]> By: gummitch http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-3/#comment-4200447 gummitch Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:33:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4200447 <em>I will have to drink an extra beer in atonement. Comment by Keltoi — December 20, 2007 @ 11:21 am I think you’ve had enough. Comment by Shayne — December 20, 2007 @ 12:25 pm</em> Besides, an extra beer is a reward, not a punishment. I will have to drink an extra beer in atonement.

Comment by Keltoi — December 20, 2007 @ 11:21 am

I think you’ve had enough.

Comment by Shayne — December 20, 2007 @ 12:25 pm

Besides, an extra beer is a reward, not a punishment.

]]> By: Shayne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-3/#comment-4200434 Shayne Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:25:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4200434 I will have to drink an extra beer in atonement. Comment by Keltoi — December 20, 2007 @ 11:21 am I think you've had enough. I will have to drink an extra beer in atonement.

Comment by Keltoi — December 20, 2007 @ 11:21 am

I think you’ve had enough.

]]> By: Shayne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-2/#comment-4200421 Shayne Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:20:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4200421 I’m beginning to think that this lack of aggressiveness by commenters here relating to the other side of the aisle is the same type of “lack of balls” that is pinned on Democrats. Where’s Code Pink when you need them? Comment by justasking — December 20, 2007 @ 11:08 am Exactly. We need more Democrats elected for this to change. And badmouthing those trying and failing to make changes doesn't help anything. If all this naysaying convinces people that nothing can change and they stay away from the polls then what has been accomplished? I’m beginning to think that this lack of aggressiveness by commenters here relating to the other side of the aisle is the same type of “lack of balls” that is pinned on Democrats. Where’s Code Pink when you need them?

Comment by justasking — December 20, 2007 @ 11:08 am

Exactly. We need more Democrats elected for this to change. And badmouthing those trying and failing to make changes doesn’t help anything. If all this naysaying convinces people that nothing can change and they stay away from the polls then what has been accomplished?

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-2/#comment-4200413 Wayne Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:16:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4200413 The war on terror is already lost. Comment by Lefty Patriot — December 20, 2007 @ 12:11 pm The US lost the "War on Terra" when the pictures from Abu-Grabass hit the news, when the pictures of babies with their skin burned off by WP hit the news, when news the US was kidnapping people and torturing them hit the news. All of these nazi tactics only served to recruit people to fight against us. We took the favor of the world after 9/11 and turned it against us because Bush is a fscking moron. The war on terror is already lost.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — December 20, 2007 @ 12:11 pm

The US lost the “War on Terra” when the pictures from Abu-Grabass hit the news, when the pictures of babies with their skin burned off by WP hit the news, when news the US was kidnapping people and torturing them hit the news.

All of these nazi tactics only served to recruit people to fight against us.

We took the favor of the world after 9/11 and turned it against us because Bush is a fscking moron.

]]> By: gummitch http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-2/#comment-4200405 gummitch Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:11:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4200405 <em>gummitch: Bowtie!! (Slowly I turn, step by step……I think I’m having a Tucker nightmare!!)…. Comment by Veritas — December 20, 2007 @ 11:48 am</em> When he was a city councilman I took a decided dislike to him, primarily because he's a career politician and I always thought of him as too slick. He did show up at the Greek Festival with pins urging people to "Vote for Blumenopolis", which was pretty funny. Once he got to Congress, he turned out to be a solid progressive and a great representative for Portland. Other than that damn tie! gummitch: Bowtie!! (Slowly I turn, step by step……I think I’m having a Tucker nightmare!!)….

Comment by Veritas — December 20, 2007 @ 11:48 am

When he was a city councilman I took a decided dislike to him, primarily because he’s a career politician and I always thought of him as too slick. He did show up at the Greek Festival with pins urging people to “Vote for Blumenopolis”, which was pretty funny. Once he got to Congress, he turned out to be a solid progressive and a great representative for Portland. Other than that damn tie!

]]> By: Lefty Patriot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-2/#comment-4200403 Lefty Patriot Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:11:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4200403 Because they understand that the war cannot be stopped just because the fringe left wants it. The war on terror will last until we’ve won. Comment by Frank M — December 20, 2007 @ 10:50 am The war on terror is already lost. The US can no more stamp out the terrorists we have created and funded than it can justify the mass murder of innocent Iraqis by a series of lies. Because they understand that the war cannot be stopped just because the fringe left wants it. The war on terror will last until we’ve won.

Comment by Frank M — December 20, 2007 @ 10:50 am

The war on terror is already lost. The US can no more stamp out the terrorists we have created and funded than it can justify the mass murder of innocent Iraqis by a series of lies.

]]> By: tombaker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-2/#comment-4200401 tombaker Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:10:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4200401 91 - If the situation is really as bad as you portray, there's really nothing left to do about it. Might as well be looking to repatriate. I've had the very same feelings, but at the end of the day, despair just doesn't do the trick for me. If it took us a long time to get where we are, then it's reasonable to assume it's going to take a while to get where we want to be - more than a year, for sure. 91 – If the situation is really as bad as you portray, there’s really nothing left to do about it. Might as well be looking to repatriate. I’ve had the very same feelings, but at the end of the day, despair just doesn’t do the trick for me.

If it took us a long time to get where we are, then it’s reasonable to assume it’s going to take a while to get where we want to be – more than a year, for sure.

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/comment-page-2/#comment-4200399 Wayne Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:09:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/a-democratic-revolution/#comment-4200399 He needs more support and exposure from progressives. Comment by justasking — December 20, 2007 @ 11:53 am Kucinich has been left out by the MSM in a deliberate attempt to promote their favored "front runners". It is not the progressives, it is the media attempting to steer voters. He needs more support and exposure from progressives.
Comment by justasking — December 20, 2007 @ 11:53 am

Kucinich has been left out by the MSM in a deliberate attempt to promote their favored “front runners”. It is not the progressives, it is the media attempting to steer voters.

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