Comments on: Bush considers becoming a lobbyist someday. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:53:43 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-2/#comment-4201375 Gregor Samsa Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:19:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4201375 And you thought Abramoff gave lobbyists a bad name. If the Bush version of "lobbying" is similar to his version of "diplomacy", there will be a lot of people with broken knee caps in the near future in Washington DC... And you thought Abramoff gave lobbyists a bad name.

If the Bush version of “lobbying” is similar to his version of “diplomacy”, there will be a lot of people with broken knee caps in the near future in Washington DC…

]]> By: LibertyLover http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-2/#comment-4201336 LibertyLover Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:12:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4201336 Personally, I would like to exile him to Elbe... but I'll settle for Paraguay. Personally, I would like to exile him to Elbe… but I’ll settle for Paraguay.

]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-2/#comment-4200748 missmolly Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:07:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200748 MissMolly, please add the use of signing statements to selectively enforce laws. Thank You. Comment by RUCerious — December 20, 2007 @ 12:51 pm ooo -- forgot that one! But there are just so many, you know -- some were bound to fall through the cracks. MissMolly, please add the use of signing statements to selectively enforce laws.
Thank You.

Comment by RUCerious — December 20, 2007 @ 12:51 pm

ooo — forgot that one! But there are just so many, you know — some were bound to fall through the cracks.

]]> By: DieNowForPeace http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-2/#comment-4200736 DieNowForPeace Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:03:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200736 How would Bush's job as a lobbyist be any different than what he's doing now - besides the paycheck and kickbacks? How would Bush’s job as a lobbyist be any different than what he’s doing now – besides the paycheck and kickbacks?

]]> By: shoeless http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-2/#comment-4200598 shoeless Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:01:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200598 <em>Wouldn’t Bush need to be interested in politics to become a lobbyist? Comment by BARTLEBEE</em> No, he just needs to know which palms to grease in order to ensure gigantic profits for whichever multi-national corporations he is helping to rip off American taxpayers. Trent Lott can help him with that. Wouldn’t Bush need to be interested in politics to become a lobbyist?

Comment by BARTLEBEE

No, he just needs to know which palms to grease in order to ensure gigantic profits for whichever multi-national corporations he is helping to rip off American taxpayers. Trent Lott can help him with that.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-2/#comment-4200476 RUCerious Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:51:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200476 MissMolly, please add the use of signing statements to selectively enforce laws. Thank You. MissMolly, please add the use of signing statements to selectively enforce laws.
Thank You.

]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-2/#comment-4200371 missmolly Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:56:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200371 "There’s no ground for impeachment" Comment by Frank M — December 20, 2007 @ 11:12 am 1) Manipulating intelligence in order to lie to the American people about a threat if Iraqi WMDs, 2) Manipulating intelligence in order to lie to the American people about a relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda, 3) Openly threatening aggression against the Republic of Iran absent any real threat to the United States 4) Obstructing justice with false claims of "executive privilege" (again and again and again), 5) Approaching telecom companies to spy on Americans in direct violation of the fourth amendment with no justification (before 9/11), 6) Ordering torture for interrogation purposes, 7) Ordering the destruction of evidence of illegal torture (CIA tapes) 8) Destroying presidential records in direct violation of the Presidential Records Act, 9) The list goes on and on. There is more than enough slime under the rock to justify investigation and impeachment. Contrast this with the impeachment of Bill Clinton, who was charged (and eventually acquitted) with perjury and obstruction of justice based on misleading statements he made in a sworn deposition about his sex life -- a sworn deposition he should not have to have made, since the case requiring it was eventually thrown out. If you claim that nothing on the above list constitutes grounds to impeach Cheney and/or Bush, then I assume you also claim that there were no grounds to impeach Bill Clinton, either. “There’s no ground for impeachment”

Comment by Frank M — December 20, 2007 @ 11:12 am

1) Manipulating intelligence in order to lie to the American people about a threat if Iraqi WMDs,

2) Manipulating intelligence in order to lie to the American people about a relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda,

3) Openly threatening aggression against the Republic of Iran absent any real threat to the United States

4) Obstructing justice with false claims of “executive privilege” (again and again and again),

5) Approaching telecom companies to spy on Americans in direct violation of the fourth amendment with no justification (before 9/11),

6) Ordering torture for interrogation purposes,

7) Ordering the destruction of evidence of illegal torture (CIA tapes)

8) Destroying presidential records in direct violation of the Presidential Records Act,

9) The list goes on and on.

There is more than enough slime under the rock to justify investigation and impeachment.

Contrast this with the impeachment of Bill Clinton, who was charged (and eventually acquitted) with perjury and obstruction of justice based on misleading statements he made in a sworn deposition about his sex life — a sworn deposition he should not have to have made, since the case requiring it was eventually thrown out.

If you claim that nothing on the above list constitutes grounds to impeach Cheney and/or Bush, then I assume you also claim that there were no grounds to impeach Bill Clinton, either.

]]> By: A Patriot Acting http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-2/#comment-4200328 A Patriot Acting Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:45:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200328 I'd love to know exactly what in Frank M's feeble mind WOULD constitute grounds for impeachment. If flouting the laws you swore to uphold, wiping your ass with the Constitution that you swore to protect was not enough. Let's not forget that he's been listening in on phone/e-mail conversations since FEBRUARY of 2001, had daily briefings AND periodic intel all pointing at an iminent attack by Bin Laden which he chose to ignore. Oh yeah,all that destroyed evidence, yellow cake, "we do not torure" (which Frank M. loves defending as something that needs to be done, regardless of the FACT that it is illegal), destroying the government by filling EVERY position with an underqualified hack at the expense of the American public AND the safety of our soldiers. You get the jist of where I'm going, Frank. No grounds whatsoever. Maybe if Jeff gannon comes forward with a stained blue pantsuit Mr. M. will see the light. I’d love to know exactly what in Frank M’s feeble mind WOULD constitute grounds for impeachment.
If flouting the laws you swore to uphold, wiping your ass with the Constitution that you swore to protect was not enough. Let’s not forget that he’s been listening in on phone/e-mail conversations since FEBRUARY of 2001, had daily briefings AND periodic intel all pointing at an iminent attack by Bin Laden which he chose to ignore. Oh yeah,all that destroyed evidence, yellow cake, “we do not torure” (which Frank M. loves defending as something that needs to be done, regardless of the FACT that it is illegal), destroying the government by filling EVERY position with an underqualified hack at the expense of the American public AND the safety of our soldiers. You get the jist of where I’m going, Frank. No grounds whatsoever. Maybe if Jeff gannon comes forward with a stained blue pantsuit Mr. M. will see the light.

]]> By: mary http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-2/#comment-4200314 mary Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:41:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200314 Then Bush continued, "Nah, I'm just making one of my lame jokes - but I will be one of those 'advisors' at Carlyle Group and make lots of money as a war profiteer like my daddy does! Now THAT is real moolah!" Then Bush continued, “Nah, I’m just making one of my lame jokes – but I will be one of those ‘advisors’ at Carlyle Group and make lots of money as a war profiteer like my daddy does! Now THAT is real moolah!”

]]> By: SP Biloxi http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-2/#comment-4200306 SP Biloxi Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:38:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200306 "Bush considers becoming a lobbyist someday" LOL! And now Bush has another pet project: to become a lobbyist. Someday... Someday either means that you are going to do it or not. Bush doesn't know what he wants because his daddy has bailed him out of every failed pet project that Bush has gotten into. With three failed business on his resume that Daddy Bush had to bail his idiot son out of, I'm sure his daddy will be bail George out of this new 'Alice in Wonderland' pet project. “Bush considers becoming a lobbyist someday” LOL! And now Bush has another pet project: to become a lobbyist. Someday… Someday either means that you are going to do it or not. Bush doesn’t know what he wants because his daddy has bailed him out of every failed pet project that Bush has gotten into. With three failed business on his resume that Daddy Bush had to bail his idiot son out of, I’m sure his daddy will be bail George out of this new ‘Alice in Wonderland’ pet project.

]]> By: tombaker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-2/#comment-4200304 tombaker Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:38:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200304 47&8 - I'll bet even the lobbyists are in agreement on that - they've got a tough row to hoe with reform in place, and no time to waste on anyone who won't/can't get the job done. 47&8 – I’ll bet even the lobbyists are in agreement on that – they’ve got a tough row to hoe with reform in place, and no time to waste on anyone who won’t/can’t get the job done.

]]> By: tombaker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-1/#comment-4200298 tombaker Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:35:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200298 Right - The only reason he agreed to front for the neocons was the promise of spending the rest of his life recreating on the public $. I'm sure he'll hang out with lobbyists, and rub their noses in the fact that he was Prez and they weren't, and they have to go work for $ and he doesn't. Maybe he'll even have a little fun by sic'ing his Secret Service detail on them as a prank, and fart on them while they're held down. That's post-presidentering, deciderer style! Right – The only reason he agreed to front for the neocons was the promise of spending the rest of his life recreating on the public $. I’m sure he’ll hang out with lobbyists, and rub their noses in the fact that he was Prez and they weren’t, and they have to go work for $ and he doesn’t. Maybe he’ll even have a little fun by sic’ing his Secret Service detail on them as a prank, and fart on them while they’re held down. That’s post-presidentering, deciderer style!

]]> By: theswan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-1/#comment-4200297 theswan Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:35:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200297 It isn't enough to be a politician. Being in the political world in America is only a means to higher achievement....the lobbyist. Better teach the kids these highest of moral values. Forget the Lincoln or Washington values. It all for yourself here in America. It isn’t enough to be a politician. Being in the political world in America is only a means to higher achievement….the lobbyist. Better teach the kids these highest of moral values. Forget the Lincoln or Washington values. It all for yourself here in America.

]]> By: Coffins Draped with a Flag http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-1/#comment-4200283 Coffins Draped with a Flag Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:29:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200283 George W Bush has the "Sadim touch". That's Midas spelled backwards and means that everything that Bush touches turns to shit. You understood the comment correctly, Zimzone. George W Bush has the “Sadim touch”. That’s Midas spelled backwards and means that everything that Bush touches turns to shit. You understood the comment correctly, Zimzone.

]]> By: Zimzone http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-1/#comment-4200258 Zimzone Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:20:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200258 That’s great news. He can destroy the lobbying business just like he destroyed everything else that he touches. This would be good for the American people. -Comment by Coffins Draped with a Flag <em>Yes, he does have the 'King George Touch', doesn't he? Unfortunately, everything he touched turns to shit instead of gold.</em> That’s great news. He can destroy the lobbying business just like he destroyed everything else that he touches. This would be good for the American people. -Comment by Coffins Draped with a Flag

Yes, he does have the ‘King George Touch’, doesn’t he?
Unfortunately, everything he touched turns to shit instead of gold.

]]> By: Coffins Draped with a Flag http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-1/#comment-4200254 Coffins Draped with a Flag Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:18:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200254 That's great news. He can destroy the lobbying business just like he destroyed everything else that he touches. This would be good for the American people. That’s great news. He can destroy the lobbying business just like he destroyed everything else that he touches. This would be good for the American people.

]]> By: po http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-1/#comment-4200253 po Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:17:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200253 Frank, we meet here as well. HOw do you know there are no grounds for impeachment. Seems most of the evidence is being represented as having been deleted or destroyed. In judicial circles, this means it is perfectly ok to draw a negative inference from the destruction and conclude that the information would have contained evidence of wrongdoing. On that basis alone, impeachment hearings could (and should) be brought. With this in mind, I have one question for you: If Hillary is elected will you mind her administration doing as W and Cheney's has? Be truthful. Frank, we meet here as well. HOw do you know there are no grounds for impeachment. Seems most of the evidence is being represented as having been deleted or destroyed. In judicial circles, this means it is perfectly ok to draw a negative inference from the destruction and conclude that the information would have contained evidence of wrongdoing. On that basis alone, impeachment hearings could (and should) be brought.

With this in mind, I have one question for you: If Hillary is elected will you mind her administration doing as W and Cheney’s has? Be truthful.

]]> By: shoeless http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-1/#comment-4200251 shoeless Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:17:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200251 <em>There’s no ground for impeachment... Comment by Frank M</em> What? Is treason no longer grounds for impeachment? There’s no ground for impeachment…

Comment by Frank M

What? Is treason no longer grounds for impeachment?

]]> By: Bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-1/#comment-4200249 Bob Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:16:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200249 I've always pictured him as a used car salesman, '70s style, with the thick loud tie to go with the bourbon induced loud attitude. The joke's on us. He'll be doing nothing on the great lifelong pension we supply, found guilty of all the crimes or not. I’ve always pictured him as a used car salesman, ’70s style, with the thick loud tie to go with the bourbon induced loud attitude.

The joke’s on us. He’ll be doing nothing on the great lifelong pension we supply, found guilty of all the crimes or not.

]]> By: DieNowForPeace http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/comment-page-1/#comment-4200247 DieNowForPeace Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:16:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/12/20/bush-considers-becoming-a-lobbyist-someday/#comment-4200247 Frank M Laden, thank you for 9/11. Frank M Laden, thank you for 9/11.

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