Former President Bill Clinton recently stated that in a new Clinton administration, he and former President George H. W. Bush would travel around the world together to help improve the international reputation of the United States. In his press conference today, President Bush said he already does this in his current job:
It’s what I do during my presidency. I go around spreading good will, talking about the importance of spreading freedom and peace.
Watch it:
A look at the good will Bush has been spreading:

Spreading “good will”… that’s a new name for it.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:41 amChuckes, the Clown Prince, speaking after a half a fifth of Smirnoff…
December 20th, 2007 at 11:42 amIs this a lie, or a delusion.
History graduate students will debate this for… well, mainly at keggers.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:42 amAm I the only one sitting here shaking his head in complete disbelief?
December 20th, 2007 at 11:43 amhe’s definitely back on the sauce.
that’s hilarious.
maybe next he’ll tell us about the Nobel Prize he won, or how he invented beef jerky and got A’s in calculus.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:43 amLakota Indians declared Independence from US and break treaties:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317548,00.html
If I were President Bush, I would immediately send in the feds to arrest the Lakota leaders who did this, then help the remaining people establish a democratic government within their borders, that adheres to the treaties with the US.
It is untenable to have any entity within the contiguous 48 states that negotiates directly with foreign countries, end of story.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:43 am“I spread little cluster bombs of good will everywhere I go.”
Has there been a person in recent history that has spread more ill will and hatred than this dipshit?
December 20th, 2007 at 11:44 amFirst I’ll start by screwing the poor
December 20th, 2007 at 11:44 amThis comment is just one more example of what he really goes around the world spreading . . . manure.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:44 amIronically, that is exactly what a cockroach is thinking when it lays eggs.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:45 amIt’s what I do during my presidency. I go around spreading good will, talking about the importance of spreading freedom and peace
You may talk, but you fail to act in accordance, Dumbya.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:45 amI think by “spread good will”, He means cluster bombs. That’s what they’re calling them these days. Otehrwise, Cheney would never have a chance to spread good will.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:46 amhttp://www.tshirtinsurgency.com
Do you think that he actually believes the crappola that he spews?
December 20th, 2007 at 11:48 am(please ignore mr. off-topic, as usual, and flag the post for abuse)
THAT’S WHAT OPEN THREADS ARE FOR, RETARD.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:48 am6= JMH, regretting his forefathers’ failure to completely exterminate the continent’s indigenous inhabitants back when they could’ve gotten away with it. THAT is what the Christmas season is really all about, right J? After all, it’s not like the U.S. ever violated any Indian Treaties.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:49 amIt’s actually it’s the Left that travels the world encouraging people to hate America. Noam Chomsky has spent more than a generation visiting various countries across the globe and lecturing them on the evils of America. Michael Moore, like Chomsky, has made himself rich spreading anti-Americanism. Same goes for Howard Zinn and countless others.
Since the 1960s the Left has made a mini-industry out of selling anti-Americanism abroad.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:49 am(please ignore mr. off-topic, as usual, and flag the post for abuse)
THAT’S WHAT OPEN THREADS ARE FOR, RETARD.
Comment by DieNowForPeace — December 20, 2007 @ 11:48 am
Indeed. So far, it seems to be working.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:49 am“Good Will is, of course, my SECRET CODE NAME for the big-ass bombs we shock an’ awe ‘em with! Heh heh….”
December 20th, 2007 at 11:49 amHmmm. I didn’t know you could “spread good will” with bombs.
Heiluva job, Chimpy.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:49 amIt’s what I do during my presidency. I go around spreading good will
Well, Dubya is spreading something all right, but it ain’t “good will”, unless “good will” rhymes with lanure.
Oh, and can someone please enlighten our 40 year old virgin, JMH, about “staying on topic”, or at least direct Mr. Ivy League, Stanford boy to the Think Fast thread???
December 20th, 2007 at 11:51 amCharlie - that’s the most idiotic comment you’ve made to date. *WE* haven’t had to sell any sort of anti-American sentiment - Dubbie’s been giving it away free for YEARS.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:52 amLike when he gave the Chancellor Angela Merkel a shoulder massage!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dfrHT8o-0A
December 20th, 2007 at 11:52 am“I go around spreading good will” - ONE MILLION dead Iraqi’s and FOUR THOUSAND dead American soldiers and TENS OF THOUSANDS of displaced New Orleanians and TENS OF THOUSANDS of unemployed AND TWENTY FOUR MILLION uninsured would disagree with you.
Bush/Cheney
Hague Trials ‘09
Buck Fush
December 20th, 2007 at 11:53 amSince the 1960s the Left has made a mini-industry out of selling anti-Americanism abroad.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 20, 2007 @ 11:49 am
Actually, we don’t need to. Clowns like you are great set-up men.
Let’s see… Chomsky sez America isn’t always a nice place…
BruschCo kills a million Iraqis for a lie…
Yep, it’s gotta be Chomsky’s fault if America’s unpopular.
Sheez…. **eye roll**
December 20th, 2007 at 11:53 amSince the 1960s the Left has made a mini-industry out of selling anti-Americanism abroad.
Comment by Charles James Napier
Well, that’s what great entrepreneurs are all about, exploiting an economy created by others(Neocons). With all the bad blood the CIA has created, there’s just too much potential profit to ignore.
Why do you hate progress and globalization and free market economies?
December 20th, 2007 at 11:53 amSince the 1960s the Left has made a mini-industry out of selling anti-Americanism abroad.
Comment by Charles James Napier Riley — December 20, 2007 @ 11:49 am
You get my vote for the lamest and dumbest off topic post…ever!
December 20th, 2007 at 11:53 amAnd the fools soak up the sputum.
The Elder Bush never talked to either of the Clinton’s about such a stupid idea and doesn’t support it anyway.
Dopes.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:54 amWhy do you hate progress and globalization and free market economies?
Comment by DieNowForPeace
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I don’t.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:54 am“Am I the only one sitting here shaking his head in complete disbelief?’
Comment by Blue Stater — December 20, 2007 @ 11:43 am
No, I’m right there with you!
Spreading good will is that the new name for Shock and Awe?
December 20th, 2007 at 11:55 amGood will? More like Goodwill. Bush wore out this country and is now dropping off the wreck for someone else to try to repair and resell.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:55 amLove to stay and chat with all you loons but I have too much to get done today.
Keep frothing!
December 20th, 2007 at 11:56 amI think Charles is going to stick to his “my country, right or wrong” guns, which is too bad, for a smart guy like him.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:56 amWe elected Dubya 16 years too late.
He is a master in doublespeak.
He is very much double plus ungood
December 20th, 2007 at 11:57 amComment by Buckie Boy — December 20, 2007 @ 11:53 am
You forgot about all the dead Afghanis. Oh wait, they are victims of the “Good War” that the lefties profess to support.
Liberal warmongers.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:57 amJayJay, where in this thread did you see Lakota Indians mention? Because I’ve read it 10 times looking for the reference an can’t seem to find it you off topic ignoramus.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:57 amReminds me of Ronnie Raygun’s bombs called “The Peacemaker”.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:58 amMythical Bullsh*tter.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:58 amThis is such a laughable statement from Dubya that I am truly stumped for a witty response.
I mean — what could top this?
December 20th, 2007 at 11:59 am“Am I the only one sitting here shaking his head in complete disbelief?’
Comment by Blue Stater — December 20, 2007 @ 11:43 am
No, you are not alone in believing that Clinton was being truthful when he made that statement.
Dopes.
December 20th, 2007 at 11:59 amWhat can be said about Bush? The man’s like a plague. And his destruction will last well past his presidency.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:00 pmFitting handle, minotaur - a mythical beast for a mythical ideology.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:00 pmand, just as an FYI about the Lakota nations…. the ‘leaders’ quoted in the article are not the elected leaders of the Lakota nation (s) and so are not speaking for the Lakota Nation.
So to use their position to justify any sort of rant flies in the face of the democratically elected government of the Lakota people. And we all know how much our present government honors the wishes of all the democratically elected governments it has dealings with…
oh hell… I better call my friends in South Dakota and tell them to hunker down for more shock and awe….
December 20th, 2007 at 12:00 pmWell, he sure as hell haven’t been spreading peace on earth.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:01 pmSince the 1960s the Left has made a mini-industry out of selling anti-Americanism abroad.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 20, 2007 @ 11:49 am
Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn were respononsible for “shock and Awe”?
Why do you hate progress and globalization and free market economies?
Comment by DieNowForPeace
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I don’t.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 20, 2007 @ 11:54 am
Well, you must if you’re still sniffing Bush’s ass. Do you think the latest Energy Bill has anything whatsoever to do with Free Markets?
What you hate and fear is Freedom of Speech, and spreading democracy by any means other than bombing brown women and children to smithereens. Moore, Chomsky and Zinn have made many friends for real American values, while Republicans destroy infrastructure, governments and economies that threaten the fat pigs of American business. You’re especially fact-free this morning, Chuckles, you sound like you’re getting rather desperate as your Republican field of perverts, cross-dressers, cultists and flip-floppers gets shot down in flames every time they appear.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:01 pmThe Elder Bush never talked to either of the Clinton’s about such a stupid idea and doesn’t support it anyway.
Dopes.
Comment by Minotaur — December 20, 2007 @ 11:54 am
We are aware of that fact doper and that isn’t the topic of the thread is it? Try reading
December 20th, 2007 at 12:01 pms l o w e r.
Could we please keep this on topic? Stop encouraging the trolls.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:02 pmThe Elder Bush never talked to either of the Clinton’s about such a stupid idea and doesn’t support it anyway.
Dopes.
Comment by Minotaur — December 20, 2007 @ 11:54 am
And you know this — how?
Bill Clinton and Bush 41 have ALREADY teamed up and have been doing this very thing — starting in the wake (no pun intended) of the Indian Ocean tsunami and its widespread destruction. Furthermore, they have shown that they work very well together in pursuit of a worthy common goal. There’s no reason why they wouldn’t continue this under the next administration if that’s what the new president wants.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:02 pmDopes.
Comment by Minotaur — December 20, 2007 @ 11:59 am
Clinton did it? wow, you’re the dope. sounds like you rightards are running out of drugs; back to the bathtub with y8ou.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:03 pmYou forgot about all the dead Afghanis. Oh wait, they are victims of the “Good War†that the lefties profess to support.
Liberal warmongers.
Comment by Minotaur — December 20, 2007 @ 11:57 am
Read the thread doper. It is W who forgets about the dead bodies strewn across the ME.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:03 pmYou want to spread some good will, Georgie? Why don’t you try to shove a whole box of pretzels down your throat? Or even better how ’bout a murder suicide pact with your crooked miser of a VP ?
December 20th, 2007 at 12:03 pmMy favorite part was when he called our NATO allies in Afghanistan “shooters.” What a worldview.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:04 pmHello I’m Minotaur and I am a complete idiot, I think Dems can’t think for themselves like me and they don’t think the war on Afghanistan was justified, so I am gonna make stupid comments all day today. Please Dems look at me I am smart and important, please.
You’re an idiot, cowman.
Buck Fush
December 20th, 2007 at 12:05 pmBush’s asinine statement, along with his other past dubious declarations, should be grounds for Article XXV-the Disability clause of the Constitution-to be invoked. But that would be contingent upon the president sending to the President of the Senate and to the Speaker of the House “… a written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office…” Unfortunately, it is highly unlikely that Bush will acknowledge to Congress that he is mentally unfit to continue to serve as president of the United States.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:08 pmWe are aware of that fact doper and that isn’t the topic of the thread is it? Try reading
s l o w e r.
Comment by Shayne — December 20, 2007 @ 12:01 pm
The first sentence contains a lie, you do understand that, don’t you pinhead?
December 20th, 2007 at 12:10 pmWhat Bush HAS been spreading around smells bad, especially on a hot summer day, and could fertilize Arabia.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:11 pmRead the thread doper. It is W who forgets about the dead bodies strewn across the ME.
Comment by Shayne — December 20, 2007 @ 12:03 pm
Then how do you explain the dems supporting such monstrous activities as strewing dead bodies across the middle east? Poor Afghanis, why oh why do the libs support their slaughter?
December 20th, 2007 at 12:12 pmFlag and ignore.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:14 pmDid anyone have the stomach to view the clip? How did the automoton press corps react to this absurd statement? One would hope the room would erupt with….something!
December 20th, 2007 at 12:14 pmThe first sentence contains a lie, you do understand that, don’t you pinhead?
Comment by Minotaur — December 20, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
Actually, minibrain, it isn’t a lie. GHW Bush has already done this kind of work with Clinton, and the fact that he is senile and a Republican liar is the reason he forgot his committment to clean up after his jibbering chimp of a son. Bush is a liar, that’s proven beyond doubt. All Bushes, in fact. You’re just the typical brainless little nazi asskisser they need you to be to continue their treason.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:14 pmAnd you know this — how?
Comment by missmolly — December 20, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
‘In a statement sent to CNN Tuesday afternoon, former President Bush’s chief of staff Jean Becker said that he “wholeheartedly supports the President of the United States, including his foreign policy. He has never discussed an ‘around-the-world-mission’ with either former President Bill Clinton or Sen. Clinton, nor does he think such a mission is warranted since he is proud of the role America continues to play around the world as the beacon of hope for freedom and democracy.”
December 20th, 2007 at 12:15 pmThen how do you explain the dems supporting such monstrous activities as strewing dead bodies across the middle east? Poor Afghanis, why oh why do the libs support their slaughter?
Comment by Minotaur — December 20, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
Wow, Nazi, you sure di lie big when you lie. Congratulations, we’ll need to have a Himmler Award made up for you.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:15 pmIn a statement sent to CNN Tuesday afternoon, former President Bush’s chief of staff Jean Becker said that he “wholeheartedly supports the President of the United States, including his foreign policy. He has never discussed an ‘around-the-world-mission’ with either former President Bill Clinton or Sen. Clinton, nor does he think such a mission is warranted since he is proud of the role America continues to play around the world as the beacon of hope for freedom and democracy.â€
Comment by Minotaur — December 20, 2007 @ 12:15 pm
Republicans have a very polished lie machine; you should be proud.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:16 pmThen how do you explain the dems supporting such monstrous activities as strewing dead bodies across the middle east? Poor Afghanis, why oh why do the libs support their slaughter?
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Most of us were for Afghanistan because we thought the rocket surgeon in the WH was actually going to follow through on his promise of getting Osama.
Also at that point we really had no idea what kind of complete monster was running our country.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:16 pmLeave it to a Bush to pretend to refuse to help patriotic Americans clean up the mess made by his family. Lower than snakeshit, that family.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:17 pmAh our masochist du jour apparently wants/needs some well-deserved abuse!
I wonder if his mama neglected him as a child.
Back to Bush and this goodwill Bush says he’s spreading - is that a new STD?
December 20th, 2007 at 12:17 pmComment by Lefty Patriot — December 20, 2007 @ 12:14 pm
Nope, it is a lie and Elder Bush has refuted the statement as such.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:18 pmMost of us were for Afghanistan because we thought the rocket surgeon in the WH was actually going to follow through on his promise of getting Osama.
Also at that point we really had no idea what kind of complete monster was running our country.
Comment by deebaser — December 20, 2007 @ 12:16 pm
Disgraceful that you would support the invasion and occupation of a sovereign nation. Look at all those strewn bodies!
December 20th, 2007 at 12:20 pmThe Chimp’s goodwill is like bubonic plague, there are very few beneficiaries of either. In Bush’s case, the beneficiaries are the jihadists who have seen recruitment soar and the war profiteers the likes of Halliburton, the beneficiaries of the pague were bottle fly larvae and buzzards.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:20 pmMino would also ask why D’s decline to reach across the aisle….the reason - d*ckheads like him will bite your hand if you do. get bent, bullbeast.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:20 pmSo, if we had a working press, a logical follow-up question would have been: If that is what you do, Mr. President, then why are you such an abject failure at it?
December 20th, 2007 at 12:21 pmRepublicans have a very polished lie machine; you should be proud.
Comment by Lefty Patriot — December 20, 2007 @ 12:16 pm
Ah, well at least you have made things easy for yourself; just say that everything you don’t agree with is a lie and move along.
Heh, dope.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:22 pmWho is this guy named Will that Bush has been spreading?
December 20th, 2007 at 12:22 pmGood will, Mr. Bush? Lies, torture, treason, tyranny, stolen elections, corporate greed, fascism, bullying, cronyism, you call that “good will?” Excuse me, sir, but you are living on Planet Dingdong…
December 20th, 2007 at 12:22 pmMino would also ask why D’s decline to reach across the aisle….the reason - d*ckheads like him will bite your hand if you do. get bent, bullbeast.
Comment by tombaker — December 20, 2007 @ 12:20 pm
Bullshat, tim. The dems had the chance to wind down the war through reduced funding earlier in the year when several repubs would have sided with them. Instead the dems went on a scorched earth campaign with Reid denigrating everyone in sight and pulling stupid stunts like his senate slumber party.
The dems are getting their azzes kicked by a guy whose numbers dwell in the low 30’s. How does that feel? Dopes.
hehehehehe
December 20th, 2007 at 12:25 pmBush: ‘I go around spreading good will.’
I find it amazing he tongue does not catch fire every time his mouth opens.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:25 pmI hate to break the news to Dubya and the other clowns, but we judge you by your actions, not by what you say.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:26 pmEnough of the revisionist history.
Bush is living in a fantasy world. I think it is dangerous to have a president so out of touch with not only the people of the country he is supposed to be running, but also with reality. Can we just get him declared insane, impeach Cheney, and end the insanity?
December 20th, 2007 at 12:27 pmsome pretty pissed off troll(s) around here today. i see chuck bailed out early. couldn’t take the heat i guess.
must of hit a nerve with these guys.
let’s keep hitting it.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:35 pmThe first sentence contains a lie, you do understand that, don’t you pinhead?
Comment by Minotaur — December 20, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
Yes WE KNOW THAT, again. But the tropic of the thread is not what Clinton said but what Bush said. Do you UNDERSTAND?
December 20th, 2007 at 12:37 pmThen how do you explain the dems supporting such monstrous activities as strewing dead bodies across the middle east? Poor Afghanis, why oh why do the libs support their slaughter?
Comment by Minotaur — December 20, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
I guess you are just like your hero Bush and have forgotten all about Osama bin Laden. You sycophants make it so easy for him don’t you.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:38 pmIt’s what I do during my presidency. I go around spreading good will, talking about the importance of spreading freedom and peace.
Sure, Stalin was spreading the good of Lenin communism through out the Soviet Union, Poland, Rumania and Czechkoslovakia.
Pinochet was saving the country from monstrous, democratic elected socialist.
Hitler was spreading the virtue of Christianism and the language of Goethe to Euroasia.
Al-Qaeda is spreading the will of Allah and cleansing the Earth of infidels.
Sure, Bush. Whatever saves you a bottle of pills so you can sleep at night, murderer.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:39 pm“Bush: ‘I go around spreading good will.’”
And you are doing one heckava job at it. The freedom and democracy in this country give us all a tingling in our loins, Georgie.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:39 pmhehehehehe
Comment by Minotaur
That must be the same laugh that OBL is having in some Wahabbite party in some cave.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:40 pmI guess you are just like your hero Bush and have forgotten all about Osama bin Laden. You sycophants make it so easy for him don’t you.
Comment by Shayne — December 20, 2007 @ 12:38 pm
Tell that to all the dead Afghanis who were killed during our invasion and occupation of their country. Don’t you know that plain ol’ good police work could have taken care of OBL?
Nice to know you support death of innocents in an attempt to track down one guy.
Liberal warmonger.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:41 pmThe first sentence contains a lie, you do understand that, don’t you pinhead?
Comment by Minotaur
Nobody cares. Your president is the biggest idiot in the planet. Keep it on.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:41 pmThat must be the same laugh that OBL is having in some Wahabbite party in some cave.
Comment by Juan C. — December 20, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
“Cave” being the operative word in the sentence.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:42 pmNobody cares. Your president is the biggest idiot in the planet. Keep it on.
Comment by Juan C. — December 20, 2007 @ 12:41 pm
“In” the planet? Pot.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:44 pmIs that Ari Fleischer Asking Bush a question?
December 20th, 2007 at 12:44 pm“Cave†being the operative word in the sentence.
Comment by Minotaur
Yeah, it shows how isolated he was…
December 20th, 2007 at 12:44 pmUh, I made a grammar mistake, the thread idiot insulted me…I feel so bad.
Keep looking for WMDs.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:45 pmYeah, it shows how isolated he was…
Comment by Juan C. — December 20, 2007 @ 12:44 pm
I would say living in a cave in the mountains is probably pretty isolated and not the grand party that idiots like you think it is.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:46 pmComment by Juan C. — December 20, 2007 @ 12:45 pm
Nah, you make many mistakes and trying to point out all of them would crash the server; I have to meter them.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:47 pmNice to know you support death of innocents in an attempt to track down one guy.
Liberal warmonger.
Comment by Minotaur — December 20, 2007 @ 12:41 pm
OK you’re right Bush killed innocents in Afghanistan and many more in Iraq. How is that spreading good will again, d*ck?
December 20th, 2007 at 12:48 pmSome presidents spread goodwill where ever they go.
Others spread goodwill when ever they go.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:48 pmComment by Minotaur — December 20, 2007 @ 12:44 pm
Really is quite a battle as to who is the dumbest, most bigoted, idiotic troll. I sort of forgot about Minotaur, making a valiant effort to close out the year on top I see.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:49 pmWhatever.
On topic:
talking about the importance of spreading freedom and peace.
That’s funny. I thought the UN Charter explicitly forbids the use of force or even the threat to use it against another country.
So, what kind of peace and freedom is he talking about? In that sense, 9/11 planes were pacifying New York.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:52 pmmust of hit a nerve with these guys.
let’s keep hitting it.
Comment by joe cantwell — December 20, 2007 @ 12:35 pm
20 lb sledge hammers available on request.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:53 pmOK you’re right Bush killed innocents in Afghanistan and many more in Iraq. How is that spreading good will again, d*ck?
Comment by Shayne — December 20, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
Finally. Now we need to get all those dems who supported action in Afghanistan to renege on that support and condemn our actions there. You should be knocking down your congresswoman’s door (Pelosi) and get her going on this.
I fully expect more threads here at TP condemning the Afghan war also.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:54 pmReally is quite a battle as to who is the dumbest, most bigoted, idiotic troll. I sort of forgot about Minotaur, making a valiant effort to close out the year on top I see.
Comment by Blue Stater — December 20, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
Yah, but your lead is just too great to overcome. You can skate until the end, confident in your victory.
Congrats, dopey, you are the champ.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:55 pmIt is untenable to have any entity within the contiguous 48 states that negotiates directly with foreign countries, end of story. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — December 20, 2007 @ 11:43 am
Senator Frank Lautenberg climbed onboard the investigation of Cheney when Dick ran Halliburton. Saying how Cheney in the mid nineties set up a nice “mail drop” address for Halliburton in the Caymen Islands with no office and no employees so he could funnel his business with Iran’s oil company Kala Limited through this bogus address, or through the Dubai office. This was set up in response to dealing with a country that our USA had deemed was worthy of sanctions for their terror activity.
Good luck with that Jason. Now stay on topic.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:55 pmDecember 20th, 2007 at 12:56 pm
Comment by Minotaur — December 20, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
(shakes head)
What a predictable idiot.
December 20th, 2007 at 12:57 pmJason M. Hendler - Question: Where Are They Hiding Geronimo’s Skull?
December 20th, 2007 at 12:59 pmOur name, our reputation, our dollar, our economy have all been tarnished under the ‘restoring honor’ fake Christians with their feigned crys of moral majority and value voter euphemisms created by a political hack to fool people into voting for the culture of corruption.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:02 pmHey girls, I gotta go (no crying now, I’ll be back later to further school you in current events and other subjects).
Ciao, ladies.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:02 pmHeck of a job you’ve done there Bush.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:02 pmEvilPoet, the First Nations seem to have had enoug of this sh*t as well.
Let’s move to Dakota!
December 20th, 2007 at 1:03 pmCaption Contest: Look, Photo-ops are good will, see, people get to shake my hand…except that Abramoff guy that photo-shopped me into his picture.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:04 pmComment by Minotaur
Mr Pee is on a meth binge again……
December 20th, 2007 at 1:04 pmCiao, ladies.
Comment by Minotaur — December 20, 2007 @ 1:02 pm
Whatever “Michael”
December 20th, 2007 at 1:05 pmHey girls, I gotta go (no crying now, I’ll be back later to further school you in current events and other subjects).
Ciao, ladies.
Comment by Minotaur — December 20, 2007 @ 1:02 pm
Please save your LOVE LETTERS to the other IGNORANT and UNINFORMED GOP TROLLS for the MENS ROOM there - CRAIG!!! ROTFL!!! ;)
December 20th, 2007 at 1:08 pmThe polling data mostly contradicts that the notion that the U.S. is suffering in worldwide opinion.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 20, 2007 @ 1:03 pm
If you IGNORE how much damaged has been done to our image in the last 7years maybe!!! ROTFL!! By SUFFERING you mean GETTING WORSE THAN IT ALREADY IS? Bush’s approval rating has remained at 28% for YEARS now - does that mean HIS REPUTATION isn’t SUFFERING? ROTFL!!! You ‘tards are the stupidest little girls!
December 20th, 2007 at 1:10 pmThe polling data mostly contradicts that the notion that the U.S. is suffering in worldwide opinion.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 20, 2007 @ 1:03 pm
I suppose it all depends on which poll and what you carry away from it.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:25 pmYep. I was all full of that good will and holiday cheer when SS told me I was getting a whole $10 more a month this year, less the increase in medicare.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:26 pmTis the season to be jolly.
Ah, stuff it.
Then I took the respondents that said ‘yes’ and made the headline:
“XX% of people question Al Gore’s position on Global Warmingâ€
Do you think that would be a fair assessment of what people really believe?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 20, 2007 @ 1:12 pm
ROTFL!!! Your CONFLATION and ACCUSATIONS ARE HYSTERICAL THERE , LITTLE GIRL!!!
Maybe you should ask the CHORUS OF BOOS from the UN meeting in Bali - AIMED AT YOU GUYS as your CUE to how this question might get answered.
A more appropriate question would be “do you believe the US has shown a complete lack of leadership on the issue of Climate Change”. It would show the US is JUST AS UNPOPULAR on the environment front, as it is on EVERY OTHER FRONT, thanks to CLUELESS DIM BULBS (but not energy saving ones) like YOU!!! ROTFL!! ;)
December 20th, 2007 at 1:27 pm“XX% of people question Al Gore’s position on Global Warmingâ€
Do you think that would be a fair assessment of what people really believe?
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 20, 2007 @ 1:12 pm
Sheesh - you people just can’t wait for an opportunity to bash Al Gore, can you? You could at least wait till the next Climate Change thread.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:28 pmReally is quite a battle as to who is the dumbest, most bigoted, idiotic troll. I sort of forgot about Minotaur, making a valiant effort to close out the year on top I see.
Comment by Blue Stater — December 20, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
Yah, but your lead is just too great to overcome. You can skate until the end, confident in your victory.
Congrats, dopey, you are the champ.
Comment by Minotaur — December 20, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
Whatever, 24%er. Maybe you should stop being scared and actually leave your sad little county in whatever state you reside and travel some, see some more of this world. It really would help your sad, bitter outlook.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:29 pm“Is Al Gore hypocritical for promoting environmentalism at the same time he owns 4 homes (that use 10 times the energy as average Americans) and flies all over the world in private jets?†Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 20, 2007 @ 1:03 pm
But see that question is predicated on the belief that people that are rich, or that fly, can’t help fight global warming! Only a ‘tard’ would ‘ask’ that SPECIFIC question. A ‘tard that was TRYING TO SMEAR instead of TRYING TO GAUGE OPINION…. ROTFL you’re a stupid little girl!
December 20th, 2007 at 1:30 pmNote to Napier and trolls,
What do you think influences foreigners’ opinion of the US more—-WORDS by Bush, Chomsky, Moore, and Zinn or the US ACTIONS as an emperial power killing millions all around the globe in trying to control more territory and take their resources; overthrowing democratic governments in Iran, Guatemala, Chile, Nicaragua, etc.; backing right-wing dictators and death squads who butcher countless women and children, kill bishops and rape nuns? I know that people judge us by our actions and not our rhetoric from left or right.
We killed half a million Filipinos, three million in IndoChina, nearly a million in South America, and over one million in Iraq. We have 750 bases in 130 countries. We spend about $900 billion every year on war. We want to control every inch of the planet, plus space. Foreigners know this. They don’t believe rhetoric from either direction.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:30 pmSheesh - you people just can’t wait for an opportunity to bash Al Gore, can you? You could at least wait till the next Climate Change thread.
Comment by toasterhead — December 20, 2007 @ 1:28 pm
Al reminds them of the GUILT they have in producing the FIRST COUP in American history! It’s their OWN SELF LOATHING that makes them hate him.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:31 pmCaptain -
You are being deliberately deceitful. The question you present gives NO examples of US as a policeman, yet your hypothetical DOES. Apparently unknown to you, this kind of deceit undermines your argument. Please try again.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:31 pmI fully expect more threads here at TP condemning the Afghan war also.
Comment by Minotaur — December 20, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
We can support the objectives (overthrowing the Taliban, capturing and trying al-Qa’ida members, building Afghanistan into a viable state) and still criticize the conduct.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:35 pmAl reminds them of the GUILT they have in producing the FIRST COUP in American history! It’s their OWN SELF LOATHING that makes them hate him.
Comment by republicans hate facts — December 20, 2007 @ 1:31 pm
Guilt? Self-loathing? You’re assuming that conservatives are capable of human emotions. I’m not ready to make that assumption yet.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:37 pmAfghanistan was a viable state before the US began supporting the radical Islamists. Reagan, GHWBush, The CIA, Pakistan (ISI), and Saudi Arabia.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:38 pmAfghanistan was a viable state before the US began supporting the radical Islamists. Reagan, GHWBush, The CIA, Pakistan (ISI), and Saudi Arabia.
Comment by Keith — December 20, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
To be fair, the Soviets did play a pretty significant role, too.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:41 pmThis is all very simple.
It’s either time for another Grand Tea Party leading to a revolution without arms with millions of people in the streets screaming…..
” I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore ”
OR
everyone will go back to their keyboard and armchair and squeal about how ridiculous it all is.
How much you want to bet the lazy Americans will choose door #2??
December 20th, 2007 at 1:42 pmFrom Bush’ own mouth today:
“How do you intend to get advice from people you surround yourself with…and what process will you have in place to ensure that you get the unvarnished opinion of advisers?” he asked. “Because whoever sits in that Oval Office is going to find this is a complex world…”
hindsight is 20/20. Foresight was never his strong suit. I’ve got news for Bush, those who don’t sit in the Oval Office understand it’s a complex world.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:42 pmROTFL you’re a stupid little girl!
Comment by republicans hate facts — December 20, 2007 @ 1:30 pm
Now, now — no need to insult females…;-)
December 20th, 2007 at 1:45 pmMy comment about a Tea Party is meant to stir the emotions of the DINOsaurs who somehow keep thinking hope is a method.
Have you noticed that in other banana republics it is when the people have gotten into the streets in overwhelming numbers that the dictators in chief start to listen.
ANyone who stillbelieves that an election held to elect corporate whores will get us anyplace different than spreading more “goodwill” around in the form of carbon emissions, low wages, torture and the like seem to not read or listen to the reality of todays’ news.
It’s either time to step up to the plate and stand up and out in the streets of your hometown or be fine with what is destined to come down the pike.
And if any of you out there think any of the top tier corporate funded Dem candidates are that different there is some land about to be underwater down here in Florida I can sell you real cheap.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:50 pmthose who don’t sit in the Oval Office understand it’s a complex world.
Comment by hellinabucket — December 20, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
The real problem here, is Bush doesn’t really want to be president anymore. Look at how many references he has made to how great it will be in his post presidency. The guy is and has been bored with the job for a while. I can’t really blame him for that. I mean nothing has really worked out the way he wanted it. Afghanistan? Taliban resurging, Iraq, big fugly mess. Social Security, stopped on that one. Pretty much the only thing he has done is tax cuts, and he can’t seem to make those permanent.
December 20th, 2007 at 1:53 pmYou may be in a hurry to transfer wealth from the U.S. to the third world for a trumped up theory of man made climate change, but I am not.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — December 20, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
And why not? You’re in no hurry to transfer wealth from the U.S. to the third world in exchange for oil, textiles, electronics, toys, commodities, and other consumer goods — the manufacture and transportation of which are a huge contributor to man-made climate change, I might add.
December 20th, 2007 at 2:24 pmI can’t come up with anything snarky enough to reply to this.
December 20th, 2007 at 2:48 pmWe killed half a million Filipinos, three million in IndoChina, nearly a million in South America, and over one million in Iraq…….. We spend about $900 billion every year on war. We want to control every inch of the planet, plus space.
Comment by Keith
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What utter rubbish.
December 20th, 2007 at 2:49 pmEvery time Bush opens his mouth, utters a sound it is more comedy entertainment sounds to use by Mike Malloy, Randi Rhodes, Sam Seder and others.
December 20th, 2007 at 2:49 pmFreedom and peace . . sure thing pigsh!t.
December 20th, 2007 at 2:57 pmEvery single warmongering SOB says exactly the same thing.
That they’re killing in the name of freedom, peace and democracy.
“In your rush to be considered a do-gooder, you have resisted any objective review of Al Gore’s claims, and you have dismissed the huge economic costs that would occur.”
Yeah, can’t be wasting good money on something like ensuring my kids and future grandchildren don’t have to take an oxygen tank with them just to go to the park.
We have other priorities to waste money on:
http://nationalpriorities.org/cms/costofwar
And I also can’t believe that Al Gore still uses a jet airplane. If he was so smart, you’d think he would have invented a matter-antimatter powered transporter by now.
Or a TARDIS to go back in time.
You’d think.
December 20th, 2007 at 3:04 pmbush dictionary: good will: “shock and awe”, “AbuGraid”, “water-boarding”, “genocide”, “gang-rape”, “Blackwater”
also see: tyranny, imperialism, war-mongering, war-profiteering
December 20th, 2007 at 3:46 pmBush vetos SCHIP expansion and give 14 billion to oil companies, this guy is cartoonishly evil….dems in the senate aren’t doing their jobs.
December 20th, 2007 at 3:51 pmCaptain,
Naw, I love my kids too much.
Though it would be a nice bit of revenge for the stress they cause my wife to have.
December 20th, 2007 at 4:06 pmNever before has a President and Vice President deserved to be impeached more than these.
Yet our Speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, is working behind the scenes with House Democrats, not to build a consensus for impeachment, but to do just the opposite: to keep others from succeeding in their effort to hold this president accountable by means of impeachment.
With the FISA bill still looming in the Senate, and a new war funding bill passed with no structure in place to Bring our Troops Home, we have to show the leaders of the House and Senate that this is still our country.
Please read the petition to replace Pelosi with a Democratic Representative who will bring impeachment proceedings to the floor. A Question of Privilege under House Rules IX can declare the Speaker seat vacant.
It can be done, it must be done. We have waited long enough.
http://www.petitiononline.com/everyman/petition.html
December 20th, 2007 at 4:16 pmSpreading peace and democracy with ‘Shock and Aw’.
December 20th, 2007 at 5:44 pmNOW we know where the term “turd blossom” came from…
December 20th, 2007 at 5:49 pm“turd blossom†is a term used to describe the clusters of paper towels that appear at the base of trees at a construction site with no port-a-jon.
December 20th, 2007 at 6:01 pmActually those who think the Afghanistan mission was “justified” the way it happened are warmongers, liberal or otherwise.
A special-ops precision, no civilian casualties strike was the sane thing to do in Afghanistan and one would think in the realm of capabilites of the most expensive army on the planet. They should have gathererd proper intelligence as to Osama’s location (which could take a while) then come in and get him and all his commanders at some idiotic meeting (of which he was fond at the time).
But noooo! The warmongers had to “show” the world how murderous the self-importantly outraged US, supprted by its warmongering NATO pals, can get (not to mention transferring a few billion dollars to defense contractor cronies here and there). All those expensive militaries gotta be used, you know! So they chomped at the bit to overrun the whole Afghanistan and to “show them”. And then to “remodel” the Afghanistan into some sick neo-con delusion.
And the results were quite predictsble: screwed up Afghanistan, with a NATO-propped up “president” barely holding power in Kabul, the enitre country-side overrun with ever multiplying Taliban and bonus: Osama got away.
Buy you Really Really Showed Them!
Not.
The epitaph of the “War on Terra” will read: Thinking with one’s gonads has its unfortunate consequences.
December 20th, 2007 at 6:17 pmTo be fair, the Soviets did play a pretty significant role, too.
Comment by toasterhead — December 20, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
Many people think that first the Soviets invaded Afghanistan and then we began supporting the radical Islamists to fight them. But this is backwards. First the country had a good progressive government and then Reagan and the CIA, Pakistan and the ISI, and Saudi Arabia began supporting the radical Islamists in order to cause the Soviet Union to invade and get bogged down in a protracted war (like US in Iraq today).
December 20th, 2007 at 8:03 pmWe killed half a million Filipinos, three million in IndoChina, nearly a million in South America, and over one million in Iraq…….. We spend about $900 billion every year on war. We want to control every inch of the planet, plus space.
Comment by Keith
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What utter rubbish.
Comment by Charles James Napier — December 20, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
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All perfectly true and a matter of historical record. Which part do you think is not true? When hundreds of thousands or millions of people get killed there is always good evidence that cannot be denied (by reasonable people anyway–some people today still deny The Holocaust when there were excellent records kept, aided by IBM, with the six million names).
There is much money that goes to war that is not in the Pentagon budget. Nuclear weapons come under Energy. Veterans Affairs is not included in the Pentagon budget. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are not in the Pentagon budget. Estimates of total cost of Iraq range from $2.3 to $3 Trillion. Military satellites come under NASA. Retirement and disability pay are not in the Pentagon budget. Then there is interest on the debt because we do not have the money.
Iraq spent $1 billion per year on their military, did not have a navy or air force, and did not have nuclear, biological, nor chemical weapons! We disarmed them and bombed them for 12 years before the illegal invasion.
December 20th, 2007 at 8:15 pmBush is a wonderful person. He has a good heart. Sure, he likes to drink a little too much. Sure, he takes drugs to stabilize his warped mind. Sure, he’s so secretive he shaves in the dark. Sure, he invades countries without the need of good intelligence. Sure, many people have died unnecessarily in horrendous ways because he doesn’t know how to use his own private military in constructive ways. But look at his good points. He talks to God on a daily basis. God talks to him on a daily basis. He once saved a frogs life by not lighting the fuse of the fire-cracker he put in the frog’s mouth. A man with this type of kindness should be treated with all the kindness the men in white coats can muster as they administer mind soothing drugs into his frail body. I could go on and on about my dear president, but I must take my meds now. Good night and please don’t let the vicious dogs into my cell again…
December 20th, 2007 at 8:20 pmLike Hell.
∞
December 21st, 2007 at 2:25 amit doesn’t matter who does or who does not go around spreading good will. What makes me sick is the retarded prez telling the world his stupid way of thinking. What an embarrassment…..
December 21st, 2007 at 3:31 pmBush is a (bad) actor. That really about sums up his qualifications for office. Sadly, in America today that’s enough to get elected. He doesn’t get any sort of reality check from the cronies around him, so he likely still thinks that we’ll buy whateverthefrick spills from his mouth. He preps for each presspaganda opportunity by memorizing little schtik phrases like this one, and just waits for a semi-relevant chance to deliver one of them.
The most revealing moments are when he’s tossed a question that he hasn’t rehearsed for. He’s likely to stand like a deer in the headlights, trying to figure out which script he’s on, and then when he can’t peg it, he tries to make a joke. The joke almost always flops, but still the audience almost always laughs. When was the last time you didn’t laugh at one of your boss’s jokes?
Sad thing is, that formula works. He’s asked a question, jokes while it’s being delivered, to distract from the inherent seriousness of the situation and to prime the audience to expect laugh lines. Then he delivers a stunningly inappropriate response that thinking people automatically try to parse for some sort of buried meaning, even though there isn’t any. While they’re thinking (he doesn’t have that handicapp) he follows it up with a topic-ender — another laugh line, or a psuedo-serious threat to someone, maybe even the questioner. While the stenographers are trying to parse his non-response, he calls on another in the endless sea of raised hands.
The public ends up with a post-partum depression after every press show, and wonders why the baby of responsible, accountable governance is inevitably deformed.
Gives new meaning to “ad nauseum.”
December 22nd, 2007 at 5:39 pm“[in relation to the invasion of Afganistan, FactsOnly said we could have pursued a lower-impact strategy of gathering intelligence before a surgical swift strike to take out BinLaden…] But noooo! The warmongers had to “show†the world how murderous the self-importantly outraged US, supported by its warmongering NATO pals, can get (not to mention transferring a few billion dollars to defense contractor cronies here and there).”
The parenthetical part of your statement is the crux of our invasion of both Afganistan and Iraq. Nato wasn’t and isn’t as rabid about this intervention as we are by any means, and had to be badgered and blackmailed (threatened with marginalization — hence starvation of resources in a post-Soviet world) to get involved in the venture with us.
Look at Bush’s trend before 9/11 to see his priorities. He tried to sell Social Security to Wall Street. He appointed privatization foxes to watch the nation’s henhouses.
When 9/11 happened, it was too great an opportunity for a Milton Friedmanite Economic Jihadist to pass up. Destabilization is their bread and butter, but you have to invade and occupy to get the payoff. Afganistan didn’t quite work out because, after all, the only raw material of any value there is opium, and I guess we’re not quite ready to start openly venture-capitalizing the hard drug trade.
The only other commodity of worth in Afganistan is right-of-way through it for an oil pipeline, which Karzai signed off on immediately. He should have held out for a better deal, because the Economic Neo-liberalizing of Afganistan is now over, unless someone figures out how to make mega-profits from sand.
Iraq was just the next step in owning the region.
December 22nd, 2007 at 5:59 pm